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BigFrank
11-12-2010, 03:30 PM
No dice, Frank, 2 different rounds. The best Nagants were the ones from Finland, but they're pretty thin on the ground these days. Avoid the carbines... the recoil is just plain brutal, and they are no fun to shoot.
Martel is right. Often the Mosin ammo is referred to as 7.62x54R
Ok thanks for the info guys...Is the nasty recoil from the shortened carbine length?
If the Finnish models were the best what's the best gun as far as availability goes?
Martel
11-12-2010, 04:14 PM
Ok thanks for the info guys...Is the nasty recoil from the shortened carbine length?
If the Finnish models were the best what's the best gun as far as availability goes?
Partially, and it's magnified by the 19th century ergonomics of the stock design. The 7.62x54 is a pretty stout round, roughly the equivalent of our 30-06.
I honestly don't know what's available these days in Nagants... it seemed like there was an endless supply of Russian WWII-era rifles from the surplus guys and at gun shows. These are pretty typical and might be the best bang for the buck. There were (and probably still are) tons of Chinese made carbines available; serviceable knock-around guns, but nothing to get excited about. I've had quite a few of these, but now own only two; a postwar era, Polish manufactured carbine, and a US manufactured rifle made by Westinghouse. These were contracted by the Russian Govt. during WWI. (One cool feature of the pre-Communist era rifles: the rear sight was graduated in "Arshins" rather than meters or feet, an Arshin being the length of the Czar's stride.) I'll buy another one if the right one (M39 manufactured in Finland by Sako) turns up for the right price. A great place to shop for these old surplus pieces is Shotgun News.
Cheers,
G
bonjing
11-13-2010, 10:38 AM
SHOT Show coming up :banger :noon
0002S
11-14-2010, 11:17 AM
New Build Started:
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0883.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0885.jpg
Going SBR on this one and maybe a can.....:hy
BigFrank
11-14-2010, 01:06 PM
I like the selector. Undead, dead and live...
MTB996
11-14-2010, 02:34 PM
My newest toy to keep with me at all times....
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa68/mtb996/guns/IMAG0285.jpg
I am in awe how great this gun shoots (trigger, accuracy).... now just waiting 7 months for my new holster to get made....
Cigarcop
11-16-2010, 07:25 PM
Going SBR on this one and maybe a can.....:hy
Get the Can Shawn :banger
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0d620b3127ccefa96448c55b200000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
0002S
11-16-2010, 07:54 PM
Get the Can Shawn :banger
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0d620b3127ccefa96448c55b200000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
SO NICE
300 Blackout 9.5" with can is where I'm heading.
sikk50
11-16-2010, 07:59 PM
New Build Started:
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0883.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0885.jpg
Going SBR on this one and maybe a can.....:hy
Thats sick! Do they come Cal legal (bullet button)?
Cigarcop
11-16-2010, 08:02 PM
Shawn, heres the Blaser in .338LM I was talking about at Epic and a few others!!
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9da23b3127ccec691c82f5aec00000040O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
18" Shorty in .308
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/DSC_0248.jpg?t=1289962525
Blaser in .308
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_1483.jpg?t=1289962727
.338NM Badger M2008 Action
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/DSC_0256.jpg?t=1289962824
Cigarcop
11-16-2010, 08:06 PM
The full Larue Build
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0d625b3127ccefa9c5adeee2100000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
DPMS Mini SASS
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9dd09b3127ccec6ed6f3c5a7200000040O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
SNKBYT
11-16-2010, 08:39 PM
wow.....very nice...sniper 101
0002S
11-17-2010, 03:15 AM
When are you going to start posting target groups?
Cigarcop
11-17-2010, 06:44 AM
When are you going to start posting target groups? I'll post some targets with load data tonight.
theonlybear4CORT
11-19-2010, 09:04 PM
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Can post pictures from my IPhone :-(
bonjing
11-20-2010, 02:28 PM
Thats sick! Do they come Cal legal (bullet button)?
It's a Spike's, good to go.
St. Lou Stu
11-20-2010, 04:09 PM
Its a little long... but I watched it a couple times...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=964rK6Qlwos
So much fun!
theonlybear4CORT
11-21-2010, 12:03 PM
This upper
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-M4-Upper-Receiver-MI-p/bcm-urg-m4-16%20mit10%20fde.htm
With a kaiser defense lower, stag arms lower parts.
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http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa450/Dickhurts707/1cdfc4d9.jpg
hammondc
11-21-2010, 07:05 PM
Love the 2 tone.
sikk50
11-21-2010, 11:02 PM
It's a Spike's, good to go.
I finnally know what to tell my parents I want for graduation now! :noon
theonlybear4CORT
11-21-2010, 11:14 PM
Thanks hammondc.
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0002S
11-22-2010, 05:20 AM
Thats sick! Do they come Cal legal (bullet button)?
Yeah they're Cali legal lowers.
Bullet button is not available on Zombie roll mark....but
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0777.jpg
SNKBYT
11-22-2010, 06:47 AM
Yeah they're Cali legal lowers.
Bullet button is not available on Zombie roll mark....but
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Man%20Cave/IMG_0777.jpg
nice......we need to get together, would love to see your collection :D
0002S
11-22-2010, 05:21 PM
nice......we need to get together, would love to see your collection :D
Anytime, I am 6 blocks away from Coronas downtown.
Cigarcop
11-22-2010, 05:46 PM
When are you going to start posting target groups?
A little late Shawn but I didn't forget!!
All are on 8x10 Cardstock with 3" Dot with load data for each
6.5x47 Suppressed
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0d620b3127ccefa96448c55b200000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
600 Yrds
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cf03b3127ccefbf859d8563400000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
400Yrds
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cf03b3127ccefbf9cbbb765200000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
Twisted .308 w/18" Barrel
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/DSC_0248.jpg?t=1289962525
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cf03b3127ccefbf9af89765200000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
Cigarcop
11-22-2010, 05:48 PM
Heres one from a .243 I have on a Stiller action, Krieger barrel, 7 Twist, in a Mcmillan A-3 Stock...I use this one in F-Class sometimes
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cf03b3127ccefbf83ca197d700000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
WyGuy
11-22-2010, 05:54 PM
Excuse my noobness, but what kind of rifle is that .308? Looks awesome!
Cigarcop
11-22-2010, 06:25 PM
Excuse my noobness, but what kind of rifle is that .308? Looks awesome! No worries Mike...its built on a trued Remmy action but the whole rifle is a custom build not "off the shelf"!
0002S
11-22-2010, 06:26 PM
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!
6.5x47 Suppressed, what suppressor?
I am thinking of the following on an AR platform: (I'll be ordering soon)
300 AAC Blackout w/AAC suppressor
or
Adams Arms 7.5" piston upper w/suppressor (which I'm not sure)
Suggestions????
Cigarcop
11-22-2010, 06:30 PM
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!
6.5x47 Suppressed, what suppressor?
I am thinking of the following on an AR platform: (I'll be ordering soon)
300 AAC Blackout w/AAC suppressor
or
Adams Arms 7.5" piston upper w/suppressor (which I'm not sure)
Suggestions???? I have two AACs...a 762 quick detach and a Cyclone K direct thread.....AAC has great customer service which is a huge consideration when choosing a can
0002S
11-22-2010, 07:02 PM
I have two AACs...a 762 quick detach and a Cyclone K direct thread.....AAC has great customer service which is a huge consideration when choosing a can
Will they deal direct or do you have to go through a dealer?
Cigarcop
11-22-2010, 07:05 PM
Well I guess I really shouldn't have said I had two...two that fit the 6.5 but both the 762 and Cyclone are in .30 caliber..
Heres a pic of the 762 next to an AAC Titan for my .338...that thing is a beast compared to the 762.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cf03b3127ccefbf954fa36c400000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0cf03b3127ccefbf96edb36f800000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
Titan is for this guy and my .338LM
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/DSC_0256.jpg?t=1289962824
Cigarcop
11-22-2010, 07:06 PM
Will they deal direct or do you have to go through a dealer?
You need to be a class 3 dealer
0002S
11-22-2010, 07:27 PM
You need to be a class 3 dealer
Trust purchase, will they deal direct and ship?
Cigarcop
11-23-2010, 05:52 AM
RoyTrust purchase, will they deal direct and ship?
Doesn't matter how u set it up, LLC, Trust, Corp, or as an individual...you will have to go thru s class 3 dealer and send a check to the BATF for your $200 Tax Stamp
0002S
11-23-2010, 06:07 AM
Roy
Doesn't matter how u set it up, LLC, Trust, Corp, or as an individual...you will have to go thru s class 3 dealer and send a check to the BATF for your $200 Tax Stamp
Ah, I see what you're saying and understand. I didn't know if AAC acted as a direct dealer.
I have a local dealer who sells them.
A few oldies but goodies
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/Picture139-1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/Picture140-1.jpg
My great grandmother used to use this one as a hammer around the house
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/Picture138-2.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/Picture142-1.jpg
This one was passed down by my grandfather
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/Picture137.jpg
This one I play with at the range but I want to go hog/deer/varmint hunting with soon
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/Picture149.jpg
Martel
11-24-2010, 03:15 PM
A few oldies but goodies
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/Picture139-1.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/Picture140-1.jpg
New Service? I love old Colts.
Cheers,
G
0002S
11-24-2010, 06:11 PM
Nice
New Service? I love old Colts.
Cheers,
G
Don't know much about it really except a family friend used to carry it as his side arm when he was a police officer. Says D.A. 38 on the barrel. Anyone know much about these?
