First Firearm Thread.

[Chainsaw13]

I don't but you'd be better off asking over on Glock talk or the subforum on ar15.com There are several conversions and I know one was mentioned being the best but I don't know which. You got a lot of .22lr? If not, that's had to find right now too it seems.

Thanks. There's two I've seen. Advantage Arms (better of the two from what I can discern) and Tactical Solutions. Price is around $300-350 for the kit, if you can find one. At that price, I could get a new pistol, but I like the idea of shooting my Glock to develop a rhythm with it. As for having any .22lr. I have some, but not much. And you're right, good luck finding any.

[Chainsaw13]

So I did a search on glock talk and found a lot of good info. Looks like I'll order one. Now to find ammo.

[spectrrr]

I got lucky and picked up 1500 rounds of the CCI tactical stuff (the stuff they test for the 15.22 platforms). Wishing I picked up double that now!

[emopunker2004]

yeh. cci minimag has always worked the best for me in any 22

[jluck]

converted my 10/22TD to a wooden stock (using a dremel tool)
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z20/CSMMH07/IMG_0240_zpsab6dfdce.jpg


Nice Alex! I am trying to get a decent deal on a pistol grip type stock for my take down to do similar.

[spectrrr]

:wo finally!

Couple lowers arriving Wednesday after nearly a month. One's getting built into my personal gun... thinking about selling the other one... we'll see what the quality looks like on em..

[bonjing]

The New T4 from Nighthawk

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0097_zps115ddb88-1_zps16aba7ee.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0097_zps115ddb88-1_zps16aba7ee.jpg.html)

Sig's P227 double stack .45
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0094_zps82d6575b-1_zps038e9526.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0094_zps82d6575b-1_zps038e9526.jpg.html)

I don't know what it was, but it was delicious

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0091_zps72b627ff.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0091_zps72b627ff.jpg.html)

[Blueface]

The New T4 from Nighthawk

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0097_zps115ddb88-1_zps16aba7ee.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0097_zps115ddb88-1_zps16aba7ee.jpg.html)

Sig's P227 double stack .45
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0094_zps82d6575b-1_zps038e9526.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0094_zps82d6575b-1_zps038e9526.jpg.html)

I don't know what it was, but it was delicious

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0091_zps72b627ff.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0091_zps72b627ff.jpg.html)

Nice guns.
That looks like good quality prosciutto.

[spectrrr]

The New T4 from Nighthawk

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0097_zps115ddb88-1_zps16aba7ee.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0097_zps115ddb88-1_zps16aba7ee.jpg.html)

Sig's P227 double stack .45
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0094_zps82d6575b-1_zps038e9526.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0094_zps82d6575b-1_zps038e9526.jpg.html)

I don't know what it was, but it was delicious

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0091_zps72b627ff.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0091_zps72b627ff.jpg.html)

mmmm, that T4 is gorgeous :tu

[spectrrr]

Nice guns.
That looks like good quality prosciutto.

+1

[bonjing]

From the crazy guys at Magpul

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0098_zpsb451f0b7.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0098_zpsb451f0b7.jpg.html)

From the guys at CZ

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0088_zpse607c0b5.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0088_zpse607c0b5.jpg.html)

From the guys at DSA

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0089_zps156dfa9f.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0089_zps156dfa9f.jpg.html)

[elderboy02]

Getting a new gun safe tonight. http://www.menards.com/main/p-1908092-c-6977.htm

It is $599.99 and then it has a $100 main in rebate, so $499 when all is said and done :tu

It will be an improvement because right now I just have a cheap Stack-On safe that doesn't have fire protection.

[elderboy02]

From the crazy guys at Magpul

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0098_zpsb451f0b7.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0098_zpsb451f0b7.jpg.html)
..

:r Awesome! :tu

[spectrrr]

From the crazy guys at Magpul

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0098_zpsb451f0b7.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0098_zpsb451f0b7.jpg.html)


:r

that's epic :tu

[spectrrr]

Getting a new gun safe tonight. http://www.menards.com/main/p-1908092-c-6977.htm

It is $599.99 and then it has a $100 main in rebate, so $499 when all is said and done :tu

It will be an improvement because right now I just have a cheap Stack-On safe that doesn't have fire protection.

Nice Dan. I love mine, it's great peace of mind (although that fire protection won't help if the house is burning for toooo long, or protect it from water. Friend found that out... then had to have a locksmith drill it!)

[Islayphile]

The New T4 from Nighthawk

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0097_zps115ddb88-1_zps16aba7ee.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0097_zps115ddb88-1_zps16aba7ee.jpg.html)

Sig's P227 double stack .45
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0094_zps82d6575b-1_zps038e9526.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0094_zps82d6575b-1_zps038e9526.jpg.html)

I don't know what it was, but it was delicious

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj40/bonjing_album/th_IMG_0091_zps72b627ff.jpg (http://s268.beta.photobucket.com/user/bonjing_album/media/IMG_0091_zps72b627ff.jpg.html)



:wo

To all

[bonjing]

Nice Dan. I love mine, it's great peace of mind (although that fire protection won't help if the house is burning for toooo long, or protect it from water. Friend found that out... then had to have a locksmith drill it!)

How bad was everything inside? Any pictures? I'm lucky I live within 1/2 mile of the local station but i still went with fire protection.

[SNKBYT]

Nice Alex! I am trying to get a decent deal on a pistol grip type stock for my take down to do similar.

was going to do this with a BUTLER CREEK but once cut the forearm had no support (hollow) also make sure to keep the screw guide from the plastic forearm (you'll need it for the conversion forearm screw.........good luck

[spectrrr]

How bad was everything inside? Any pictures? I'm lucky I live within 1/2 mile of the local station but i still went with fire protection.

No pics, I don't remember all the details, happened about 15 years ago. Coincidentally, my friend lived 200tds from the local station too!

I think he had some minor problems with heat, but most of his problem was the water that got in from the firemen and then the 48ish hours afterwards before the locksmith was able to get it open, as far as I can remember...

[jluck]

I'm looking for a AR stripped flat top upper or possibly a complete upper with a 16" or shorter barrel if any of Y'all end up with extras to sell.

[Blueface]

No pics, I don't remember all the details, happened about 15 years ago. Coincidentally, my friend lived 200tds from the local station too!

I think he had some minor problems with heat, but most of his problem was the water that got in from the firemen and then the 48ish hours afterwards before the locksmith was able to get it open, as far as I can remember...

Francis,
I am fortunate to have an awesome safe supplier near me who did a great job of educating me on the differences in safes. He has a collection of brands, mostly higher end and also the lower end ones.
In the back of the store, he has a collection of them for display of what can happen to them.
Once you see those compromised/damaged safes, it makes the selection process so much simpler.

Here is his website as I think there is a decent video on there for education.
http://cesafes.com/

[spectrrr]

If you want to build it from the ground up, Midway has a stripped flat top upper for $109, be about $126 after you add in the forward assist and ejection port cover (all in stock)

If you want to go the SBR route, I have a Daniel Defense 12.5" barrel which they mistakenly sent me, I'm sending it back tomorrow, but you're welcome to it for whatever I paid (I think $279) -- you'll still need a barrel nut, gas block/tube, and hand guard.

Charging handles are still readily available, $20-$45

The bolt carrier group is a B!TCH to find right now. Single hardest part to locate, more so than lowers.

Otherwise, I've seen Palmetto sporadically getting in a few 16" uppers for sale in the last few days. But over course, You're looking it probably a 4-5 weeks shipping delay from them. I ordered a 16" upper minus BCG from them on 12/31 and am still waiting for shipment. (they're good people, they'll ship, just taking a while)

[spectrrr]

Francis,
I am fortunate to have an awesome safe supplier near me who did a great job of educating me on the differences in safes. He has a collection of brands, mostly higher end and also the lower end ones.
In the back of the store, he has a collection of them for display of what can happen to them.
Once you see those compromised/damaged safes, it makes the selection process so much simpler.

Here is his website as I think there is a decent video on there for education.
http://cesafes.com/

good video there :tu

[spectrrr]

I'm looking for a AR stripped flat top upper or possibly a complete upper with a 16" or shorter barrel if any of Y'all end up with extras to sell.

LOL.... Aim Surplus had a 16" spikes midlength COMLETE upper, BCG and all, upper for $500, theoretically.

It got posted on slick guns. Site went down 2 minutes later and hasn't come back up :r

[spectrrr]

LOL.... Aim Surplus had a 16" spikes midlength COMLETE upper, BCG and all, upper for $500, theoretically.

It got posted on slick guns. Site went down 2 minutes later and hasn't come back up :r

:noon

It took an HOUR of trying, but I got one!!!!!

Special Ops Tactical 16" Midlength .223/5.56 Upper Receiver Group, INCLUDES BCG, no handguard
$543 after shipping and tax! (just my luck on the tax, but still, not complaining).

EXACTLY what I was looking for, a 16" midlength. I'd never heard of special ops tactical, but apparently it's run by a former Spike's guy, and its GTG gear. So I can officially stop collecting parts now! well, almost.. Just gotta get 13-15" FF handguard for it....

[jluck]

:noon

It took an HOUR of trying, but I got one!!!!!

Special Ops Tactical 16" Midlength .223/5.56 Upper Receiver Group, INCLUDES BCG, no handguard
$543 after shipping and tax! (just my luck on the tax, but still, not complaining).

EXACTLY what I was looking for, a 16" midlength. I'd never heard of special ops tactical, but apparently it's run by a former Spike's guy, and its GTG gear. So I can officially stop collecting parts now! well, almost.. Just gotta get 13-15" FF handguard for it....

