First Firearm Thread. [Archive] - Page 7 - Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum

Mark C

05-29-2010, 09:06 AM

Time to bump this thread with some new pics :)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs520.ash1/30620_883925339433_6205133_47639979_1581613_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs520.ash1/30620_883925359393_6205133_47639982_4853384_n.jpg

Stag 6H upper, Spike's Lower, DPMS LPK w/ tuned 3lb trigger, Burris PEPR and Bushnell 4-12x40 sitting on top. My first AR, went together pretty easy, can't wait to load 'er up and hit the range.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs560.snc3/30620_883925394323_6205133_47639986_7975262_n.jpg
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Turkish M38 Mauser. I was told it 'shot well', but the darn thing was so loaded up with cosmoline I'm surprised/skeptical it shot at all. There was so much gunk in the bolt I doubt the firing pin would have moved. Cleaned up real nice though.

Anybody ever used a detachable mag on a Mauser? The follower spring and floorplate were rusted pretty bad and probably need to be replaced. If I've got to buy new parts, I'm leaning in that direction just for something different.

dunng

05-29-2010, 09:19 AM

I got rid of my SW9VE and picked up a Glock 23... here in MA you can only get a pre 98 Glock that was in the state. :tg

http://twitpic.com/1nvy2d/full

TheManWithNoName

06-06-2010, 03:33 PM

I got rid of my SW9VE and picked up a Glock 23... here in MA you can only get a pre 98 Glock that was in the state. :tg

http://twitpic.com/1nvy2d/full

Too bad about your state's poor laws, but nice upgrade bud! It's my understanding from various forums that the Sigma series are the weak point of S&W's lineup, kept around for price point. The "VE" or value-enhanced designation only came around after they were sued by Glock for design ripoff... anyway their M&P series gets great reviews but your Glock is a major step up IMHO. Love my G36...

Looks like a second-gen? Very nice.

gettysburgfreak

06-14-2010, 04:27 PM

Finally got myself an AR! So freakin excited right now. I really wanted a DPMS or Rock River but when I went into a sporting goods store today I saw this Armalite Arms and really liked the camo look so I decided to finally buy one.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6343/003f.th.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/003f.jpg/)
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6204/002gzd.th.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/002gzd.jpg/)
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1036/001vx.th.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/001vx.jpg/)

0002S

06-16-2010, 05:04 AM

New AR build started....finishing it up soon.

gettysburgfreak

06-17-2010, 11:24 PM

does anyone have any good sources for cheap .223 ammo?

awsmith4

06-17-2010, 11:30 PM

does anyone have any good sources for cheap .223 ammo?

This place is a favorite for some of my buddies, not sure if they have what your looking for but worth a try

http://www.armthepopulace.com/catalog/

elderboy02

06-18-2010, 05:02 AM

does anyone have any good sources for cheap .223 ammo?

Congrats on the new purchase.

Here is where I buy my ammo: http://www.aimsurplus.com

gettysburgfreak

06-19-2010, 08:50 AM

Congrats on the new purchase.

Here is where I buy my ammo: http://www.aimsurplus.com

Thanks for the tip. Have you had good luck with the Wolf or PMC? I don't want to put low quality through my gun, but would love to be able to get 500 rounds for 100 bucks.

elderboy02

06-19-2010, 12:44 PM

Thanks for the tip. Have you had good luck with the Wolf or PMC? I don't want to put low quality through my gun, but would love to be able to get 500 rounds for 100 bucks.

I haven't had problems with either brand.

HK3-

06-20-2010, 04:01 PM

Fun day at the range. :)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/th_P6200014.jpg (http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/?action=view&current=P6200014.mp4)

Ratters

06-20-2010, 08:18 PM

Thanks for the tip. Have you had good luck with the Wolf or PMC? I don't want to put low quality through my gun, but would love to be able to get 500 rounds for 100 bucks.

ARs can be real finicky, some jam on the stuff other's handle it just fine. Buy a brick and try it out. You can always sell the rest if it doesn't work for you. Mine doesn't like the stuff but my buddy will bumpfire it all day long through his.

I'm thinking we are coming near the end of the ammo bubble, I'm thinking cases won't drop down to pre-rise prices but should settle in the $250 a case neighborhood. Sure, I'm talking out my ass but I'm still pretty sure I'm right. :D

BTW, GBF, that is a sweet looking Armalite you got yourself. :tu

gettysburgfreak

06-20-2010, 10:35 PM

ARs can be real finicky, some jam on the stuff other's handle it just fine. Buy a brick and try it out. You can always sell the rest if it doesn't work for you. Mine doesn't like the stuff but my buddy will bumpfire it all day long through his.

I'm thinking we are coming near the end of the ammo bubble, I'm thinking cases won't drop down to pre-rise prices but should settle in the $250 a case neighborhood. Sure, I'm talking out my ass but I'm still pretty sure I'm right. :D

BTW, GBF, that is a sweet looking Armalite you got yourself. :tu

Thanks Ratters. What attracted me to the gun was the camo, never really saw a stock one like it. When I bought it I bought 200 rounds of American Eagle ammo and put 60 rounds through it with no problem when I went to the range. today I picked up 100 rounds of Federal at Wal Mart and will be heading back out to the range tomorrow to put some more rounds through it. I am thinking I will order some PMC online once I run down my small supply and see how that goes.

pearson

06-26-2010, 12:45 AM

I need to get some pics of my new Pink sig mosquito up here

Ender

07-04-2010, 10:46 AM

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad115/squigg1/IMG_0878.jpg
Totally meant to add this photo a while ago of Christos and I with our new DW Valor's.

loki

07-04-2010, 11:07 AM

recently i had matt build me a iwb/owb convertible holster for my 4" xd. Today i thought it would be a good day to try out the iwb part of it...that was until my wife reminded me that we had stuff to do which of course was just after i took the first mounting screw out of the owb attachments. I tried to put it back in with no luck but I didn't have time to really mess with it as my wife was walking out the door with my car keys. I sent matt a quick and confusing email with my problem and walked out the door. I get an email back from matt on my blackberry and we exchange 4 or so emails and then he asks me to call him.

I call matt and we discuss the problems i'm having and after a short conversation we figure out it's a problem with the mounting screw and that the IWB screws will fix the problem. I try that while on the phone with him and we got the holster fixed and i'm CCing and happy again. The problem ended up being a screw that wouldn't catch properly and while I insisted that it is not necessary for matt to do so, he insisted even more that he send me a replacement.

Matt and I have been emailing each other back and for a while now and I've always found matt to be knowledgeable and helpful as well as quick to respond to questions or concerns. I have absolutely no reservations about recommending http://www.invictuskydex.com/ to anyone who is looking for a holster

gettysburgfreak

07-05-2010, 04:38 PM

bought myself a sig sauer red dot sight for my AR-15 this weekend. When I installed in on the rail to my gun it seems like its a little low for my eye, it doesnt feel comfortable looking through it. Does anyone know how I might be able to make it sit higher up on the rail? Do they make something to heighten sights? Any help would be appreciated.

Trumpet

07-05-2010, 05:23 PM

gettysburgfreak

07-05-2010, 05:25 PM

I believe LaRue and Daniel Defense make riser mounts. However, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the Sig dot sight is generally considered to be, well...poo. I'm not sure if the Larue or DD riser mounts would work anyway as they're meant for the Aimpoint mini. If you don't want to spend Aimpoint/Trijicon type coin, take a look at the offerings from Primary Arms. Their products have received good reviews on ARFCOM.

Thanks for the tip. My friend and I were at a gun show in San Antonio and he talked me into the sight. It wasnt until after that I read some reviews online and found out that it wasn't the greatest.

lostark374

07-07-2010, 04:55 AM

http://www.onlylongrange.com/badnews.asp

who else wants one!

Trumpet

07-07-2010, 05:12 AM

http://www.onlylongrange.com/badnews.asp

who else wants one!