Martel
11-25-2010, 07:51 AM
Don't know much about it really except a family friend used to carry it as his side arm when he was a police officer. Says D.A. 38 on the barrel. Anyone know much about these?
It might be one of several models, it's tough to tell exactly from the photo. Does the gun have any other markings beside that? If it was a PD issue gun, there will sometimes be a department marking, usually on the butt. Is this a very large frame revolver, or a smaller one? If you can provide me with any other markings on the gun, along with the serial number (via PM for security) I may be able to help you determine what you have and when it was made.
Additionally, you can contact Colt... for a small fee, they will send you a letter telling you the exact date of manufacture and where the gun was originally shipped. These factory letters are pretty nice to have on a gun which has some collector value. Your Colt looks to be in nice shape for its age, and would probably have at least some moderate value.
Cheers,
G
It might be one of several models, it's tough to tell exactly from the photo. Does the gun have any other markings beside that? If it was a PD issue gun, there will sometimes be a department marking, usually on the butt. Is this a very large frame revolver, or a smaller one? If you can provide me with any other markings on the gun, along with the serial number (via PM for security) I may be able to help you determine what you have and when it was made.
Additionally, you can contact Colt... for a small fee, they will send you a letter telling you the exact date of manufacture and where the gun was originally shipped. These factory letters are pretty nice to have on a gun which has some collector value. Your Colt looks to be in nice shape for its age, and would probably have at least some moderate value.
Cheers,
G
Thanks brother. I will PM you some info tomorrow. :tu
Eleven
11-25-2010, 11:36 PM
I am thinking about a starter-type of AR15, I like the looks of the Smith and Wesson M&P15.
Any advice? Are there cheaper/better models out there? Anyone have one laying around they wanna sell :)
My son-in-law (a Marine) had this one, my wife took this picture and saw the look on my face and knew I would end up with one some day:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs205.snc4/38576_1350184037685_1323882237_30801570_3975692_n. jpg
hammondc
11-26-2010, 04:05 PM
I am thinking about a starter-type of AR15, I like the looks of the Smith and Wesson M&P15.
Any advice? Are there cheaper/better models out there? Anyone have one laying around they wanna sell :)
My son-in-law (a Marine) had this one, my wife took this picture and saw the look on my face and knew I would end up with one some day:
Something I have been looking into as well. There are soooooo many options.
theonlybear4CORT
11-26-2010, 05:15 PM
Good rifle but you can build one and say it'd one of a kind. That's what I did its not that hard look up YouTube videos for help I did and it helped me out.
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bonjing
11-26-2010, 05:42 PM
I am thinking about a starter-type of AR15, I like the looks of the Smith and Wesson M&P15.
Any advice? Are there cheaper/better models out there? Anyone have one laying around they wanna sell :)
The S & W's are very good rifles for the price, I like their M&P 15 MOE. Are there better out there yes, but for cheaper probably not. You can look at DPMS for cheap rifles, I can't own one due to our state still having a AW ban (banned by name), but I did own one of their uppers and it did shoot fairly well for what the intended use was, a beater rifle. I've heard lots of ups and downs regarding DPMS so be careful.
I'd personally go with building one of your own. Find a lower receiver, almost any will do (for me it's the one with the logo I like best) and start from there. Look at Bravo Co: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/ for quality/variety of uppers.
The reason for building your own, you can put all the little goodies that YOU want on it versus, spending the money on a complete rifle and then spending more money to upgrade it. That's just my opinion though. It's very easy to build one yourself if you can follow directions.
sikk50
11-27-2010, 04:17 PM
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/sikk50/e7788d21.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/sikk50/c1778717.jpg
:)
Martel
11-27-2010, 04:39 PM
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/sikk50/e7788d21.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/sikk50/c1778717.jpg
:)
Nice rig. Galco Avenger holster?
Cheers,
G
sikk50
11-28-2010, 01:20 AM
Close, its the SOB (small of back) model. Very comfortable
theonlybear4CORT
11-29-2010, 03:57 PM
Glock fo-tay?
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sikk50
11-29-2010, 07:09 PM
Glock fo-tay?
Posted via Mobile Device
Si
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/sikk50/e7788d21.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/sikk50/c1778717.jpg
:)
Cool.
How did you get it to stick to the wall of the shower like that?
sikk50
11-29-2010, 07:15 PM
Cool.
How did you get it to stick to the wall of the shower like that?
Suction cups and loogies.
It's our kitchen counter, I just took the pic sideways
Bill86
11-29-2010, 07:21 PM
Cool.
How did you get it to stick to the wall of the shower like that?
:r :r :r
I think next year is the year for me to buy a new pistol I'm thinking USP Tactical compact .45 with a silencer we'll see.
Martel
11-29-2010, 07:34 PM
:r :r :r
I think next year is the year for me to buy a new pistol I'm thinking USP Tactical compact .45 with a silencer we'll see.
I love my USP .45...great gun.
Cheers,
G
Bill86
11-29-2010, 07:48 PM
I love my USP .45...great gun.
Cheers,
G
Yeah I held one and it's definitely the gun for me. I just gotta put down the $1500-$1700 the whole deal is going to cost me.
bonjing
11-29-2010, 11:05 PM
My HSC expired, I haven't bought a pistol in almost 2 years :sad, that means I broke a promise to the gf when I said I'd only by one a year :D.
Time to make up for that :hy
Bill86
11-29-2010, 11:08 PM
My HSC expired, I haven't bought a pistol in almost 2 years :sad, that means I broke a promise to the gf when I said I'd only by one a year :D.
Time to make up for that :hy
Yeah lying is bad man, you better go take care of that. :r
Darrell
12-03-2010, 02:12 PM
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/sikk50/e7788d21.jpg
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/sikk50/c1778717.jpg
:)
Too bad a holster is useless in CA since you can't carry it. :td
Martel
12-03-2010, 05:56 PM
This looks like a fun event: Oklahoma Full Auto shoot and trade show.
http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/exclusives/64615/OFASTS-Gun-Apocalypse.html
Cheers,
G
replicant_argent
12-03-2010, 07:51 PM
Getting very tempted to order up a GI or Commander sized Rock Island .45 just for the hell of it. I have been feeling "old school" lately.
Wolfgang
12-03-2010, 09:57 PM
Got a question for you guys.
My work has had some threats come in and while in my contract it says I cant have weapons im thinking of conceal carrying anyways. Its just one of those things that irks me a little wondering if any of you have been in the same situation.
Sub note: I do have my CCW license.
LostAbbott
12-03-2010, 10:25 PM
Got a question for you guys.
My work has had some threats come in and while in my contract it says I cant have weapons im thinking of conceal carrying anyways. Its just one of those things that irks me a little wondering if any of you have been in the same situation.
Sub note: I do have my CCW license.
If they catch you they will fire you on the spot. Also they might be able to pursue legal actual against you for carrying on their private property. I always carry a knife wherever (and I know you have some damn good ones) I am sure you would not have too much trouble taking out a fool with that is need be.
Wolfgang
12-03-2010, 10:31 PM
and I carry a knife while i work too and no one seems to care. Managers have asked to borrow it for different tasks. Guess ill stick with that. I hope its to never use it like that though. Just texted a manager about my concerns and she said a Police officer is now going to be in the store for the next few weeks so that's a relief. Problem solved next topic.
What to you all think of .380? :ss
replicant_argent
12-04-2010, 07:20 AM
unless you are wearing a speedo all the time and need something the size of an LCP to tuck away in your nether regions, might as well carry a 9mm and the much higher energy loadings and performance that caliber offers. I suppose if you had hands the size of an 8 year old, pistols that small are useful, but last time I shot a .25 (20 years ago, and about the size of an LCP) I thought I could do better chucking it at a BGs head.
and I do not like the images of you that just popped into my brain, thank you very much, Mark......
replicant_argent
12-04-2010, 07:23 AM
oh, and jobs are hard to come by in these times. Unless you are willing to find another job, and truly do not like the one you have and the consequences of how it will reflect upon your references, leave the piece at home. Interesting they have no prob with a knife, though. I would be willing to bet that those are verboten in the company handbook as well.
Wolfgang
12-04-2010, 07:50 AM
Interesting they have no prob with a knife, though. I would be willing to bet that those are verboten in the company handbook as well.
Knives are covered in the same rule but most of my managers don't stick to Corporates handbook for much of anything really. If you walked around the store ill bet more than 50% of associates have a knife clipped in their pocket :confused: also I can see the utility of a knife for other tasks as well. Piece will stay in my car in the parking lot. I love my job at Best Buy. :tu
hammondc
12-04-2010, 08:00 AM
Got a question for you guys.
My work has had some threats come in and while in my contract it says I cant have weapons im thinking of conceal carrying anyways. Its just one of those things that irks me a little wondering if any of you have been in the same situation.
Sub note: I do have my CCW license.
Tough call man. You need to weigh out if it is worth it for you. Does your store have the proper signage displayed forbidding concealed weapons in the store? If so, I would not carry as it opens you up to legal action is something goes down. If they do not have proper signage, you can still be fired.
I know a situation went down recently at pizza hut or something where a delivery guy gunned down someone trying to rob him and take his car. He got fired and then sued the pizza company on some basis that the company put him in dangerous situations, but would not allow him to protect himself
*I have my CHL as well.
Wolfgang
12-04-2010, 08:02 AM
Does your store have the proper signage displayed forbidding concealed weapons in the store?
None whatsoever. But is in the employee contract.
hammondc
12-04-2010, 08:06 AM
None whatsoever. But is in the employee contract.
It usually is in the employee contract. I have carried on my job, BUT I am in territory sales and never report to the office (it is 1200 miles away). There is no explicit language in the paperwork that says I cannot carry in the car, but from my understanding, the car is an extension of the building- and concealed carry is forbidden in the building.