Nice! I don't really have the extra coin to toss around Right now or I'd be there!

[spectrrr]

Nice! I don't really have the extra coin to toss around Right now or I'd be there!

I'll have to sell some other AR stuff I was messing with, including a 16" carbine I had settled for, but this will be nicer, simpler, and cheaper in the end.

[bonjing]

Woohoo, nice little surprise today, my Dec madness upper came from PSA!

[emopunker2004]

Woohoo, nice little surprise today, my Dec madness upper came from PSA!

:tu:tu
Good deal! I love my PSA midlength upper I have on my AR

[spectrrr]

New lower for my 3gun AR is in :D :D

http://i.imgur.com/LvQagQJl.jpg

[bonjing]

Nice, engraving looks cool! But what is it?

[emopunker2004]

Nice. Billet? Is that a flying penis on it?

[spectrrr]

:r

two down, no takers yet. I was curious how many folks here would get it :r

[spectrrr]

flip it around and I could see it would make a very good uhh, nevermind....

[ambientboy]

Captain Tight Pants!! Did you name her Vera?


New lower for my 3gun AR is in :D :D

http://i.imgur.com/LvQagQJl.jpg

[ambientboy]

Here's my Glock 30SF (NSFW!!! ...no seriously): http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g469/danielrwelch/Boudoir/CZ103w.jpg


Here's my Sig SP2022 9mm (NSFW!!!):
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g469/danielrwelch/Boudoir/CZ104w.jpg

Oh, that's my friend Callie, btw. She's awesome.

So I did a shoot with a model:

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g469/danielrwelch/Kins103w_zpsb8b8ea7e.jpg

She asked if I had any other weapons to shoot with, so I couldn't resist:

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g469/danielrwelch/kinsbang_zps3e6982ba.jpg

And here SAFE FOR WORK, is my newest baby. I call her Cyhyraeth. She is a Kimber Pro Carry II and she will have bloodwood grips and engraving within the next month. Break-in period just ended, and I'm getting a custom shoulder rig made by these guys: www.liiondefense.com

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g469/danielrwelch/cyhyraeth101_zpse1741c41.jpeg

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g469/danielrwelch/cyhyraeth105_zpsf8c7b472.jpeg

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g469/danielrwelch/cyhyraeth103_zps4931c0a5.jpeg

[MurphysLaw]

Great looking Kimber, I looked at the Pro Carry hard before I bought my Eclipse Pro :tu

[spectrrr]

Captain Tight Pants!! Did you name her Vera?

:r I haven't settled on a name yet. Vera was definitely an option :D
I wasn't sure how the engraving would turn out, it was a pretty intricate image, and I didn't want anything "too" obvious, more like a subtle inside joke. But I think it went well, can't wait to for the upper and grips to arrive next week.

Nice Pro Carry there :tu
My Ultra Carry II has a bit of wear, but still shoots great.

[Robulous78]

I was all about too be like, WE WANT PICTURES, WE WANT PICTURES till I saw Francis's new Lower and Dan's new Kimber... :tu Nice pick ups guys...




I wish I had model friends... :bhd

[Steve]

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Locked%20For%20YOUR%20Protection.jpg

[big pete]

Picked up a DSA lower today for a reasonable price to start my 9mm AR build (which will take quite a while to finish the way the market is) :noon

[bonjing]

Congrats Pete! Which block are you going with?

[spectrrr]

Picked up a DSA lower today for a reasonable price to start my 9mm AR build (which will take quite a while to finish the way the market is) :noon

As long as you have time and a few months to wait, shouldn't be too hard. things are slowly starting to trickle back into supply (that or I'm getting better at finding the parts I want :r)

[big pete]

Not really in a rush but I hope to have most of it together within 3 months (fingers crossed)

Congrats Pete! Which block are you going with?

Not sure yet. Still trying to make a list (but do have my eyes on the CMMG upper). Is there one that you would recommend?

[spectrrr]

Not really in a rush but I hope to have most of it together within 3 months (fingers crossed)


Here's a moderately priced lower parts kit, minus the stock, for $75
http://www.slickguns.com/product/ar-15-lower-parts-kit-7495

[big pete]

Saw that earlier. How are they?

[Robulous78]

wrong thread post.... :fp2

[big pete]

Get out!!

[Blueface]

While I have two ARs, aside from shooting them, my knowledge is limited to the breakdown for cleaning.
I am curious as to what it takes to build one and why so many go that route v. buying one from a major manufacturer. Some of the prices on parts I see seem to add up to more than one already built.
What exactly is the list of parts one would need aside from an upper, lower and lower parts kit?

[bonjing]

While I have two ARs, aside from shooting them, my knowledge is limited to the breakdown for cleaning.
I am curious as to what it takes to build one and why so many go that route v. buying one from a major manufacturer. Some of the prices on parts I see seem to add up to more than one already built.
What exactly is the list of parts one would need aside from an upper, lower and lower parts kit?

an armorers tool and some roll pin punches. If you want to get it right a torque wrench and a vise and receiver blocks.

[jsnake]

While I have two ARs, aside from shooting them, my knowledge is limited to the breakdown for cleaning.
I am curious as to what it takes to build one and why so many go that route v. buying one from a major manufacturer. Some of the prices on parts I see seem to add up to more than one already built.
What exactly is the list of parts one would need aside from an upper, lower and lower parts kit?
Building is fun and you can spend more on upgrades over time without dropping a ton of cash. You need:
Upper
Lower
LPK
Buffer
Buffer tube
Buffer spring
Butt stock
Bolt carrier group
Ejection port cover
Charging handle
Barrel
Barrel nut
Gas block
Gas tube
Muzzle brake
Sights
Various tools

[Blueface]

Building is fun and you can spend more on upgrades over time without dropping a ton of cash. You need:
Upper
Lower
LPK
Buffer
Buffer tube
Buffer spring
Butt stock
Bolt carrier group
Ejection port cover
Charging handle
Barrel
Barrel nut
Gas block
Gas tube
Muzzle brake
Sights
Various tools

Wow.
What did an upper and a lower go for before this mess started?

[Chainsaw13]

Went to Cabelas Monday to see what they might have left. Plus just to kill the afternoon. Surprisingly they had the Tactical Solutions .22lr Glock conversion kit on hand and for my model. $380 though, ouch. So I bought this instead. Sig Mosquito in OD green. Also found ammo locally for it, so I've got my cheapo range plinking setup.

[bonjing]

Not really in a rush but I hope to have most of it together within 3 months (fingers crossed)



Not sure yet. Still trying to make a list (but do have my eyes on the CMMG upper). Is there one that you would recommend?

I went with the RRA block but you can go Hahn. Mine is basically a complete RRA built by me. I've gotten lucky with my AR-9, from the research I did I found 9mm conversions to be finicky and take some tweaking to run right. Mine worked when I put it together so I am not doing anymore tweaking to it, for now. I plan on getting the bolt ramped so I can run a Geissele trigger in it.

It's an old read but this is where I got started:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_15/108261_9mm_AR_FAQ.html

[bonjing]

Wow.
What did an upper and a lower go for before this mess started?

You could still find complete quality stuff for well under $1000. Building takes more time and you get to know your rifle better. I went the build route because I can put what I wanted on it from the get go and not end up with a ton of left over parts that I had no use for, that was the idea. I still ended up with parts that I have no use for, but now they are turning to more rifles.

[big pete]

I went with the RRA block but you can go Hahn. Mine is basically a complete RRA built by me. I've gotten lucky with my AR-9, from the research I did I found 9mm conversions to be finicky and take some tweaking to run right. Mine worked when I put it together so I am not doing anymore tweaking to it, for now. I plan on getting the bolt ramped so I can run a Geissele trigger in it.

It's an old read but this is where I got started:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_15/108261_9mm_AR_FAQ.html

Too much info/options...my head is going to explode....

[jsnake]

Wow.
What did an upper and a lower go for before this mess started?Stripped upper and lower were in the $125 to $150 range each. Palmetto State Armory had deals for $79 lowers all the time.

My best advice is this. Buy a lower. That is the "gun" and the controlled piece. If they ban AR's that is the part that will be banned. Manufacturers will still make other parts.

Building really isn't that hard.

[spectrrr]

Saw that earlier. How are they?
Don't know, sorry. Shipping is reasonably fast though. I ordered a LPK and stock from them on 1/3 and it shipped on 1/15. I ordered one from Palmetto that same day, and it still hasn't shipped (but they shipped a 12/31 order to me today, so maybe by Monday the PSA LPK will ship)

I haven't installed the Core15 one yet, and I don't have enough experience to tell the quality just by looking. From reputation, they're decent quality. perfectly fine rifles, maybe a tad overpriced which lends folks to choose other more competitive offerings. But overall, GTG for the right price. Quality on them is fine. Apparently it's a bunch of ex-bushmaster guys running the show over there.



Went to Cabelas Monday to see what they might have left. Plus just to kill the afternoon. Surprisingly they had the Tactical Solutions .22lr Glock conversion kit on hand and for my model. $380 though, ouch. So I bought this instead. Sig Mosquito in OD green. Also found ammo locally for it, so I've got my cheapo range plinking setup.

Nice pick up :tu
I've been trying to justify a Mosquito in Black for a while now, but I've got the Ruger Mark III, and I can't talk myself into both at the moment.