As long as you're buing the ammo..

lostark374

07-07-2010, 05:21 AM

you buy me the rifle ill buy you the ammo.

pearson

07-12-2010, 10:15 AM

Here are some pictures from the most recent range trip. It was the first time this year going to the jim jones shooting range in Payson and that have changed the lock combo. But we got them on the phone and made it down to the range. Brittany had to shoot her new pink sig mosquito and Grandpa wanted to shoot the black guns.

Me trying to get in to the range.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/750/dsc1772t.jpg

Brittany ever so excited to be there.
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/4817/dsc1777.jpg

Nice gun, it was only on order for 3 months.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3672/dsc1792.jpg

"its to heavy"
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3154/dsc1805u.jpg

pearson

07-12-2010, 10:15 AM

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8692/dsc1783y.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2912/dsc1788u.jpg
Grandpa getting some action. We were only able to use the parley and arrgh settings today, we will plunder some other day.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7866/dsc1815c.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7623/dsc1808.jpg

And on the way back home to phoenix we saw this and thought it was funny to see a 60k SUV being held together with duct tape.
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4018/dsc1822i.jpg

elderboy02

07-12-2010, 10:18 AM

Nice pics! What optics are on those AR's?

pearson

07-12-2010, 10:26 AM

Aimpoint on the little one M2 I think, and a nightforce 2.5-10X32 on the big one.

HK3-

07-12-2010, 10:30 AM

Fun day at the range. :)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/th_P6200014.jpg (http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/?action=view&current=P6200014.mp4)

Had someone pm me because they thought this was a picture and didn't realize it was a video. :) Guess I should have made it just a link to make it easier.

Diesel Kinevel

07-12-2010, 10:43 AM

Aimpoint on the little one M2 I think, and a nightforce 2.5-10X32 on the big one.

How do you like that NF on your AR? I have been looking at getting one for my 16" AR. I have also been looking into the 3.5-15 for my .223 bolt gun. I just need to make more money:D

-Z

pearson

07-12-2010, 06:30 PM

Its awesome, make sure you get one thats decked out though buy once cry once. Make sure you put it in a quality mount though. I was looking at a OBR from larue and the only optic that I could think of to put on there would be another Nightforce.

ChicagoWhiteSox

07-12-2010, 06:37 PM

Thanks for the pics John:tu

ChicagoWhiteSox

07-12-2010, 06:38 PM

What are you shooting in the second to last picture?

Pilon

07-12-2010, 09:43 PM

Anyone know if the Colt Defender comes in a 40

bonjing

07-12-2010, 09:54 PM

My Benelli M10"what was I thinking"14, and my other hobby Transformers :D.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/IMG_0480-1-1.jpg

bonjing

07-12-2010, 10:03 PM

Anyone know if the Colt Defender comes in a 40

Travis, here's what I found on 1911 forum:

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=269566

pearson

07-13-2010, 03:21 AM

What are you shooting in the second to last picture?

Paper :tu

the gun is a mix i made up.

vltor upper
larue 12in rail
young bolt carrier
noveske 18in barrel
phantom flash hider today.
spikes lower
jared trigger
magpul Prs
Mbuis sights.

Anything else?

bonjing

07-22-2010, 12:25 AM

And the 10 days begin ! ! ! :banger :sad

elderboy02

07-22-2010, 05:09 AM

And the 10 days begin ! ! ! :banger :sad

10 days for what?

bigdix

07-22-2010, 05:55 AM

Anyone know if the Colt Defender comes in a 40

Brother, I owned a Defender .45 and it was a fantastic little handgun. I know the .40 is nice.....but you might wanna take the .45. Great pistol, and just as accurate as the 1911-A frame. Not sayin', just sayin'. I'm in the military and the Beretta 9mils we use suck compared to the old issue 1911 Colt .45. The Hogue grips are nice too.

looking for know

07-22-2010, 08:07 AM

More ****.

A model 36 from 1967.
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9715/m36s.jpg

JE3146

07-22-2010, 09:17 AM

Forget the wheel gun. Pez!

:D

Nice pic ;)

JE3146

07-22-2010, 09:18 AM

10 days for what?

Probably oppressive background checking...

elderboy02

07-22-2010, 09:31 AM

I am so glad I don't live behind enemy lines. Here it takes 3 minutes to do the paperwork and 2 minutes for the background check. 5 minutes and you get a gun :tu

HK3-

07-22-2010, 09:46 AM

I am so glad I don't live behind enemy lines. Here it takes 3 minutes to do the paperwork and 2 minutes for the background check. 5 minutes and you get a gun :tu

:tpd: Money, paper, and cya later.

J0eybb

07-22-2010, 10:01 AM

I forgot my gun at home today.... Good thing there are guns here.

bonjing

07-22-2010, 02:41 PM

:D dang didn't realize it was that dirty :D

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/IMG_0487-1.jpg

bonjing

07-22-2010, 02:48 PM

10 days for what?

Probably oppressive background checking...

I am so glad I don't live behind enemy lines. Here it takes 3 minutes to do the paperwork and 2 minutes for the background check. 5 minutes and you get a gun :tu

all true. :sad

Poronico

07-23-2010, 12:54 AM

More ****.

A model 36 from 1967.
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9715/m36s.jpg

I don't know whats sexier... the pistol of that you used PEZ to prop it up lol.

How have you been doing brother? When is the next HERF at your casa? Me and my girl would love another excuse to his up Oregon and swing by for a smoke or 3 :)

looking for know

07-23-2010, 09:00 AM

How have you been doing brother? When is the next HERF at your casa? Me and my girl would love another excuse to his up Oregon and swing by for a smoke or 3 :)

Hey Jesse! That seems like forever ago to me. It will be a while before I have people over, we're in the middle of remodeling our kitchen, but there is a shoot-n-smoke in the works with some of the ARFCOM'ers from your part of the state. Looks like the 7th or 8th of Aug.

The real question: Does your girl shoot? ;)

Cigarcop

07-23-2010, 10:56 AM

Ahhhhh, a shoot n smoke....why do I live so far away!!!!

I could bring toys for sure!!

LasciviousXXX

07-24-2010, 04:58 AM

Diesel Kinevel

07-24-2010, 08:00 AM

Hey everyone, anyone have any experience with the Ruger SR9c? Thinking about picking it up as another concealed carry for when I'm on the motorcycle. I'm fairly unhappy with what I'm using now.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Thx

Well, what are you using now? Most weapons can be concealed (yes even the full sized variety). Usually all it takes is a good holster. Crossbreed makes one helluva holster for most weapons carried. Also what caliber are you looking for? I would use no less than 9mm.

-Z

JE3146

07-24-2010, 12:42 PM

elderboy02

07-24-2010, 03:44 PM

looking for know

07-24-2010, 04:14 PM

Glock 23 :tu

Glock 21. :banger
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7602/golck21cl3.jpg

Seriously though, Kahr PM9
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3172/kahrqo6.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6646/img1657ui2.jpg

T.G

07-24-2010, 05:01 PM

Glock 23 :tu

Or a 27. :tu

JE3146

07-26-2010, 01:42 AM

Glock 23 :tu

Only if you like to blow up your hands :D

Unsupported chamber + .40 = F that.

Glock 19 is where it's at... :D

Poronico

07-26-2010, 04:18 AM

Hey Jesse! That seems like forever ago to me. It will be a while before I have people over, we're in the middle of remodeling our kitchen, but there is a shoot-n-smoke in the works with some of the ARFCOM'ers from your part of the state. Looks like the 7th or 8th of Aug.

The real question: Does your girl shoot? ;)

The girl smokes and has been itching to go shooting but due to lack of funding I haven't been able to afford .40 ammo. I was thinking of picking up a few cases of 22LR rounds and taking out my Sig Mosquito to teach her the basics of it all but then I will have to find time when I am not working 8 days a week.

elderboy02

07-26-2010, 05:06 AM

Only if you like to blow up your hands :D

Unsupported chamber + .40 = F that.