Eleven
12-04-2010, 09:02 AM
Bill Goodman's Gun and Knife Show is in Dayton next weekend and it just so happens that my son is playing hockey in the same complex...
God help my bank account!
cigars_n_scotch
12-09-2010, 06:40 PM
Finally! I've submitted all of my paperwork for my firearms card and handgun license at the beginning of the month and got fingerprinted this week and handed that in as well. Now it's just the wait period! :( NJ is a horrible state to live in for gun ownership. Law says 30 days (from what I've read on the net) but we'll see how long they drag this on.
hammondc
12-10-2010, 07:53 AM
Congrats on that. Texas is down to about 21 days from application to plastic in hand if you do electronic prints and online app.
BloodSpite
12-10-2010, 09:27 AM
Got a question for you guys.
My work has had some threats come in and while in my contract it says I cant have weapons im thinking of conceal carrying anyways. Its just one of those things that irks me a little wondering if any of you have been in the same situation.
Sub note: I do have my CCW license.
Also consider a tazer, or even mace. Lots of options out there nowadays and a lot of companies don't specifically have regulations against them.
Jenady
12-10-2010, 11:18 AM
Here is my collection.
http://jenady.smugmug.com/Other/Handguns/Pistols-08-06/86832155_wLS9F-M.jpg
elderboy02
12-10-2010, 11:23 AM
Very nice! :gn Details on the 1911's please.
LostAbbott
12-10-2010, 11:42 AM
Very nice! :gn Details on the 1911's please.
the 1911's are both Kimbers. one looks to be the ultra carry two(http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/ultracarry/)
and I would venture a guess that the other is the..
Custom II
http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/custom/royal_II/
fantastic guns, I really want a Super carry but need to find one to shoot first...
Jenady
12-10-2010, 02:04 PM
the 1911's are both Kimbers. one looks to be the ultra carry two(http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/ultracarry/)
and I would venture a guess that the other is the..
Custom II
http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/custom/royal_II/
fantastic guns, I really want a Super carry but need to find one to shoot first...
Correct on both counts. Good eye.
bonjing
12-14-2010, 01:14 PM
:D
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/IMG_0522.jpg
replicant_argent
12-15-2010, 07:03 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n124/replicant_argent/coexist.jpg
It made me laugh this morning.
the 1911's are both Kimbers. one looks to be the ultra carry two(http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/ultracarry/)
and I would venture a guess that the other is the..
Custom II
http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/custom/royal_II/
fantastic guns, I really want a Super carry but need to find one to shoot first...
The one you said was a Custom looks more like a Target model since it has adjustable sights. Also, it has wood grips which the Custom doesn't come with.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n124/replicant_argent/coexist.jpg
It made me laugh this morning.
:r:tu
floydpink
12-15-2010, 09:10 AM
Finally! I've submitted all of my paperwork for my firearms card and handgun license at the beginning of the month and got fingerprinted this week and handed that in as well. Now it's just the wait period! :( NJ is a horrible state to live in for gun ownership. Law says 30 days (from what I've read on the net) but we'll see how long they drag this on.
Wow, they must have lightened up since I lived in NJ.
It used to be nearly impossible unless you could prove you carried a large amount of cash.
That was what amazedme when I moved to Florida, how easy it was.
The 90 plus day wait I encountered years ago for my ccl has been reduced to under 2 weeks I am told due to walk in stations for biometrics.
floydpink
12-15-2010, 09:14 AM
Got a question for you guys.
My work has had some threats come in and while in my contract it says I cant have weapons im thinking of conceal carrying anyways. Its just one of those things that irks me a little wondering if any of you have been in the same situation.
Sub note: I do have my CCW license.
Disney is in a lawsuit and the plaintiff is backed by the NRA challenging Disney's firing of him for carrying in his car. The lawsuit states such rules violate the 2nd ammendment once the guy leaves work.
How they found out, I don't know, but am awaiting the outcome.
SNKBYT
12-15-2010, 09:22 AM
Disney is in a lawsuit and the plaintiff is backed by the NRA challenging Disney's firing of him for carrying in his car. The lawsuit states such rules violate the 2nd ammendment once the guy leaves work.
How they found out, I don't know, but am awaiting the outcome.
I use to carry mine in my car to & from work......as long as its locked up in your car (car safe) and you "don't ask don't tell" who is it going to hurt
its better to have a gun and never need it than to need a gun and never have it
I use to carry mine in my car to & from work......as long as its locked up in your car (car safe) and you "don't ask don't tell" who is it going to hurt
its better to have a gun and never need it than to need a gun and never have it
Judged by 12 rather than carried by 6...
SNKBYT
12-15-2010, 12:19 PM
Judged by 12 rather than carried by 6...
that too
replicant_argent
12-15-2010, 03:13 PM
this vid gave me a good feeling today about self reliance and the American Spirit.
Yamamoto was right when he said he was afraid of a rifle behind every blade of grass with guys like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlMz2sCDCA4&features=player_embedded
looking for know
12-20-2010, 01:28 PM
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/639/img0029p.jpg
Added this to the family.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2315/img0031ut.jpg
Moss, Mav. 88, & Browning Super
cigars_n_scotch
12-20-2010, 04:56 PM
Oh yeah, woohoo! Got my firearms license and handgun purchase card today and am damn excited!!! I am also surprised at the speed at which the state of NJ worked to get this done, bravo! I was seriously expecting it to be drawn out but it literally took about 2 weeks.
Next week when I have off for the Xmas holiday I am taking a ride to the sport shop to browse and see if they have an Springfield Armory XD-9 that I can try out on their indoor range.
theonlybear4CORT
12-21-2010, 07:51 AM
:D
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/IMG_0522.jpg
Did you go the single shot route? Pm me the info I have been I'm love with that gun for a while.
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Partagaspete
12-26-2010, 09:00 AM
I think I narrowed my choces down to theS&W M&Pc .40 or the comprable version of the Glock line.
elderboy02
12-26-2010, 09:05 AM
I think I narrowed my choces down to theS&W M&Pc .40 or the comprable version of the Glock line.
Both are great choices :tu :gn
Trumpet
12-26-2010, 10:11 AM
Both are great choices :tu :gn
If you can, try before you buy. While I have a G19 and love it and shoot it well, I'm a 1911 guy so it always seems "lacking". I rented a M&P once and fell in love. It's on my "to get" list...along with a CZ Kadet, SCAR, another BCM...
justonemorestick
12-26-2010, 01:39 PM
go with the m&p I have two of em. My carry 9c is easily concealed and when the initial 13 rounds run out I can slap in my 17 or 28 rounder.
Partagaspete
12-27-2010, 06:14 AM
If you can, try before you buy. While I have a G19 and love it and shoot it well, I'm a 1911 guy so it always seems "lacking". I rented a M&P once and fell in love. It's on my "to get" list...along with a CZ Kadet, SCAR, another BCM...
Yes I plan to go to a shop near here and will try the different guns, thanks for the advice
go with the m&p I have two of em. My carry 9c is easily concealed and when the initial 13 rounds run out I can slap in my 17 or 28 rounder.
I have considered both the 9 mil and the 1911 but feel the 1911 is too big and too much kick (for wife) with les rounds. As for the 9 i am still considering it for the extra rounds but how much "stoping" power am I giving up? the .40 amd the 9 are the same size as far as concealment goes.
Trumpet
12-27-2010, 06:40 AM
Yes I plan to go to a shop near here and will try the different guns, thanks for the advice
I have considered both the 9 mil and the 1911 but feel the 1911 is too big and too much kick (for wife) with les rounds. As for the 9 i am still considering it for the extra rounds but how much "stoping" power am I giving up? the .40 amd the 9 are the same size as far as concealment goes.
I wouldn't worry too much about "stopping power". With today's modern ammo technology, a 9mm will do just fine.
Barcode
12-27-2010, 07:22 AM
:D
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/IMG_0522.jpg
Is it just me or is the bullet in the mag backwards
Trumpet
12-27-2010, 07:41 AM
Is it just me or is the bullet in the mag backwards
Long running HK joke. Never gets old.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/HKbulletsBackwards.jpg
"No Compromise" :hy
justonemorestick
12-27-2010, 07:53 AM
:D
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/IMG_0522.jpg
Your doing it wrong or dies it work that way if it is held 90* from vertical?
gettysburgfreak
12-27-2010, 10:13 AM
does anyone know what you have to do to sell a gun and transfer it to the new owner? I want to sell my current AR and get myself a version similar to the one I use at work but would have to sell my present AR to fund it.
looking for know
12-27-2010, 10:38 AM
does anyone know what you have to do to sell a gun and transfer it to the new owner? I want to sell my current AR and get myself a version similar to the one I use at work but would have to sell my present AR to fund it.
Depends on the laws of the state. Most states allow for ftf (face to face) transfers between individuals of the state. Out of state requires a transfer through an FFL.
Gunbroker is easy to use for selling.
You might also take it to the EE (equipment exchange) on ar15.com
If it were me (Wa. St.), I would try to sell in state. Check state ID, require a concealed weapons permit on the part of the buyer (signifies a successful background check), and submit a sales record form with the state agency in Olympia.
bonjing
12-27-2010, 12:53 PM
Long running HK joke. Never gets old.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97/Trumpet1/HKbulletsBackwards.jpg
"No Compromise" :hy
:r I'm glad someone got the joke :r
I was going to copy the catalog, but was too lazy
theonlybear4CORT
12-27-2010, 05:44 PM
Got a bcm gunfighter charging handle large and a magpul fde grip for Christmas. Now next purchases will be buis and ammo before February.