[big pete]

Don't know, sorry. Shipping is reasonably fast though. I ordered a LPK and stock from them on 1/3 and it shipped on 1/15. I ordered one from Palmetto that same day, and it still hasn't shipped (but they shipped a 12/31 order to me today, so maybe by Monday the PSA LPK will ship)

I haven't installed the Core15 one yet, and I don't have enough experience to tell the quality just by looking. From reputation, they're decent quality. perfectly fine rifles, maybe a tad overpriced which lends folks to choose other more competitive offerings. But overall, GTG for the right price. Quality on them is fine. Apparently it's a bunch of ex-bushmaster guys running the show over there. .

Sounds good. Ordered one. Good thing I did since they were sold out about an hr later

[CigarSquid]

What are your guys thought on carry, concealed at a friends house? Wither they are pro guns, semi gun pro or anti guns?

[emopunker2004]

While I have two ARs, aside from shooting them, my knowledge is limited to the breakdown for cleaning.
I am curious as to what it takes to build one and why so many go that route v. buying one from a major manufacturer. Some of the prices on parts I see seem to add up to more than one already built.
What exactly is the list of parts one would need aside from an upper, lower and lower parts kit?

1) because it's easy
2) it'll give you a better knowledge of your AR and how to repair it without a gun smith.

AR15 build guide: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/226782_.html

[emopunker2004]

What are your guys thought on carry, concealed at a friends house? Wither they are pro guns, semi gun pro or anti guns?

It's their property and in that respect you should ask them. That said, concealed is concealed...

[spectrrr]

What are your guys thought on carry, concealed at a friends house? Wither they are pro guns, semi gun pro or anti guns?

Always an interesting question. I think it comes down to the people.

Sometimes, you know the guy, you know his stance clear as day. If you know he carries in his house, odds are you can too. Unless you're an irresponsible ****, then he's not going to want you and a gun anywhere near his family :)

If you know they're very anti-gun, odds are you need new friends, err, I mean, you should respect their rights in their own home and not carry.

For the inbetween'ers... it's a judgement call. Some I would ask and respect their answer. For some, well, it's CONCEALED carry, and I carry mine DEEP, and I'm not there for drinking... so I won't ask. But if I think there's any chance they would be offended, I'll ask, or just leave it in the car.

Sometimes, you see a very different dynamic in families. I've seen a number of pro-gun husbands and gun-neutral wives, where the wife accepts and TRUSTS her husband's use of a firearm, but would not be so likely to trust anyone else in her home with a gun, regardless of whether she knows you or not. And if she's got children running around, that sentiment only gets stronger.
(My fiance is anti-gun, and this is most likely the stance she will take in our house as well - trusting ME with a gun is grudgingly accepted, and is a very different thing than trusting someone else with one.)

[spectrrr]

1) because it's easy
2) it'll give you a better knowledge of your AR and how to repair it without a gun smith.

AR15 build guide: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/226782_.html

And if you want your hand held even more, this has pretty good reviews. Currently sold out, saw it run through on slickguns a week or two back.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ZZDYDG/ref=oh_details_o07_s01_i00

[spectrrr]

Midway has genuine Glock 17 mags in stock for $25 (NOT the korean ones)
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/538434/glock-magazine-glock-17-34-9mm-luger-17-round-polymer-black

[ambientboy]

What are your guys thought on carry, concealed at a friends house? Wither they are pro guns, semi gun pro or anti guns?

I think it depends on what their stance and comfort levels are. I mean, concealed is concealed. When I CC, no one knows it's on me unless I WANT them to know. If my Glock 30SF is in my CompTac IWB, no one knows unless they brush up against it. That being said, I work in two industries in which personal space is just a myth, so every now and again I'll get a hug or a smack or something and they're like "Are you packin today?" "Yup" and then we move on.

But I'd say, if you go somewhere that you know is going to be a pain in the ass to have it lodged somewhere uncomfortable (i.e. IWB during a Superbowl party) I'd say either leave it in your car, or ask if you can stash it somewhere.

When I go to my friend Mel's house, I walk in, say hi, give her a hug, then pull out whichever piece I'm carrying, drop the mag, pop the chambered round, cycle the action, and stash the mag/piece/+1 round in the end table drawer all before going in and saying hello to her sister and their roomy. But they're from Texas where these things are normal...and because I knew they were pro-carry, I had a conversation with them about it. I also don't mind leaving it in the table drawer because they're each a decent shot and could handle whatever I bring over.

[big pete]

Spikes tactical 9MM upper receiver with Daniel Defense AR Lite Rail 9.0
Complete with BCG, Spikes Tactical enhanced 9mm maxwell block and ST-T2 heavy buffer, latter covers. aprox 200 round count.

Would $900 seem way too pricey for this setup?

[bonjing]

Figure the break down is

$500-600 for the upper alone
$200ish for the DD rails
$100 for the mag block
and maybe about $100 for the rest of the stuff
not a bad deal

[big pete]

That's what I thought. Is it missing anything other than mags?

[bonjing]

not sure but you may need a 9mm hammer. What pattern mag is the spikes? does it come with buffer spring?

[big pete]

I believe it uses Uzi mags. For the buffer spring, I thought the normal AR .223 spring will work with the kits as long as you're using a 9mm buffer

[bonjing]

yup standard buffer spring should be ok. I use the wolff XP power in mines because I load my stuff hot.

[Chainsaw13]

Midway has genuine Glock 17 mags in stock for $25 (NOT the korean ones)
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/538434/glock-magazine-glock-17-34-9mm-luger-17-round-polymer-black

I saw that last night too and picked up 2 for my 22.

[big pete]

load my stuff hot.

TMI

[Robulous78]

Ok Firearm guys...

I want my very own AR-15... but I am a broke a$$ with very little money...

with the proposed ban, I don't have much time, I read yesterday that if this ban passes the only thing it will affect is the ability to purchase lowers... is this true? meaning I need to go buy one ASAP?

What is the cheapest possible path from nothing to a completed left handed AR-15?

[big pete]

fyi guys - midwestpx has the NFA polymer stripped lowers in stock

http://midwestpx.com/index.php?cPath=92&sort=3a&page=2

[spectrrr]

fyi guys - midwestpx has the NFA polymer stripped lowers in stock

http://midwestpx.com/index.php?cPath=92&sort=3a&page=2

not anymore :)

[spectrrr]

Ok Firearm guys...

I want my very own AR-15... but I am a broke a$$ with very little money...

with the proposed ban, I don't have much time, I read yesterday that if this ban passes the only thing it will affect is the ability to purchase lowers... is this true? meaning I need to go buy one ASAP?

What is the cheapest possible path from nothing to a completed left handed AR-15?

OK, so here's the deal. A stripped lower is what you have to acquire before a ban passes.

How much you're willing to pay for that lower, and how likely you think it is that a ban will actually pass, is something YOU have to determine. I would advice caution from buying into the fear mongering... and I would also advice equal caution from becoming complacent and thinking it can't happen. both extremes will not lend to healthy decisions.

So, advising on the assumption a ban will pass (because if one doesn't pass, you don't really have any questions that need answer):
You need a stripped lower. You can get one on Gunbroker right now for $350-$400. Retail is $90-$150. You're paying that surcharge for peace of mind, and the ability to have it in your hand NOW. Your other option for NOW would be to try going to a gun show this weekend, you'll probably find one on sale for $300-$350 (go early). A bird in the hand, two in the bush, and all that jazz.

If you think a ban will pass, but not for another 3-4 months, then you have other options. You can watch SlickGuns like a hawk and, waiting to pounce on a batch of lowers put up for sale or preorder. "in stock" generally doesn't ship for another 2-4 weeks. Pre-orders typically ship in 3-8 weeks. Make sure you find out before you buy.
BOTH of these pages will have listings for lowers on them:
http://www.slickguns.com/category/accessories
http://www.slickguns.com/category/rifles

POLYMER lowers: Lots of guys will thumb their noses at a polymer lower. I kinda am that way, but mostly because it doesn't fit MY needs. BUT a polymer lower does have it's place in the world, and they can be pretty danged durable (and because it flexes more, it can actually be more durable in some cases where metal would be irrecoverably bent). A bigger disadvantage to them I think than a perceived lack of durability, is a lack of customize-ability. Many times the Stock is fixed, etc. (that's actually a good thing - more mass, fewer small parts and joints to break). Either way, if you're flat broke, you want a plinker AR to have, hold and enjoy at the range or take hunting, A quality polymer lower is an option. And it's typically running only around $170 these days. You won't have much flexibility, but it will do the job.

I think that sums up what I know at the moment.

It should go without saying that you'll need to pick up a few magazines as well. A magazine capacity ban, in fact, has a much higher chance of passing than anything else.

[big pete]

Had two in my cart but decided to skip it since the two local FFLs charge $100+tax for transfers. I can get a private party metal one for a little more

[spectrrr]

Had two in my cart but decided to skip it since the two local FFLs charge $100+tax for transfers. I can get a private party metal one for a little more

$100!!!!!! &&$@%#%&#@

Is that "normal" for cali?

My local ones charge $25

[Robulous78]

Thanks Justin.... So which parts will be different for me in a left-handed build? would I need to find a specific type of lower?

[spectrrr]

continuing the polymer receiver primer:

There's two basic kinds. There's the newer gen New Frontier (NF) model, which is just the receiver, and there's the old gen been around a while Calvary Arms (CA) model, which is the receiver, buttstock, and pistol grip all in one.

Calvary Arms:
http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/61043819.jpg


New Frontier:
http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/NFA-STRIPPED-2.jpg


Now the reality is, most parts of the lower receiver DON'T need to be very strong. The lower doesn't see a lot of high stress. The CA receiver has been torture tested, and held up to a lot of abuse. It's also non-customizable, and ugly as hell.