Glock 19 is where it's at... :D

Come on Jordan, you know that only happens when you use reloads. Buy a Glock 23 and then buy the aftermarket barrel and magazines in 9mm and then you have 2 guns in one :tu

JE3146

07-26-2010, 09:27 AM

Come on Jordan, you know that only happens when you use reloads. Buy a Glock 23 and then buy the aftermarket barrel and magazines in 9mm and then you have 2 guns in one :tu

(or cheap ammo*) :D

If you're gonna go the unsupported route, then go Glock 29. Skip all the pansy stuff and go for gold. 10 rounds of 10mm = pure awesome.

elderboy02

07-26-2010, 09:35 AM

(or cheap ammo*) :D

If you're gonna go the unsupported route, then go Glock 29. Skip all the pansy stuff and go for gold. 10 rounds of 10mm = pure awesome.

I have a Glock 20 :tu

JE3146

07-26-2010, 09:44 AM

I have a Glock 20 :tu

Or fine.. if you have mutant hands, you can do that too :r

elderboy02

07-26-2010, 09:45 AM

Or fine.. if you have mutant hands, you can do that too :r

Yeah, I have huge hands :r

JE3146

07-26-2010, 11:33 AM

Let's talk handguns suitable for backpacking. I was thinking a s&w j frame .357 but the ultra snub nose concerns me. I'd like at least 2.5".

reccomendations?

T.G

07-26-2010, 12:54 PM

Let's talk handguns suitable for backpacking. I was thinking a s&w j frame .357 but the ultra snub nose concerns me. I'd like at least 2.5".

reccomendations?

Taurus Judge.

elderboy02

07-26-2010, 01:07 PM

Taurus Judge.

No way! Read this:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

T.G

07-26-2010, 01:22 PM

No way! Read this:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

So what's your point?

Load first two chambers with shot shells for snakes, next three with .45LC for everything else.

I guess my mistake in mentioning the Judge was thinking that people would have the common sense to realize that the weapon can use two different cartridges (at the same time even!) and that the .410 shot is less than ideal for shooting a large mass.

When loaded intelligently and logically, it's great weapon.

HK3-

07-26-2010, 01:41 PM

Taurus Judge.

+1 I'm down with the Judge. :tu

timj219

07-26-2010, 01:45 PM

Let's talk handguns suitable for backpacking. I was thinking a s&w j frame .357 but the ultra snub nose concerns me. I'd like at least 2.5".

reccomendations?Definitely a revolver because it will withstand the possible exposure to wet and dirt better than an auto. Super light weight and snub nose isn't really necessary because you don't need deep concealement. In fact depending on the places you go you may be able to wear it across the chest like some hunters do with their backup pistol. If you want this for defense against animals as well as people you should carry a revolver capable of at least .38/.357. You can go bigger but if you are not a gun enthusiast a higher caliber may not work as well for you all things considered.
If it was me I think I would look at a S&W 686 or 686+ in 4" or 6" configuration. Long barrel length is a good thing because it delivers the most possible power as well as longer sight radius for better accuracy in aiming situations. The .38/357 cal with the medium steel frame means a good power/kick ratio.The Ruger GP100 is a good choice too. That puts you over 2 lbs but with a good holster and belt that's not so bad. Get a holster made for the woods - maybe with a flap. It will keep the grit out.

HK3-

07-26-2010, 01:49 PM

No way! Read this:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

Very interesting.

JE3146

07-26-2010, 05:04 PM

Few criteria. No taurus. No ruger. Must be less than 20 ounces. 357 minimum. Not ultra snubnose. Black or blue preferred. It will be mostly concealed.

T.G

07-26-2010, 05:32 PM

Must be less than 20 ounces. 357 minimum. Not ultra snubnose.

Might be tough to get all of those in one.

If you're willing to give a few ounces on the weight though...

BTW, the S&W J-frames you mentioned earlier are very good weapons.

LasciviousXXX

07-26-2010, 05:35 PM

Well, what are you using now? Most weapons can be concealed (yes even the full sized variety). Usually all it takes is a good holster. Crossbreed makes one helluva holster for most weapons carried. Also what caliber are you looking for? I would use no less than 9mm.

-Z

I've carried full-size concealed before, its not that I dislike it, I'm just going for something smaller on while on the motorcycle. I have plenty of holsters but I actually just bought a Lil Joes Motorcycle Vest with the built in gun pocket inside the vest. It holds my full size weapons fine but again I'm looking for something a bit smaller.

I've carried a S&W Model 60-15 .357 Mag, I've carried the Glock 26 and a Ruger P90. Not horribly excited w/ the S&W, I used Glock for a decent amount of time at work so I try to stay away from them when I'm able and the full size Ruger was just too big.

Avoid anything with the name Ruger on it... period.

Not based on quality, but principle.

What's the thoughts behind that Jordan?

JE3146

07-26-2010, 06:00 PM

Ruger is the anti gun , gun company.

JE3146

07-26-2010, 07:56 PM

Might be tough to get all of those in one.

If you're willing to give a few ounces on the weight though...

BTW, the S&W J-frames you mentioned earlier are very good weapons.

My only logic is if we're talking 26 to 30 ounces, I'd just rather go with a G29 which preserves my muscle memory comparable to a G19. Which a Glock isn't going have an issue with dirt, dust, grime or water. That and 10mm is no slouch.

Kind of interesting though that the J frames fill a niche market with no other competition.

The Taurus Judge sounds interesting, but I refuse to support that company with my dollars.

T.G

07-26-2010, 08:32 PM

My only logic is if we're talking 26 to 30 ounces, I'd just rather go with a G29 which preserves my muscle memory comparable to a G19. Which a Glock isn't going have an issue with dirt, dust, grime or water. That and 10mm is no slouch.

Kind of interesting though that the J frames fill a niche market with no other competition.

The Taurus Judge sounds interesting, but I refuse to support that company with my dollars.

No doubt or debate, the Glock is a great weapon, I don't need to be convinced of that. For some carry situations, I think a revolver, even though you give up a few rounds and maybe some weight, might be a better choice. Not even the Glock is infallible. Yes, a revolver a very old concept in the design. But, it frickin' works. It's simple, reliable and rugged. Fast, no. Sometimes though, simple and reliable trump magazine capacities and speed fire.

Off the top of my head, I think a S&W 640 Centennial .357 magnum weighs 32oz.

I could get under the 30oz limit by going to a 642 airweight, but, IIRC, .38+P is as much as it will handle per the manufacturer.

While one of them exceeds your weight restrictions, the other falls slightly short of your power demands, I would not have a problem with either of those for myself. I would not have a problem with their senior counterpart bodyguard models either, but I can't personally see where I would need single-action capability for this situation.

There are a few other .45/.410 revolvers on the market, The Judge just happens to be the most readily available. I haven't spent much time looking into them since they're illegal in the state I live in, maybe a local gunstore can help you with some of the other manufacturers.

JE3146

07-26-2010, 09:06 PM

No doubt or debate, the Glock is a great weapon, I don't need to be convinced of that. For some carry situations, I think a revolver, even though you give up a few rounds and maybe some weight, might be a better choice. Not even the Glock is infallible. Yes, a revolver a very old concept in the design. But, it frickin' works. It's simple, reliable and rugged. Fast, no. Sometimes though, simple and reliable trump magazine capacities and speed fire.

Off the top of my head, I think a S&W 640 Centennial .357 magnum weighs 32oz.

I could get under the 30oz limit by going to a 642 airweight, but, IIRC, .38+P is as much as it will handle per the manufacturer.

While one of them exceeds your weight restrictions, the other falls slightly short of your power demands, I would not have a problem with either of those for myself. I would not have a problem with their senior counterpart bodyguard models either, but I can't personally see where I would need single-action capability for this situation.

There are a few other .45/.410 revolvers on the market, The Judge just happens to be the most readily available. I haven't spent much time looking into them since they're illegal in the state I live in, maybe a local gunstore can help you with some of the other manufacturers.

I won't argue the revolver is the premier choice for this application (which is why I'm hunting for one), but all I was getting at is if weight was a wash between an auto and a revolver, I'll go with where my training lies.

I found on the S&W site, the M&P 360 model revolver.

3" barrel, .357, black and ~15 oz.

Only issue is it has a hammer, which wasn't a deal breaker, but weird that they don't offer a 3" hammerless model in black.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/zoom_lg/163077_01_lg.jpg

floydpink

07-26-2010, 09:16 PM

My everyday carry is the S&W Airweight 642 revolver with Crimson trace.