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa450/Dickhurts707/00178459.jpg
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Wolfgang
12-27-2010, 10:27 PM
http://chzhistoriclols.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/funny-pictures-history-sexual-arousal.jpg
gettysburgfreak
12-28-2010, 01:19 AM
Depends on the laws of the state. Most states allow for ftf (face to face) transfers between individuals of the state. Out of state requires a transfer through an FFL.
Gunbroker is easy to use for selling.
You might also take it to the EE (equipment exchange) on ar15.com
If it were me (Wa. St.), I would try to sell in state. Check state ID, require a concealed weapons permit on the part of the buyer (signifies a successful background check), and submit a sales record form with the state agency in Olympia.
Thanks for the tip. I am also located in Washington State so that info pertains to me.
WyGuy
12-29-2010, 12:23 PM
Any Glock guys in here?
Ran into a little problem today. Went to the range today and fired around 200 rounds, everything working perfectly. Came back home and cleaned it, just field stripped it, resembled it only to find the trigger won't reset. Went ahead and detail stripped it and after reassembling it the trigger reset for the first two dry fires, then went back to not resetting. I did find that if I pull/hold the trigger back while re-cocking that the trigger will reset. Any ideas?
Wolfgang
12-29-2010, 01:14 PM
Is you glock factory or have you put in aftermarket stuff? When you detail stripped it did you remove and clean the firing pin assembly?
Most common things would be connector issues or crap is accumulating in the striker channel.
Ranger_B
12-29-2010, 04:01 PM
Is you glock factory or have you put in aftermarket stuff? When you detail stripped it did you remove and clean the firing pin assembly?
Most common things would be connector issues or crap is accumulating in the striker channel.
:tpd:
WyGuy
12-29-2010, 04:46 PM
Is you glock factory or have you put in aftermarket stuff? When you detail stripped it did you remove and clean the firing pin assembly?
Most common things would be connector issues or crap is accumulating in the striker channel.
Everything is stock and I did clean everything during that detail stripping. However, after another detail strip everything is back to normal. Didn't see anything out of the ordinary...still scratching my head on what it could have been.
cigars_n_scotch
12-29-2010, 08:43 PM
Well since this is the "first firearm thread" I will post up my very first personal firearm. I grew up around firearms from my father and grandfather, hunted a bit, and shot many different kinds of firearms and calibers. I have not however owned a firearm before myself, they were always my fathers. I wanted my own pistol for recreational target practice and home defense. I read quite a bit about the SA line of handguns and also saw a lot of positive feedback on this line as a first handgun, which played a part in my choice. It's a popular handgun. I also wanted my wife to be able to shoot it and be comfortable. She is from a family who was never involved with firearms, hunting, etc. and I recently got her introduced to it by taking her skeet shooting with my dad and I. And we just found out she is pregnant so now I have an addition to our family to protect. :tu
It was time...time to get my own. And here it is..
Springfield Armory XD9 Compact (along with a xmas present that I received from my parents, the Boker AK-74 knife).
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t39/newmanium/Firearms/IMG_5706.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t39/newmanium/Firearms/IMG_5704.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t39/newmanium/Firearms/IMG_5709.jpg
I put about 80 rounds through her today to begin the break-in process, I have a lot to go but it's a start. It was comfortable to shoot and I imagine will get more comfortable as I shoot it more. Stopped at my local outdoorsmen shop and picked up "eyes and ears" as well as a cleaning kit and a gun vault (for in-home safety as well as to calm my wife's nerves).
I am very happy with my purchase thus far. Looking forward to putting more rounds through her as well as my next purchase. (looking for a 12 gauge to skeet shoot with my pops and also maybe hunt, along with getting an AR).
looking for know
12-29-2010, 08:52 PM
Well since this is the "first firearm thread" I will post up my very first personal firearm.
I thought that meant the first firearm thread on the site. :o
Ranger_B
12-29-2010, 08:59 PM
Justin I have an XD9 full size that I am putting through its paces with my better half lately. She loves it. I am still adjusting being a big 1911 guy as well as having a ton of Glock time I am really liking it. Great choice I like that 2 tone you have.
Wolfgang
12-29-2010, 09:06 PM
Everything is stock and I did clean everything during that detail stripping. However, after another detail strip everything is back to normal. Didn't see anything out of the ordinary...still scratching my head on what it could have been.
To be on the safe side if this is a carry gun I would run 100 rounds through it just to ensure the gremlins dont come back. :tu
cigars_n_scotch
12-29-2010, 09:33 PM
I thought that meant the first firearm thread on the site. :o
po-tatoe, pot-ah-toe!
Glad to hear you like yours Frank! I am certainly looking forward to putting more rounds through my XD. 1911's intrigue me, I'd like to shoot one. Perhaps I will at the range one day....
theonlybear4CORT
12-31-2010, 02:05 PM
Nice xd cigars&scotch. The xd looks like a service not a compact but I could be mistaken as I started the celebrating a little early. Have you looked at trijicon night sights? A good place to order accessories for the xd is www.pistolgear.com
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theoneandonly
12-31-2010, 05:26 PM
Any Glock guys in here?
Ran into a little problem today. Went to the range today and fired around 200 rounds, everything working perfectly. Came back home and cleaned it, just field stripped it, resembled it only to find the trigger won't reset. Went ahead and detail stripped it and after reassembling it the trigger reset for the first two dry fires, then went back to not resetting. I did find that if I pull/hold the trigger back while re-cocking that the trigger will reset. Any ideas?
Thats why I don't like Glocks. They are great single action only guns.:td
bonjing
01-04-2011, 01:32 PM
Rivals:
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/IMG_0526.jpg
bonjing
01-04-2011, 01:58 PM
Any one know about Marlin model 60's? I have a chance to pick one up for about $85, worth the price? I haven't had a chance to look at it, all I know is that it's an older model maybe from the mid 80's, with a cheapo scope on it.
I'm thinking for $85 wth for a cheap plinker, pending the condition it's in.
replicant_argent
01-04-2011, 02:21 PM
Thats why I don't like Glocks. They are great single action only guns.:td
I am guessing it is operator error on this one, and something went back together in an "unapproved" manner. That can happen with any firearm.
As a guy that has put over 6 or 7000 rounds through a Glock, I can speak with a small bit of experience with them. Something is probably fouled badly, reassembled "not quite right," or something of the type.
BamBam
01-04-2011, 09:42 PM
Any one know about Marlin model 60's? I have a chance to pick one up for about $85, worth the price? I haven't had a chance to look at it, all I know is that it's an older model maybe from the mid 80's, with a cheapo scope on it.
I'm thinking for $85 wth for a cheap plinker, pending the condition it's in.
Personally I'd go for a Ruger 10/22 at a pawn shop. I have two and they are as modifiable as an AR-15. I love tinkering with mine. That and I like the detachable magazine versus the tube fed which I believe the Marlin model 60 to be.
Much easier to clean also IMO. :2
WyGuy
01-04-2011, 10:16 PM
I am guessing it is operator error on this one, and something went back together in an "unapproved" manner. That can happen with any firearm.
As a guy that has put over 6 or 7000 rounds through a Glock, I can speak with a small bit of experience with them. Something is probably fouled badly, reassembled "not quite right," or something of the type.
You're probably right. Just not sure what I could have done wrong putting it back together. I did do a detail strip of the gun before that range session so everything was clean as possible, with everything functioning 100% after that and the 200 rounds at the range. Just can't figure out why the problem only became apparent after field stripping it...not much to screw up there.
looking for know
01-12-2011, 08:50 PM
Got a great deal on this lower.
Before...
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/669/img0001yh.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9095/img0005bg.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1769/img0006mr.jpg
After...
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1646/img0012woo.jpg
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/2616/img0022sv.jpg
Cigarcop
01-19-2011, 05:37 PM
Lets see if I can get this thread going!!
Just built and fresh off the UPS truck..
Beanland build.243, Surgeon 591 Action, Jewell Trigger, Spiral fluted Rock 5r Barrel 1-7.5 throated for 108 Bergers, sitting in a hard to find Sentinel Stock.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1df38b3127ccefc73cf9b71fc00000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1df38b3127ccefc721cc0111a00000030O00AcNGLNu0bNW IPbz4U/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/
Ranger_B
01-19-2011, 05:48 PM
She sure is pretty. Whats her name? I sure as hell would take her to the dance. Great looking tool there. 2 or 4 legged critters?
Cigarcop
01-19-2011, 06:21 PM
I could hunt with it but its for tactical matches.
Ranger_B
01-19-2011, 06:29 PM
Thats one heck of a rifle to start the thread back up with. What are you going to do when the thread goes cold for over a week?
Cigarcop
01-19-2011, 06:50 PM
Just dig thru some pages...this ain't my first trip to the rodeo!
BamBam
01-19-2011, 09:04 PM
What type of rings do you have on there?
Cigarcop
01-20-2011, 08:01 AM
What type of rings do you have on there?
Nightforce Ultra Light 30mm
bonjing
01-26-2011, 11:17 AM
I want a Kel-Tec KSG, that thing is pretty cool! ! !
awsmith4
01-26-2011, 11:33 AM
I want a Kel-Tec KSG, that thing is pretty cool! ! !
What a cool little gun! I'm going to keep my eye on that one
bonjing
01-26-2011, 11:39 AM
got a chance to play with one at SHOT. Not a bad design, seemed well built for Kel-Tec, will find out more after some people shoot the dang thing. Now I'm pretty anti-kel-tec, but it seemed like a really cool toy and if it works well, one will be added to the collection.
awsmith4
01-26-2011, 11:41 AM
got a chance to play with one at SHOT. Not a bad design, seemed well built for Kel-Tec, will find out more after some people shoot the dang thing. Now I'm pretty anti-kel-tec, but it seemed like a really cool toy and if it works well, one will be added to the collection.