On the NF lower, my only point of concern is the stock joint, where you screw the stock in. That is also the point where recoil spring and buffer goes into the stock, and it does take a bit of abuse. I would hope that would not be liable to cracking way down the road. Please understand, I'm not well educated on the subject, I have NOT done my research, I am not a gunsmith, plastics expert, or machinist. All I'm saying is, you might want to read up on it first, that MIGHT be a point of concern.

[Robulous78]

I will definitely take that into consideration... Thanks... :tu

[spectrrr]

Thanks Justin.... So which parts will be different for me in a left-handed build? would I need to find a specific type of lower?

Ahh yes, lefty considerations. Down the road, you'll have a few options to consider, depending on how lefty you are, and how picky you are. But short answer is, it will not affect your receiver choice by much. You'll probably want to install an ambidextrous safety, but that is done aftermarket. The rest of the lefty parts are all upper receiver parts. So, no worries about which lower you get.

For the upper, you have some options. sometimes it's just a simple matter of making sure there is something to deflect brass away from your face. But there is still some gas that comes out of the bolt area, and some folks have more trouble than others with getting a face full of unpleasant gas leftovers, depending on how you hold the rifle. Some people buy lefty specific upper receivers and bolt groups which flip everything around, spit the shells out the other side, etc. Costs more that way. All depends on the scratch you have available at the time.

[Robulous78]

well... I have very little scratch... but I really want a AR that doesn't eject hot brass into my face and/or body... can you ballpark what a lefty upper runs? say average, middle of the line...?

[spectrrr]

well... I have very little scratch... but I really want a AR that doesn't eject hot brass into my face and/or body... can you ballpark what a lefty upper runs? say average, middle of the line...?

Not a clue there, I'm sorry. I have ZERO experience on that front, besides skimming through a few threads on ar15.com and noting what kinds of things were available.

When you are ready to build your upper, ar15.com is the place you need to ask that question, and they will give you answers that you would otherwise never have known even existed.

[spectrrr]

The brass is easily solved. Even some of the gas can be directed away if it's minor. The major consideration is how YOU hold the rifle and sight with it. That will best be answered by you shooting someone else's AR first, before you try to choose which specialty parts are or are not needed to fix the problem you might, or might not have.

[Robulous78]

Thanks.... :tu

[spectrrr]

Keep in mind, I know what I know from reading. I'm the guy that has spent way too much time reading way too many things. And I usually remember them. I'm an internet jockey who wants to get into 3gun (but has never shot a match yet). Out in the field, I'm not the guy you would be asking for anything from, I'm not all that experienced. So take my opinion as what it is, the "summation and distillation of what I have observed and read", not the dispensing of any great first-hand experience on my part.

[Robulous78]

Well Francis, it is still appreciated...

I think I am going to save some pay and grab a lower with my next check if I can... :tu

Thanks for lending me your knowledge...

[spectrrr]

Well Francis, it is still appreciated...

I think I am going to save some pay and grab a lower with my next check if I can... :tu

Thanks for lending me your knowledge...

anytime :tu

[emopunker2004]

Ok Firearm guys...

I want my very own AR-15... but I am a broke a$$ with very little money...

with the proposed ban, I don't have much time, I read yesterday that if this ban passes the only thing it will affect is the ability to purchase lowers... is this true? meaning I need to go buy one ASAP?

What is the cheapest possible path from nothing to a completed left handed AR-15?
Don't bother. Cheapest you're gonna do it now is like $1500 most likely.

Of all the polymer lowers, the CA lower is by far mostly known as the most superior polymer lower. Down side is the stock is fixed to the lower.

[Robulous78]

I want to take a while... buy a part here... a part there... I thought they were cheaper if you assembled them yourself...?

[Islayphile]

I want to take a while... buy a part here... a part there... I thought they were cheaper if you assembled them yourself...?

They generally are...but

You have chosen the absolute worst time to start this process due to the panic buying going on a record pace.

[jluck]

Rob, if your willing to pay full blown fear pricing, there was someone on this site planning on selling there extra lowers for a mint if you will pay it, who knows maybe there's a trade offset you could manage. I think it was Duane (forgop)sp?.

I do know of people recently getting lowers for around 200, I will look into it.

[big pete]

$100!!!!!! &&$@%#%&#@

Is that "normal" for cali?

My local ones charge $25


FFL to FFL are $60-100. Private party transfers are around $35

[emopunker2004]

That's bullshit bro. My FFL charges $20 for any transfer

[Blueface]

In South Florida, I use to pay $35 but found a new one that charges me $25.
That is best I can do.

[Blueface]

Finally got shipping notice on my E-Landers.

[spectrrr]

Picked up my PTR-91 today. :noon

pictures to follow later.

Still haven't found ammo for it. Damn you sportsman's guide for screwing up 4 separate back-orders on .308 ammo. Won't make that mistake again!

[emopunker2004]

Finally got shipping notice on my E-Landers.

:tu
If they dont seat easily full loaded, just leave them fully loaded for a while, they'll losen up. the springs they use are extra strong. I have to give might a nice smack to seat them with 30.

[TNT009]

Anyone finding AR pmags?

[emopunker2004]

Anyone finding AR pmags?

Only place you'll find them in stock is on the secondary market for $40+ dollars. My buddy just sold 20 of them for an average of $45 each.

[spectrrr]

For the right price, anything can be had on gunbroker ;)

but no, you won't find those retail for a very long time. The backorder line is out the door, around the corner, into the next county and over state lines..

[bonjing]

Thanks Justin.... So which parts will be different for me in a left-handed build? would I need to find a specific type of lower?

Rob check out stag arms for left handed uppers.

[jsnake]

Anyone have a couple extra Pmags, Troy Mags, Lancer Mags they would trade away for cigars and nice lighters? Just looking for a couple.

[spectrrr]

just sold my extra pmags today on gunbroker :/

[emopunker2004]

Rob, A regular AR should work fine for you if ur a lefty if you add a magpul bad lever to the bolt release, ambi mag release, ambi selector, and ambi charging handle. only real ambi CH i know of is the ranier arms raptor

[emopunker2004]

just sold my extra pmags today on gunbroker :/

how much $?

[spectrrr]

how much $?

$218/5

[Brian D.]

So glad I've been a gun guy for lo these many years now. It's almost worth being old as I am just because my acquisition of "We'll ban em forever this time!" stuff has long ago been completed. Well, completed a satisfactory amount anyhow. Lets me concentrate on stuff that's not as hard to find, although when WalMart is almost out of .25-06 ammo (which is NOT a semiauto caliber, never was) you know it's gonna be tough to find everything else boomstick-related.

[spectrrr]

anybody looking for a cheap lower, here you go:
http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8913&dir=700|863|1068

$150, from a good vendor. I doubt it will be in stock for long. Shipping delay 15-25 days (I think they're running closer to 15 days now).

[emopunker2004]

And gone

[spectrrr]

lol, that didn't take long.
Wasn't that many article views on slickguns, surprised that it went even that fast.

[spectrrr]

another lower, $200
http://aeroprecisionusa.com/shop/ar15-stripped-lower-receiver

Same company that supplies many of Spike's receivers I believe...

Manufacturer jacked the price directly... but still, $200 in this climate isn't horrible if you NEED it...

[big pete]

Would pick up another one just to have but the stupid ffl prices + tax make it not worth it for me. Paid $285 for mine after transfer fees (almost $50 cheaper) for my private party one

[TNT009]

Well they definitely stimulated the economy!

[spectrrr]

Well they definitely stimulated the economy!

SORTA. What nobody seems to be talking about is what happens AFTER. Economically speaking, we have to look at the rate over time, not a one month sample. All that money that has been pouring into dealers wasn't "free". We created "sales" in the last month, LOTS AND LOTS of sales... but no new WEALTH. If the net balance of wealth is the same, then all you've done is shift the timing around a bit. I can tell you I'll give you $10 a month or $120 a year, it's the same amount of sales over time. (and yes, that's ignoring interest, which most small businesses are not earning).

So where did most of the money come from?
** It was money that people had set aside for a future firearm purpose (now that the purchase has occurred, the future one will likely not happen)

** It was money that people set aside to buy a new TV, or something like that. They spent it on guns instead, but economically speaking, it's a net wash.

** It was money somebody did not have to spend, they racked up a CC bill which will have to be paid off later.
~~Which means they may sell that gear at a loss (not good for them, and cheap gear they're selling means gear someone else will buy cheap from them and thus NOT buy from a dealer, eliminating future sales).
~~ OR they tighten up the belt and don't make other household purchases in order to pay for the gun. (net wash)

In the meantime, dealers may have a giant pile of cash right now, but they know that sales in a few months are going to be almost nothing, as the CC bills come due and people realize they no longer have any money for these kinds of purchases. Furthermore, because the dealer can't get restocked well, they will miss out on sales from impulse buyers who can' find what they want, or regular buyers who choose to wait until next year to buy when what they want is available.

So in the meantime, dealers will have to run a very slim operation over the next 6 months, which will mean job losses from some. If Midway had 100 employees before this mess, they probably have 150 now... but in 3 months, that number might be down to only 75 unless they see the potential for sales to start recovering.

The one area of the economy which has a net increase, for now, is the manufacturing industry. Magpul is going to be cranking at full capacity for months, maybe the next year. So their year looks rosy. They'll probably hire the same number of folks that Midway has to fire. But what then? after two years, what are their pmag sales going to look like? everyone that wanted one, got one, or 10, or 50. The ones that got 50 are maybe looking at their stuff and saying "ehh, maybe I only needed 15 of these..." and then selling the extra 35. That cuts into magpul's sales.