It fits perfectly in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster in the cargo shorts I normally wear and you don't even notice it's there.

I keep Speer Gold dots short barrel rounds in it and feel very confident in its stopping power although I pray I never truly find out.

Sure a Glock carries more rounds but for my skinny frame it's too big to propery conceal and I live by the theory if I need more than 5 shots, I'm probably not making it home for dinner.

Had a Taurus 357 and found it painful to pracice with and tried a Kel Tec P11, which in my opinion is the biggest piece of junk gun in the world.

The fact that Taurus is made in Brazil should have made me run but my first divorce after 2 years to a Brazilian woman didn't stop me from marrying another one 7 years later. I'm a slow learner.

T.G

07-26-2010, 09:20 PM

I won't argue the revolver is the premier choice for this application (which is why I'm hunting for one), but all I was getting at is if weight was a wash between an auto and a revolver, I'll go with where my training lies.

I found on the S&W site, the M&P 360 model revolver.

3" barrel, .357, black and ~15 oz.

Only issue is it has a hammer, which wasn't a deal breaker, but weird that they don't offer a 3" hammerless model in black.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/zoom_lg/163077_01_lg.jpg

It would appear that we are not that far apart in our thinking, abeit a few differences. Now, after looking at the S&W page, it seems my memory of the weights of these weapons is not not accurate. Or I'm thinking of loaded weights, I don't know, but whatever it is, what I had in my head for weights was greater than what they are when unloaded.

Is sending the weapon out to a gunsmith to have the hammer bobbed an option for you?

JE3146

07-26-2010, 09:22 PM

My everyday carry is the S&W Airweight 642 revolver with Crimson trace.

It fits perfectly in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster in the cargo shorts I normally wear and you don't even notice it's there.

Sure a Glock carries more rounds but for my skinny frame it's too big to propery conceal and I live by the theory if I need more than 5 shots, I'm probably not making it home for dinner.

Different application. Backpacking carry gun. .357 minimum.

My carry gun is a G19.

We're talking lightweight because ounces matter on the trail. Chest holster, slightly exposed and revolver because mags weigh a lot.

JE3146

07-26-2010, 09:24 PM

It would appear that we are not that far apart in our thinking, abeit a few differences. Now, after looking at the S&W page, it seems my memory of the weights of these weapons is not not accurate. Or I'm thinking of loaded weights, I don't know, but whatever it is, what I had in my head for weights was greater than what they are when unloaded.

Is sending the weapon out to a gunsmith to have the hammer bobbed an option for you?

I have a guy local who could do it.

Though if he can't do it, I'm wondering if just buying an aftermarket bobbed hammer would be more ideal ($$$).

EDIT:: just found a recommended website.

http://www.pinnacle-guns.com/revolver.asp

anyone heard of em?

floydpink

07-26-2010, 09:27 PM

Different application. Backpacking carry gun. .357 minimum.

My carry gun is a G19.

We're talking lightweight because ounces matter on the trail. Chest holster, slightly exposed and revolver because mags weigh a lot.

Oh you're talking about backpacking? I'd probably use one of these if I was into backpacking.

http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp268/Ag3ntzer0/SuperRedhawkAlaskan.jpg

T.G

07-26-2010, 09:36 PM

I have a guy local who could do it.

Though if he can't do it, I'm wondering if just buying an aftermarket bobbed hammer would be more ideal ($$$).

To my knowledge, I've never fired a S&W with an aftermarket hammer, so I simply don't know.

Cigarcop

08-01-2010, 05:59 PM

Must not let the Firearm thread die!!

Suppressed 6.5x47L

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0d620b3127ccefa962c05d43f00000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/

JE3146

08-01-2010, 07:16 PM

Are you adopting by chance?

:r

Cigarcop

08-01-2010, 07:18 PM

Are you adopting by chance?

:r

Jordan,
Your always welcome to come over and play, my safes are open to you :)

JaKaacH

08-01-2010, 08:19 PM

I have a guy local who could do it.

Though if he can't do it, I'm wondering if just buying an aftermarket bobbed hammer would be more ideal ($$$).

EDIT:: just found a recommended website.

http://www.pinnacle-guns.com/revolver.asp

anyone heard of em?

To my knowledge, I've never fired a S&W with an aftermarket hammer, so I simply don't know.

I hope this doesn't sound like I'm being a wise azz. But bobbing a revolver hammer is a pretty simple job. A nice file and some emery cloth and the required elbow grease.
One thing you can do is order a spare stock hammer to bob, install and use it. If its not what you want put the original back in.

JE3146

08-01-2010, 09:11 PM

I hope this doesn't sound like I'm being a wise azz. But bobbing a revolver hammer is a pretty simple job. A nice file and some emery cloth and the required elbow grease.
One thing you can do is order a spare stock hammer to bob, install and use it. If its not what you want put the original back in.

If it was an AR-15 hammer, I'd do it in a heartbeat, but with complete inexperience in this sort(revolvers) of thing and the necessity for it to work 100% of the time if needed. It's worth the 30$ and change for someone to do it for me.

0002S

08-02-2010, 07:04 PM

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0601.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0604.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0606.jpg

Cigarcop

08-02-2010, 07:21 PM

Now were talking Shawn, love me some Black guns :D

Cigarcop

08-02-2010, 07:52 PM

Ed Brown Cobra Carry

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0d623b3127ccefa90562e3c5c00000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/

0002S

08-03-2010, 04:28 AM

Now were talking Shawn, love me some Black guns :D

I got a new Spike lower that I haven't decided what the build is going to be.

Hmmmm......:D

Cigarcop

08-03-2010, 05:01 AM

I got a new Spike lower that I haven't decided what the build is going to be.

Hmmmm......:D

6.5 Grendel ????? smokin round, but components are expensive

0002S

08-03-2010, 06:19 AM

6.5 Grendel ????? smokin round, but components are expensive

I'd only do this if I reload it. Semi-Auto tear brass up though.

Cigarcop

08-03-2010, 06:31 AM

I'd only do this if I reload it. Semi-Auto tear brass up though.

Yeah but even reloading it get expensive for this round and Alexander Arms hasn't helped the matter. Lapua Brass is all thats avail although its coming down in price, still near 85-90 bucks per 100. If you want a Competition Die set w/ bushings your also looking above 200 bucks...but the round has its merits.

Can't wait to see what you build brother

Diesel Kinevel

08-03-2010, 08:20 AM

My AR, new to me P245 and the target from shooting my P245:D

-Z

bonjing

08-03-2010, 06:33 PM

On the left my fixed 10rd mag LMT 308MWS. I already started parting it out and hope to get a UBR, Troy sights and Smith Vortex put it on it.

On the right is my fixed 10 rd mag 9mm Ar

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/IMG_0496.jpg

Cigarcop

08-03-2010, 07:07 PM

I knew you were holdin out on us Greg!!! Nice bud

ValorBali41

08-03-2010, 07:18 PM

Very cool. 9mm conversions are always a sweet deal b/c it costs less to shoot so you can put more rounds through it!! Always an awesome thing :banger

0002S

08-03-2010, 09:07 PM

dear lord, just let me get to the high ground.....

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/755e15d9.jpg

Cigarcop

08-04-2010, 02:44 PM

Full Larue Build, 16" Stealth Upper, Chip McCormick trigger, Magpul UBR, Mrk4

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0d625b3127ccefa9c352dae7d00000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/

Diesel Kinevel

08-04-2010, 02:51 PM

LaRue=Perfection. Sweet rifle!!!:banger

-Z

looking for know

08-04-2010, 06:29 PM

Cigarcop

08-04-2010, 06:32 PM

yep, just some restrictions

bonjing

08-04-2010, 06:59 PM

yep, just some restrictions

:tpd: all are fixed mag/top loaders or you can use a "bullet-button" type release where you have to use a tool to remove the magazine, but nothing over 10rds.