How do you switch between tubes?
bonjing
01-26-2011, 11:59 AM
If i understand/remember it correctly:
there is a 3 way switch located in the loading port.
The switch goes, left, right and center.
You switch the switch from left to right depending on the tube you want to use. The center position acts as a loading/unloading postion, once there is a round in the chamber by putting the switch in the center position you can safely remove a live round.
I hope that made sense.
awsmith4
01-26-2011, 01:07 PM
If i understand/remember it correctly:
there is a 3 way switch located in the loading port.
The switch goes, left, right and center.
You switch the switch from left to right depending on the tube you want to use. The center position acts as a loading/unloading postion, once there is a round in the chamber by putting the switch in the center position you can safely remove a live round.
I hope that made sense.
It made perfect sense, thx :tu
Tikihut27
01-26-2011, 09:56 PM
Thought I'd post my latest AR build since I saw one just like it on the new show "Sons of Guns" tonight. I've had the Cobray 37mm launcher since the early '90s but never had the right combination of barrels and upper receivers to permanently assemble it before.
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm386/gsmilligan/M203A2Clone.jpg
Ranger_B
01-26-2011, 11:02 PM
got a chance to play with one at SHOT. Not a bad design, seemed well built for Kel-Tec, will find out more after some people shoot the dang thing. Now I'm pretty anti-kel-tec, but it seemed like a really cool toy and if it works well, one will be added to the collection.
I heard there was an issue that the trigger. Something like you could not pump the action until the trigger was released. If you did you had a dead trigger. Just wondering if you heard or saw this? The idea looks great. Nice short length and from kel-tec no less.
bonjing
01-27-2011, 03:13 AM
Not quite sure, I did not notice it or was looking for that. I know my friend was able to double/triple tap with the shotgun without issue and he's pretty dang fast. I think he timed himself unloading an unmoded 870 (7rds) in under 3 seconds.
I heard there was an issue that the trigger. Something like you could not pump the action until the trigger was released. If you did you had a dead trigger. Just wondering if you heard or saw this? The idea looks great. Nice short length and from kel-tec no less.
Barcode
01-27-2011, 03:23 AM
Looks like it in the 800.00 price range
http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg
replicant_argent
01-27-2011, 06:49 AM
I think Kel-Tecs design and reliability have increased exponentially in the past few years.
I think the KSG looks outstanding. I was watching a video where one was test fired, and the shooter was cycling the action and one of the expended hulls was trapped in the rear of the bullpup because his jacket seemed to ride up against it and it kept the slide from jacking all the way to the rearward position. This might concern me slightly, or could simply be a training point if used as a defensive primary. In either case, I dig the bullpup design, and 14+1??? Ridiculous!!!!
elderboy02
01-27-2011, 07:06 AM
Thought I'd post my latest AR build since I saw one just like it on the new show "Sons of Guns" tonight. I've had the Cobray 37mm launcher since the early '90s but never had the right combination of barrels and upper receivers to permanently assemble it before.
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm386/gsmilligan/M203A2Clone.jpg
^ Very nice! :tu :gn
thebayratt
01-27-2011, 03:13 PM
Here is my recent addition to my collection
When I got it:
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz130/thebayratt/2-2.jpg
After a few mods:
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz130/thebayratt/4-3.jpg
http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz130/thebayratt/3-2.jpg
0002S
01-29-2011, 08:33 PM
New SBR set up
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/SBR/SBR.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/SBR/SBRSide3.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/SBR/SBRSide1.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/SBR/SBRFront.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/SBR/SBRRear.jpg
replicant_argent
01-29-2011, 08:37 PM
The selector switch made me laugh.
Barcode
01-29-2011, 11:56 PM
Yea I liked the engraving too!
Ranger_B
01-30-2011, 12:49 PM
That sure is pretty.
Eleven
01-30-2011, 06:44 PM
Shawn it's almost TOO good looking! That thing is about perfect.
Bruzee
01-31-2011, 06:38 PM
Here is my most recent firearm purchase. It is the Beretta PX4 Storm, subcompact, 40 S&W. I carry this guy daily, concealed. It is light weight and compact. Extremely accurate too. The kicker is that the magazines from the full size model are compatible with this little guy. Which is great, since that is what I carry @ work. I threw my Palio in the pics for size comparison. The last pic is the Storm in my Galco ankle holster.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/dbruzee/1296523037.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/dbruzee/1296523040.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee250/dbruzee/1296523042.jpg
Ranger_B
01-31-2011, 09:00 PM
Nice looking storm! I am thinking it is getting time to build another AR. This one will be my first ground up build. I am looking forward to it. I welcome any advice from those of you out there who have done this. Not to jack the thread here but if anyone has some timesaver tips or things they wish they knew in advance i would gladly welcome a PM.
WyGuy
02-01-2011, 08:44 AM
Finally received my TT Gunleather IWB holster that I ordered at the end of July. Well, it seems to have been worth the wait!
Crappy iphone pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/mike2212/TTholster.jpg
Eleven
02-01-2011, 08:59 AM
Shawn it's almost TOO good looking! That thing is about perfect.
Shawn bring those pictures back! I wanted to show my wife what her hard earned money was going to buy!
bonjing
02-01-2011, 10:29 PM
Are you doing a complete build upper and lower receiver or just lower?
Best thing I did was copy the instructions from arfcom, laid out all the parts and took my time. I started out just using the channel lock pliers method, now I have most of the right punches and tools. The arfcom tutorial will let you know what you need and how to do it all.
Worst thing I did was trying to put the stupid thing together after a 16hr shift! Those stupid retaining pins go flying all over the place, so wear your eye protection!
Nice looking storm! I am thinking it is getting time to build another AR. This one will be my first ground up build. I am looking forward to it. I welcome any advice from those of you out there who have done this. Not to jack the thread here but if anyone has some timesaver tips or things they wish they knew in advance i would gladly welcome a PM.
Ranger_B
02-01-2011, 10:45 PM
LOL. Yeah I plan on upper and lower build. I would rather just buy the parts I want and then put it all together as apposed to what I have done in the past and start with parts I dont want and remove and replace.
bonjing
02-01-2011, 11:14 PM
I'll pm you the build link if you need it, not sure if it would be ok to post it here.
Good luck with the build !
gettysburgfreak
02-02-2011, 12:18 AM
do any of you guys have a gun from Spikes tactical? I have some money coming back from taxes and was thinking about getting a customized AR. Ive heard good things about them, and was wondering if any of you had experience with them.
If building an AR, I know http://www.model1sales.com has fantastic options and pricing. I've heard good things from guys who have bought from them as far as quality, but I have no first hand experience. The only thing they don't sell is the lowers. They do sell assembled uppers and lower parts kits combo, or just the upper (assembled or not).
Ranger_B
02-02-2011, 09:54 AM
Look back through this thread there are a few nice looking spikes. do any of you guys have a gun from Spikes tactical? I have some money coming back from taxes and was thinking about getting a customized AR. Ive heard good things about them, and was wondering if any of you had experience with them.
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safariguy
02-06-2011, 06:45 AM
After talking about it for a few years, I finally signed my wife up for the "Ladies Pistol" course at the Gunsite Academy in Arizona. I took a rifle class there a few years ago and it was worth every penny. I am going to buy her a S&W M&P 9 compact for the course. I highly recomend Gunsite to everyone. I've nothing bad to say about Front Site or any of the others; but Gunsite is the original started by Jeff Cooper. It is run in a very professional, yet friendly and low stress way. I was expecting it to be more like boot camp or the police academy but it was not at all. Incidently, I got to see the new Ruger Gunsite scout rifle last week at Ruger's booth at the SCI convention. It is the same concept as the Steyr Scout for about $1000 cheaper than the Steyr.
TBone
02-06-2011, 07:59 AM
http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv255/afmca/th_DSC00674.jpg (http://s689.photobucket.com/albums/vv255/afmca/?action=view¤t=DSC00674.jpg)
Sweet Site glad I stumbled upon it...I have a Taurus PT 145 Millenium Pro, a Kurz .380/9mm Backup, and a Smith and Wesson 1911.
gettysburgfreak
02-07-2011, 06:06 AM
ordered a custom Spikes Tactical complete M4 on thursday. Can't wait to get it and will post pics when I get it.
Eleven
02-09-2011, 03:12 PM
Just got this one home. DPMS AP4, rails and an angled foregrip are coming next week:
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/182457_1543484750082_1323882237_31166835_5094860_n .jpg
safariguy
02-09-2011, 03:52 PM
If building an AR, I know http://www.model1sales.com has fantastic options and pricing. I've heard good things from guys who have bought from them as far as quality, but I have no first hand experience. The only thing they don't sell is the lowers. They do sell assembled uppers and lower parts kits combo, or just the upper (assembled or not).
So here is a stupid question: Why do striped lowers have such a cost range? I realize that you generally get what you pay for in quality, but how can the same thing cost anywhere from $150 to $650? Are the cheap ones made out of compressed rust and the pricey ones made of titanium?
WyGuy
02-09-2011, 05:37 PM
ordered a custom Spikes Tactical complete M4 on thursday. Can't wait to get it and will post pics when I get it.
Can't wait to the see the pictures. I plan on picking one up sometime this summer hopefully.
SNKBYT
02-10-2011, 05:14 AM
classic
The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either... The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.
1. Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
2. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
3. When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away.
4. A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him 'Why do you carry a 45?' The Ranger responded, 'Because they don't make a 46.'
5. The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady commented on his wearing his sidearm 'Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?' 'No Ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my shotgun.'
6. Beware the man who only carries one gun. HE PROBABLY KNOWS HOW TO USE IT!!!
But wait, there's more!
I was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house. I said I did. She said 'Well I certainly hope it isn't loaded!' To which I said, of course it is loaded, it can't work without bullets!' She then asked, 'Are you that afraid of someone evil coming into your house?' My reply was, “No not at all. I am not afraid of the house catching fire either, but I have fire extinguishers around, and they are all loaded too”.
HAVE A NICE DAY
replicant_argent
02-10-2011, 06:40 AM
So here is a stupid question: Why do striped lowers have such a cost range? I realize that you generally get what you pay for in quality, but how can the same thing cost anywhere from $150 to $650? Are the cheap ones made out of compressed rust and the pricey ones made of titanium?
That's the thing. Are the tolerances of the cheaper lowers that far from the tolerances of the better ones?
I would love to build an AR, and while I am a cheap bastard, I would like to be able to build something of fairly high quality without paying retail.
I know a few of you guys could probably point us to links. (Looks at J0ey....)
gettysburgfreak
02-10-2011, 06:21 PM
That's the thing. Are the tolerances of the cheaper lowers that far from the tolerances of the better ones?
I would love to build an AR, and while I am a cheap bastard, I would like to be able to build something of fairly high quality without paying retail.
I know a few of you guys could probably point us to links. (Looks at J0ey....)
Look at companies such as Spikes Tactical, BCM, Daniel Defense
Bruins Fan
02-11-2011, 08:00 AM
Just got this heads up.
http://www.federalpremium.com/pdf/45_Auto_warning.pdf
hscmit
02-11-2011, 08:17 AM
good looking out
Eleven
02-11-2011, 09:25 AM
good looking out
Amen. Keep safe!
secretsquirrel
02-11-2011, 03:56 PM
I got a springfield armory 1911 A1 mil spec at lunch.
Eleven
02-12-2011, 12:27 PM
I got a springfield armory 1911 A1 mil spec at lunch.
Did it come with an appetizer and dessert?
Eleven
02-14-2011, 07:22 PM
First mod of my new AP4. Rails, Magpul AFG, ERGO grip, Red-Dot Sight:
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/249/ap4i.jpg
cigars_n_scotch
02-15-2011, 04:36 PM
First mod of my new AP4. Rails, Magpul AFG, ERGO grip, Red-Dot Sight:
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/249/ap4i.jpg
Nice rifle! May I ask what a rig like that costs as is?
Eleven
02-15-2011, 08:52 PM
Nice rifle! May I ask what a rig like that costs as is?
The rifle was $949, it came with 2 magazines, shoulder sling, cleaning kit and hardshell case. I added the rails, foregrip, ERGO handgrip, red-dot scope, 2 extra magazines and 200 rounds of ammo for an additional $400 or so.
gravelman
02-15-2011, 09:21 PM
Hey guys, I've been wanting a BUG for quite some time, and had been thinking about the Ruger LCP, but now the LC9 is out and I really like that, but have yet to handle it. Has anyone seen this gun in person or had the opportunity of firing one?
Ratters
02-15-2011, 09:49 PM
Nice rifle! May I ask what a rig like that costs as is?
You could buy a stripped lower from a shop for about a hundred bucks, then buy a parts kit from www.del-ton.com or the like for about six hundred bucks with the rail and chrome lined barrel and put it together yourself. You just have to assemble the lower, it's really not hard. It's a little bit of work but you can save some money.
Eleven
02-15-2011, 10:09 PM
You could buy a stripped lower from a shop for about a hundred bucks, then buy a parts kit from www.del-ton.com or the like for about six hundred bucks with the rail and chrome lined barrel and put it together yourself. You just have to assemble the lower, it's really not hard. It's a little bit of work but you can save some money.
I seriously considered that. But in the end I did not want to build my first AR. I am already collecting parts from upgrading this. So when the time comes, I will build the second one.
looking for know
02-15-2011, 10:12 PM
Yea, I figure about $450 for a complete barreled upper, $100 for a stripped lower, $50 for a LPK, and then between $20 and $150 for a stock, depending on brand name and what you want. Total I usually ended up spending over the past 5-6 builds was between $650 and $750. Optics and magazines not included. It always depends on if I want to go inexpensive or if I want something brand name or specifically designed for a purpose.
JaKaacH
02-23-2011, 09:22 AM
Cool air rifle video...
http://www.network54.com/Forum/451309/thread/1296928404/This+is+just+to+cool+not+to+spread+around
Yea, I figure about $450 for a complete barreled upper, $100 for a stripped lower, $50 for a LPK, and then between $20 and $150 for a stock, depending on brand name and what you want. Total I usually ended up spending over the past 5-6 builds was between $650 and $750. Optics and magazines not included. It always depends on if I want to go inexpensive or if I want something brand name or specifically designed for a purpose.
check out http://model1sales.com
They sell kits complete, minus the stripped lower. So it includes an assembled upper (properly headspaced), lower parts kit, stock, and everything else. You just have to put the parts kit together in the lower and connect the two halves. Standard 20 inch kits are $535 (plus $100 for the stripped lower purchased separately).
You can even customize every detail including barrel twist, front/rear sights, free float tube, you name it.
gettysburgfreak
02-23-2011, 12:14 PM
Got the call that my new AR from Spikes has arrived. Will post pictures when I get back to Washington and pick it up on Saturday.
hscmit
02-23-2011, 12:29 PM
check out http://model1sales.com
They sell kits complete, minus the stripped lower. So it includes an assembled upper (properly headspaced), lower parts kit, stock, and everything else. You just have to put the parts kit together in the lower and connect the two halves. Standard 20 inch kits are $535 (plus $100 for the stripped lower purchased separately).
You can even customize every detail including barrel twist, front/rear sights, free float tube, you name it.
great site
not looking at a build right now, but it has been bookmarked for the future.
safariguy
02-23-2011, 01:11 PM
check out http://model1sales.com
They sell kits complete, minus the stripped lower. So it includes an assembled upper (properly headspaced), lower parts kit, stock, and everything else. You just have to put the parts kit together in the lower and connect the two halves. Standard 20 inch kits are $535 (plus $100 for the stripped lower purchased separately).
You can even customize every detail including barrel twist, front/rear sights, free float tube, you name it.
You have had success with these guys, Mike?
Tikihut27
02-23-2011, 02:22 PM
Building AR's is fine and dandy. I've got 10 or so under my belt. They don't call 'em Lego guns for nothing.
But for real fun, build AK's.
Here's an Egyptian build I just finished this week:
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm386/gsmilligan/EgyptianAK-47_Right.jpg
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm386/gsmilligan/EgyptianAK-47_Left.jpg
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm386/gsmilligan/EgyptianAK-47_Detail.jpg
hscmit
02-23-2011, 02:23 PM
pretty sweet
kickerb
02-23-2011, 04:56 PM
The Sig Sauer P238, my CCW.
http://i54.tinypic.com/1551am9.jpg
gravelman
02-23-2011, 05:29 PM
Tiki, that's a great looking rifle...I'm hoping you've gotten the opportunity to shoot it. Hows it shoot?
Cigarcop
02-23-2011, 06:55 PM
Just came yesterday from my Smith, 338LM finished at 21" build on a Surgeon 1581XL action, Rock 9.4 twist, Sentinel Stock, Jewell Trigger, Titan Suppressor...I need some warmer days now!!
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_0273.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_0282.jpg
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_0275.jpg
Tikihut27
02-23-2011, 09:00 PM
Tiki, that's a great looking rifle...I'm hoping you've gotten the opportunity to shoot it. Hows it shoot?
Thanks, I'll shoot it once the weather warms up a bit. Upstate NY...
Just came yesterday from my Smith, 338LM finished at 21" build on a Surgeon 1581XL action, Rock 9.4 twist, Sentinel Stock, Jewell Trigger, Titan Suppressor...I need some warmer days now!!
Gorgeous. Reach out & touch someone...
gravelman
02-23-2011, 09:13 PM
Understandable, I have a Romanian WASR. Took it out for the first time this spring, glad to get back outside and put some rounds through it.
Neens
02-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Just came yesterday from my Smith, 338LM finished at 21" build on a Surgeon 1581XL action, Rock 9.4 twist, Sentinel Stock, Jewell Trigger, Titan Suppressor...I need some warmer days now!!
Thats one nice looking rifle. I wouldn't mind seeing some targets once the weather gets warmer if you don't mind posting them.
hammondc
02-24-2011, 06:08 AM
Held one of these yesterday. I will buy one as soon as they are available. Kimber Solo 9mm. Shorter height and length than the Kahr PM9. Damn near the same thickness.
http://beta.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/kimber_solo.jpg
Wolfgang
02-24-2011, 11:45 AM
Held one of these yesterday. I will buy one as soon as they are available. Kimber Solo 9mm. Shorter height and length than the Kahr PM9. Damn near the same thickness.
http://beta.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/kimber_solo.jpg
Looks like a winner to me. :banger Ill wait for more info to become available. But this may put my glock out of rotation. -(P
Held one of these yesterday. I will buy one as soon as they are available. Kimber Solo 9mm. Shorter height and length than the Kahr PM9. Damn near the same thickness.
http://beta.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/kimber_solo.jpg
Never seen or heard of a Kimber Solo before. Very interesting.
You have had success with these guys, Mike?
Not personally, but I've read good things.
