First Firearm Thread.

[smitty81]

We tried to ban the sun but it never showed up to the hearing.

lol, good one! :r

[CigarSquid]

I am in the looks for something smaller than my S&W .40.

I want something that is easy to carry at all times. Not sure what caliber I want to go with.

[smitty81]

I am in the looks for something smaller than my S&W .40.

I want something that is easy to carry at all times. Not sure what caliber I want to go with.

smaller than a .40?

Go with a 9mm

[CigarSquid]

I am tossed up between that. I want a smaller gun, but not sure if I want the smaller cal. Since I have the .40 already, It would be nice to stay with that.. But, The ones I see for .40 compact, I don't care for the looks.

I still have a ton of research to do before I buy.. It will be in 6 or so months before I get one..

[MurphysLaw]

I am tossed up between that. I want a smaller gun, but not sure if I want the smaller cal. Since I have the .40 already, It would be nice to stay with that.. But, The ones I see for .40 compact, I don't care for the looks.

I still have a ton of research to do before I buy.. It will be in 6 or so months before I get one..

Check out the Kahr PM and CM models. I have the PM9 (9mm) and its a great carry gun, they make it in .40 S&W as well. The CM is the same size, but is a less expensive model.

[MurphysLaw]

"Mags" or "Magazines," Wade.
Clips are for old school integral magazine firearms or girls hairdos. ;)


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c82/Brian32FSU/ClipMagazineLesson-1-.jpg

:tu

[BC-Axeman]

I have a Rem Nylon 66 .22, it has a tubular magazine. They made a variation with an insertable stacked magazine. It is a lot easier for me to say clip-fed and tube-fed since they are both magazines. Is there any better way to describe this?

[emopunker2004]

I am in the looks for something smaller than my S&W .40.

I want something that is easy to carry at all times. Not sure what caliber I want to go with.

check out that S&W shield. It's small. less than 1 inch thick. go to youtube and type in S&S Shield
Here it is in the hands of the small lady on this seasons Top Shot to show size

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/543636_209064032541755_145275622253930_346948_1797 532006_n.jpg

[emopunker2004]

Check out the Kahr PM and CM models. I have the PM9 (9mm) and its a great carry gun, they make it in .40 S&W as well. The CM is the same size, but is a less expensive model.

What Brian says. The Kahr CM9 will be my next purchase.

Compared to the ruger LCP .380

http://i958.photobucket.com/albums/ae70/BeardogV1/P1040548.jpg


And here against the Ruger LC9,Ruger's smallest 9mm pistol

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nKhXRf4JHbA/TaiCKe12fYI/AAAAAAAAEIM/E5AMIOcdKB8/s1600/cm9vslc91.jpg

[Barcode]

Being the Springfield hoe I can't wait for the xds to become Cali legal of it ever will be 8(

6+1 you will be safe

[Volusianator]

IMHO, the LCP is almost too small for a mans hand. The LC9 is manageable.

[emopunker2004]

I like the size of the LC9/keltec pf9. The PM/CM9 is nice too. I've shot the CW9 which is about the overall size of a Glock 27 but has more grip length. I'm still debating CM9 or CW9. CM9 is pocketable but the CW9 is small on the hip

[Volusianator]

"Mags" or "Magazines," Wade.
Clips are for old school integral magazine firearms or girls hairdos. ;)
Interesting choice on the synthetic motor oil for the lubrication of the pistol. You didn't trust the Gunzilla?

If I asked you to toss me a clip, you'd know what I meant.

[replicant_argent]

IMHO, the LCP is almost too small for a mans hand. The LC9 is manageable.
Depends on the man and his hands and his preferences, doesn't it? I think you mean your hands and preferences. Ruger hasn't sold eleventy billion of them to just women, now have they? No reason to be misogynistic about it.
If I asked you to toss me a clip, you'd know what I meant.
Yep, and I would gladly hand you a barrette for your beautiful flowing locks, Sweetie. ;)
Are there Zombies, snakes or Nazis involved?
I hate Nazis and snakes, Jacque.

[Steve]

NOT a clip!

http://thespecialistsltd.com/files/Mossberg%20500%20Sidewinder.jpg

Just stirring the pot :noon

[replicant_argent]

NOT a clip!

http://thespecialistsltd.com/files/Mossberg%20500%20Sidewinder.jpg

Just stirring the pot :noon

Is that a bass or a snare?

[Steve]

Is that a bass or a snare?

Tom-Tom :D

[replicant_argent]

I am going to take this old war horse out to a large Wisconsin gravel pit this weekend to see if it still shoots after 70 years.

[Steve]

Sweet!

[Volusianator]

Depends on the man and his hands and his preferences, doesn't it? I think you mean your hands and preferences. Ruger hasn't sold eleventy billion of them to just women, now have they? No reason to be misogynistic about it.


Hence why I started it out with IMHO...

[bigswol2]

Here's my Para P-13 45
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/bigswol2/IMAG0232.jpg

[hammondc]

Hence why I started it out with IMHO...

Devil in the details. I agree for the most part. BUT...it fits nicely in my cargo shorts in the summer and is crazy lightweight.

Not a man cutter like a .45, but way better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick if the SHTF.

[Volusianator]

Devil in the details. I agree for the most part. BUT...it fits nicely in my cargo shorts in the summer and is crazy lightweight.

Not a man cutter like a .45, but way better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick if the SHTF.

Guys get so defensive of opinions, nobody here tells us what cigars to smoke and we all like different things. I'm just saying, IMHO, the LCP is not a gun made for MOST mens hands, that's all.

[wally592]

Glock 26 9mm
Partagas Serie P No. 2 Tubos - Enjoyed one of these when I was in Japan with my Army brother. Stayed at the Turtle Inn in Nikko and enjoyed it in the lounge in the Inn with my brother, my brother-in-law, and some guy from the Philippines who happened to be staying in the Inn that night as well. Great times.

Most of my most memorable cigars are tied to a memorable experience with great company.

[WyGuy]

Anybody do much trap/skeet shooting? Recently just got into it, and today I just ordered a Remington 1100 CT. Will post some pics once it gets in.

[czerbe]

My EDC is an XD9mm SC I also Bug a LCP have other long guns but one of my most favorite firearms to shoot is the Ruger MKiii

[eber]

Well I wasn't planning on buying a new gun when I went to the range last night but I couldn't pass it up. I saw an old friend walk into the range with few guns that he was trying to trade/sell to the shop, one of them was a lightly used Rock Island Arms 1911 .45 compact. He told me all he wanted was $150 and since I had just won about $150 at the casino a few nights ago it was an easy decision. I wasnt a big fan of the packerized finish at first but I am really starting to like the rugged look.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/emulberry/photo-21.jpg

[Brian D.]

I'd been in the market for a semiauto .308/7.62x51 rifle for a couple months. Not much luck, even the usual online suspects are sold out of so much stuff!

But I'm perserverant if nothing else. One of the local shops had a DPMS LR-.308 AP4 on the shelf a week or so back. Wasn't really leaning towards the AR-10 platform (more of an M1A enthusianado) but after handling the DPMS and doing just a tiny bit of haggling I walked out with it.

Only been able to shoot it about 60 yards so far but that was from prone and the bullet holes were piled on top of each other.

[emopunker2004]

Well I wasn't planning on buying a new gun when I went to the range last night but I couldn't pass it up. I saw an old friend walk into the range with few guns that he was trying to trade/sell to the shop, one of them was a lightly used Rock Island Arms 1911 .45 compact. He told me all he wanted was $150 and since I had just won about $150 at the casino a few nights ago it was an easy decision. I wasnt a big fan of the packerized finish at first but I am really starting to like the rugged look.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/emulberry/photo-21.jpg

You got a steal there. That gun is at LEAST worth 2x that

[Stig]

Well I wasn't planning on buying a new gun when I went to the range last night but I couldn't pass it up. I saw an old friend walk into the range with few guns that he was trying to trade/sell to the shop, one of them was a lightly used Rock Island Arms 1911 .45 compact. He told me all he wanted was $150 and since I had just won about $150 at the casino a few nights ago it was an easy decision. I wasnt a big fan of the packerized finish at first but I am really starting to like the rugged look.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/emulberry/photo-21.jpg

I have a compact RIA 1911 like that but with fitted grips and I paid $300+ for mine. Definitely got a steal there.

[Bill86]

Nice :tu

A 1911 for $150, who isn't happy?

[eber]

yeah it was a pretty easy decision, I took it to the range last night and put another 100 rounds through it and I absolutely love this gun, however some new sights might be in order though.

[emopunker2004]

Finally decided and put a Kahr CM9 on layaway. I pay it off Friday when payday comes. Already ordered a holster for it

[TRicker]

I need a Mare's leg bad!

[WyGuy]

My grad present to myself, hopefully I'll be able to try it tomorrow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/mike2212/Guns/IMG_0779.jpg

[Cigar Mike]

Very nice!

[emopunker2004]

My newest

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7102/7181518314_5b84719daa_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7181518314/)
DSC_3768 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7181518314/) by thestemens16 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7079/7181433260_ffe333ee66_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7181433260/)
DSC_3770 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7181433260/) by thestemens16 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7222/7181402502_307bc693c0_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7181402502/)
DSC_3776 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7181402502/) by thestemens16 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

[Brian D.]

Picked myself up a Springfield Armory EMP 9mm last week. It sailed thru break-in with zero malfunctions from several kinds of ammo. After cleaning/oiling, it went right onto my hip in an IWB holster.

[emopunker2004]

Well my holster shipped today for my CM9. Can't wait to get it. It's a custom kydex holster made by PJ at PJholster.com :tu

[emopunker2004]

Picked myself up a Springfield Armory EMP 9mm last week. It sailed thru break-in with zero malfunctions from several kinds of ammo. After cleaning/oiling, it went right onto my hip in an IWB holster.