Cali was a big part of the lower shortage not to long ago

Cigarcop

08-04-2010, 07:12 PM

and fixed flash hiders/compensator, that is if your tring to make a short barrel legal length

0002S

08-04-2010, 07:18 PM

A little Wilhelmine Era art in 7x57. Nothing like an action built in late 1896 and the Feds don't care about it.

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0630.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0626.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0631.jpg

Cigarcop

08-04-2010, 07:25 PM

Nice Shawn, the stock has some beautiful wood too

0002S

08-04-2010, 07:41 PM

Nice Shawn, the stock has some beautiful wood too

Thanks

When get the chance I'll post some pics of a .264 / .338 win mag switch barrel on a curly maple

0002S

08-05-2010, 09:38 PM

WWI 1911 (around 1917) original grips are stored. I still shoot this from time to time.

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0636.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0637.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0639.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0638.jpg

0002S

08-05-2010, 09:39 PM

1942 P38 - this is one damn fine shooting pistol

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0646.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0647.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0650.jpg

JE3146

08-05-2010, 10:36 PM

That 1911 is one of the most beautiful firearms I have seen in a very long time. I am green with envy.

Bill86

08-06-2010, 03:53 AM

I currently own a Mossberg Cruiser all black 8 shot, and a S&W M&P AR-15. I gotta mod out the AR-15 and I'm looking at getting a H&K P30 for a carry permit.

0002S

08-06-2010, 04:17 AM

That 1911 is one of the most beautiful firearms I have seen in a very long time. I am green with envy.

Thanks

elderboy02

08-06-2010, 04:59 AM

Nice guns everyone! :tu :gn

HK3-

08-06-2010, 05:55 AM

That 1911 is one of the most beautiful firearms I have seen in a very long time. I am green with envy.

:tpd: Beautiful is an understatement! :tu

JE3146

08-06-2010, 08:44 AM

:tpd: Beautiful is an understatement! :tu

There are moments where words just can't come to mind because your mind sits there in a trance :D

357

08-06-2010, 09:13 AM

That 1911 is one of the most beautiful firearms I have seen in a very long time. I am green with envy.

I agree. That is one heck of a pistol. I am a huge 1911 fan. Despite my handle/username I don't even own a .357......yet. I am love my Kimber as seen in my avatar.

Your WW1 1911 is in excellent condition. I would lean towards not shooting it given its potential value. Then again, the one thing I've learned most from my fellow cigar smokers is that you only live once. Try to enjoy life's finer things while you can; don't save them for a special occasion. Make the occasion special. I'm sure every time you take that beauty to the range it makes the occasion special.

Cigarcop

08-06-2010, 10:01 AM

I say shoot it and enjoy the experience brother...I'm sure you will take care of her regardless.......

Love seeing the goods boys keep um comin

0002S

08-06-2010, 07:18 PM

I say shoot it and enjoy the experience brother...I'm sure you will take care of her regardless.......

Love seeing the goods boys keep um comin

Oh I do from time to time. I have a few others old ones I'll post up too.

Cigarcop

08-06-2010, 08:05 PM

Oh I do from time to time. I have a few others old ones I'll post up too.

Good to hear Shawn, that pistol was made to be shot :D

0002S

08-11-2010, 07:20 PM

This thread has been dead for a few days so here....

Switch Barrel built on a BRNO VZ.24

.338 Win Mag 1-4 VARXII
.264 Win Mag 3-9 VARXII

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Switch4.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Switch2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Switch3.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Switch1.jpg

0002S

08-11-2010, 07:27 PM

458 Win Mag

Built on a BRNO VZ.24

When you really need to stop a Suburban dead in its tracks

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/458WM.jpg

Cigarcop

08-11-2010, 08:42 PM

Love the Curly Maple switch barrel...I'm starting to like you more and more every day Shawn!!!

0002S

08-11-2010, 08:57 PM

Love the Curly Maple switch barrel...I'm starting to like you more and more every day Shawn!!!

Thanks, I'm good to have around when the Zombies come or you want to kill a deer

DrDubzz

08-11-2010, 09:17 PM

traded in my S&W Sigma 40 for a Springfield XD40 recently

I looove the new gun

Wolfgang

08-11-2010, 09:47 PM

I find it amusing that there is a cup of peppermint chamomile tea sitting next to the Glock 27 on my dresser.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/wolfgang8810/table.jpg

0002S

08-12-2010, 05:02 AM

^so which one calms you more?

Ender

08-12-2010, 07:10 AM

Chamomile tea is for making one sleepy or drowsy. I'd say the pistol is definitely for calming...perhaps even for soothing.:D

Wolfgang

08-12-2010, 08:26 AM

The tea was to make me sleep and the 27 gives peace of mind to follow through.

0002S

08-12-2010, 09:47 AM

Ok, some more gun p 0rn

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/CETME2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/M1A.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/AK47.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/CETME.jpg

Wolfgang

08-12-2010, 11:19 AM

Dammit shawn! I'm at work and your showing that stuff. Now I need new pants.! :r

Eleven

08-12-2010, 04:37 PM

This one isn't mine. We visited the Daughter and her new Marine Husband last week in Jacksonville NC. This is his AR-15. I want one!

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8286/167zt.jpg

Cigarcop

08-12-2010, 04:50 PM

You look like a giddy school boy with that thing...You'll just shoot your eye out!!!!!

SNKBYT

08-12-2010, 05:04 PM

my little nail driver.......KIMBER RAPTOR .45ACP
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/BAF%20I/July09/DSCN0475.jpg

physiognomy

08-12-2010, 06:18 PM

my little nail driver.......KIMBER RAPTOR .45ACP

Nice looking pistol, Alex!

Eleven

08-12-2010, 07:40 PM

Nice looking pistol, Alex!

Looks like something out of 'Boondock Saints' :)

PS, I felt like a giddy schoolgirl holding that AR-15!

0002S

08-12-2010, 07:40 PM

my little nail driver.......KIMBER RAPTOR .45ACP
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/BAF%20I/July09/DSCN0475.jpg

I've had the pleasure of seeing this in person and the pictures don't do it justice.

Wolfgang

08-12-2010, 09:52 PM

Hey Shawn we're going to need to meet up more often. Im currently living a mile from I-75 off fowler. I dont know of any ranges up here care to share???

RightAJ

08-12-2010, 09:56 PM

Wolfgang

08-12-2010, 10:03 PM

Cheap shotgun would be my choice.

bonjing

08-12-2010, 10:04 PM

RightAJ

08-12-2010, 10:07 PM

Have you shot before? What have you shot? Better yet, what is your shooting history?

I'm 20, 21 in January (when I can purchase a handgun), and I have little shooting experience.

aj

T.G

08-12-2010, 11:22 PM

hey shooters, what would be an affordable, home protection pistol? Don't need a de or anything, but there have been a few burglaries in our neighborhood lately, and i figure y'all are the ones to ask about this...

Aj

bfg-9000

Wolfgang

08-12-2010, 11:30 PM

Wow Adam, Thank you so much for contributing.

T.G

08-12-2010, 11:46 PM

Wow Adam, Thank you so much for contributing.

No problem. It's my pleasure. As a second suggestion, may I offer the ZF-1.

loki

08-13-2010, 05:26 AM

0002S

08-13-2010, 06:06 AM

Shotgun
Glock 22
30.30 Marlin 336

In that order

elderboy02

08-13-2010, 06:17 AM

Remington 870 HD Shotgun
Glock 22 or 23 (22 for home protection only, 23 if you want to carry it as well)

Eleven

08-13-2010, 06:53 AM

Hey shooters, what would be an affordable, home protection pistol? Don't need a DE or anything, but there have been a few burglaries in our neighborhood lately, and I figure y'all are the ones to ask about this...

aj

I'm no expert, but I bought this gun specifically for home protection. It was cheap enough, came with 2 clips and 2 more with a coupon. So I can now pump 60 rounds into the bad guys :)

Smith and Wesson M&P Sigma 9mm:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/images/firearms/zoom_lg/220025_01_lg.jpg

SNKBYT

08-13-2010, 07:29 AM

Hey shooters, what would be an affordable, home protection pistol? Don't need a DE or anything, but there have been a few burglaries in our neighborhood lately, and I figure y'all are the ones to ask about this...aj
I'm 20, 21 in January (when I can purchase a handgun), and I have little shooting experience.aj

nothing says home protection better than a pump shotgun loaded w/00 buck...
the racking noise of a pump should retreat most bad guys....if you have to shoot you don't have to worry as much about killing a neighbor as you would if shooting a high powered pistol :2

RightAJ

08-13-2010, 07:34 AM

Thanx for the input (and laughs) guys! :) Gonna look into the glocks, the S&W and maybe a shotgun, but we'll see.

aj

elderboy02

08-13-2010, 07:43 AM

If you are looking at S&W's, look at the M&P series. I have a M&P 9mm and it is one of the most accurate guns that I own.