Magpul will still come out ahead - there is all the first-time AR buyers that went out and got some, there's all the folks that used to have 5 mags, now they went out and purchased and extra 10, so now they have 15... on a normal day they would have been happy with 5... and they're not going to sell when they have less than 15, so that 10 mag sale did create a net gain in the industry. But overall, the gains will not be as dramatic as I think many people envision...

In a nutshell, this could only be counted as a significant stimulus if the dealers were restocked to normal next month, and sales continued at normal "July" levels. THEN everything from this last month of insanity would be a bonus. but as it stands, if you look back at the numbers a year from now, you'll find that the 12 or 18 month average holds fairly steady, with only a moderate increase in overall sales from the folks that decided they wanted to have 10-15 mags in stock instead of 5, or the first time buyers, but many of those purchases will be offset in the overall economy by a different product they DON'T purchase, a vacation not taken, a house project not built, etc.

Hopefully some of that rambling made sense.....

[emopunker2004]

Stfu with ur technical bullshit Francis! :r

[spectrrr]

Stfu with ur technical bullshit Francis! :r

then I take it, TL;DR :tg

(can't help it, Econ. was my major :tg)

[emopunker2004]

Ur right, tl;dr. Read the first sentence

[jluck]

SORTA. What nobody seems to be talking about is what happens AFTER. Economically speaking, we have to look at the rate over time, not a one month sample. All that money that has been pouring into dealers wasn't "free". We created "sales" in the last month, LOTS AND LOTS of sales... but no new WEALTH. If the net balance of wealth is the same, then all you've done is shift the timing around a bit. I can tell you I'll give you $10 a month or $120 a year, it's the same amount of sales over time. (and yes, that's ignoring interest, which most small businesses are not earning).

So where did most of the money come from?
** It was money that people had set aside for a future firearm purpose (now that the purchase has occurred, the future one will likely not happen)

** It was money that people set aside to buy a new TV, or something like that. They spent it on guns instead, but economically speaking, it's a net wash.

** It was money somebody did not have to spend, they racked up a CC bill which will have to be paid off later.
~~Which means they may sell that gear at a loss (not good for them, and cheap gear they're selling means gear someone else will buy cheap from them and thus NOT buy from a dealer, eliminating future sales).
~~ OR they tighten up the belt and don't make other household purchases in order to pay for the gun. (net wash)

In the meantime, dealers may have a giant pile of cash right now, but they know that sales in a few months are going to be almost nothing, as the CC bills come due and people realize they no longer have any money for these kinds of purchases. Furthermore, because the dealer can't get restocked well, they will miss out on sales from impulse buyers who can' find what they want, or regular buyers who choose to wait until next year to buy when what they want is available.

So in the meantime, dealers will have to run a very slim operation over the next 6 months, which will mean job losses from some. If Midway had 100 employees before this mess, they probably have 150 now... but in 3 months, that number might be down to only 75 unless they see the potential for sales to start recovering.

The one area of the economy which has a net increase, for now, is the manufacturing industry. Magpul is going to be cranking at full capacity for months, maybe the next year. So their year looks rosy. They'll probably hire the same number of folks that Midway has to fire. But what then? after two years, what are their pmag sales going to look like? everyone that wanted one, got one, or 10, or 50. The ones that got 50 are maybe looking at their stuff and saying "ehh, maybe I only needed 15 of these..." and then selling the extra 35. That cuts into magpul's sales.

Magpul will still come out ahead - there is all the first-time AR buyers that went out and got some, there's all the folks that used to have 5 mags, now they went out and purchased and extra 10, so now they have 15... on a normal day they would have been happy with 5... and they're not going to sell when they have less than 15, so that 10 mag sale did create a net gain in the industry. But overall, the gains will not be as dramatic as I think many people envision...

In a nutshell, this could only be counted as a significant stimulus if the dealers were restocked to normal next month, and sales continued at normal "July" levels. THEN everything from this last month of insanity would be a bonus. but as it stands, if you look back at the numbers a year from now, you'll find that the 12 or 18 month average holds fairly steady, with only a moderate increase in overall sales from the folks that decided they wanted to have 10-15 mags in stock instead of 5, or the first time buyers, but many of those purchases will be offset in the overall economy by a different product they DON'T purchase, a vacation not taken, a house project not built, etc.

Hopefully some of that rambling made sense.....

I'm sure most people are using the 'ol credit card anyways......Hoping to make a quick buck and "Pay off the debt" when there rich and famous...

[Blueface]

Well, in my case, credit card charges and will skimp on what I can and pay off as soon as I can but at least it is sitting in my safe and I get to say hi to it daily. :D

[spectrrr]

Well, in my case, credit card charges and will skimp on what I can and pay off as soon as I can but at least it is sitting in my safe and I get to say hi to it daily. :D

Can never underestimate the pleasure gained from giving it a daily hello :)

[emopunker2004]

lancer and troy mags in stock limit 2. primaryarms.com site is touch and go right now, sure it's getting hammered

[emopunker2004]

nevermind, its gone

[Drez]

Forgot I picked up this beauty a couple weeks ago. :D

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/fmejido/CFCE1D54-7D50-47FA-9241-BB34591B3546-15308-000011AD3C6AA457.jpg

[emopunker2004]

Firgot?

[spectrrr]

nice :tu

[big a]

I ran back to the gun shop and grabbed the CM9 while i could get it for under $400 still. Now i just have to wait on the PJ holster. Pictures to come.

[Blueface]

I ran back to the gun shop and grabbed the CM9 while i could get it for under $400 still. Now i just have to wait on the PJ holster. Pictures to come.

Paul is running way behind.
I just hit four weeks and nothing yet.
In the past, they would ship within two to three weeks.
Seems everyone is slammed.

[spectrrr]

My oh my... how did I miss seeing this thing of beauty before?



http://i.imgur.com/Y9M9NNH.jpg?1




http://i.imgur.com/b4NRIHJ.jpg?1

[spectrrr]

Finally, a gun related short that I wouldn't mind wearing anywhere :)
It's a little pricey at $25 for a t-shirt... but it is nice.
black:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A3G4WC8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AVJ3ZIE5QQJ59
grey/brown
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00729YC6K/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AVJ3ZIE5QQJ59
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71OoPHLxoLL._SL1024_.jpg

[Steelerfanatic]

Forgot I picked up this beauty a couple weeks ago. :D

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/fmejido/CFCE1D54-7D50-47FA-9241-BB34591B3546-15308-000011AD3C6AA457.jpg


Is that the Hellfire Sport? If so I just ordered one.

[bonjing]

We were trying to get a jump on those umbrella lowers since before all the craze. And even then it was a pain in the butt to get them.

[spectrrr]

We were trying to get a jump on those umbrella lowers since before all the craze. And even then it was a pain in the butt to get them.

I'd never heard of them.. but I'm loving the looks.... now to get my hands on one.... :r :r :r

[hammondc]

My oh my... how did I miss seeing this thing of beauty before?



http://i.imgur.com/Y9M9NNH.jpg?1




http://i.imgur.com/b4NRIHJ.jpg?1

Badass. Suppose you could get a Milla Jovovich relief cut in too?

[Drez]

Is that the Hellfire Sport? If so I just ordered one.

It's a wasr with tapco stock set, trigger and muzzle break.

Buddy at one of the police stores/ gun shops gave me the last one they had for decent price.


I want that umbrella lower!!!!

[emopunker2004]

My oh my... how did I miss seeing this thing of beauty before?



http://i.imgur.com/Y9M9NNH.jpg?1




http://i.imgur.com/b4NRIHJ.jpg?1

Those were a limited edition run and pricey

[MurphysLaw]

It's a wasr with tapco stock set, trigger and muzzle break.

Buddy at one of the police stores/ gun shops gave me the last one they had for decent price.


I want that umbrella lower!!!!

I want to do my wasr in the od green tapco

[ysr_racer]

Are you guys falling for all this "panic buying"?

I rufuse to be part of the problem. I have everythig I need, and them some.

[Remo]

No panic buying here.

[CigarSquid]

No panic buying here either.

I was thinking of getting a ton of 9mm ammo before everything went crazy.. Wish I jumped on it then.

So hard to find some decent ammo for good price that is available.

I did just get done building the target stand from, http://www.usacarry.com/portable-target-stand/

[Drez]

I've had this ak on the back burner for a while. My buddy's called me up and told me he was down to the last one and remembers me eyeing it a few months ago before that panic. He gave it to me at that times price.

Brian I dont mind thae black cause my ar, 10-22 and mossberg all have black synthetic too. Od green would be really nice though.

[spectrrr]

Those were a limited edition run and pricey

Not terrible. The original run was $135, the current batch is up to $175. That's more or less in line with what you would pay for a premium lower I think. Only trick was getting your hands on one.

Are you guys falling for all this "panic buying"?

I rufuse to be part of the problem. I have everythig I need, and them some.

I have made a large number of purchases in the last few months, but the only relation it shares with the panic buying is the unfortunate coincidence of calendar date :(

[Blueface]

Are you guys falling for all this "panic buying"?

I rufuse to be part of the problem. I have everythig I need, and them some.

Panic buying is not the problem.
Panic buying is a response to the problem.
Those not well prepared, go on a spree to get things they see threatened of being able to get in the future.

I did a whole lot of panic buying. AR10, lots of mags for it, lots of mags for AR15, ammo, etc.
However, I paid the pre panic prices, even through the panic. I refuse to pay the inflated prices if available cheaper through other sources.
I unfortunately did not have everything I need and still don't. If the cause for the panic is put into true effect through new laws, I, like many, will be left without everything we need if we don't get it now.