Springfield makes good guns. I love 1911s but I think I'd only buy one in 45ACP or 38Super. That's just my personal preference

[MarkinAZ]

Got a holster question for all:

I have a Springfield XD45 Tactical. Any recommendations for a IWB/SOB clip-on for this piece?

Thanks!

[emopunker2004]

Got a holster question for all:

I have a Springfield XD45 Tactical. Any recommendations for a IWB/SOB clip-on for this piece?

Thanks!


Mark. Check out Theis Holsters and PJHolser.com
Both of these are one man shops and they make them by hand. They are priced reasonably with relatively short wait times. They are priced pretty well too. I have a Theis holste for a 1911 and I have a PJ holster in route for my Kahr

[MurphysLaw]

Got a holster question for all:

I have a Springfield XD45 Tactical. Any recommendations for a IWB/SOB clip-on for this piece?

Thanks!


Also check out FIST holsters, I have one of the ultra thin kydex IWB holsters for my Kahr.

[Brian D.]

Springfield makes good guns. I love 1911s but I think I'd only buy one in 45ACP or 38Super. That's just my personal preference

I got those and 10mm covered already emopunker. Come to think of it, the GSG-1911 in .22lr counts too.

[czerbe]

Crossbreed Holsters are some of the best out there. They make great products. I use the Supertuck with my XD9MMSC and I love it forget my guns even there

[MarkinAZ]

Thanks for the holster info everyone. I'll have to start researching those items mentioned...:tu

[357]

I got my IWB for my 1911 from these guys:

http://www.wildbillsconcealment.com/wildbill/shop/

Quality is top-notch. They even bought black painted snaps to match the color of the leather. That way it's less likely to stand out.

I bought the Summer Heat model, with a FBI cant, which goes for $60.
http://www.wildbillsconcealment.com/wildbill/shop/item.aspx?itemid=3024
Springfield XD45 is also on the list for that model holster.

[bonjing]

Raven concealment is also a good one.

[MTB996]

Crossbreed Holsters are some of the best out there. They make great products. I use the Supertuck with my XD9MMSC and I love it forget my guns even there

I second the crossbreed recommendation. Great holsters. I also have a milt sparks for the 1911 and it is a work of art, but the 7 month wait is cruel.

[Cigar Mike]

Crossbreed Holsters are some of the best out there. They make great products. I use the Supertuck with my XD9MMSC and I love it forget my guns even there

I have to agree on the Cross Breed. Back home I used one every day for my full-sized XD in .45. I'm a pretty skinny guy and I was dubious about carrying something that large as my every-day weapon, but that holster really made it possible. I tried maybe four other holsters before settling on the Cross Breed. It took a little time for it to break in suitably for me, maybe a month, but it was well worth every penny once it shaped up.

By the way, I ended up using their "combat cut" shape, and that turned out to really facilitate quicker draws for me since "space" is at such a premium. The guys there at the factory also were very accommodating with answering questions for me before hand and some special shipping requests that I had.

[Digs]

I have a crossbreed for my 10mm Colt delta, not bad. But after also owning the Galco King Tuk for my Glock 17 I wouldn't by another Crossbreed. The king tuk is cut nicer (don't need the combat cut option) and its apox $40 cheaper and most Cabelas have them on the shelf. :2

[emopunker2004]

here's my Kahr in my new Pj Holster


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/7218996852_00063f8d58_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7218996852/)
DSC_3785 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7218996852/) by thestemens16 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

[bigswol2]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/bigswol2/IMAG0149.jpg
Saiga 12 w/quad rail

[emopunker2004]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/bigswol2/IMAG0149.jpg
Saiga 12 w/quad rail

Very nice.

[bigswol2]

Picked up a sr1911
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/bigswol2/IMAG0201.jpg

[emopunker2004]

VERY nice. Those are hard to come by.

[bigswol2]

I have a crossbreed for my 10mm Colt delta, not bad. But after also owning the Galco King Tuk for my Glock 17 I wouldn't by another Crossbreed. The king tuk is cut nicer (don't need the combat cut option) and its apox $40 cheaper and most Cabelas have them on the shelf. :2

Colt delta elite is one nice piece! Ahem....pics

[bigswol2]

VERY nice. Those are hard to come by.Youre

You're telling me. I was lucky enough to get 2.

[emopunker2004]

Youre

You're telling me. I was lucky enough to get 2.

:O:O

[Partially Deaf]

I'm saving up for a Beretta 686 White Onyx and a 687 Silver Pigeon II. I'm sure if I just cut cigar expenditures for a few months I can afford them.

[Digs]

Youre

You're telling me. I was lucky enough to get 2.

I haven’t personally handled one in the 8 months or so there out! But I understand that production may have been slowed by manufacturing issue with the MIM parts?? I am a 1911 guy so it would prolly follow me home if I found one.

[Digs]

Colt delta elite is one nice piece! Ahem....pics



http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh587/ak47dennis/002.jpg

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Do you shoot 10mm auto often? I'm curious because I've been very interested the last year or so in getting a 10mm, looking at Glocks.. I don't want to spend out the azz for ammo, but it looks like thats just how 10mm is.

[Digs]

Do you shoot 10mm auto often? I'm curious because I've been very interested the last year or so in getting a 10mm, looking at Glocks.. I don't want to spend out the azz for ammo, but it looks like thats just how 10mm is.

Yes I shoot it often, you can get 10 for $25-$29 a box. Heck the brass is worth .30 cents ea. So no its not as cheap as 9mm :tu

The G20 and 29 are great and hold more rds then the delta that only holds 8. Heck you can by both the G20 & 29 for the less then the price of one Delta!!

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Yes I shoot it often, you can get 10 for $25-$29 a box. Heck the brass is worth .30 cents ea. So no its not as cheap as 9mm :tu

The G20 and 29 are great and hold more rds then the delta that only holds 8. Heck you can by both the G20 & 29 for the less then the price of one Delta!!

I've never liked 1911's, but something about the Delta Elite makes me want one.. Maybe cause it's chambered in 10mm auto:D

I like the G29, and the price is more up my alley. I've shot my friend's G29 and it's a powerhouse of a gun, I was expecting more kick than what it delivered though. I also like the idea of 11 rounds of 10mm in that small package.

[Digs]

I've never liked 1911's, but something about the Delta Elite makes me want one.. Maybe cause it's chambered in 10mm auto:D

I like the G29, and the price is more up my alley. I've shot my friend's G29 and it's a powerhouse of a gun, I was expecting more kick than what it delivered though. I also like the idea of 11 rounds of 10mm in that small package.

That's because most of the fmj ammo has been been turned into at best a +p .40 caliber load because of all the ***** girlish men that exsist...try shooting 10 mm 200 grain from double tap the way 10 is supose to be loaded. lol

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

That's because most of the fmj ammo has been been turned into at best a +p .40 caliber load because of all the ***** girlish men that exsist...try shooting 10 mm 200 grain from double tap the way 10 is supose to be loaded. lol

It was maybe 180 that I shot then, can't imagine it was 200 grain Double Tap. Even then, I've been reading that the Double Tap is one of the hottest rounds, and people don't really complain about kick or control issues..

[emopunker2004]

I recently purchased a Kahr CM9 and PJ IWB Clip Holster. I've carried IWB on and off over the past few years with varying gun/holster combos. Up until now I've just been using a flimsy braided leather belt. Well the time came to buy something more EDC worthy.

Enter the 5.11 Double Duty TDU 1.5" belt. Swung by the local tactical supply store to see how it would do, or if I needed to go with the Trainer belt, which costs 2x as much. The DD TDU belt is plenty stiff for EDC. It's 2-ply nylon webbing, twice as thick and stiff as the regular TDU belt, and is "reversible" and has a plastic buckle. The belt also has 5 rows of stitching to help with the stiffness. I picked up the tan/black combo for $19.99. I'm thuroughly impressed with this belt. It holds the weapon sturdy and is a comfortable belt for EDC or just casual wear. Overall I'd say it's a great EDC belt and a bargain for the money.
**One note to add, I wear 36: waist jeans but I had to step up to the 40-42: (XL) belt. I have about 4-6" of excess material with this fset up, which is fine. YMMV**

Here's a picture of the 2 color options, black/olive black/coyote:
http://www.qmuniforms.com/_productimages/brands/5.11%20tactical/belts/1000x1000/s53-3123.jpg

[Steve]

**One note to add, I wear 36: waist jeans but I had to step up to the 40-42: (XL) belt. I have about 4-6" of excess material with this fset up, which is fine. YMMV**

Funny, I really wear a size 32 waist, but had to step up to a 42 belt...

:noon

[emopunker2004]

Funny, I really wear a size 32 waist, but had to step up to a 42 belt...

:noon

:rolleyes:

[thebayratt]

Just picked up a Beretta Nano in 9mm this past tuesday. It is small enough to fit in my pocket, smooth sided for easy withdrawl from the pocket, and acurate enough to foul up anyone for life (if they need to be fouled up ) from 15yrds or less. I read they are decently accurate at 25yrds. But at that far way, there is no threat unless they have a gun pointed at me... So I only practice with it from 10-15 yards mainly and a few at 25yrds.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg861/scaled.php?tn=0&server=861&filename=sl7pw.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

[emopunker2004]

Just picked up a Beretta Nano in 9mm this past tuesday. It is small enough to fit in my pocket, smooth sided for easy withdrawl from the pocket, and acurate enough to foul up anyone for life (if they need to be fouled up ) from 15yrds or less. I read they are decently accurate at 25yrds. But at that far way, there is no threat unless they have a gun pointed at me... So I only practice with it from 10-15 yards mainly and a few at 25yrds.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg861/scaled.php?tn=0&server=861&filename=sl7pw.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Grats. I was originally torn between the nano and Kahr CM9 but settled on the CM9 and love it. How's it been running so far?

[thebayratt]

Grats. I was originally torn between the nano and Kahr CM9 but settled on the CM9 and love it. How's it been running so far?

Pretty good. The only thing that is getting me is the long trigger pull on it. Which is causing me to pre-react to the kick; thus dropping my barrel. Its a safety feature I believe. Other than that I haven't had any issues with it at all. It comes apart easily for cleaning with a pen (or paperclip) to de-**** it and a 9mm shell (to rotake the takedown turn).

I've looked a little online for the gripframes that you can swap out with it, but still haven't found any yet.

Next, I'd like to change out the sights for a set of night sights and do a little bit of dusk target practising with it.

I had also looked at a Kimber Ultra Carry II, but couldn't really afford it at the time. That and looked for a S&W M&P Shield. But was told that S&W has about a 3month backlog on orders that the dealer wouldn't be getting any new S&W shipped to him til end of June or July.

My Dad had a Kahr that I liked (a 40 i believe) and he got rid of it "because of who makes them" (the Moonies??). He didn't even give me a chance to get it off of him.... owell, he is odd like that.

[hammondc]

Have any of you messed with the new Sig P938?

[Ogre]

Does anyone have any experience with the Taurus 24/7 G2 compact??? I am wanting to know if there is an extended magazine for this pistol. I have large hands and need the extra grab space.

[MurphysLaw]

Does anyone have any experience with the Taurus 24/7 G2 compact??? I am wanting to know if there is an extended magazine for this pistol. I have large hands and need the extra grab space.

I dont have experience with that particular gun, but in my experience, taurus makes a good revolver, but I wouldn't buy another one of their semi autos again. I had a PT140 that was nothing but trouble, too many malfunctions to count with all kinds of ammo, front sight came off while shooting. I'd really check recent reviews and long term tests before dropping coin on one. My :2 and worth about as much, YMMV

[bonjing]

Ogre, Why not just go Glock with the finger extension.

[Ogre]

Ogre, Why not just go Glock with the finger extension.

Not to sound mean, or disrespectful, but I would not carry a Glock if you gave it to me. Not a fan at all!!!!!

[Bill86]

Does anyone have any experience with the Taurus 24/7 G2 compact??? I am wanting to know if there is an extended magazine for this pistol. I have large hands and need the extra grab space.

Google says :tu

9mm: 13 and 17 round extended magazine
.40S&W: 11 and 15 round extended magazine
.45acp: 10 and 12 round extended magazine

I would go to a gun shop and get your hands on the pistol w/ extended mag.

[hammondc]

Not to sound mean, or disrespectful, but I would not carry a Glock if you gave it to me. Not a fan at all!!!!!

They are ugly as sin, but always go bang. -(P

[Ogre]

They are ugly as sin, but always go bang. -(P

I have seen to many problems with them and I really hate that trigger!!!!:r

[Ogre]

A big part of my problem is, I am left handed. There a vary few autos that are for lefties that dont cost an arm and a leg. May just go with my old off duty gun and get another Ruger SP101 in 357.

[Digs]

Ogre, Why not just go Glock with the finger extension. :tu:tu


Bottom line is Glock is the top shelf when it comes to polymer hand guns. (period) Most every design try to be Glock but still never measure up. There are more PD's & military carrying Glocks then all the other models combined! There isn't a design currently that can handle the abuse a Glock will endure. You have the interchangeability - most all the internal parts interchange from the Glock 17 to 39 (and most parts are $4-5). All mags in the same caliber interchange (from full size down to sub compact = interchangeability) and sell for $10 for foreign surplus or $23-$24 for factory Glock mags All Glocks only contain 34 parts, 4 of the parts alone are in the magazines. Most appealing is they currently sell for $499 to aprox. $550 and come with up to 3 high cap mags (gen 4)

Sorry Ogre - Taurus is the Gurkha of the firearms world if I had to trust my life on a handgun and you are surrounded by walkers it be a Glock.

[Ogre]

I know guns are like cigars, shoot what you like. I will just say this, the local police dept here got rid of all their Glocks due to 2 serious malfunctions. To me, its the Ford, Chevy, Dodge debate. If I could afford one, I would love to have either a Kimber or Sig 220.

[MurphysLaw]

I know guns are like cigars, shoot what you like. I will just say this, the local police dept here got rid of all their Glocks due to 2 serious malfunctions. To me, its the Ford, Chevy, Dodge debate. If I could afford one, I would love to have either a Kimber or Sig 220.

I remember reading that Sig has had some quality issues lately, I love my old P229. Have you looked into the Springfied XD line? I'm not sure how the configuration is for a southpaw, but I've heard a lot of positive things about them.

[Bill86]

Eh, FWIW...and I've owned a Glock (long gone now) and my brother currently owns one. So I've shot a few different Glocks and rented them at the range as well.....I share Larry's thoughts, Glocks aren't for me.

They aren't that cheap...the $500 includes the plastic crap sights, they aren't accurate. Changing them out costs $150 or so to. That's $650-$700 total. Back in the day, and what I paid, was $850 for a Dan Wesson 1911, they are EONS apart in quality and accuracy.

Glocks get used and carried by LEO's for reliability and durability alone. I would argue this is why you see so many shootings where dozens upon dozens of bullets are fired without hitting anything but that's another thread entirely and is solely based on my experience with Glocks being inaccurate.

Stock Glocks have piss-poor accuracy. Upgrading the sights makes them tolerable but I still feel you are trading comfortability and accuracy for durability and reliability.

Sure if you practice enough with any gun you'll get the hang of it, but IMHO Glocks have the most learning curve.

[Digs]

I know guns are like cigars, shoot what you like. I will just say this, the local police dept here got rid of all their Glocks due to 2 serious malfunctions. To me, its the Ford, Chevy, Dodge debate. If I could afford one, I would love to have either a Kimber or Sig 220.

Just for the record, I am a 1911 guy and collect WW2 German, cold war rifles/pistols MG's. I have Kimber Ultra carry II, it shoots no better then my $389 Rock Island compact your really paying for the name. I also had a 220 another fine pistol I ended up trading it for my 229. A lot of folks ask me what is a good pistol usually tell them what ever you can shoot well with.

Just out of curiosity what malfunctions did they have with Glock? I also work part time as gunsmith and 9 tenths of the malfunctions I see are operator induced.

[MurphysLaw]

Just out of curiosity what malfunctions did they have with Glock? I also work part time as gunsmith and 9 tenths of the malfunctions I see are operator induced.

Here's a link that has the article: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/general-sa-xd-xd-m-talk/124748-haven-police-ditch-glocks-after-two-explode.html

[Ogre]

First one, they had a trigger assembly come apart and the second looked like a stove pipe but found a cracked barrel on inspection. These were both 45acp.

[Digs]

Eh, FWIW...and I've owned a Glock (long gone now) and my brother currently owns one. So I've shot a few different Glocks and rented them at the range as well.....I share Larry's thoughts, Glocks aren't for me.

They aren't that cheap...the $500 includes the plastic crap sights, they aren't accurate. Changing them out costs $150 or so to. That's $650-$700 total. Back in the day, and what I paid, was $850 for a Dan Wesson 1911, they are EONS apart in quality and accuracy.

Glocks get used and carried by LEO's for reliability and durability alone. I would argue this is why you see so many shootings where dozens upon dozens of bullets are fired without hitting anything but that's another thread entirely and is solely based on my experience with Glocks being inaccurate.

Stock Glocks have piss-poor accuracy. Upgrading the sights makes them tolerable but I still feel you are trading comfortability and accuracy for durability and reliability.

Sure if you practice enough with any gun you'll get the hang of it, but IMHO Glocks have the most learning curve.


Bill I will admit Glocks aren't for everyone - right of the shelf I can shoot any of my Browning Hi Powers better. Glocks are just as accurate as any other upper end pistol, what gives the appearance of lack of accuracy is if you aren't familiar with the trigger you will shoot very poor! I fire over a 1000 rounds a month for years and see it all the time at the range (a new guy with Glock) You must practice your trigger pull. (period) Most my family is or was PA State police and can tell you a 100 stories of really bad accuracy when they pull there pistols most of comes from just pulling hard and fast on the trigger, making it shoot low or the ground in front of themselves.(remember most police prolly fire less then 200 rds per year!!) If you master the Glock trigger you will shoot all other pistols better just not Glocks. Also night sights for Glocks can be had for $60-$70. I am not a Glock fan boy I am really a romantic and believe a real gun has a fine blue finish and nice walnut grips :tu.

[Ogre]

I think I am going to go with the Ruger SP101 or the Taurus 605 in 357mag. Easy to conceal and enough stopping power. Can practice with cheaper 38 ammo and carry mag rounds for defense.

[Digs]

Here's a link that has the article: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/general-sa-xd-xd-m-talk/124748-haven-police-ditch-glocks-after-two-explode.html


That was more then likely a bullet set back issue (ammo) This is from officers continually chambering a round at the start of the shift and the clearing at the end of shift. When this happens it doubles chamber pressures and Kaboom - just last month a I saw Beretta 92 brake a slide and even blow the mag out!!! Also take notice that was a G37 which is the .45 gap round, this round is extremely short and stubby and has little space between the powder and the back of the round. If any caliber is prone to set back which doubles chamber pressures its .45 gap (I hate this rd)

[Ogre]

That was more then likely a bullet set back issue (ammo) This is from officers continually chambering a round at the start of the shift and the clearing at the end of shift. When this happens it doubles chamber pressures and Kaboom - just last month a I saw Beretta 92 brake a slide and even blow the mag out!!! Also take notice that was a G37 which is the .45 gap round, this round is extremely short and stubby and has little space between the powder and the back of the round. If any caliber is prone to set back which doubles chamber pressures its .45 gap (I hate this rd)

Learn something new everyday. Thanks for the education brother.:tu

[Digs]

Learn something new everyday. Thanks for the education brother.:tu

No problem borhter just looking out for my BOTL , here is a good picture of what happens dosent have to be even this severe.

[Bill86]

Bill I will admit Glocks aren't for everyone - right of the shelf I can shoot any of my Browning Hi Powers better. Glocks are just as accurate as any other upper end pistol, what gives the appearance of lack of accuracy is if you aren't familiar with the trigger you will shoot very poor! I fire over a 1000 rounds a month for years and see it all the time at the range (a new guy with Glock) You must practice your trigger pull. (period) Most my family is or was PA State police and can tell you a 100 stories of really bad accuracy when they pull there pistols most of comes from just pulling hard and fast on the trigger, making it shoot low or the ground in front of themselves.(remember most police prolly fire less then 200 rds per year!!) If you master the Glock trigger you will shoot all other pistols better just not Glocks. Also night sights for Glocks can be had for $60-$70. I am not a Glock fan boy I am really a romantic and believe a real gun has a fine blue finish and nice walnut grips :tu.

Yep, I absolutely agree about the Browning Hi-power...In fact...

My Conceal carry test with a 1940's-50's Browning Hi-Power. Second time shooting it at a new range. Kind of dimly lit but I believe the desired effect was achieved. This was ~6 months ago

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/Bill1986/IMG_0133.jpg

Not bad for a crusty old gun.

[Ogre]

And a crusty old shooter!!!!!

[jluck]

Not to sound mean, or disrespectful, but I would not carry a Glock if you gave it to me. Not a fan at all!!!!!

X3....or 4 or.....

I really don't like them, I have been around them enough to make that decision for myself. There are way to many good gun makers out there to take the chance.

[bonjing]

Larry, Have you looked at the sig 220 carry? Working at a shooting range that has piss poor maintenance for it's firearms, I will say that when everything, and I mean everything goes down (Sigs, HK's, Smith's, Beretta, Springfield's) Glocks are the only thing left running on the shelves. I am not a fanboy of Glock by any means, in fact I hate them, the look and feel aren't just for me. But After more practice with them I've become more fond of them and actually shoot them almost as well as my Sigs.

The one major problem I have is that I have sweaty hands and the gun tends to slip around in my hand during long shooting sessions, so I have to use a little grip tape.

[Poronico]

Larry, Have you looked at the sig 220 carry? Working at a shooting range that has piss poor maintenance for it's firearms, I will say that when everything, and I mean everything goes down (Sigs, HK's, Smith's, Beretta, Springfield's) Glocks are the only thing left running on the shelves. I am not a fanboy of Glock by any means, in fact I hate them, the look and feel aren't just for me. But After more practice with them I've become more fond of them and actually shoot them almost as well as my Sigs.

The one major problem I have is that I have sweaty hands and the gun tends to slip around in my hand during long shooting sessions, so I have to use a little grip tape.

Glocks truly are the AK of the pistol world, but a moderately cared for Sig will go just as far. I own a number of sigs, a G17, and 3 Berettas. The least favorite of my pistols is my glock due to the grip angle being entirely uncomfortable and not within my muscle memory to compensate without throwing off my other pistol training. My all time favorite carry weapon is my Sig Tac Ops 226 in 9mm, if I need something a little more on the compact size I go to my Beretta PX4 Storm in .45 both of which I can drive tacks with at 50 feet.

[Ogre]

Larry, Have you looked at the sig 220 carry? Working at a shooting range that has piss poor maintenance for it's firearms, I will say that when everything, and I mean everything goes down (Sigs, HK's, Smith's, Beretta, Springfield's) Glocks are the only thing left running on the shelves. I am not a fanboy of Glock by any means, in fact I hate them, the look and feel aren't just for me. But After more practice with them I've become more fond of them and actually shoot them almost as well as my Sigs.

The one major problem I have is that I have sweaty hands and the gun tends to slip around in my hand during long shooting sessions, so I have to use a little grip tape.

I have, but right now it comes down to cost. With Leigh and I getting married in October, funds have been a little tight. I picked this up for Leigh today and she loves it. Already been to the range and put 100 rounds through it.

Its a Taurus 85 Ultra Light. Have it loaded with Remington Golden Sabers, 125g +P JHP for defensive rounds.
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc9/ogre3239/Snapbucket/4C894F60-orig.jpg

[Blueface]

My latest addition a couple of months ago.
Just got the Crimson Trace a week or so ago.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/e9a08a3e.jpg

Now begging wife for a Remington 870 12 g 18" for Father's Day.:D

[Blueface]

Also got the Crimson Trace for my Ruger LCP.
Cigar budget long gone.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/f77b0e6a.jpg

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Nice additions Carlos. You getting the 870 for home defense?

[Blueface]

Nice additions Carlos. You getting the 870 for home defense?

Yup.
Looking at the synthetic Express 6+1.
Bass Pro Shops has best price I have found at $389.
Bud's does not have the one I want.

Just ordered Crimson for my Sigma.
Wife is going to kill me.
My thought is she will get over it.
I have had to do the same with many of her charging sprees.
Three letters for cigars scared me from buying for a while and then I found this yet equally addictive hobby.
Off to range shortly.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Yup.
Looking at the synthetic Express 6+1.
Bass Pro Shops has best price I have found at $389.
Bud's does not have the one I want.

Just ordered Crimson for my Sigma.
Wife is going to kill me.
My thought is she will get over it.
I have had to do the same with many of her charging sprees.
Three letters for cigars scared me from buying for a while and then I found this yet equally addictive hobby.
Off to range shortly.

I'm on the edge of getting a Glock 29. I don't need another slope to fall down, so I'm holding out for now:r

[Blueface]

I'm on the edge of getting a Glock 29. I don't need another slope to fall down, so I'm holding out for now:r

:r
I want the Remington.
After that, an AR15 is in my plans.
Somewhere along the way, I really feel I need a .40 caliber as don't have one and thinking I will really, really need a Glock 27. :D

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

:r
I want the Remington.
After that, an AR15 is in my plans.
Somewhere along the way, I really feel I need a .40 caliber as don't have one and thinking I will really, really need a Glock 27. :D

I've been looking at ARs recently too:r I just got a 2012 Rock River Arms catalog in the mail a week or so ago, not good because I see some stuff I like in there. Pistol will come first though. G29 or something similar in 10mm auto.

[Blueface]

I've been looking at ARs recently too:r I just got a 2012 Rock River Arms catalog in the mail a week or so ago, not good because I see some stuff I like in there. Pistol will come first though. G29 or something similar in 10mm auto.

Gotta tell you, never fired the 10mm Glock as have read 10mm packs one heck of a wallop, and also the added cost of ammo.
But man do I love my Glock 21. Like I tell folks, if a Golden Saber bullet doesn't put them down, throw the gun at them and you may kill them that way as that gun is so heavy, but in a very good way.
That gun feels so solid when fully loaded. The recoil is quite interesting as I would describe it rather than a muzzle flip of a typical gun, more like a rifle. I guess that is attributed to the weight of slide and barrel and new double spring on Gen4 models.
Son and I were both able to shoot numerous rounds (7-8 in a row), where placement was unbelievable almost on top of one another.
I have not been able to do that with any other gun.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Gotta tell you, never fired the 10mm Glock as have read 10mm packs one heck of a wallop, and also the added cost of ammo.
But man do I love my Glock 21. Like I tell folks, if a Golden Saber bullet doesn't put them down, throw the gun at them and you may kill them that way as that gun is so heavy, but in a very good way.
That gun feels so solid when fully loaded. The recoil is quite interesting as I would describe it rather than a muzzle flip of a typical gun, more like a rifle. I guess that is attributed to the weight of slide and barrel and new double spring on Gen4 models.
Son and I were both able to shoot numerous rounds (7-8 in a row), where placement was unbelievable almost on top of one another.
I have not been able to do that with any other gun.

The recoil isn't what I expected after shooting one. Not bad at all. The cost of ammo is what I'm not so excited about. The G21 is a big gun for sure. Do you have a G30 as well?

[Blueface]

The recoil isn't what I expected after shooting one. Not bad at all. The cost of ammo is what I'm not so excited about. The G21 is a big gun for sure. Do you have a G30 as well?

I have three guns so far.
Glock 21, S&W Sigma 9mm and Ruger LCP.
I have a feeling my list will be a bit longer this time next year.:D

[Digs]

Yup.
Looking at the synthetic Express 6+1.
Bass Pro Shops has best price I have found at $389.
Bud's does not have the one I want.

Just ordered Crimson for my Sigma.
Wife is going to kill me.
My thought is she will get over it.
I have had to do the same with many of her charging sprees.
Three letters for cigars scared me from buying for a while and then I found this yet equally addictive hobby.
Off to range shortly.


Not sure I would would spend the money for crimson trace for a sigma ? That's kind of like putting $2500 wheels on a 1989 Hyundai . LOL

[Digs]

Carlos did you consider the laser max that integrates into the guide rod. That way you can carry it in any standard Glock holster.


My latest addition a couple of months ago.
Just got the Crimson Trace a week or so ago.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/e9a08a3e.jpg

Now begging wife for a Remington 870 12 g 18" for Father's Day.:D

[theonlybear4CORT]

Anyone have experience with the asym ammo? I currently have ranger T in my 1911 and wanted to hear some first hand experience from some botl.

[Blueface]

Not sure I would would spend the money for crimson trace for a sigma ? That's kind of like putting $2500 wheels on a 1989 Hyundai . LOL

Too late.
In a few days, that Hyundai is going to be blinged out with 22's. LOL

Actually getting it for wife. She is shooting much better with them on the guns.

[issues]

Went to the range yesterday and fell in love with a Springfield XDM 40. May have to kill the 1911 purchase and pick one of these up instead for my first semi-auto pistol! :tu

[spectrrr]

That gun feels so solid when fully loaded. The recoil is quite interesting as I would describe it rather than a muzzle flip of a typical gun, more like a rifle. I guess that is attributed to the weight of slide and barrel and new double spring on Gen4 models.
Son and I were both able to shoot numerous rounds (7-8 in a row), where placement was unbelievable almost on top of one another.
I have not been able to do that with any other gun.

I noticed the same thing when shooting a Glock 30, I loved it!
I don't have a 30 at the moment, but it's high on the short list to get one day....

Had a 27 a while back and sold it. Just not a big fan of the .40 cal in a Glock.

[Poronico]

OK... SO I am selling a majority of my firearms and doing some swapping to afford wedding rings and getting a monetary cushion for baby in August... Is anyone familiar with pricing on a P99 QPQ in .40? I looked online and found as little as 200 and as much as 550, I don't want to get taken for a ride on this trade and as it is a friend of a friend I semi feel obligated to give him a fair price.

[357]

OK... SO I am selling a majority of my firearms and doing some swapping to afford wedding rings and getting a monetary cushion for baby in August... Is anyone familiar with pricing on a P99 QPQ in .40? I looked online and found as little as 200 and as much as 550, I don't want to get taken for a ride on this trade and as it is a friend of a friend I semi feel obligated to give him a fair price.

Not sure about the value. I'd check gunbroker and gunsamerica and see what guns in similar condition are selling for.

[Poronico]

Neither site has nothing available on that weapon

[Blueface]

Neither site has nothing available on that weapon

Lots of folks seem to use Bud's to purchase.
Would start there as a "low" retail, up to whatever local shops are getting.

[Blueface]

After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.
AR 15 here I come.
Looking at DPMS PAnther or S&W MP15.
Would love the Colt but rather save the $400 or so for gadgets.

[replicant_argent]

After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.
AR 15 here I come.
Looking at DPMS PAnther or S&W MP15.
Would love the Colt but rather save the $400 or so for gadgets.

The M&P15 seems to be a winner overall. I have my eye on one of those as well.
In due time, I am hopeful. :rolleyes:

[Bill86]

I have the M&P AR-15. It's good, you'll just have to file down the lip on the PMAGS or else they won't fit. Other than that, no complaints.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.
AR 15 here I come.
Looking at DPMS PAnther or S&W MP15.
Would love the Colt but rather save the $400 or so for gadgets.

Besides having my eyes on the G29 and now a G30, I'm planning on buying a AR 15 as well. From what people tell me, Rock River Arms builds great firearms. They are priced decent as well. Bravo is another company I'm looking at, but more expensive.

[Ranger_B]

I would stick with the S&W. I have had no luck with DPMS. My brother has the M&P and is slowly pushing me in that direction.

[Poronico]

Selfless plug lol trying to fund rent for when the baby comes in August :(
http://www.armslist.com/posts/422633/seattle-washington-rifles-for-sale--ar-15-stag-arms-18--custom---ar-15-aero-precision-20--custom

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

I would stick with the S&W. I have had no luck with DPMS. My brother has the M&P and is slowly pushing me in that direction.

I have zero experience with AR 15s, but what little research I've done has all said DPMS is not a good deal, even if they are cheap. Then again, I would imagine it depends a lot on how many rounds the person plans to put through the gun. Maybe a casual shooter would be fine with a DPMS, I'm far from an expert on firearms.

[BC-Axeman]

After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.

It may have something to do with the type of gun he was shooting. A heavier semi-auto with a recoil pad is OK for shooting a few dozen rounds through. A lighter field gun is harder on you but only needs to be practiced with to get a feel for it. A home defense gun you would only shoot enough rounds to know what to expect.

One of the guns that has messed me up the most is a 30-30 carbine. A light gun with a narrow butt on the stock to concentrate the blow. Always makes me black and blue.

ARs are a lot of fun if you have a private place to shoot. A Ruger 10-22 with a scope and high capacity mags and a carton of shells with lots of cans, targets, ground squirrels, wood blocks, apples hanging in trees, crows, junk cars, etc. to shoot at is hard to beat for having fun on the cheap.

[Poronico]

DPMS aren't terrible firearms, but like any weapon you need to take care of them. I have shot plenty of them and had no problems at all, but I have read stories about people who don't clean or maintain their weapons and then cry when they jam.

[replicant_argent]

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/firearms/rifles/tactical/palmetto-state-armory/psa-16-hammer-forged-m4a1-patrol-rifle-package.html

All the specs on PSAs stuff are great, they use FN barrels, and the prices are right, I have also seen they have good customer service in my poking around da webz.

[Bill86]

After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.


12 gauge isn't bad, I own a few of them. I've had several 100-115 pound women shoot them without a problem.

It's all about the stock you purchase, I've got a nice stock on the Remington 870 and you can shoot it one handed. Though it will kick a bit :D, certainly never hurt anyone.

Stock says "Knoxx Spec Ops Stock". Look into them, they certainly work.

[TRicker]

I have a Smith & Wesson mp 15, and love it. Put a couple thousand rounds downrange so far, no problems. And thats shooting cheap ammo too.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Any guys here have a Bravo Company AR15?

[smitty81]

After seeing a big guy fire a 12 gauge at the range this past Sunday, decided I would like to keep my shoulder as it currently appears and instead, move on to a weapon I can have more fun with.
AR 15 here I come.
Looking at DPMS PAnther or S&W MP15.
Would love the Colt but rather save the $400 or so for gadgets.

12 Ga is a pud gun. Heck, kids 8+ shoot them out here during hunting season.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

12 Ga is a pud gun. Heck, kids 8+ shoot them out here during hunting season.

What's your point?

[theonlybear4CORT]

Any guys here have a Bravo Company AR15?

I have a midlenght upper and it's been flawless so far I just plink with it.
Filthy 14 (http://www.slip2000.com/art-swat2.html)

[Digs]

OK... SO I am selling a majority of my firearms and doing some swapping to afford wedding rings and getting a monetary cushion for baby in August... Is anyone familiar with pricing on a P99 QPQ in .40? I looked online and found as little as 200 and as much as 550, I don't want to get taken for a ride on this trade and as it is a friend of a friend I semi feel obligated to give him a fair price.

New the P99 .40 is around $500. (Maybe $525 out the door but don’t cont on recouping misc fees) Depending on condition and if you only have the 2 mags and case (like you got it) if its buddy ask $400 and see what kind of response you get?

The gun broker is ok for a lose reference; I see a lot of crack head prices on there. Its best to check what has sold not what is for sale, remember the reason you can see it for sale on gun broker is because no one has bought it yet. Lol

[Digs]

Besides having my eyes on the G29 and now a G30, I'm planning on buying a AR 15 as well. From what people tell me, Rock River Arms builds great firearms. They are priced decent as well. Bravo is another company I'm looking at, but more expensive.


Rock River is ok, but they are not the manufacturer they simply assemble AR's from purchased parts.

For me top shelf AR's (that are reasonable) and built to mil-spec would be Colt, Spikes Tactile, Lewis Machine and tool, SIG, and S&W, LWRC. The two brands I would stay away from would be 1. DPMS 2. Bushmaster

Remember if you chose to buy a Colt, it’s a Colt and kind of an investment.

[Digs]

I have zero experience with AR 15s, but what little research I've done has all said DPMS is not a good deal, even if they are cheap. Then again, I would imagine it depends a lot on how many rounds the person plans to put through the gun. Maybe a casual shooter would be fine with a DPMS, I'm far from an expert on firearms.

No they are ok if you buy on simply price; DPMS are not mil-spec (not refereeing to FA) I am not a hater just pointing out some items I have noticed.

Barrels are generally not chrome lined
Barrels are not MPI inspected
Bolt & carriers are not MPI inspected
Receivers will not fit all mags! (saw a pos dpms that a tango down mag wouldn’t fit)
Carrier interior not chrome lined
Bolt & carriers are not MPI inspected
Gas key screws not staked and improper hardness
Rifles with the M4 stock have a commercial spec tube and are not staked properly

The fit between the upper & lower are pretty lose on the rifles I have handled and worked on, overall there QC is a little week, I have also seen Olympic and Bushmaster with most of the same issues.

[smitty81]

What's your point?

I was basically telling him not to be scared of the recoil from a 12 gauger. It isn't that bad.

I'm sorry so many of you took offense to my post, it wasn't meant to be degrading. I was just telling him that the recoil isn't as bad as it seems.

[Blueface]

I was basically telling him not to be scared of the recoil from a 12 gauger. It isn't that bad.

I'm sorry so many of you took offense to my post, it wasn't meant to be degrading. I was just telling him that the recoil isn't as bad as it seems.

No worries.
Life is too short.:D

I am not worried for me as I am gradually finding the bigger the caliber, the more I enjoy it. I am sure it won't be an issue for me, although not something I will enjoy shooting a 100 rounds in an hour.
My concern is my wife. I really don't think she is anywhere close yet to taking that on. I rather get other weapons now and in time, as her comfort level increases, go back to looking at a 12 gauge.

[smitty81]

No worries.
Life is too short.:D

I am not worried for me as I am gradually finding the bigger the caliber, the more I enjoy it. I am sure it won't be an issue for me, although not something I will enjoy shooting a 100 rounds in an hour.
My concern is my wife. I really don't think she is anywhere close yet to taking that on. I rather get other weapons now and in time, as her comfort level increases, go back to looking at a 12 gauge.

Get her a 20 Gauge, she can shoot it all day.:tu

[emopunker2004]

Dude my wife is 5'1" and can shoot a 12ga without a problem

[TRicker]

No worries.
Life is too short.:D

I am not worried for me as I am gradually finding the bigger the caliber, the more I enjoy it. I am sure it won't be an issue for me, although not something I will enjoy shooting a 100 rounds in an hour.
My concern is my wife. I really don't think she is anywhere close yet to taking that on. I rather get other weapons now and in time, as her comfort level increases, go back to looking at a 12 gauge.

Totally understandable, There is a big difference between being able to shoot something and being comfortable shooting something. My wife never touched a gun before a month ago. If I had handed her my 12 gauge and said you can easily handle this, a 5'1" 100 lb women can, she would have shot it once and never gone back with me. I started her on my 9mm, and .22 pistols. The next time we went to the range, she asked me to bring my ar15 and 357 magnum! Better to go slow and let her tell you when she's ready.(That sounded pretty dirty!)

[emopunker2004]

:r:r:r

[Digs]

Get her a 20 Gauge, she can shoot it all day.:tu

Rather then go 20 gauge, I would look into a semi like the 1187 Remington. Less kick because you have the action absorb the recoil, my 11 year old daughter can handle me 12 gauge 1187 all day long.

[Brian D.]

Taking my .308/7.62 x 51 AR-10 out today to see how it shoots at 200 yds. and beyond. Had the thing a couple months now and hadn't managed to try it out beyond about 40 yards.

[emopunker2004]

The EDC. Gun and the new knife

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7358310372_4376c71e8f_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7358310372/)
DSC_3809 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7358310372/) by thestemens16 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7234/7173084625_e08651d0d1_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7173084625/)
DSC_3810 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7173084625/) by thestemens16 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

[Steve]

If Frank and the boys down south don't get the face-eating zombie issue resolved soon, this may become my next EDC

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc3/M249.jpg

:banger :D

[Ogre]

If Frank and the boys down south don't get the face-eating zombie issue resolved soon, this may become my next EDC

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc3/M249.jpg

:banger :D

Amen Brother!!!!!

[emopunker2004]

Steve, just get a belt-fed .22lr machine gun. Head shot's a head shot :r

[Bill86]

Steve, just get a belt-fed .22lr machine gun. Head shot's a head shot :r

Yeah unless you're more than 20 feet away and they are wearing a baseball hat :r

[emopunker2004]

.22 WMR then

[Steve]

I believe that anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT. THis makes sure the dead are dead...forever!

:banger

[emopunker2004]

no doubt but you can carry more .22wmr than .223 or .308

[Steve]

But you will need more 22s than 223 :)

[emopunker2004]

nooo. a 22wmr to the head is good to go. Only way to kill a zombie anyway. Better take a nice big machete too :tu

like this Becker Machax

http://www.fightingknives.info/Portals/9/Knives%20A-G/Bark%20river%20BKT/bk%20machax%20proto%204.JPG

[Ashcan Bill]

It's been a while since I added anything to the collection. I thought I pretty much had everything I wanted. But ever since I played with one of these at a show, it's been in the back of my mind. I finally decided it was time to do something about it.

People either seem to love them or hate them. So far, color me in the love camp. :D

For anyone who hasn't seen one, it's a .410 / .45 Colt / .45 acp. Scandium frame with a SS cylinder.

I have plenty of .45, but no .410 other than a few I picked up with the gun. So I have a bunch on order. Once it comes in, it'll be time for a trip to the local desert shooting area.

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/wakohlmeier/Guv.jpg

[smitty81]

nooo. a 22wmr to the head is good to go. Only way to kill a zombie anyway. Better take a nice big machete too :tu

like this Becker Machax

http://www.fightingknives.info/Portals/9/Knives%20A-G/Bark%20river%20BKT/bk%20machax%20proto%204.JPG

+1

[theonlybear4CORT]

Haven't you seen the documentary 28 days later no machetes :confused::confused: you don't want zombie blood on you.

this http://www.bangshift.com/assets/images/news/2011/August/bobbed%20deuce.jpg with a ma deuce operator on the back
http://olive-drab.com/images/firearms_mg_m2_04.jpg
and of course I'll take my personal 1911 as back up
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa450/Dickhurts707/1911.jpg

[Ogre]

Had a trigger job done on Leighs 38. I cant believe the difference. Changed the main spring out from an 11lb pull to a 9 and put in a 6.5lb return spring. Had some polishing and cleaning done. Cant wait to take it to the range and test it.

[TJarv]

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af85/wakohlmeier/Guv.jpg

I want one:(

[Blueface]

Wife put her foot down and firmly threatened to kill me if I spent more than $1,000 on an AR.
Picked up the Smith and Wesson M&P15 from Bud's and shot it this weekend.
What a fun toy.
I thought I loved guns. Everyone should have an AR.
Will try to post photo.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Wife put her foot down and firmly threatened to kill me if I spent more than $1,000 on an AR.
Picked up the Smith and Wesson M&P15 from Bud's and shot it this weekend.
What a fun toy.
I thought I loved guns. Everyone should have an AR.
Will try to post photo.

I would love to see it Carlos

[Blueface]

This is the one I got.
Don't hacpve actual photos uploaded yet.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/f2c8a47f.jpg

[Blueface]

Picked up three extra Magpuls with windows/counter 30 rounds and a couple of 20 rounds.
Fired 150 rounds yesterday and had some fun cleaning and lubbing it.

[Blueface]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/fee24f78.jpg

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Very nice! What are your plans for add ons?

[Bill86]

Same AR I have, did the mags fit out of the package or did you have to alter them? I bought mine 3 years ago or so and none of the mags would fit out of the box. I had to take a metal file to each one and remove a significant amount of plastic before they would snap in nicely.

[Blueface]

Same AR I have, did the mags fit out of the package or did you have to alter them? I bought mine 3 years ago or so and none of the mags would fit out of the box. I had to take a metal file to each one and remove a significant amount of plastic before they would snap in nicely.

Fit right out of the package.
Used all of them yesterday flawlessly.
I had read about issues after ordered them and was worried but all is fine.

[Blueface]

Very nice! What are your plans for add ons?

:r
Wife is totally blindsided.
I kept my commitment. Just never told her of future plans.
Wish list:
Midwest/Yankee Hill or Troy Quad Rail (thinking of nine inch or so).
Laser
Grip with bipod
Scope - God only knows how many mortgage payments I will miss thanks to that.
Remove handle and add folding sights (Troy/Diamondhead, whatever :D)
Light, of course.

I am seriously going to die at wife's hands.

[Bill86]

Fit right out of the package.
Used all of them yesterday flawlessly.
I had read about issues after ordered them and was worried but all is fine.

:tu

You've got some fun shooting ahead of you.

[Blueface]

:tu

You've got some fun shooting ahead of you.

If I had not experienced it first hand yesterday, would not had believed it.
I would say it is like the fun of shooting my .380, 9 mm and .45, all at once.
Unreal how powerful, load yet minimal recoil.
Picked up 500 rounds over the weekend. 350 to go.:D

[Blueface]

I was made an excellent offer on this forum that I wish I could have jumped on but this purchase allowed me to meet budget and I got six months same as cash to boot.

[emopunker2004]

Nice.

FWIW Pmags are preferred by alot of the .mil guys overseas.

[Malazan]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/m60g/P1010829.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/m60g/P1010820.jpg

[Malazan]

Anyone here reload?

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/m60g/P1010435.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/m60g/P1010436.jpg

[emopunker2004]

I looked into reloading but that'll have to wait a bit for me

[Stevez]

Sweet gun! I love it. On my list. I have a Colt Special Combat that I love now, but that Dan Wesson is beautiful!!! Thanks for showing. Steve

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/m60g/P1010829.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/m60g/P1010820.jpg

[Blueface]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/m60g/P1010829.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w175/m60g/P1010820.jpg

1911

A must have on my wish list.
While I would love a Colt, I kind of like the Ruger for the price, if you can find it.
Someday. Sooner than my wife would like .:D

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Illinois is getting close to passing HB148, concealed carry, although I think it will be another year or two before it actually passes. Last try I think we were 2 or 3 votes from getting super majority, which is needed in Illinois because our Governor said he will veto the bill if if comes across his desk.. his pockets are lined from the Chicago machine.. Anyways, if it passes sooner, then I'm thinking of waiting longer on getting an AR15. I'll get two glocks in the fall and wait to get an AR later next year. Either way, I'm still hunting around for guns I want:r

[spectrrr]

wow.... never thought I'd see the day IL got close to a concealed carry... Who wants to bet it will still be illegal inside of Chicago? :/

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

wow.... never thought I'd see the day IL got close to a concealed carry... Who wants to bet it will still be illegal inside of Chicago? :/

Wouldn't surprise me:r We would have had this damn bill passed already, but our brainless but easily swayed by money governor vowed to veto the bill if it came across his desk, thus, super majority is needed.

[357]

Wouldn't surprise me:r We would have had this damn bill passed already, but our brainless but easily swayed by money governor vowed to veto the bill if it came across his desk, thus, super majority is needed.

Nate, but there's also the history of the other 40+ states who have concealed carry and how it turned them into Dodge City; bloodbaths in the streets. :rolleyes:

Good luck brother. I feel for you guys from IL.


BTW, nice 1911 Malazan

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Nate, but there's also the history of the other 40+ states who have concealed carry and how it turned them into Dodge City; bloodbaths in the streets. :rolleyes:

Good luck brother. I feel for you guys from IL.


BTW, nice 1911 Malazan


IIRC, we are the ONLY state that does not recognize the right to conceal carry.

[Bill86]

IIRC, we are the ONLY state that does not recognize the right to conceal carry.

Yep :td

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

[spectrrr]

Considering its possible I could end up living in Chicago in a year or two, I sure hope they get it passed!!!

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Considering its possible I could end up living in Chicago in a year or two, I sure hope they get it passed!!!

We are so close right now, I have a good feeling it will get passed next time it crosses the House floor. Just a shame we need super majority. Someone told me they will try again this fall.

[Cigarcop]

DPMS Mini SASS and some handloads at 100 yrds will shoot 3" groups at 600 all day long with the same load.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_1370.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_1368.jpg

[lilcgrsmkr]

DPMS Mini SASS and some handloads at 100 yrds will shoot 3" groups at 600 all day long with the same load.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_1370.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_1368.jpg

yeah! now you're talkin':)

[lilcgrsmkr]

ooooh.. never saw this forum... i like it! :)

[Cigarcop]

Anyone here reload?


I've been known to reload a bullet or two, even build a few rifles

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_1699.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_0147.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/threads2.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/counterbore.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/IMG_0139.jpg

[big a]

:tu Very impressive setup you got there!

[BC-Axeman]

I love tools. :dr

[lilcgrsmkr]

dang! that's kool:)

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

For the guys that have Glocks, what lights are you using on your pistols and why? I'm looking for a light that will fill up a room as much as possible.

[emopunker2004]

For the guys that have Glocks, what lights are you using on your pistols and why? I'm looking for a light that will fill up a room as much as possible.

The standard for our department is the Streamlight TLR-1 or TLR-1s
One of the best bangs for the buck, right around $100 or so.

[bonjing]

I agree with the above, I own a few surefire and streamlights and agree that the streamlight is the best bang for the buck. But I do prefer the activation options ont he surefire x300's a whole lot more.

The surefire can be activated by pushing on the lever for a momentary flash while the the streamlight you need to depress the lever for a momentary flash. It all comes down with what you are willing to train with.

Just remember with lights brighter isn't always better. You can end up blinding yourself too, especially if your very light sensitive.

I think the current x300's can be found for under 200 now

[spectrrr]

ALSO bear in mind in the hunt for ever higher lumens ratings that you need 4x the lumens to percieve 2x the increase. So practically speaking, if you have a choice between 160 lumens and 190 lumens for example, don't pick it based on the lumens, the perceptible increase is arguably negligible.

[SNKBYT]

bought a new toy a few months back, but been busy with less pleasurable issues as of late

original form.....38/357 Rossi Ranch Hand large loop
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/IMG_0076.jpg
then modified with small loop and a few internal upgrades
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/IMG_0040JPG2.jpg
new voodoo scabbard (shortest I could find)
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/IMG_0041JPG2.jpg
case style I searched for but didn't buy
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/IMG_0111.jpg

[lilcgrsmkr]

nice:)

[Steve]

I've been known to reload a bullet or two, even build a few rifles

:dr as always!

[issues]

Love that ranch hand Alex!!! :tu

[theonlybear4CORT]

Love the ranch hand! I reall want to get a marlin 45-70 this year.
http://fieldandstream.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/23/mfc_1895sbl.jpg

[lilcgrsmkr]

Love the ranch hand! I reall want to get a marlin 45-70 this year.
http://fieldandstream.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/23/mfc_1895sbl.jpg

nice:)-(P

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

The standard for our department is the Streamlight TLR-1 or TLR-1s
One of the best bangs for the buck, right around $100 or so.

I agree with the above, I own a few surefire and streamlights and agree that the streamlight is the best bang for the buck. But I do prefer the activation options ont he surefire x300's a whole lot more.

The surefire can be activated by pushing on the lever for a momentary flash while the the streamlight you need to depress the lever for a momentary flash. It all comes down with what you are willing to train with.

Just remember with lights brighter isn't always better. You can end up blinding yourself too, especially if your very light sensitive.

I think the current x300's can be found for under 200 now

ALSO bear in mind in the hunt for ever higher lumens ratings that you need 4x the lumens to percieve 2x the increase. So practically speaking, if you have a choice between 160 lumens and 190 lumens for example, don't pick it based on the lumens, the perceptible increase is arguably negligible.

Surefire's are really expensive lights. I'm going to look into some Streamlights. You guys prefer LED to bulb?

[TRicker]

I want a ranch hand so bad!!! But unfortunately live in Mass......

I hate this communist hole.

[SNKBYT]

I want a ranch hand so bad!!! But unfortunately live in Mass......

I hate this communist hole.

escape to the Northern Boarder.....they don't have extradition to the Peoples Republic of MA :D

[TRicker]

Trust me, I'm giving it the stinkeye! My family is all up in NH, VT and ME.

[bonjing]

Surefire's are really expensive lights. I'm going to look into some Streamlights. You guys prefer LED to bulb?

LED all the way! Not sure if they make weapon lights anymore that are halogen.
LED's take the abuse and last longer than the bulbs, downside is if something goes wrong it's not a simple replace the bulb, you gotta send it back to the manufacturer.

Look around, I've had good luck with LA Police Gear, sometimes they go on sale. I think I've seen them on sale for around $80 (TLR-1)

[Blueface]

Saw this in a magazine.
Anyone know who makes this and is it any good?
Certainly looks mean with those Hornady Critical Defense rounds tips sticking out like that.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/964bbd05.jpg

[spectrrr]

Saw this in a magazine.
Anyone know who makes this and is it any good?
Certainly looks mean with those Hornady Critical Defense rounds tips sticking out like that.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/964bbd05.jpg

It's called the Rhino, made by Chiappa Firearms (http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/75)

They're expensive, and I've heard it takes a bit to get used to shooting them, but supposed to be really nice to shoot, the under slung barrel really tames muzzle flip. Flat cylinder is supposed to make it easier for concealed carry, but the damned thing still looks pretty big :)

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

LED all the way! Not sure if they make weapon lights anymore that are halogen.
LED's take the abuse and last longer than the bulbs, downside is if something goes wrong it's not a simple replace the bulb, you gotta send it back to the manufacturer.

Look around, I've had good luck with LA Police Gear, sometimes they go on sale. I think I've seen them on sale for around $80 (TLR-1)

Thanks for the tip on LA Police Gear, decent prices there.

[Blueface]

It's called the Rhino, made by Chiappa Firearms (http://www.chiappafirearms.com/products/75)

They're expensive, and I've heard it takes a bit to get used to shooting them, but supposed to be really nice to shoot, the under slung barrel really tames muzzle flip. Flat cylinder is supposed to make it easier for concealed carry, but the damned thing still looks pretty big :)

Thanks.

Wow. That is a .357 Magnum. Not a tame animal in any sense of the word.

[Cigar Mike]

LED all the way!
LED's take the abuse and last longer than the bulbs, downside is if something goes wrong it's not a simple replace the bulb, you gotta send it back to the manufacturer.
I agree, more or less. The one major drawback, however, with LEDs is that when your batteries get weak, either due to use or just age, LED lights will just 'quit.' They don't dim, they just STOP. So, for home or personal defense purposes, if it's a light that might sit waiting for the Bad Guys, you could find yourself in a situation where you'd rather have a _dim_ halogen/incandescent light with weak batteries, than a _dead_ LED light with weak batteries. If it's a weapon that's anticipating immediate and frequent action and the corresponding maintenance, then LEDs are probably the way to go.

Kinda depends on it's intended use. The best intentions to stay prepared might be totally trumped by by a bad or old set of batts.
:2

[shaggy]

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj624/mike_u1/020.jpg
us canucks get to have a bit of fun too

[spectrrr]

I agree, more or less. The one major drawback, however, with LEDs is that when your batteries get weak, either due to use or just age, LED lights will just 'quit.' They don't dim, they just STOP. So, for home or personal defense purposes, if it's a light that might sit waiting for the Bad Guys, you could find yourself in a situation where you'd rather have a _dim_ halogen/incandescent light with weak batteries, than a _dead_ LED light with weak batteries. If it's a weapon that's anticipating immediate and frequent action and the corresponding maintenance, then LEDs are probably the way to go.

Kinda depends on it's intended use. The best intentions to stay prepared might be totally trumped by by a bad or old set of batts.
:2

Agreed, with a caveat -- A QUALITY LED light is usually much more efficient at using the power it as, so usually the level at which an incandescent dims halfway will still see the LED chugging along at max brightness (at least for a few more minutes). LED brightness and run times have gotten very good in recent years, and it is much more resistant to shock (assuming the electronics were put together well, that's LED's weak point).

But typically this falls under responsible maintenance of your firearm (and all associated components).

You want to be sure your batteries are lithium, and then you setup a replacement schedule appropriate for your usage. Replacing the battery *before* it becomes a problem is key here. So if you think the battery will need replacing every year, then do it every 6 months.

These days the technology gap has gotten a lot better, with rechargeable LSD (low self discharge) batteries like the Sanyo Eneloop becoming a viable alternative to ever buying an alkaline again. Rechargeable batteries, whether lithium or NMh, are great in a duty light that sees use every day (like the FourSevens Quark in my pocket), but if it's a light that sits unused, non-rechargeables lithiums are the best way to go, with a strict replacement schedule, just like when you take out the gun and oil and clean it. Lithium batteries have a VERY low self discharge rate, so it's perfectly reasonable to stuff them in your light, come back in a year, and still be pretty close to full power. Make it an easy day to remember, like your birthday, and you know that "today I need to go change the batteries in the defense lights."

:2 :2 :2

[Bageland2000]

Looking forward to getting my S&W M&P 9mm with night sights in a few weeks. Will post picks when I get my first gun.

[Steve]

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc3/Love.jpg

[TJarv]

Got this as a gift today

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r552/TJarv/IMAG02341.jpg

[LockOut]

looking at a new nano. Anyone had oen yet. tired of carrying a 229 in the heat.

[Blueface]

looking at a new nano. Anyone had oen yet. tired of carrying a 229 in the heat.

Saw them at the shop at the range today.
Son is interested in one.

All I can say is they had a brand new one and two used ones.
What shop has a relatively new gun in the market where greater supply is used v. new.
It certainly made mynson think.

[Blueface]

Got this as a gift today

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r552/TJarv/IMAG02341.jpg

Sweet.
Is that vintage or new?

[TJarv]

It's the New Vaquero

[theonlybear4CORT]

Bad @$$ ruger!

[Malazan]

Got this as a gift today

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r552/TJarv/IMAG02341.jpg

Nice, a Vaquero:noon

Are you into Cowboy Action or SASS

[TJarv]

Nope just got it for fun

[Stevez]

Guys, I have always wanted to buy a Colt Single Action Army and have been searching for some time for exactly what I wanted. Anyway, took the plunge this past Friday and ordered one directly from the Colt's Custom shop. Ordered a Colt SAA Peacemaker in nickel, 45 caliber with Ivory grips. Now the wait begins. 250 days estimated. I'll post some pictures when I get it. Steve

[TJarv]

Guys, I have always wanted to buy a Colt Single Action Army and have been searching for some time for exactly what I wanted. Anyway, took the plunge this past Friday and ordered one directly from the Colt's Custom shop. Ordered a Colt SAA Peacemaker in nickel, 45 caliber with Ivory grips. Now the wait begins. 250 days estimated. I'll post some pictures when I get it. Steve

That's what I really wanted just couldn't squeeze that into the budget

[0002S]

M1895 Nagant
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/1%20Man%20Cave/NagantM18952.jpg

TT-33 Tokarev
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/1%20Man%20Cave/TT33Tokarev.jpg

M57 Yugo
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/1%20Man%20Cave/M57YugoTokarev.jpg

CZ-50
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/1%20Man%20Cave/CZ50Czech.jpg

CZ-52
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/1%20Man%20Cave/CZ52Czech.jpg

[0002S]

CZ-82
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/1%20Man%20Cave/CZ82Czech.jpg

P64
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/1%20Man%20Cave/P64Polish.jpg

[Stevez]

Understand fully; probably too much, but I've always wanted one and saved for it for some time. Probably be my only one, but that's ok.

That's what I really wanted just couldn't squeeze that into the budget

[emopunker2004]

looking at a new nano. Anyone had oen yet. tired of carrying a 229 in the heat.

Tom I too was looking at the Nano a while back. I wound up going for the Kahr CM9 though because of some of the issues I was reading about on the nano. Too me the nano was just too new for me. I usually like to sit back a while and let the company fix issues that come up after launch. :2

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8164/7358310372_4376c71e8f_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7358310372/)
DSC_3809 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/7358310372/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

[Blueface]

Guys, I have always wanted to buy a Colt Single Action Army and have been searching for some time for exactly what I wanted. Anyway, took the plunge this past Friday and ordered one directly from the Colt's Custom shop. Ordered a Colt SAA Peacemaker in nickel, 45 caliber with Ivory grips. Now the wait begins. 250 days estimated. I'll post some pictures when I get it. Steve

Sweet!!!
Someday for me.

[TJarv]

Just left a local dealer who is on the hunt for a few toys for me, I'll post pics if he comes through

[LockOut]

I recently went out and bought a 229 in 22lr to go with my 229 that I carry every day. Being sig; I assumed that it would run flawless, and it was a bonus to me that in the future I could call sig and order a 229 upper and have another complete fire arm. At this point I'm really disappointed in it, a first for a sig in my world.

First it doesn't lock back after the mag runs dry, not a deal breaker but annoying. And I'm worried that I'm already starting to get a peening mark on the receiver from the rim fire mechanism hitting it after I run it dry.Not a deal breaker, and yea if I had done more research on the gun likley would have known ahead of time, but really sig? everyone else got their guns to do this and you cant?

At this point I have ~1000 rounds of 22lr through the gun hoping it would break in. I am continuing to have a multitude of problems with FTF. I have run 5 kinds of ammo (federal bulk, federal lighting, CCI hyper-velocity something or other, Remington thunderbolts, and Winchester bulk) and with every ammo am having this failure to feed problem where it crams the round into the upper portion of the chamber jamming the weapon. At times it has done it so badly it has almost bent the round it half. I have run the 22lr kit on both my 229 lowers and appears to make no difference. No if this was a once of twice thing no big deal, i understand its a 22lr. But when this has happened easily ~100 times out of ~1000 rounds, we have an issue. Below are pictures of whats happening.


Does anyone have any suggestions or at this point is it time to call sig and see what they say. I have heard they have great customer service, never have needed to use it though, all my other sigs run like tops.



http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2227/20120712164804777.jpg
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5308/20120712164932155.jpg
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[Bill86]

For what it's worth the Walther .22 is no better. Plenty of FTF, jams, and I hear dry firing it ruins the gun. I never shoot .22's anyways but yeah not impressed.

[LockOut]

I have one of the new 22/45 LITE's on order, since they were announced. not that my dealer can find one. and rumors are ruger is 1 million guns behind and isnt taking orders.



sigh.......

[Poronico]

Run the gun wet and run CCI super sonics and you will run flawless. I had the same problem with my Mosquito running winchester bulk ammo.
I recently went out and bought a 229 in 22lr to go with my 229 that I carry every day. Being sig; I assumed that it would run flawless, and it was a bonus to me that in the future I could call sig and order a 229 upper and have another complete fire arm. At this point I'm really disappointed in it, a first for a sig in my world.

First it doesn't lock back after the mag runs dry, not a deal breaker but annoying. And I'm worried that I'm already starting to get a peening mark on the receiver from the rim fire mechanism hitting it after I run it dry.Not a deal breaker, and yea if I had done more research on the gun likley would have known ahead of time, but really sig? everyone else got their guns to do this and you cant?

At this point I have ~1000 rounds of 22lr through the gun hoping it would break in. I am continuing to have a multitude of problems with FTF. I have run 5 kinds of ammo (federal bulk, federal lighting, CCI hyper-velocity something or other, Remington thunderbolts, and Winchester bulk) and with every ammo am having this failure to feed problem where it crams the round into the upper portion of the chamber jamming the weapon. At times it has done it so badly it has almost bent the round it half. I have run the 22lr kit on both my 229 lowers and appears to make no difference. No if this was a once of twice thing no big deal, i understand its a 22lr. But when this has happened easily ~100 times out of ~1000 rounds, we have an issue. Below are pictures of whats happening.


Does anyone have any suggestions or at this point is it time to call sig and see what they say. I have heard they have great customer service, never have needed to use it though, all my other sigs run like tops.



http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2227/20120712164804777.jpg
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5308/20120712164932155.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3686/20120712165337870.jpg

[jluck]

I don't care for ammo sensitive guns. If the thing wont shoot, send it back for refund or repair.
:2


such a pretty gun...what a shame.

[jsnake]

I got my AR lower in and put most of it together. Waiting to do the buffer tube assembly until I get different extended take down pins.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/jaamkrell/photo1-4.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/jaamkrell/photo2-2.jpg

[emopunker2004]

I recently went out and bought a 229 in 22lr to go with my 229 that I carry every day. Being sig; I assumed that it would run flawless, and it was a bonus to me that in the future I could call sig and order a 229 upper and have another complete fire arm. At this point I'm really disappointed in it, a first for a sig in my world.

First it doesn't lock back after the mag runs dry, not a deal breaker but annoying. And I'm worried that I'm already starting to get a peening mark on the receiver from the rim fire mechanism hitting it after I run it dry.Not a deal breaker, and yea if I had done more research on the gun likley would have known ahead of time, but really sig? everyone else got their guns to do this and you cant?

At this point I have ~1000 rounds of 22lr through the gun hoping it would break in. I am continuing to have a multitude of problems with FTF. I have run 5 kinds of ammo (federal bulk, federal lighting, CCI hyper-velocity something or other, Remington thunderbolts, and Winchester bulk) and with every ammo am having this failure to feed problem where it crams the round into the upper portion of the chamber jamming the weapon. At times it has done it so badly it has almost bent the round it half. I have run the 22lr kit on both my 229 lowers and appears to make no difference. No if this was a once of twice thing no big deal, i understand its a 22lr. But when this has happened easily ~100 times out of ~1000 rounds, we have an issue. Below are pictures of whats happening.


Does anyone have any suggestions or at this point is it time to call sig and see what they say. I have heard they have great customer service, never have needed to use it though, all my other sigs run like tops.



http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2227/20120712164804777.jpg
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5308/20120712164932155.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3686/20120712165337870.jpg


I owned a Sig Mosquito and the only ammo it liked consistently was CCI MiniMags

[Steve]

I don't care for ammo sensitive guns. If the thing wont shoot, send it back for refund or repair.

Gotta say I agree

:2:2

[Poronico]

Unfortunately there is no repair for that weapon without severely lightening the slide by removing metal like the Glock slide. It is simply a range gun which is actually very good for fail to fire training and recovery. I try to see the silver lining to everything :noon

I don't care for ammo sensitive guns. If the thing wont shoot, send it back for refund or repair.
:2


such a pretty gun...what a shame.

[jluck]

Unfortunately there is no repair for that weapon without severely lightening the slide by removing metal like the Glock slide. It is simply a range gun which is actually very good for fail to fire training and recovery. I try to see the silver lining to everything :noon
I'd bet you could find some good deals out there if you are in to flawed or unreliable guns.;)

[Bax]

I got my AR lower in and put most of it together. Waiting to do the buffer tube assembly until I get different extended take down pins.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/jaamkrell/photo1-4.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a91/jaamkrell/photo2-2.jpg

I love the grip engraving!:banger

[emopunker2004]

I love the grip engraving!:banger

It's pretty much on the reciever too which makes it :banger X2!

[jsnake]

It's pretty much on the reciever too which makes it :banger X2!
What until you guys see the rest. I will update soon.

[363]

hey thought all you hand gun guys might like these cases I saw, they are for tablets but they can be multi-purposed right?
http://www.pelicanprogear.com/product/Pelican-ProGear-U140-Urban-Elite-Tablet-Backpack/elite-backpacks

[spectrrr]

love that lower engraving :)