Better yet, buy a shotgun, handgun, and an AR :tu

floydpink

08-13-2010, 07:44 AM

I agree with the shotgun for home defense, a Mossberg 500 specifically for easy moving around.

As far as handguns go, I am from the revolver school and believe that less is better.

If it jams, squeeze again.

With the nerves and adrenaline involved with a defense situation, I am a big fan of Crimson Trace laser grips for any handgun to avoid missing as best as possible.

T.G

08-13-2010, 08:27 AM

I'll agree with the short barrel pump action shotgun reccomendations, altough I would load with #6, because #6 generally won't go through two layers of drywall or won't have enough power left behind it to really damage anyone if it does. 00 buck will go though walls and people at close range.

0002S

08-13-2010, 11:31 AM

Dammit shawn! I'm at work and your showing that stuff. Now I need new pants.!

Enjoy your work day.....sorry about the mess

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Gun1.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Gun2.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Gun4.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Gun6.jpg

0002S

08-13-2010, 11:32 AM

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Gun5.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/Gun25.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/755e15d9.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/OhTheyLaugh.jpg

SNKBYT

08-13-2010, 11:52 AM

so Shawn ...... when is the next herf @ your place? we could have a GUNS & ASHES herf

sikk50

08-13-2010, 01:03 PM

Went down to LAPD with the old man so he could pick up another Glock. We now have a full family of .40's

elderboy02

08-13-2010, 01:11 PM

Very nice! May I ask why you put those gun locks on your rifles?

0002S

08-13-2010, 01:24 PM

so Shawn ...... when is the next herf @ your place? we could have a GUNS & ASHES herf

We'd need to find an outdoor 100-300 yd range. We can call it the BAD ASHE Herf and Shoot. I'll bring some "interesting" fire power. We can chip in for bulk ammo.

Brents place would be great if we could light it up.

You're always welcome to come to my place to Herf. We'd get arrested for shooting downtown though.

0002S

08-13-2010, 01:26 PM

Very nice! May I ask why you put those gun locks on your rifles?

Slows down thieves and sticky fingered children.

Since we moved, I've stored the majority of the rifles. The Man Cave, is now the "mini" Man Cave.

Sort of a Green Acers in reverse move.

elderboy02

08-13-2010, 01:27 PM

Slows down thieves and sticky fingered children.

I see! I keep mine in a safe. I never used the locks as I figured that if I needed to use a rifle around the house, I don't want to be messing around with taking a lock off.

Darrell

08-13-2010, 01:28 PM

Very nice! May I ask why you put those gun locks on your rifles?

Safety? :r

bonjing

08-13-2010, 02:01 PM

I'm 20, 21 in January (when I can purchase a handgun), and I have little shooting experience.

aj

OK, here goes my sales person schpeel. Go to a range with some buddies, or a take a class and learn how to shoot, I prefer taking a class. Once you learn your safety and fundamentals try out a few different guns and see what works best for you. All the firearms here that were mentioned are all good, but if you do not feel comfortable shooting one, what good does it do for you?

I've told this story before and it's worth mentioning again. I have seen two people walk into a gun store/range, both wanting to buy and rent glocks because of what they have seen and heard. They went to the range and tried a few different firearms; one ended up buying the Glock, the other a Sig.

Each person is going to be different. I'm a Sig guy, because I shoot better with them and they feel better in my hand. Do I own Glocks HELL YES, they are great firearms, but they don't feel good in my hand.

With all that said I use a Smith and Wesson 686 at home.

bonjing

08-13-2010, 02:02 PM

Went down to LAPD with the old man so he could pick up another Glock. We now have a full family of .40's

IF you get your hands on an HK45, not the USP, and you don't like it let me know :D

SNKBYT

08-13-2010, 02:08 PM

We'd need to find an outdoor 100-300 yd range. We can call it the BAD ASHE Herf and Shoot. I'll bring some "interesting" fire power. We can chip in for bulk ammo.

Brents place would be great if we could light it up.

You're always welcome to come to my place to Herf. We'd get arrested for shooting downtown though.

when I get back from vacation, we'll have to set something up for a smoke or two

0002S

08-13-2010, 04:44 PM

I see! I keep mine in a safe. I never used the locks as I figured that if I needed to use a rifle around the house, I don't want to be messing around with taking a lock off.

There are too many for safes. That's not all of them. The room/basement (old home) that they were in was secure and alarmed.

I keep a .38 snub, Moss 590, and Glock 22 by the bed for "just" those special occasions.

Now that I live in the city, the Man Cave is now the mini Man Cave and 95% of my collection is in secure packed long term storage.

0002S

08-13-2010, 04:46 PM

when I get back from vacation, we'll have to set something up for a smoke or two

Yes we do. We need to hit the range and shoot the BAR. Plus I have two ARs that I need to get on paper @ 100 and 200

Cigarcop

08-13-2010, 06:33 PM

Shawn, any ranges down your way to reach out to 600 or 1000yrds ??

0002S

08-13-2010, 06:44 PM

Shawn, any ranges down your way to reach out to 600 or 1000yrds ??

Not that I know of

Cigarcop

08-13-2010, 06:49 PM

So what kinda distances do your ranges stretch out to..only 100 or 200??

loki

08-13-2010, 07:13 PM

Shawn, any ranges down your way to reach out to 600 or 1000yrds ??

range im a member of is talking about putting in a 600 yard range

Cigarcop

08-13-2010, 07:23 PM

range im a member of is talking about putting in a 600 yard range

The range I'll be at tomorrow is a 600 Yrd range but we have two that go to 1000...They are a bit of a drive to get to so when we go its an early all day event!

0002S

08-13-2010, 07:35 PM

So what kinda distances do your ranges stretch out to..only 100 or 200??

I've only shot indoors here. I've not had the time since I've moved to find a new range home. There has to be a range out too at least 200 yds within 50 miles though.

Cigarcop

08-13-2010, 07:38 PM

That sucks Shawn..well get you azz up here and you can go in the morning :D

Wolfgang

08-13-2010, 09:18 PM

Down here in Sarasota there is one ~1000Yds. Its prety cool but the owners are asshoIes.

0002S

08-14-2010, 11:06 AM

Down here in Sarasota there is one ~1000Yds. Its prety cool but the owners are asshoIes.

I looked it. How so are they a$$holes

Wolfgang

08-14-2010, 11:13 AM

The whole time I was there they (perhaps not the owners the range hands) were giving me crap for this and that. The down time when the range goes cold lasts between 20 and 30 minutes and I just dont have the patience to wait around when I could be sending lead down range at other places.

0002S

08-14-2010, 11:40 AM

SNKBYT

08-14-2010, 12:04 PM

Not that I know of

http://www.traderscreek.com/gun_clubs/florida.asp

SUOrangeGuy

08-24-2010, 02:48 PM

Cigarcop

08-25-2010, 08:26 PM

I just ordered my first revolver. S&W 686+ 6" barrel. I should have it by the end of the week and I'm pretty excited.

Other than snap caps and a few speedloaders anybody have some good accessory recommendations?

I have that same revolver in Stainless, only thing you might want is to ditch the wooden grips and get a set of Pachmayrs...moocho better in your hand :tu

looking for know

08-25-2010, 09:49 PM

I just ordered my first revolver. S&W 686+ 6" barrel. I should have it by the end of the week and I'm pretty excited.