Panic buying has relevance depending on what side of that fence one falls.

[MurphysLaw]

Brian I dont mind thae black cause my ar, 10-22 and mossberg all have black synthetic too. Od green would be really nice though.

My Ar and Remington 870 are black synthetic, my SKS is Flat Dark Earth Tapco, been wanting to ditch the wood furniture in the WASR for a while.

[Steelerfanatic]

I am panic buying but not at the ridiculous prices. I picked up a Daniel defense v5 and the ak47 at msrp. Ammo is where I got caught short. I have 1000's of rounds of 9 and 40 but less than 300 rounds of 223 or 556. Been hitting the Dicks at 9 on Friday and picking up the 6 box max of what they get in.

[Steve]

No panic buying here.

Here either :banger

[spectrrr]

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/259/5/7/umbrella_corporation_icon_by_xxdarklightningxx-d49z7aa.png

HOLY SH!T!!! I got one... I actually managed to get one!!!!!!!!!!!

:noon :noon :noon :noon

[jluck]

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/259/5/7/umbrella_corporation_icon_by_xxdarklightningxx-d49z7aa.png

HOLY SH!T!!! I got one... I actually managed to get one!!!!!!!!!!!

:noon :noon :noon :noon

How much Francis, If you don't mind me asking.?...

[spectrrr]

How much Francis, If you don't mind me asking.?...

Got it straight from the manufacturer, retail price on their website. $175

They're adding small 15-30 batches in stock over the weekend at random times. Sells out in less than 15 seconds after posting (sometimes in less than 8 seconds).

Only way to get one is to use Google Chrome and download the Page Monitor extension. Set it to a 3 second refresh and turn up your speakers.
You also need to have an account already made with them, correct shipping and FFL info already set in the account, and your credit card number sitting in a txt document ready to cut and paste. And your CC expiration date and security code memorized.

I also ordered a pistol grip from them earlier today, both because I wanted to try it (more vertical, looks like an AK grip), and so that I would know the exact sequence of events and buttons to press in the checkout, no time lost reading anything.

[Robulous78]

Wow... Sounds like you have ordering down to a science... :lr

So what is this for? A lower with the umbrella emblem?

[spectrrr]

Wow... Sounds like you have ordering down to a science... :lr

So what is this for? A lower with the umbrella emblem?

Hehehe, my fiance complains I never do anything half assed (sometimes a good thing, sometimes not!). I figured if I'm going to waste any time trying to get it, then I was going to GET IT, not just "sorta try" and lose to someone else who wanted to get it more :)

Yep, check the pics a posted a page back. That's exactly what you get, just a stripped lower. They got the license from whoever owns the resident evil franchise to use the Umbrella Corp logo and name. So the manufacurer is listed as "Umbrella Corporation". It is also reputed to be a top quality part.

Depending on your taste in movies, your oppinion on it could varry from being "super badass" to "huh, what's the big deal?"

I'm working on building a pair of nicer quality ARs (one 16", one 20") so this will compliment the serenty lower nicely :)
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[spectrrr]

I couldn't resist.... I got a second one.... now to go find something else to sell to make room for it :)

[hammondc]

Holy crap, seriously, you got 2? I need to do the Google Chrome thingy

[hammondc]

Are you guys falling for all this "panic buying"?

I rufuse to be part of the problem. I have everythig I need, and them some.

Not really. If I can come across some that is in demand that I can turn and resell, I will buy it. If not, I will pass. Like the last panic, once the hysteria clears, AR15s will be back on the clearance rack.

[emopunker2004]

I couldn't resist.... I got a second one.... now to go find something else to sell to make room for it :)

Got any shotguns or bolt guns? Lol

[hammondc]

or Sig Sauers?

[big a]

Paul is running way behind.
I just hit four weeks and nothing yet.
In the past, they would ship within two to three weeks.
Seems everyone is slammed.

Yea that is what his website says than he emailed me too. Do you get the standard cant? I went with that but was thinking if upping it some to his better.

[emopunker2004]

Paul is running way behind.
I just hit four weeks and nothing yet.
In the past, they would ship within two to three weeks.
Seems everyone is slammed.

I ordered mine on dec 26. I emailed Paul on Friday and he said my holster will be going in the mail Monday :tu

[emopunker2004]

Yea that is what his website says than he emailed me too. Do you get the standard cant? I went with that but was thinking if upping it some to his better.

I got the standard clip one with 15* cant for my CW45

[TNT009]

No panic buying because I'm not paying triple prices for a magazine or crazy prices for ammo!

[spectrrr]

Holy crap, seriously, you got 2? I need to do the Google Chrome thingy

If you really want the edge, get another extension called LastPass. Set a hotkey in the settings for default form fill with your CC info. I did it on my second one, worked like a charm.
Practice first with a grip, you don't have to check out all the way.

Also don't forget to set the page monitor refresh time down to 5 seconds. I used Two computers refrshing at an offset time so it was closer to every 2.5 seconds.
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[Drez]

My Ar and Remington 870 are black synthetic, my SKS is Flat Dark Earth Tapco, been wanting to ditch the wood furniture in the WASR for a while.

when you do let me know i might take it off your hands. :D:D

[Robulous78]

Hehehe, my fiance complains I never do anything half assed (sometimes a good thing, sometimes not!). I figured if I'm going to waste any time trying to get it, then I was going to GET IT, not just "sorta try" and lose to someone else who wanted to get it more :)

Yep, check the pics a posted a page back. That's exactly what you get, just a stripped lower. They got the license from whoever owns the resident evil franchise to use the Umbrella Corp logo and name. So the manufacurer is listed as "Umbrella Corporation". It is also reputed to be a top quality part.

Depending on your taste in movies, your oppinion on it could varry from being "super badass" to "huh, what's the big deal?"

I'm working on building a pair of nicer quality ARs (one 16", one 20") so this will compliment the serenty lower nicely :)
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Awesome Francis... I loved the movies... Now I just have to see if there are any half-life custom lowers... :lr

Anyone else have cool custom logo's icons on theirs? I know Justin does...

[spectrrr]

Awesome Francis... I loved the movies... Now I just have to see if there are any half-life custom lowers... :lr

Anyone else have cool custom logo's icons on theirs? I know Justin does...

I do I do (again). hehehe
From Serenity :)

New lower for my 3gun AR is in :D :D

http://i.imgur.com/LvQagQJl.jpg

[Robulous78]

really cool Francis... :tu

I wonder what others there must be out there...

[spectrrr]

Awesome Francis... I loved the movies... Now I just have to see if there are any half-life custom lowers... :lr

Make your own :tu

I met a guy today local at my gun show that engraves lowers. $50/side. He'll also do something that's apparently impossible to find, he'll engrave the front edge of the magwell. Says he has to take apart his laser and pull out the bottom of it then line the lower up backwards. Charges $80, but says he'll do it.

http://www.thunderboltgunworks.com

[Robulous78]

SICK... Does he do color also? I know this is super dorky... but I would LOVE a lower with a Half Life 2: Civil Patrol gas mask on the side... LOL :lr

[spectrrr]

SICK... Does he do color also? I know this is super dorky... but I would LOVE a lower with a Half Life 2: Civil Patrol gas mask on the side... LOL :lr

email him :)

his business partner, (and judging from the names, his brother), was setup in the booth next to him. one does laser etching. one does duracoating. They live in neighboring towns and work together on projects.

Sounded like his AR prices were reasonable from what I was understanding. I didn't get a quote from him b/c I don't have my full prject speced out yet.

[CigarSquid]

Got the LC9 all cleaned up after shooting just over 300 rounds through it today with the wife. Her idea to go today!

Man, I want another hand gun.. Prolly another 9mm.

[CigarSquid]

Anyone dealt with https://samcoglobal.com/index.html before?

I would like to get more 9mm ammo.. I just got 1k in, but with through 300 today.. I want to get some on order.

[Brian D.]

Anyone dealt with https://samcoglobal.com/index.html before?

I would like to get more 9mm ammo.. I just got 1k in, but with through 300 today.. I want to get some on order.

Not that this helps much but as memory serves Samco has been around for quite a few years. (That always gives me some confidence in ordering stuff from an outfit for the first time.)

[Digs]

Anyone dealt with https://samcoglobal.com/index.html before?

I would like to get more 9mm ammo.. I just got 1k in, but with through 300 today.. I want to get some on order.

Its been a couple years, bought a lot of high end Mauser's from them and the were the only source at one time for the nicest of the nice Yugo sks's. they are known in the collector world for higher end C&R firearms.

[emopunker2004]

SICK... Does he do color also? I know this is super dorky... but I would LOVE a lower with a Half Life 2: Civil Patrol gas mask on the side... LOL :lr

Color it yourself, I did my wife's with acrylic paint, toothpick, q-tip, paper towel and paint or nail polish remover.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8207715377_9562d3c733_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/8207715377/)
color (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/8207715377/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

[spectrrr]

woohoo. The UPS fairy was kind today... Magpul MOE LPK came in from palmetto, and the 16" middy upper came in from Aim Surplus, including that impossible to find part, the bolt carrier group. looks like it's an m16 style one too. :tu And I can go pick up my serenity lower tonight.

So now the fun part, taking that gaggle of parts, throwing them up in the air, and watching a complete rifle land on the ground :d

Only thing lacking is a low profile gas block and new rail... but that will be trickier, because I don't have any means of measuring torque on the new barrel nut :(

[Robulous78]

Color it yourself, I did my wife's with acrylic paint, toothpick, q-tip, paper towel and paint or nail polish remover.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8207715377_9562d3c733_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/8207715377/)
color (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/8207715377/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

That's pretty bad ass... Didn't know it could be done at home... Did you have to get anything special done with the etching to do it? Like deeper or something?