Ender
02-24-2011, 03:13 PM
That's pretty sweet looking.
druturn
02-24-2011, 03:15 PM
Alright fellas, I need some advice from fellow CHL holders. I am about to apply for my CHL as soon as my birthday hits and will be buying a pistol to carry concealed. I have been debating which pistol to carry for probably near a year now. I have been stuck on a 1911 since forever because I love the look, feel, slimness, and shooting abilities of it. I was recently introduced to the H&K USP .45 ACP 12 round and loved the hell out of it. I know that pistol shopping and carrying all comes down to preference, but I want to hear from folks who carry large frame and wide pistols. Is it really that much of a burden to carry a large frame pistol such as this? My father carries an XD 9mm, which from my gathering, appears to be about the same size as the USP and he seems to have no complaints about it. I am a big guy and tend to think that I can handle concealing a large frame pistol fairly easily. This issue also comes down to DA vs. SA. I know that a cocked and locked gun is safe if handled properly. I have been around and using guns since a very young age and am extremely comfortable using nearly all types of firearms. For some reason carrying a cocked and locked 1911 still just scares the bejesus out of me and I would rather carry a loaded and decocked DA USP. Anyways, any thoughts on these issues/questions fellas?
Wolfgang
02-24-2011, 03:21 PM
I rotate in and out of Glock 19, and 27. Both chunky guns but certainly not a steel frame behemoth.
I carry with one in the pipe its not an issue the double action trigger pull doesnt bother me. With all things train with what you are going to carry.
Not a whole lot on insight but its what works for me.
For some reason carrying a cocked and locked 1911 still just scares the bejesus out of me and I would rather carry a loaded and decocked DA USP. Anyways, any thoughts on these issues/questions fellas?
I am a huge 1911 fan. I carry my full size 38 oz "government" model. No matter what firearm you carry, get a good belt. Get a gun belt, or at least a two piece leather belt. They cut the pieces differently, one with and one against the grain. That way, when worn, the belt won't stretch. It will also be much more rigid and help support whatever gun you carry. "Gun belts" are almost always two piece and sometimes even have plastic inserts for even more rigidity.
As far as your concerns, do not be worried about carrying a 1911 cocked & locked. My Kimber has a fireing pin block that won't let it move until the grip safety is depressed. Then I still have to switch the thumb safety into position and pull the trigger to make it fire. It is not un-safe. That said, if you can't get over the mental hurdle, look for a different design. Many DAO type pistols have no real safety. IMO a cocked and locked 1911 is much safer.
If you haven't already shot both finalists, do so. If you have, it's really up to you. If I was going to get another pistol soon, it would be the Kimber CDP Pro-Carry. It is the 4 inch barrel with the full size grip, but it also has an aluminum alloy frame, trigicon 3-dot night sites, and an ambi thumb safety. I too am a big guy, and I can't stand my pinky hanging off of the grip of a firearm. Otherwise I'd move to the smaller "Ultra Carry" 3.5 inch barrel models.
Like cigars and our opinons of them, your advice will vary. Good luck.
MTB996
02-24-2011, 04:37 PM
^^^ Agreed.
I highly recommend a 1911. Carry it for a few days unloaded (triple check) in condition 1 and try your hardest to get the hammer to fall. I was surprised that all the abuse I put mine through, the hammer never dropped. Solved my mental concerns about carrying that way.
Now, my primary CCW is a Dan Wesson Vbob. Conceals great, comfortable (its amazing how much width matters), reliable and shoots like a dream.
Good luck with whatever you choose, shoot everything and pick your favorite.
hammondc
02-24-2011, 06:09 PM
Looks like a winner to me. :banger Ill wait for more info to become available. But this may put my glock out of rotation. -(P
Should be badass. If feels fantastic. Only complaint I have is that the grips are VERY VERY slippery. They will need to be replaced asap. No problem to me. I'd like to have some mahogany colored curly maple.
hammondc
02-24-2011, 06:10 PM
Never seen or heard of a Kimber Solo before. Very interesting.
Just introduced in January. Cannot even really get them yet. Any that the dealers have are display models and they will not sell them.
Pretty rad..
-9mm (obviously)
-made for deep conceal
-Carry melt is fantastic
Wolfgang
02-24-2011, 06:23 PM
Should be badass. If feels fantastic. Only complaint I have is that the grips are VERY VERY slippery. They will need to be replaced asap. No problem to me. I'd like to have some mahogany colored curly maple.
Who could buy a Kimber and leave it stock ;) Im sure I will end up with 10 sets of grips. Mammoth Ivory anyone :dr
replicant_argent
02-24-2011, 06:46 PM
Held one of these yesterday. I will buy one as soon as they are available. Kimber Solo 9mm. Shorter height and length than the Kahr PM9. Damn near the same thickness.
http://beta.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/kimber_solo.jpg
Looks nicer than my PM9.. I was never much one for looks, though. :) I've never seen a mirror that wasn't ugly.
jdawg
02-24-2011, 06:47 PM
That Kimber looks sweet!
Pertaining to Drew's question about concealed carry, I am really jealous of you guys that live in a state that has concealed carry. Unfortunately for me, I am in one of the last two remaining states where concealed carry is still not allowed. Sucks!
SNKBYT
02-25-2011, 06:33 AM
Who could buy a Kimber and leave it stock ;) Im sure I will end up with 10 sets of grips. Mammoth Ivory anyone :dr
I went from this
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/BAF%20I/July09/DSCN0441.jpg
to this on my Kimber Raptor 4"
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/BAF%20I/July09/DSCN0475.jpg
Ender
02-25-2011, 10:32 AM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/BAF%20I/July09/DSCN0475.jpg
I saw these grips and had to order them for my Dan Wesson Valor. They should be here hopefully this weekend.
jdawg
02-25-2011, 11:05 AM
Cool looking gun, Alex!
SNKBYT
02-25-2011, 03:11 PM
I saw these grips and had to order them for my Dan Wesson Valor. They should be here hopefully this weekend.
those grips came from "esmeralda grips"............and thanks, the wife says it looks pretty:r
http://www.esmeralda.cc/
Wolfgang
02-25-2011, 05:10 PM
I went from this
Im tired of all these damn slopes! When will I get to take a break from falling??
http://alum.mit.edu/news/QuickTake/Archive/images/cliffdive-Harry-Thomas.jpg
replicant_argent
02-25-2011, 06:12 PM
Esmereldas grips rock. Wish I had a 1911 to put em on.
SNKBYT
02-27-2011, 06:29 PM
Esmereldas grips rock. Wish I had a 1911 to put em on.
Pete, she makes other grips as well.......Beretta 9mm, Ruger Single Six to name a few
SNKBYT
02-27-2011, 06:41 PM
this is my "retirement gift" from the Mrs:D (ok not this one pictured but close, all the same fixings)
Rem 700 Sniper Rifle in .308
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/700.jpg
Barcode
02-27-2011, 07:00 PM
Alright fellas, I need some advice from fellow CHL holders. I am about to apply for my CHL as soon as my birthday hits and will be buying a pistol to carry concealed. I have been debating which pistol to carry for probably near a year now. I have been stuck on a 1911 since forever because I love the look, feel, slimness, and shooting abilities of it. I was recently introduced to the H&K USP .45 ACP 12 round and loved the hell out of it. I know that pistol shopping and carrying all comes down to preference, but I want to hear from folks who carry large frame and wide pistols. Is it really that much of a burden to carry a large frame pistol such as this? My father carries an XD 9mm, which from my gathering, appears to be about the same size as the USP and he seems to have no complaints about it. I am a big guy and tend to think that I can handle concealing a large frame pistol fairly easily. This issue also comes down to DA vs. SA. I know that a cocked and locked gun is safe if handled properly. I have been around and using guns since a very young age and am extremely comfortable using nearly all types of firearms. For some reason carrying a cocked and locked 1911 still just scares the bejesus out of me and I would rather carry a loaded and decocked DA USP. Anyways, any thoughts on these issues/questions fellas?
Drew,
I carry a Springfield XD 45C in a Crossbreed Supertuck just about everyday. Whatever gun you decide is right for you I would look into a Crossbreed holster, it is the most comfortable holster I have carried. :2
xlc12rf
03-03-2011, 06:37 AM
Ok gun guys, here goes.
I'll be buying my first house in a few months. I already have a 12 gauge that is kept locked up at my parent's house. I'd like to get a supplemental handgun, and will be taking the course in a month or two. Since money is always a bit tight, I'd like to make a decision on the firearm, so I can save up.
I have my eye on a Sig P239, or a Ruger LC9. I plan on getting the CCW, if the state of CT allows it, so carry size would be of slight concern.
What are your opinions on these? I'm a pretty decent shot with a rifle and shotgun, but I've yet to fire a handgun. I realize the 9mm would be cheaper for me to practice with, should that be weighted heavily?
As you can tell, I'm not much into guns. I'd just like to have the ability, should I really need it, to protect my family. FWIW, I've been plenty exposed to firearms, and used to shoot somewhat regularly when active in the Boy Scouts.
floydpink
03-03-2011, 08:36 AM
Ok gun guys, here goes.
I'll be buying my first house in a few months. I already have a 12 gauge that is kept locked up at my parent's house. I'd like to get a supplemental handgun, and will be taking the course in a month or two. Since money is always a bit tight, I'd like to make a decision on the firearm, so I can save up.
I have my eye on a Sig P239, or a Ruger LC9. I plan on getting the CCW, if the state of CT allows it, so carry size would be of slight concern.
What are your opinions on these? I'm a pretty decent shot with a rifle and shotgun, but I've yet to fire a handgun. I realize the 9mm would be cheaper for me to practice with, should that be weighted heavily?
As you can tell, I'm not much into guns. I'd just like to have the ability, should I really need it, to protect my family. FWIW, I've been plenty exposed to firearms, and used to shoot somewhat regularly when active in the Boy Scouts.
Not in my opinion.
Ease of use and ability to save your life should weigh the heaviest.
That's why I will never carry anything besides my Smith 38 snubbie.
xlc12rf
03-03-2011, 09:37 AM
The way i figure it: if I am on a limited budget. Would it be better to have more experience with the gun (9mm), or more stopping power?
The sig is available in 9mm, .357, .40S&W
The way i figure it: if I am on a limited budget. Would it be better to have more experience with the gun (9mm), or more stopping power?
The sig is available in 9mm, .357, .40S&W
My only advice there would be avoid the .357 Sig round. It is not easy to find and rather expensive.
JaKaacH
03-03-2011, 09:44 AM
The way i figure it: if I am on a limited budget. Would it be better to have more experience with the gun (9mm), or more stopping power?
The sig is available in 9mm, .357, .40S&W
See if you can find some place to try out a few different handguns. Some ranges have guns that you can rent/try. See what you can shoot most accurately.
I like all handguns but I'm not very good with revolvers. You may be just the opposite, don't buy until you know..:2
bonjing
03-03-2011, 10:14 AM
See if you can find some place to try out a few different handguns. Some ranges have guns that you can rent/try. See what you can shoot most accurately.
I like all handguns but I'm not very good with revolvers. You may be just the opposite, don't buy until you know..:2
The above! ! ! There is nothing wrong with 9mm especially with the choice of today's ammo.
gpugliese
03-03-2011, 10:48 AM
Got my first can in about a month ago, the Pac lite & Ruger a week ago, and just yesterday got a chance to shoot it.
http://gregpugliese.com/rugermark3/1.jpg
http://gregpugliese.com/rugermark3/2.jpg
Looks like I've got a new addiction. Later this summer I'll probably start papers on a 9mm or 45acp can.
I'm leaning towards 9mm due to round cost, but 9mm subsonic isn't as common as .45acp subsonic and I'd need to buy a 9mm host gun, whereas if I went .45, I'd just have to get a threaded barrel for my 1911.
I've heard of people shooting 9mm with their .45acp rated can, but I'd be curious about the noise report.
Suppressors.....sweet. :dr
gravelman
03-03-2011, 10:24 PM
Thats a great looking setup Greg. I am really diggin the rail on top too! Very cool
Bill86
03-03-2011, 10:45 PM
Nice Ruger Greg :tu
I'm going to look to get my first can on a 45 I purchase this year.
hscmit
03-04-2011, 07:34 AM
very nice 22 setup
MurphysLaw
03-04-2011, 07:45 AM
Held one of these yesterday. I will buy one as soon as they are available. Kimber Solo 9mm. Shorter height and length than the Kahr PM9. Damn near the same thickness.
Thats a great looking gun, haven't seen one around, but this might be the only thing that can give my PM9 a run for the money, I love that little gun
MurphysLaw
03-04-2011, 08:04 AM
And a little show and tell from me...
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c82/Brian32FSU/guns/DSCN2126.jpg
1943 Remington Rand M1911A1, holster is dated 1943 as well
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c82/Brian32FSU/makarov/DSCN3181.jpg
A pair of Makarov's, an Imez and Baikal
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c82/Brian32FSU/81cb619e.jpg
Rock River AR-15 with lots of goodies
Have a few others stowed away as well...
gravelman
03-04-2011, 09:00 AM
Thats a nice 1911 Brian, cool to see a matching holster with it too!
safariguy
03-04-2011, 10:12 AM
Taking the wife to the gun store today to buy her M&P 9mm for her trip to Gunsite in May. Pics tomorrow, I hope.
Good stuff guys, keep it coming.
JaKaacH
03-05-2011, 04:58 PM
OK I've posted a few comments in this thread. Time to share a picture.
My Para-Ordnance P-14.
The slide on the gun in the picture is a Les Baer, with Bo-Mar adj. sight, full length guide rod, NM bushing, Para stock barrel. The grip safety, main spring housing, safety are Ed Brown products. Can't remember what brand the hammer or Carbon Fiber trigger I used in this build.
The slide not on the gun is the original, but with a few mods too. I also installed a full length guide rod, buffer and removed the series 80 parts. The slide was also machined for the install of the Novak rear sight and dovetail front sight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/DSCN1156-1.jpg
Taking the wife to the gun store today to buy her M&P 9mm for her trip to Gunsite in May. Pics tomorrow, I hope.
Great choice on the M&P Ryan. I love mine. I have shot/used a Glock on duty for 10 years now and it has never failed me, I switched to the M&P with a little trepidation as I know my Glock, but after putting a few thousand rounds through it I have had no problems and it goes bang every time just like my Glock.
The M&P is much nicer to shoot as the angle of the grip is much better than the Glock (no trouble finding my front sight) it's a great choice for your wife.
The 1911 is sweet and I love the way they feel and shoot, I would never carry one if my life depended on it though as I have seen way to many of my co-workers 1911's go to **** at the range, I could only imagine if they did that during a gun battle, but it is a sweet gun.
gettysburgfreak
03-05-2011, 08:20 PM
ordered an EOTECH 552 today. My gun should arrive Tuesday, sight on Friday. Cant wait for this week :D
safariguy
03-06-2011, 05:59 AM
Great choice on the M&P Ryan. I love mine. I have shot/used a Glock on duty for 10 years now and it has never failed me, I switched to the M&P with a little trepidation as I know my Glock, but after putting a few thousand rounds through it I have had no problems and it goes bang every time just like my Glock.
The M&P is much nicer to shoot as the angle of the grip is much better than the Glock (no trouble finding my front sight) it's a great choice for your wife.
Glad to hear it. Unfortunately they were sold out at the store the other night, so we had to order one. But they said it will only be a few weeks.
MurphysLaw
03-06-2011, 07:23 AM
Thats a nice 1911 Brian, cool to see a matching holster with it too!
Thanks Sean, for a 68 year old gun that saw action in WWII, it still shoots accurately and handles current ammo without a problem. Not bad for a gun built by a typewriter company!
gravelman
03-06-2011, 09:33 AM
Well here's my contribution to the thread...All Smiths, all .38 special except for the .357 mag on the right.
OK I've posted a few comments in this thread. Time to share a picture.
My Para-Ordnance P-14.
The slide on the gun in the picture is a Les Baer, with Bo-Mar adj. sight, full length guide rod, NM bushing, Para stock barrel. The grip safety, main spring housing, safety are Ed Brown products. Can't remember what brand the hammer or Carbon Fiber trigger I used in this build.
The slide not on the gun is the original, but with a few mods too. I also installed a full length guide rod, buffer and removed the series 80 parts. The slide was also machined for the install of the Novak rear sight and dovetail front sight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/DSCN1156-1.jpg
I never liked the series 80 trigger. Colt ruined a beautiful thing. I love the Swartz Safety now used in Kimbers and many others where the firing-pin block is deactivated by the grip safety. Much better alternative that doesn't ruin the crisp clean SAO 1911 trigger.
My BIL Micah is looking to sell some 223/556 ammo. Some 2000 rounds of it. He recently sold his LMT AR-15 and he's looking to dump all or most of the ammo. PM me for prices if you're interested. We are looking for a local buyer, shipping prices tend to kill ammo transactions.
JaKaacH
03-08-2011, 08:14 AM
84 year old WWII sniper still has the skills. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQRpAxGVg4M&feature=player_embedded#at=52)
Great video, thanks Jeff.
Very cool video. Thanks for posting.
gettysburgfreak
03-08-2011, 12:24 PM
Just picked up my Spikes Tactical M4 and I must say its exactly as advertised. They included a hard case and black Magpul magazine which is pretty badass. My only gripe is the selector switch feels a little loose, it doesn't crisply snap into position. Other than that it looks great and everything fits well together. Will post pics tomorrow as I am on my way to work.
MurphysLaw
03-08-2011, 01:47 PM
Just picked up my Spikes Tactical M4 and I must say its exactly as advertised. They included a hard case and black Magpul magazine which is pretty badass. My only gripe is the selector switch feels a little loose, it doesn't crisply snap into position. Other than that it looks great and everything fits well together. Will post pics tomorrow as I am on my way to work.
Congrats! Magpul mags are awesome and ultra-reliable, I've put a few thousand rounds through mine with no issues at all. If you keep your eyes out they can be had for a good price too. I bought 5 at one time for $100 total at a gun show
gettysburgfreak
03-11-2011, 11:49 AM
Here are the pics of my Spikes Tactical LE M4. I'm really happy with it minus the fact they forgot to put on the upgraded trigger system that I ordered and instead put on the standard trigger. They are sending it to me and now I have to pay a gunsmith to put it on. Hopefully going to shoot it tomorrow.
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/4688/044r.th.jpg (http://img857.imageshack.us/i/044r.jpg/)
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/2184/045ua.th.jpg (http://img849.imageshack.us/i/045ua.jpg/)
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3077/046xz.th.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/046xz.jpg/)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3540/049ck.th.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/049ck.jpg/)
JaKaacH
03-11-2011, 12:06 PM
I posted this picture earlier, but I wanted to ask about finishes. I've always wanted to have the frame hard chromed, but don't want to spend the $220.00 to get it done.
There are a lot of good things said about Cerakote.clicky (http://www.nicindustries.com/firearm_coatings.php)
Just wondering if anyone has used it, or had a firearm finished with this product? Its going to to be a DIY project..How hard can it be..? (Famous last words.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/jkach/DSCN1156-1.jpg
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