Other than snap caps and a few speedloaders anybody have some good accessory recommendations?

Good choice!
There's my 686 in the middle below. 6", full underlug, non-fluted. If your trigger is as light as mine, you'll want to be very careful firing single action.
http://a.imageshack.us/img132/9922/threepisthc0.jpg

JaKaacH

08-27-2010, 08:40 AM

HK3-

08-27-2010, 09:20 AM

What a shame.

357

08-27-2010, 09:34 AM

Idiots. If they push that through before November, the right could have a super-majority come January.

SUOrangeGuy

08-27-2010, 09:24 PM

EPA already said no... so its a dead issue for now.

TheManWithNoName

08-30-2010, 07:30 PM

Love your pics Shawn :tu

T.G

08-30-2010, 08:00 PM

Don't take this link one way or another, as in a political direction or opinion.
I just wanted to provide this info for the shooters, hunters and collectors.

Talk of banning lead ammo. (http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/epa-reviewing-request-ban-led-bullets)

Didn't they already ban lead shot for waterfowl hunting like 10-15 years ago? Or is that only a California thing?

JaKaacH

08-30-2010, 08:13 PM

Didn't they already ban lead shot for waterfowl hunting like 10-15 years ago? Or is that only a California thing?

Yes. Lead was banned for waterfowl hunting, nation wide I think. If I remember correctly the argument for the ban in waterfowl hunting areas was that the birds would ingest the lead shot while feeding. Not a waterfowl hunter but I'm guessing that the ducks and geese feed off of the bottom of shallow waters, thats how they ingest it, then they suffer from lead poisoning.

But shooting at the range punching holes in paper or bowling pins, knocking over steel plates I don't see much harm to wildlife in that instance. The banning of lead in ammo, in my opinion, was just a way to make the cost of shooting sports prohibitive for some.

T.G

08-30-2010, 08:44 PM

Yes. Lead was banned for waterfowl hunting, nation wide I think. If I remember correctly the argument for the ban in waterfowl hunting areas was that the birds would ingest the lead shot while feeding. Not a waterfowl hunter but I'm guessing that the ducks and geese feed off of the bottom of shallow waters, thats how they ingest it, then they suffer from lead poisoning.

But shooting at the range punching holes in paper or bowling pins, knocking over steel plates I don't see much harm to wildlife in that instance. The banning of lead in ammo, in my opinion, was just a way to make the cost of shooting sports prohibitive for some.

The argument to ban the lead sounds about like I remember it.

My comment wasn't about banning it for paper-punching (which is silly IMO), but rather a question based on how the article was written. The article made it sound as if there were no restrictions whatsoever on lead ammo in hunting use.

JaKaacH

08-30-2010, 08:56 PM

The argument to ban the lead sounds about like I remember it.

My comment wasn't about banning it for paper-punching (which is silly IMO), but rather a question based on how the article was written. The article made it sound as if there were no restrictions whatsoever on lead ammo in hunting use.

They, the anti lead crowd, ought to think about what they wish for. I didn't think about it until I read it later, but the non-lead ammo would be less effective in hunting, and a danger to law enforcement. The non-lead ammo would have much more penetration. In hunting the bullets would go through the animal, leaving it wounded, instead of expanding and delivering all the energy for a quick kill. The extra penetration in relation to law enforcement might make some body armor ineffective/useless.

HK3-

08-31-2010, 08:15 AM

They, the anti lead crowd, ought to think about what they wish for. I didn't think about it until I read it later, but the non-lead ammo would be less effective in hunting, and a danger to law enforcement. The non-lead ammo would have much more penetration. In hunting the bullets would go through the animal, leaving it wounded, instead of expanding and delivering all the energy for a quick kill. The extra penetration in relation to law enforcement might make some body armor ineffective/useless.

Agree totally. Not to mention law enforment shooting "pass through" shots putting innocent bystanders in harms way.

Jokermann

09-09-2010, 07:00 AM

I have looked at this thread enough, time to post a picture. My Springfield xD 9 with Heine night sights and a Kimber Pro Carry II 45 that I picked up earlier this week. The Kimber has night sights as well. Crummy cell phone pic...

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/jokermann1/pistol.jpg

Not pictured are a Walther P22, Remington 870 20 ga, Taurus PT 140 and a Marlinn 60 rifle.

SNKBYT

09-09-2010, 07:08 AM

Kimber Raptor 4" .45ACP w/Esmerelda hand crafted grips

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/BAF%20I/July09/DSCN0475.jpg

http://www.esmeralda.cc/

elderboy02

09-09-2010, 07:10 AM

Very nice! :gn

HK3-

09-09-2010, 07:10 AM

Kimber Raptor 4" .45ACP w/Esmerelda hand crafted grips

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/BAF%20I/July09/DSCN0475.jpg

Nice grips and gun! :tu

Still thinking about picking up a kimber. Anyone have anything negative to say about them? Looking at the covert custom II.

357

09-09-2010, 07:20 AM

Kimber Raptor 4" .45ACP w/Esmerelda hand crafted grips

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/BAF%20I/July09/DSCN0475.jpg

Great pic Alex. That is just as you described it to me. Beautiful.

Hal, I have had my Custom Stainless II since late 2002. I love that pistol. It is the full 5" model. I've even had a friend who shot it and shortly thereafter sold his Glock and bought Kimber. I know the two are apples to oranges, but he like it that much.

floydpink

09-10-2010, 08:41 AM

Last night was the night I hoped would never come; the first time I drew my firearm in self defense.

A family across the street has had numerous complaints about their aggressive pitbull who stays chained in the backyard in the Florida heat.

At 9pm I was walking my 8 pound Shih Tzu and talking to my next door neighbor when the pitbull charged across the street, growling and showing his teeth. he took my dog in his mouth, flung it to the side and pinned my neighbor against his garge and continued to bark and growl.

About the time I drew my firearm, the neighbor, who is handicapped, made it across the street and was able to pull the dog off.

My dog seemed ok but the next door neighbor called the police and animal control.

After filling out a report with my side of the story, it was determined that I would have been justified to take, "one clean shot" once the dog crossed the street onto my property.

Thankfully, it ended without a shot and the pitbulls owner recived a fine.

HK3-

09-10-2010, 08:49 AM

Wow! ^^ One breed of dog that I will never understand. I have no use for them. Glad to hear your dog is ok. Tough call to make when you really want to TCB.

I live in a neighborhood where we have a leash law statewide. People seem to have a real problem and just let their dogs roam. It's annoying when your dogs are on a leash while others are tauting yours and being a nuisance. Keep telling myself to get pepper spray but I think it will only cause friction between me and the owners.

floydpink

09-10-2010, 09:00 AM

There was a little exchange between the pitbull owner and a few concerned neighbors. I felt it best to go inside and did.

Had it been my 5 year old in her bike being attacked, there would have been a pitbull being bagged up and carted away.

Wolfgang

09-10-2010, 09:26 AM

floydpink

09-10-2010, 10:00 AM

I understand that breeds have traits but in all honesty a lot of it has to do with the owner. Where I live breeds like that are not allowed and its kinda nice knowing ill never be in that situation.

I am thankful everything worked out for you, your pup, and your neighbor.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

Totally agree. That was a big part of my discussion with the animal control officer. This poor dog has been chained all summer in the back yard and hopefully will get some relief after the owner get sited for cruelty.

I've also seen the owner smack him on the head in an apparant attempt to "train" him.

Sad situation all around but definitely on the radar at this point.

357

09-10-2010, 11:08 AM

Totally agree. That was a big part of my discussion with the animal control officer. This poor dog has been chained all summer in the back yard and hopefully will get some relief after the owner get sited for cruelty.

I've also seen the owner smack him on the head in an apparant attempt to "train" him.

Sad situation all around but definitely on the radar at this point.

At least you were ready. As the boy scouts say, be prepared. Carrying your firearm (responsibly of course) is the best way to do that.

Wolfgang

09-14-2010, 05:35 PM

Looking to keep myself busy tweaking and building a mid to long distance rifle/ar. I dont know. Its a topic i know little about but the 10/22 is getting a little old.

What do you all think?

TheManWithNoName

09-19-2010, 03:55 PM

Well I'm excited to share some good news with y'all: I'm the new proud owner of a Ruger LCP .380. :tu The coolest part: I won this gun through a promotion that Impact Guns held! Posted some pics, with its Hornady "Critical Defense" 90 grain rounds and pocket holster. Only been able to shoot the tiny thing once but there were no FTF/FTE problems with the cheap range ammo. Need a cheaper place to shoot around Gainesville though. I know little about the .380, I usually carry a .45. Are these little 90 grainers viable rounds for defense or should I keep it in a BUG capacity? I was halfway toying with the idea of trading it for a SP101 .357 but I like the way it just rides so invisibly in the pocket.
Y'all have a great Sunday, looking forward to seeing many of you at EPIC.

safariguy

09-19-2010, 04:04 PM

SNKBYT

09-20-2010, 10:30 AM

Steve Lee (I like guns) has a new video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1geyoxeifk0

towards the end of the video look and see who pops out from behind a tree :r

WyGuy

10-17-2010, 04:03 PM

My new G23 Gen4, have 200 rounds of WWB and UMC through it with no problems whatsoever.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/mike2212/G23.jpg

bonjing

10-17-2010, 05:13 PM

I can't wait for those to come to Califoirnia

Wolfgang

10-17-2010, 05:21 PM

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/wolfgang8810/IMG_0443.jpg
G27 sporting Winchester PDX series.

OLS

10-22-2010, 09:03 AM

elderboy02

10-22-2010, 09:12 AM

I love the Glock 23 and 27's. Nice pickups fellas! :gn

OLS

10-26-2010, 10:18 AM

Really??? Nobody has any kind of estimate on that Colt 45?

Wolfgang

10-26-2010, 10:26 AM

I have no idea but ill bump the thread for you.

Items are worth no more than what someone will pay :ss

elderboy02

10-26-2010, 10:27 AM

Really??? Nobody has any kind of estimate on that Colt 45?

Not sure. Sorry Brad.

357

10-26-2010, 12:00 PM

Really??? Nobody has any kind of estimate on that Colt 45?

Which, top of the page? If so, ask Alex.

docdoty

10-26-2010, 12:07 PM

I figured I would take a pic while I was cleaning my guns the other day. Here you go enjoy

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=9ab5ddf11d&view=att&th=12be965ce8b745b3&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=1350682038321095288-1&zw

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=9ab5ddf11d&view=att&th=12be965ce8b745b3&attid=0.3&disp=inline&realattid=1350682038321095288-3&zw

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=9ab5ddf11d&view=att&th=12be965ce8b745b3&attid=0.6&disp=inline&realattid=1350682038321095288-6&zw

docdoty

10-26-2010, 12:08 PM

Sorry guys they wouldnt load correctly Ill try again when I get home.

TheManWithNoName

10-26-2010, 01:33 PM

I have a question for the fellers. A guy brings in an old Colt 45 new service revolver with sweet old ivory
steer head grips today, looks like a model 1917 or even earlier, and we have been webbing it up trying to
get a relative value. I will post pics, but while I get that into gear, anyone know it's general value.
I don't want to join a gun forum, lol. Sorry, too, these are video caps

Looks sweet OLS, for a quick check you can search Gunbroker.com to see what they're going for. Looks like they vary greatly by condition.

BloodSpite

10-26-2010, 02:11 PM

I have a question for the fellers. A guy brings in an old Colt 45 new service revolver with sweet old ivory
steer head grips today, looks like a model 1917 or even earlier, and we have been webbing it up trying to
get a relative value. I will post pics, but while I get that into gear, anyone know it's general value.
I don't want to join a gun forum, lol. Sorry, too, these are video caps

I have a friend of mine who is a collector. I'll ask him and see what he can tell me for you man. I may drop you a PM if he needs some more info meanwhile I gave him a link to your pictures.

SNKBYT

10-26-2010, 02:12 PM

Really??? Nobody has any kind of estimate on that Colt 45?

PM sent

HK3-

10-27-2010, 05:41 AM

I've got a used pair of Troy Industries Folding Battle Sights for sale. If anyone is interested drop me a PM.

bonjing

10-28-2010, 12:49 AM

Not exactly a firearm, but here's my latest pick. Couldn't pass up this bargain
147gr 9mm HST

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0115.jpg

elderboy02

10-28-2010, 06:22 AM

Very nice! I love HST! How much did you get it for per box?

0002S

10-28-2010, 06:21 PM

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_9520.jpg

docdoty

10-29-2010, 12:06 AM

some very nice AR's there shawn

Goldie

10-29-2010, 09:39 AM

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_9520.jpg

D*mn, I'm in love.

Trumpet

10-29-2010, 08:01 PM

Finally got to take a few of the latest....

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/DSC00825.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/DSC00823.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/DSC00822.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/DSC00821.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/DSC00820.jpg

elderboy02

10-29-2010, 08:13 PM

Very nice! :tu

theonlybear4CORT

11-07-2010, 08:11 AM

Ordered my BCM upper Thursday night hope to get it some time this week will post pics.
Posted via Mobile Device

Trumpet

11-07-2010, 03:48 PM

Ordered my BCM upper Thursday night hope to get it some time this week will post pics.
Posted via Mobile Device

What config.?

macms

11-07-2010, 04:17 PM

Shawn, dam nice reloading station and work bench sir!

I won't post any pics of my stuff because we all know these, but thus far they are:

G21
G30
Ruger LCR
Ruger Mark III
Ruger Mini-14 Tactical w/red dot
Rem 308 bolt gun w/glass
Mossy 509A1 w/mounted LED flashlight

I think this pretty much covers HD...:r :r :r

hammondc

11-07-2010, 04:32 PM

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_9520.jpg

Awesome. Whats the configuration for the bottom one?

Bill86

11-07-2010, 04:58 PM

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_9520.jpg

Those look nice!

I can't wait till my AR-15 gets finished. Only have the foregrip, still waiting on getting a quad rail.

0002S

11-07-2010, 06:27 PM

Awesome. Whats the configuration for the bottom one?

Spike's lower
DPMS lightweight upper
Troy rear BUIS
MI BUIS
MAGPUL hand guard, stock, forend grip
STARK grip
EoTech

0002S

11-07-2010, 06:29 PM

Painted the roll marks

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0777.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0778.jpg

elderboy02

11-07-2010, 06:30 PM

hammondc

11-07-2010, 07:43 PM

Painted the roll marks

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0777.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0778.jpg

Man...that gun is sick. If I make bonus this year, I will be in the market for an AR of some sort.

0002S

11-07-2010, 07:56 PM

Man...that gun is sick. If I make bonus this year, I will be in the market for an AR of some sort.

You should look into building one. You can be into a basic A3 for less than $700.

hammondc

11-07-2010, 07:57 PM

yeah...I have just stated kicking around the idea of building one.

theonlybear4CORT

11-08-2010, 05:29 PM

What config.?
This upper
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-MI-p/bcm-urg-m4-16%20mit10%20fde.htm
With a kaiser defense lower, stag arms lower parts.
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Wolfgang

11-11-2010, 08:46 PM

Just though id share a picture of the family with you gun nuts. http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/315/a/9/knife_family_by_wolfgang8810-d32mwmq.jpg

MiamiE

11-12-2010, 05:55 AM

Don't know if I have posted here before, but...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/MiamiE/photo-1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/MiamiE/n747953833_1975855_7608.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/MiamiE/Padron.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/MiamiE/IMG00019.jpg

BigFrank

11-12-2010, 10:16 AM

Martel

11-12-2010, 10:38 AM

Thinking of picking up a Mosin-Nagant... Anyone have any experience with these? Know which model is better? Also, most info I find on these say they use a 7.62mm x 54mm, can the similar AK 7.62mm x 39mm be used with the Mosin, or vice versa?
No dice, Frank, 2 different rounds. The best Nagants were the ones from Finland, but they're pretty thin on the ground these days. Avoid the carbines... the recoil is just plain brutal, and they are no fun to shoot.

Cheers,
G