[emopunker2004]

That's pretty bad ass... Didn't know it could be done at home... Did you have to get anything special done with the etching to do it? Like deeper or something?

Nope. It's the stock roll mark from spikes tactical. Just google coloring in ar15 rollmark, would most likely work different for a lazer engraving, not sure.

[Robulous78]

Yo Justin & Francis...

Wanted to ask you if you would happen to know anything about this knife from the new Resident Evil Movie... I can't make up my mind if its real (ie commercially available) or a unique prop... Thought you might know Francis from your love of the movies...


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8466/8424384007_dab2c240f2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8424384007/) knife (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8424384007/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

[spectrrr]

Yo Justin & Francis...

Wanted to ask you if you would happen to know anything about this knife from the new Resident Evil Movie... I can't make up my mind if its real (ie commercially available) or a unique prop... Thought you might know Francis from your love of the movies...


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8466/8424384007_dab2c240f2.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8424384007/) knife (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8424384007/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

nope, in this case I don't know anything. I've also never played the games, so maybe it exists in the games but IDK.

What movie is that from? Gotta be 4 or 5... Looks kinda like the end of #4...

[Robulous78]

its in the beginning of Resident Evil Retribution... I downloaded it yesterday after all our umbrella talk... LoL

[emopunker2004]

No clue buddy. Try a knife forum?
Ok found it. It's a scrapyard regulator. Email scrapyard knife works and see if they even make that model anymore. Some of their knives are run every so often.

[Robulous78]

No clue buddy. Try a knife forum?

LoL... yea I guess I could do that if I really cared... I just thought you guys might know off the top of your head... no big deal...

So how you fella's doing tonight?

[ashtonlady]

What do you guys know about the Beretta Storm Compact 9mm?

[emopunker2004]

LoL... yea I guess I could do that if I really cared... I just thought you guys might know off the top of your head... no big deal...

So how you fella's doing tonight?

Go look at my edit

[emopunker2004]

What do you guys know about the Beretta Storm Compact 9mm?

Not much. My sgt has one in .40 and seems to like it. Personally I'm a glock fan, or a kahr fan if you want a single stack that's even smaller.

[Blueface]

What do you guys know about the Beretta Storm Compact 9mm?

Shot it. Not for me.

[spectrrr]

havn't shot the compact. Got a buddy with a beretta something or another in .40 with a rotating barrel. likes it a lot, says it kicks a little less than a standard 9mm due to the rotating barrel.

[spectrrr]

No clue buddy. Try a knife forum?
Ok found it. It's a scrapyard regulator. Email scrapyard knife works and see if they even make that model anymore. Some of their knives are run every so often.

nice job :tu

[spectrrr]

weather "warmed up" to 46 here, so I think I'll be out int he barn having a smoke tonight. It's about as good as it's gonna get for me :/

Umbrella's working on a billet lower to come out in a month, maybe two. Possibly available in unfinished.

For certain guns, I could see it being very sexy.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8362/8295202062_2669658f33_z.jpg

[spectrrr]

now gotta figure out if I want to paint mine when it comes in....
http://i.imgur.com/vl3Iol.jpg


lol, this guy had an interesting idea:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/6362_10152429845685136_488462456_n.jpg

[Robulous78]

Thanks Justin... :tu

[emopunker2004]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8192/8424743001_3e64cc4a8c_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/8424743001/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/8424743001/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

[MurphysLaw]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c82/Brian32FSU/BA408E80-6597-4BC5-88CF-B4B8225CDC44-17180-000008E162B0C937.jpg

[emopunker2004]

Still need to try those new anarchy cigars

[Robulous78]

So Justin, tell me if I have this correct... you need an FFL to order the lower but all other parts can be ordered and shipped without FFL?

[spectrrr]

So Justin, tell me if I have this correct... you need an FFL to order the lower but all other parts can be ordered and shipped without FFL?

You got it, it's just the stripped lower that is considered "the gun". It is also serial numbered. :tu

Lower (stripped, complete, whatever) must be shipped to an FFL.

Upper, parts to a lower, anything else can be shipped to your door.

[emopunker2004]

So Justin, tell me if I have this correct... you need an FFL to order the lower but all other parts can be ordered and shipped without FFL?

You need to have the lower shipped to an ffl. Everything else can be shipped to your door. The lower is serialized and deemed the actual firearm by the ATF.

[Robulous78]

ahh... ok.... so do FFL's name their own price or is there a guideline to what they charge?

[emopunker2004]

They pick a price.
Call around and ask
http://fflgundealers.net/

[Robulous78]

and this is probably a dumb question but I'll ask anyway... the FFL dealer has to be in my state, correct? for instance since you and I are buddies I couldn't get you to handle my transfer, could I?

[emopunker2004]

Lol no. Gotta be in ur state. Closer to u the better because u gotta pick it up there. Well legally u can buy a rifle or shotgun out of state and carry it back with u, I would assume transfer would be the same if its not a pistol, but why would u?

[Robulous78]

just trying to think of someone that won't charge me an arm and a leg... more or less it was just a theoretical question... with FFL being federal I thought it wouldn't matter what state it is purchased in...

[spectrrr]

ahh... ok.... so do FFL's name their own price or is there a guideline to what they charge?

$25-$35 is the norm, depending on the FFL. I have FFL's near me that charge all of those prices.

Occasionally you'll find one for $20, although that's not so normal.

I worked out a deal with one local FFL for a better rate on a group of items arriving. Some will work with you on that, some won't.

If you live in certain parts of komifornia, apparently it can go as high as $100.

[Robulous78]

I was about to say I heard it could cost up to 200 dollars... if its 20 to 50 bucks then no problems... i just didn't want to pay more for the FFL then I do for the actual lower...

I am thinking I will go ahead and buy a lower sometime real real soon... and then as the weeks go by I'll save my shuttle tip money and buy the other parts to build it...

what is the most expensive part of an AR? and how difficult are they to build, can a novice complete a build or does it take special tools and know how?

[Robulous78]

unless you think saving my money and buying an already completed AR would be cheaper? I am just trying to do this more or less the cheapest way possible... thats not saying I want sh!tty parts... just if i am going to spend more for them there had better/will be a reason why...

[Chainsaw13]

unless you think saving my money and buying an already completed AR would be cheaper? I am just trying to do this more or less the cheapest way possible... thats not saying I want sh!tty parts... just if i am going to spend more for them there had better/will be a reason why...

You picked the wrong time if you're looking to build cheap.

[Robulous78]

You picked the wrong time if you're looking to build cheap.

yea... I know I have... I just wanna get one before anything stupid happens and they make them illegal again... was thinking about buying 30rd mags also incase those disappear as well...

What chances do you actually give them to pass the ban again? I heard they said because the last one wasn't effective they were going to try to work more on capacity bans rather then model bans...

[Chainsaw13]

No real idea. I'm like you, looking to buy, but I'm not willing to pay the inflated prices. Good news is they seem to be subsiding a bit, at least from what I've seen on one site. This is for complete rifles. Now if I could only find the model I want at a decent price.

[spectrrr]

unless you think saving my money and buying an already completed AR would be cheaper? I am just trying to do this more or less the cheapest way possible... thats not saying I want sh!tty parts... just if i am going to spend more for them there had better/will be a reason why...

If you're worried about a ban, buy the lower now.

For all the other parts, save your money and wait. The parts will only get cheaper, and the options will only go up.

If you're not worried about a gun ban, don't even buy the lower now. The market is going to be FLOODED with private party deals on AR's in 2-6 weeks as everyone who went out and purchased one on panic suddenly realizes that they can't afford to keep it, and are willing to sell it for less than they paid. There's also a lot of people who purchased 5-20 lowers, thinking they would have a precious and pricy commodity when a ban hit. If a ban doesn't hit, then they're going to start liquidating those....

I would lay far better odds of a magazine ban passing than a gun ban, I would probably get a few of those now. $30 is going rate. Still very pricy compared to $10-$12 before.. but if you're only getting a couple, not that bad. :2

[Chainsaw13]

If I were to buy a complete upper/lower, is there anything else I would need besides mags and ammo?

[spectrrr]

If I were to buy a complete upper/lower, is there anything else I would need besides mags and ammo?

nope. Just make sure the upper includes the BOLT CARRIER GROUP. (bolt, bolt carrier). The only uppers w/ BCG I've seen at a reasonable price lately was a small batch of 16" middys that Aim Surplus got in last week. Crashed the website so many people were trying to get it.

There's a HUGE shortage of BCGs right now. Supply was getting short BEFORE the panic. Finding a lower is easy, finding a BCG is not.

If you buy a stripped lower (more common than a complete lower) you'll need a parts kit.

Palmetto's got a few right now at a fair price (the stock alone is $100)
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-acs-l-lower-build-kit.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-str-lower-build-kit.html

Shipping will be a little slow from Palmetto, but not terrible. I ordered a parts kit from them on 1/3, UPS just brought it to me today 1/28, so you're looking at about 3-4 weeks.

I paid $500 for my complete upper (plus tax sadly, they're in the same state). If you pay a fair price for a lower and nab one for $130, + $200 for the parts, you'll be looking at about $850 for your basic build. Get a slightly decent stock. Cheap one's rattle and fit loose. They function... but not as well.

[Chainsaw13]

Thanks Francis. RRA has the complete upper in stock (20" Predator) I'm looking at. I may do like you said and buy a lower right now and wait to see if upper prices drop. $675 is a lot for just the upper when you complete guns weren't going for a lot more than that last year.

[spectrrr]

But I really do think prices are going to be falling drastically in a bit. Just like when the stock market and the housing market get overvalued, there's a "market correction" as the pendulum swings the other way. Same thing is going to happen in parts of the gun market. Some things will stay high for a while (ammo in particular, typically if you stockpiled that, you'll keep your stockpile rather than sell it), but private party deals are going to abound for many things....

[spectrrr]

Thanks Francis. RRA has the complete upper in stock (20" Predator) I'm looking at. I may do like you said and buy a lower right now and wait to see if upper prices drop. $675 is a lot for just the upper when you complete guns weren't going for a lot more than that last year.

I don't think you're reading the RRA website correctly ;)
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=452

BCGs are one of the items on "INDEFINITE BACKORDER"


for a 20" stainless free float heavy match barreled upper, $675 sounds about normal. I wasn't very familiar with prices before, but I don't think you'll see that go any lower in the next year...

[spectrrr]

well I'm out, heading out to the barn for a smoke while the weather is holding steady at 46.... No garage and no cigar bar within 90 miles of me, so thats the best I can do in my area!

[big pete]

How much should I pay for a buffer tube kit (tube, spring, buffer)?

[spectrrr]

How much should I pay for a buffer tube kit (tube, spring, buffer)?

JUST the buffer, i dont know... i've only ever purchased the full lower parts kit, sorry.

Places like brownels and midway have not raised their prices. Even if you find the parts out of stock, you can check prices there to find out what the normal rate is. i dont think buffer tube kits are in critically short supply, so i imagine that normal rate or something close applies..

[Chainsaw13]

I don't think you're reading the RRA website correctly ;)
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=452

BCGs are one of the items on "INDEFINITE BACKORDER"


for a 20" stainless free float heavy match barreled upper, $675 sounds about normal. I wasn't very familiar with prices before, but I don't think you'll see that go any lower in the next year...

Interesting. I guess I can order it and see what happens.

[Steve]

If you're worried about a ban, buy the lower now.

For all the other parts, save your money and wait. The parts will only get cheaper, and the options will only go up.

If you're not worried about a gun ban, don't even buy the lower now. The market is going to be FLOODED with private party deals on AR's in 2-6 weeks as everyone who went out and purchased one on panic suddenly realizes that they can't afford to keep it, and are willing to sell it for less than they paid. There's also a lot of people who purchased 5-20 lowers, thinking they would have a precious and pricy commodity when a ban hit. If a ban doesn't hit, then they're going to start liquidating those....

I would lay far better odds of a magazine ban passing than a gun ban, I would probably get a few of those now. $30 is going rate. Still very pricy compared to $10-$12 before.. but if you're only getting a couple, not that bad. :2

But I really do think prices are going to be falling drastically in a bit. Just like when the stock market and the housing market get overvalued, there's a "market correction" as the pendulum swings the other way. Same thing is going to happen in parts of the gun market. Some things will stay high for a while (ammo in particular, typically if you stockpiled that, you'll keep your stockpile rather than sell it), but private party deals are going to abound for many things....

Exactly...A lot of people are going to be experiencing buyers remorse I'm afraid.

[emopunker2004]

Woohoo! My 200rds of m193 should be here tomorrow

[Chainsaw13]

I don't think you're reading the RRA website correctly ;)
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=452

BCGs are one of the items on "INDEFINITE BACKORDER"


for a 20" stainless free float heavy match barreled upper, $675 sounds about normal. I wasn't very familiar with prices before, but I don't think you'll see that go any lower in the next year...

Interesting. I guess I can order it and see what happens.

Well, placed the order just to see. I guess last night I was surprised to see the "Buy" button active. But looking through the rest of the site this morning, seems it's there for a lot of parts. Who know's how long it will take. Now to find a lower.

[CigarSquid]

I didn't know it would be hard to find an ammo can now either, local that is.

I want more of a modern, heavy plastic one. Not the metal ones. Can't find anything big enough here, right now.

[emopunker2004]

Why not metal? I love my metal gi cans

[CigarSquid]

I just don't care for them... Not sure why.

[MurphysLaw]

I didn't know it would be hard to find an ammo can now either, local that is.

I want more of a modern, heavy plastic one. Not the metal ones. Can't find anything big enough here, right now.

Is this (http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/product/ZAA-050) what you're looking for?

[CigarSquid]

Kinda...

[CigarSquid]

Is this (http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/product/ZAA-050) what you're looking for?

Something more along the lines of this.

http://www.amazon.com/MTM-Ammo-Can-Forest-Green/dp/B003ISKM9K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359474268&sr=8-2&keywords=ammo+can

[emopunker2004]

So buy two of those and get free shipping

[CigarSquid]

Where you see the free shipping at? Still early for me and I am at work..

On orders over $25.. I see it now.

[Steelerfanatic]

Something more along the lines of this.

http://www.amazon.com/MTM-Ammo-Can-Forest-Green/dp/B003ISKM9K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359474268&sr=8-2&keywords=ammo+can

These are what I use only the black ones. Luckily we have a few places here that sell them for 15 bucks.

[CigarSquid]

I found 1 this past weekend.. but it was a small one.

[MurphysLaw]

Something more along the lines of this.

http://www.amazon.com/MTM-Ammo-Can-Forest-Green/dp/B003ISKM9K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359474268&sr=8-2&keywords=ammo+can

CTD has something similar for a few bucks cheaper, not sure what shipping will cost you though.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/product/3-0813992

[CigarSquid]

So buy two of those and get free shipping

Order'd !! :banger

[emopunker2004]

CTD has something similar for a few bucks cheaper, not sure what shipping will cost you though.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/product/3-0813992

Usually they're shipping is retardedly high

[CigarSquid]

CTD has something similar for a few bucks cheaper, not sure what shipping will cost you though.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/product/3-0813992

Puts me over by 10 bucks for 2 of them

Even for 1, it is higher than paying for 1 on Amazon.

[big pete]

Does the brand of buffer tubes matter (spikes, bcm, dpms, utg)?

[bonjing]

Sometimes, just depends on if you want mil-spec or commercial. I personally believe mil spec is better and there are more options. Then it all depends on how adjustable you want 5 or 6 position. Of the ones you mentioned I'd avoid utg

[big pete]

Looking at mil-spec ones. It's all I need to finish my lower. Anyone here have a extra set?

[spectrrr]

I have an extra FULL lower parts set, but no extra buffer :)

From my internet readings, def. avoid UTG, too soft a metal, treads strip and deform too easy.

[emopunker2004]

Pete you just needing the buffer tube? If you need a whole lower build kit, PSA has two in stock that I know of for a good price. Brand doesn't really matter as long as it's a reputable company, all those listed are g2g except UTG.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-acs-l-lower-build-kit.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-str-lower-build-kit.html

[DPD6030]

I'm thinking of picking up a .45 at the local gun shop. They have quite a few in stick from Smith & Wesson, Sig, Remington, Citadel and others...

[Steve]

Thinking about picking up a black powder pistol...

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Big%20Gun1.jpg

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Big%20Gun2.jpg

Probably not very good for CCW though.

[spectrrr]

Thinking about picking up a black powder pistol...

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Big%20Gun1.jpg

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Big%20Gun2.jpg

Probably not very good for CCW though.

HOLY CRAP that thing is huge. I didn't even believe it at first, had to google it. It's pretty light, I think you could CCW it. it only weighs 99lbs...

http://www.vincelewis.net/bigrevolver.html



http://www.vincelewis.net/myimages34/rev-x6.jpg

[Steve]

HOLY CRAP that thing is huge. I didn't even believe it at first, had to google it. It's pretty light, I think you could CCW it. it only weighs 99lbs...

I definately think I will need to use an Alaskan cross-chest holster for it though...:D

[big pete]

Pete you just needing the buffer tube? If you need a whole lower build kit, PSA has two in stock that I know of for a good price. Brand doesn't really matter as long as it's a reputable company, all those listed are g2g except UTG.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-acs-l-lower-build-kit.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-str-lower-build-kit.html
Already have 2 LPKs or I would pick that up. Someone hooked me up with a Magpul ACS stock but it's commercial sized. Anyone got a spare commercial tube?

[spectrrr]

M&P 15-22, SlideFire stock, JP "yellows" lightened trigger springs, Sightmark red dot, GSG offset irons.

In semi auto, it shot through 50 rounds of 10 year old Remington bulk ammo, the pinnacle of crappy ammo, without a single hitch.
In slide fire, it didn't like the Remington. It would load the round, but it wouldn't go bang, not sure the exact cause, I'll experiment a bit later.
Ran through CCI .22LR Tactical ammo (the stuff designed for 15-22 rifles) in slidefire with narry a hiccup.

I'm glad the $10 JP yellow trigger springs worked, beats buying a $200 3lb single stage drop in trigger :)

I have a $30 DPMS muzzle brake (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/524840/dpms-muzzle-brake-levang-linear-1-2-28-thread-ar-15-steel-matte) to put on it that redirects all the gas straight forward and presumably would increase recoil slightly to aid with slidefire. But if it keeps functioning flawlessly as it is now with the stock flash hider, I'll probably just send it back to midway.


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http://i.imgur.com/M9NwNG1l.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/M9NwNG1.jpg)

[elderboy02]

Very nice! :gn :tu

[emopunker2004]

Ups man brought me this 200rd battle pack of PPU m193 today yay!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8233/8430306889_db9e5736ba_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/8430306889/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/8430306889/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr