First Firearm Thread.

[CigarSquid]

Go join ar15.com

There is a wealth of info.

Or maybe http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_a/pdf/fm3_22x9.pdf

I just joined the other week. Still haven't had time to browse it all the way yet.

[CigarSquid]

Since I am new to the rifle secen still, I was looking up some good tips to clean the AR. I came across this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKTutSMZ4FU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqK TutSMZ4FU&has_verified=1

I don't think I learned anything other than pink is a nice color.

[DPD6030]

I picked up a Traditions Pursuit UL .50 cal muzzleloader and this week I also got a S&W Bodyguard .380 with the built in laser. Pre-Christmas gifts to myself :D

[Remo]

I picked up a Traditions Pursuit UL .50 cal muzzleloader and this week I also got a S&W Bodyguard .380 with the built in laser. Pre-Christmas gifts to myself :D

Cool, let me know how you like that .380.

[DPD6030]

Cool, let me know how you like that .380.

Will do Mike. I haven't even shot it yet but plan to use it as a backup/off duty while I'm at work. With my small frame it's hard to conceal a G23.

[Remo]

I am loving my Shield!!

[Steve]

:tu:tu:banger

Shot my Shield the other day, I really like it :tu here it is with my full size.

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Single stack thinness is awesome!!

[Remo]

Who here shoots the two dot night sights? or the Straight 8? I have always been a 3 dot guy but I went with the two dot Ameriglo night sights for my shield, I will get them intalled in short order, my question for anyone is if they think target aquisition is any faster with two as opposed to 3 dots?

[CigarSquid]

I have some 9mm ammo that I just recently shot. I have had it for a few months now before I shot it. It looks dirty and it is reman. I have had a few bullets that where in the mag and did not fire. Happened prolly about 10 times.

Should I sell this ammo cheap or is there anything I should be concerned about if I keep it and waste it?

I also don't want to sell it if that is bad.

Ideas?

[68TriShield]

I wouldn't sell. Shoot through them and be very careful about misfires and clean your 9 well.

[TJarv]

Who here shoots the two dot night sights? or the Straight 8? I have always been a 3 dot guy but I went with the two dot Ameriglo night sights for my shield, I will get them intalled in short order, my question for anyone is if they think target aquisition is any faster with two as opposed to 3 dots?

I have a few pistols with the 2 dot and a few with the 3 dot. I can't honestly say which one I prefer more but it did take me a little adjusting once I bought the first 2 dot.

[CigarSquid]

How does the cheesiness matter? Not that I leave it dirty anyways.

[bonjing]

Who here shoots the two dot night sights? or the Straight 8? I have always been a 3 dot guy but I went with the two dot Ameriglo night sights for my shield, I will get them intalled in short order, my question for anyone is if they think target aquisition is any faster with two as opposed to 3 dots?

I prefer the straight-8 over the I-dot even though they are basically the same. The serrations on the Heinie's sight make focusing and lining up the sight easier, I don't know how to explain it but it makes for a better sight picture for me. As for being faster to acquire just depends on your training. For low light/night shooting I prefer the 2 dot versus 3 dot, it just seems less cluttered.

[Remo]

Thanks for the input on the sights, I will get mine on this week and then get some shooting in, I qualified with my Shield last night , 94/100 pushed a couple left as I am not yet used to the slimmer grip.

[Chainsaw13]

Mike, did you get the 9 or the .40 Shield? Just curious if you shot both and how they felt. I'm starting to get serious about picking up something for carrying. I already have a Glock .40. Would like to stick with the same ammo if possible. I know too I need to try them myself cause each person is different, just looking for other opinions.

[Remo]

Mike, did you get the 9 or the .40 Shield? Just curious if you shot both and how they felt. I'm starting to get serious about picking up something for carrying. I already have a Glock .40. Would like to stick with the same ammo if possible. I know too I need to try them myself cause each person is different, just looking for other opinions.

9mm like my full size.

[Steve]

Old School...

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc6/Old%20School%20with%20a%20New%20Touch.jpg

[bonjing]

Is it yours? What is it? I think I see a Colt medallion.

[Remo]

Put a hundred or so rounds through my Shield last night with my new two dot sights, I like the sights just fine, still getting used to the thinness of the Shield and be mindful not to get too much finger on the trigger, but sure is fun to shoot!

[8zeros]

Old School...

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc6/Old%20School%20with%20a%20New%20Touch.jpg
Looks like it was caught in a tornado. Grips replaced. Maybe it was buried in a load of gravel in a dump truck and then found again and cleaned up? Used to level concrete? Kept unholstered in the bottom of a toolbox? All of the above?

[Brian D.]

Looks like it was caught in a tornado. Grips replaced. Maybe it was buried in a load of gravel in a dump truck and then found again and cleaned up? Used to level concrete? Kept unholstered in the bottom of a toolbox? All of the above?

That gun appears to have a slide mounted decocking lever, and the trigger has been converted to double action use. Looks like the offspring from a 1911 and a S&W model 645 that had a wild weekend together. :confused:

[Lockspur]

http://johnsonarms.deviantart.com/art/Wastlands-1911-Colt-Prop-303097246

[8zeros]

http://johnsonarms.deviantart.com/art/Wastlands-1911-Colt-Prop-303097246
Yep, obvious how fake it is in the better picture in that link.

[Steve]

I was wondering how long it would take...seeing the "decocker" on the slide, I have an airsoft like that. Looks "kool" though :)

[Cigarcop]

Threading for Suppressor and finished cap before Cerakoting.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/6B8228D1-040F-4596-8226-6C3A82C8CE1E_zpsp9x8gqnv.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/8F1A34AC-08C2-40EB-9777-8510954721D5_zpswda1aaou.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/4A4B2FFB-A5F0-4FEF-BFA2-AC4A0BA17407_zps47rriesv.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/FD8B69A2-FED2-46D6-A235-CDBE369702BF_zpsdw3ilrgl.jpg

[Blueface]

Sweet!

[dijit]

Is it yours? What is it? I think I see a Colt medallion.

Never seen a 1911 with a decocker. Heard that Sprinfield did some testing once with a decocker on the CZ series which look very similar to the 1911. But this one really looks like a photoshop special.

[Remo]

Sweet can!! What gun is it for?

[Cigarcop]

Sweet can!! What gun is it for?

Its for a customers .223 that I'm building for him, the can is mine but he has the same one.

[bonjing]

Super jealous of you guys that can run suppressors. Is that an AAC?

[Remo]

Its for a customers .223 that I'm building for him, the can is mine but he has the same one.

Nice, I need to pony up the $$ and get one, one of these days, a few buddies have them on their AR's and some on pistols, lots of fun to shoot :tu

[DirtRider500R]

I've recently been drooling over the FN FNX .45 Tac. Has anybody had any experience with that handgun?

[Cigarcop]

Super jealous of you guys that can run suppressors. Is that an AAC?

Yep AAC M4-2000

[8zeros]

OK here goes my first attempt at a picture post here.

This is one of the first ones over here.
Dangit, the server didn't like that. Kicked it off. Try this a different way.

[Blueface]

OK here goes my first attempt at a picture post here.

This is one of the first ones over here.
Dangit, the server didn't like that. Kicked it off. Try this a different way.

Use Photobucket and copy IMG to here.

[8zeros]

Yeah. I'm having a hard time signing up for photobucket. I run a lot of security software, something is getting in the way, java filter or popup blocker or ad stopper or something. Such a purty picture too. I'll try with a different computer.

[8zeros]

OK, this looks like it works. I'll figure out the rest of photobucket later.

I got this when they first were available. I'd been reading about them and I liked what I read. Thousands of rounds through it.
http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r782/rogerr57/glock1_zps40f71c32.jpg (http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/rogerr57/media/glock1_zps40f71c32.jpg.html)

[Blueface]

Glock 17.
Great gun to shoot.
I have a 21.

[8zeros]

I just looked it up. That pistol is close to thirty years old now. Time sure flies.
People new nothing about them back then. Everyone wanted to shoot it. Luckily ammo was cheap at the time. Now I barely practice that much so I can keep my stockpile high. I would reload cheap stuff except you can't hardly find powder any more. I have thousands of every component but almost no powder.

[Cigarcop]

Couple 80% lowers I had to finish on the Mill then Cerakote.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/72FEC19A-6620-4E1E-B6E4-75497C93401C_zpsahalpqwp.jpg

[Lockspur]

Couple 80% lowers I had to finish on the Mill then Cerakote.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/72FEC19A-6620-4E1E-B6E4-75497C93401C_zpsahalpqwp.jpg

:dr :dr

How many kidneys for one of those?

[DirtRider500R]

Man, I'm jealous of those.

[dijit]

I just looked it up. That pistol is close to thirty years old now. Time sure flies.
People new nothing about them back then. Everyone wanted to shoot it. Luckily ammo was cheap at the time. Now I barely practice that much so I can keep my stockpile high. I would reload cheap stuff except you can't hardly find powder any more. I have thousands of every component but almost no powder.

I have problems finding primers.

[8zeros]

Couple 80% lowers I had to finish on the Mill then Cerakote.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/72FEC19A-6620-4E1E-B6E4-75497C93401C_zpsahalpqwp.jpg
Gonna show the millwork? I'm kinda curious. I've been thinking about getting one or a few. How easy is it to do a good job routing these out?

[8zeros]

I have problems finding primers.
Midwayusa shows stock in small rifle primers. I recently got some from there.

[Brian D.]

So, two months or so back, after ten plus years of looking I found a used Beretta 92G in very good shape. (Spring loaded decocking lever that doesn't act as a manual safety, other than that is just like a 92F/FS. The G Model is a better mousetrap in my opinion.)

Yesterday I manage to score a second one, from the same (non FFL) vendor at a gun show. Asked him if he'd stumbled into a stash of the things. His reply was that he half expected I'd put that first one back onto the market and he'd run across it again, until he looked at his records.

Weird.

[bonjing]

May you rest in peace Mikhail Kalasnikov.

[Steve]

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[Steve]

Talk about High Capacity Magazines...

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc6/Reloading%20is%20Stupid.jpeg

[Remo]

Steve, Let's see your new holster!!!!!

[Steve]

Mike hooked me up with one of his buddies that makes Kydex holsters. Got it yesterday, and it is sweet!

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/2013-12-23_Kydex%20IWB/Kydex%20IWB%20001.jpg

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/2013-12-23_Kydex%20IWB/Kydex%20IWB%20002.jpg

Now if I just had something to put in it...:D

[Remo]

Looking good :tu

[Steve]

It's definitely well made. Pretty comfortable too, even with my spare tire.

[8zeros]

I can guess what a lot of people got for Christmas. I was just looking at PSA for kits to build out some lowers and they are cleaned out. I guess I'll wait a bit.

[G G]

When Steve posted his kydex holster it made me think about how much I like mine. I have had it now for over six months and carry a full size 1911 in it all day with no discomfort at all and usually only cover with a t-shirt. It's from a company called Panther Concealment (Jacksonville, FL) and if I didn't have one I wouldn't believe how good it is. www.pantherconcealment.com (http://www.pantherconcealment.com) I think. I have nothing to do with them other than I have bought a holster from them and like it a lot.

[Steve]

Good looking holsters Greg. One thing I really like about the one I got is the sweat guard between me and the slide though.

[G G]

Good looking holsters Greg. One thing I really like about the one I got is the sweat guard between me and the slide though.
Yep, I wish mine had one, but they will make it with one if you request it. they are some of the best at making sure you get what you want that I have ever seen.

[Remo]

http://www.rdrholsters.com

GG if you ever need another holster give my buddy a look but contact me if you ever order, I will get it done quick. :tu

[G G]

Will do Mike. Thanks I checked out the website and it looks great.

[Dukeuni]

Quick Question: Anyone ever heard of a gun referred to as a "R2 R2"?

[8zeros]

Searching for "r2 gun" got some interesting results. I like the 50 BMG one.

[Steve]

Nice little back-up piece

https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/s403x403/1507962_10152174889471757_1802845774_n.jpg

[Chainsaw13]

Nice little back-up piece

https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/s403x403/1507962_10152174889471757_1802845774_n.jpg

Yes it is, and the pistols pretty nice too. :D

[Steve]

You know, it's not often that I have to admit I was totally wrong about something. Slightly mistaken maybe, confused possibly, but usually not completely wrong. But tonight I must admit I was way off on spending ~$30 on a "gun" belt. A friend gave me a 511 belt tonight that was a little large for him and I cannot believe the difference in comfort and feel!

Wow, I wish I had tried one a lot sooner!

[emopunker2004]

The TDU belt Steve?

[Steve]

Operator

[emopunker2004]

That's more than a 30 dollar belt

[Remo]

A good belt makes a world of difference :tu

[Steve]

I owe a lot of people an apology for thinking they were nuts for spending that kind of money for a belt!

[Drez]

http://www.rdrholsters.com

GG if you ever need another holster give my buddy a look but contact me if you ever order, I will get it done quick. :tu

mike i might need to hit up your buddy. one of the only people ive seen to carry a IWB holster for the CZ-75 p-07.

[Remo]

mike i might need to hit up your buddy. one of the only people ive seen to carry a IWB holster for the CZ-75 p-07.

Nice :tu

[CigarSquid]

You know, it's not often that I have to admit I was totally wrong about something. Slightly mistaken maybe, confused possibly, but usually not completely wrong. But tonight I must admit I was way off on spending ~$30 on a "gun" belt. A friend gave me a 511 belt tonight that was a little large for him and I cannot believe the difference in comfort and feel!

Wow, I wish I had tried one a lot sooner!

It took me a few months to decide to get the 511 Casual belt. Once it came in and i wore it for a few days with the holster.. I regret not getting it sooner.

[Lockspur]

Bought my 8th 1911. Won't be here until Monday. AAAAARGH! ADD boy HATE waiting!!

[emopunker2004]

Well guys, got my Christmas present from my parents put on my AK. Damage Industries AK railed forend.

Here's the progression from start to finish:

When I first got it:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3807/9401720564_e702275022_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/9401720564/)
IMG_6415 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/9401720564/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

Added the folding stock, magpul grip, and 1-pt sling adapter:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7393/10678101026_a75069c757_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/10678101026/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/10678101026/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

And Now:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2885/11615138196_728085d10b_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/11615138196/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/11615138196/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

[Remo]

Gangsta Justin!!

[emopunker2004]

Now all I need is a red dot on her to be complete. Maybe change out the muzzle break for something better.

Psh that'll be a while. Gotta wait for my new tattoo to heal and then finish the shading and continue on my sleeve. :r

Talk about a slippery slope!

[CigarSquid]

Awesome looking Justin. I got some new toys scheduled to land on Thursday for my AR.

[CigarSquid]

Anyone recommend a decent, budget spotting scope? I am not into hunting, more for range and rec use. 100 bucks is a bit high for me.

Always have deals
http://www.fieldsupply.com/general-store/optics.html?uhc_filter_optics=126

I have prime free for a month.. Maybe even here.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Spotting%20scope

[dijit]

Well guys, got my Christmas present from my parents put on my AK. Damage Industries AK railed forend.



That looks really good

[dijit]

Anyone recommend a decent, budget spotting scope? I am not into hunting, more for range and rec use. 100 bucks is a bit high for me.

Always have deals
http://www.fieldsupply.com/general-store/optics.html?uhc_filter_optics=126

I have prime free for a month.. Maybe even here.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Spotting%20scope

You can usually find some pretty good deals on auctionarms or gunbroker you may have to look a little but that is half the fun.

[Chainsaw13]

Anyone have thoughts on Crimson Trace grips? A LGS has a M&P Shield .40 with the CT, 3 extra mags for $639. Gun is used, but looks to be in perfect shape.

[Steve]

A buddy just picked up a G29 10mm, so I ordered a RDR Kydex holster from Remo's buddy as a late Christmas present.

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/2014-01-04_G29%20IWB/2014-01-04_G29%20IWB%20001.jpg

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/2014-01-04_G29%20IWB/2014-01-04_G29%20IWB%20002.jpg

Beautiful work! My buddy is pretty picky about things and also never thought he could carry a IWB because of his body shape, but he loves this holster. With just a pull over you couldn't tell he was wearing it, definitely impressed him.

Thanks again Mike for the hook-up!

:tu:tu

[bonjing]

Not a bad price. I can't remember the going rate for the shield (plus I'm basing off Cali prices) is but I've seen the ct grip is about $170 ish and the mags can be about $40 a piece (I'm basing off all full M&P fill sized pricing). So if it looks barely used and it's something you want I'd go for it.

[Chainsaw13]

Thanks Greg. I'll have to go back and look. That may have been a Smith Compact instead of the Shield.

[bonjing]

Just make sure it's with 3 extra mags not just total. Shield or compact I'd do if I had the extra scratch. Is it 639 out the door?

[Blueface]

As far as Crimson Trace, I love them.

[Chainsaw13]

Will do. Also see a M&Pc on Armslist with 4 total mags (2 ext), 50rnds ammo and a IWB holster for $500.

[Remo]

Will do. Also see a M&Pc on Armslist with 4 total mags (2 ext), 50rnds ammo and a IWB holster for $500.

That's a good price on a great gun Bob :tu

[Remo]

Holster looks great Steve :tu

[Chainsaw13]

That's a good price on a great gun Bob :tu

As long as it's in good shape, I might pull the trigger. The holster is nothing special, but I know where I can get a better one. :D

[Remo]

but I know where I can get a better one. :D

Hell ya, and if you order from my buddy let me know so I can get it fast tracked :tu

[Steve]

Hell ya, and if you order from my buddy let me know so I can get it fast tracked :tu

:banger:banger

[emopunker2004]

No laser grips for me. Just the sights. Not sure work is too fond of not being able to testify that I used the gun how I was trained.

[8zeros]

I've been looking on the intewebz. I've got two unbuilt lowers set aside already but I like the 80% idea. I have a cheap Harbor Freight Mill/Drill That I think could do a good job on one of these. Prob'ly a good idea to get a few and the tooling while it's still legal.

[bonjing]

I think I want one, the pistol is nice too ;)

I'm not a glock fan boy but they make a heck of a pistol an this new one seems really nice with an extended tail, just wish it was in 9mm though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2EVj5NOywSY

[bonjing]

Or even better yet the 41.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i5_Sd5gcq7Q

http://i.imgur.com/UDnmq7C.jpg

[Blueface]

I think I want one, the pistol is nice too ;)

I'm not a glock fan boy but they make a heck of a pistol an this new one seems really nice with an extended tail, just wish it was in 9mm though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2EVj5NOywSY

That is sweet!!!
Don't mind a .380 for wife.

[sikk50]

Just saw that. Wish it was a 9mm, I've been wanting them to come out with a single stack for so long.

In other news I got an awesome little S&W model 36. Was made in 1969. My old man had it entirely refurbished for me for christmas. Its like a brand new gun

[emopunker2004]

I think I want one, the pistol is nice too ;)

I'm not a glock fan boy but they make a heck of a pistol an this new one seems really nice with an extended tail, just wish it was in 9mm though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2EVj5NOywSY

:td

Nope. No way in hell am I buying a .380 that big when there are MANY 9mm pistols smaller or the same size.

[DirtRider500R]

:td

Nope. No way in hell am I buying a .380 that big when there are MANY 9mm pistols smaller or the same size.

$5 says my 1911 is thinner than that G42.

[emopunker2004]

$5 says my 1911 is thinner than that G42.

Most likely. To me the grip length and width is what matters. it's almost the same in both dimensions as by Beretta Nano 9mm. Sorry but I i bought a 380 it'd have to be LCP size or similar to make it worth the trade off

[bonjing]

:td

Nope. No way in hell am I buying a .380 that big when there are MANY 9mm pistols smaller or the same size.

Agreed x100. I would be all over this if this was a 9mm. The thing that draws me to it is that it looks like I can get a high grip on it without getting slide bite as I always do with smaller pistols. the kahr is the closest that I shot without slicing my hand up, but that long trigger pull is not to my liking although I have shot nice little groups with it. I haven't used a shield yet. I like this as an option for us guys with chubby hands :D

I hope to get my paws on one at SHOT to see how it feels but something is telling me I won't even get close enough to even breath on it.

[Blueface]

Agreed x100. I would be all over this if this was a 9mm. The thing that draws me to it is that it looks like I can get a high grip on it without getting slide bite as I always do with smaller pistols. the kahr is the closest that I shot without slicing my hand up, but that long trigger pull is not to my liking although I have shot nice little groups with it. I haven't used a shield yet. I like this as an option for us guys with chubby hands :D

I hope to get my paws on one at SHOT to see how it feels but something is telling me I won't even get close enough to even breath on it.

Would not surprise me if a 9mm and a thinner .45 than the 30 are in the works to compete with the XDs.
I think I would still prefer my Shield any day over this .380 but for my still somewhat skiddish with trigger and firepower wife, this Glock seems like a perfect fit.

[DirtRider500R]

Sorry but I i bought a 380 it'd have to be LCP size or similar to make it worth the trade off

Those are nice. I'd probably go with a PPK, they're classic and are pretty accurate (for a .380). My go-to gun is still a .45 though.

[Remo]

I want a .380 for a pocket gun but I want a Sig!

[8zeros]

I want a .380 for a pocket gun but I want a Sig!
How about http://www.doubletapdefense.com/
Anyone tried one of these?

[Remo]

How about http://www.doubletapdefense.com/
Anyone tried one of these?

Cool little gun.

[Blueface]

I want a .380 for a pocket gun but I want a Sig!

Love my wife's P238.
She has the HD model that is heavier.
What a great, accurate small gun.
Great night sights.

[Remo]

Love my wife's P238.
She has the HD model that is heavier.
What a great, accurate small gun.
Great night sights.

Ya, awesome little gun!!

[dijit]

Those are nice. I'd probably go with a PPK, they're classic and are pretty accurate (for a .380). My go-to gun is still a .45 though.

If I got another .380 I would get the Makarov or Baikal eastern block copies of the PPK half the price and the most accurate .380 I have ever fired.

[emopunker2004]

Remington's new gun

http://www.gunsandammo.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/first-look-remington-r51/remington_r51_history.jpg

[hammondc]

I normally do not get caught up in gun aesthetics, but that is hideous.

[emopunker2004]

It is, I agree. But it's supposed to have a trigger pull like a 1911. Wouldnt be so bad if it werent for that rear right

[DirtRider500R]

Looks kinda like a High Point. Not a fan.

[Brian D.]

Been my experience it's best to wait until you can actually get your hands on a gun to cast any sort of judgement. Just from seeing pictures...well, lots of people did only that and went 'UGH' about Glock handguns and Steyr AUG rifles back in the day. Many of them came around a little bit through the years.

[Lockspur]

FINALLY came in!

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2805/11847679253_804285bcf3_z.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/j3WsgX)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/11847407705_6604f446e9_z.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/j3V4y6)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5550/11848216506_7f6c26a950_z.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/j3ZcYW)

My 8th 1911. Giggity! I've always wanted a blued gun, but wasn't really hip to buying a Colt. I'm a Springfield fanboi. Gonna shoot it, then send it to my shop to have a beavertail safety fitted.

[DirtRider500R]

That thing is beautiful!! I'm super jealous!

[Remo]

Looks great Scotty!!

[Lockspur]

I normally do not get caught up in gun aesthetics, but that is hideous.

Ruger did it first.

[emopunker2004]

Ruger did it first.

No way. Not near as ugly.

[Remo]

Ruger looks like Mila compared to that Remington!!

[Lockspur]

True. I've always maintained that Remington should stick to long-guns. Their handguns haven't really left their mark. Their 1911's aren't well-made, and now this.

[Remo]

True. I've always maintained that Remington should stick to long-guns. Their handguns haven't really left their mark. Their 1911's aren't well-made, and now this.

True!! Sent you a PM bro :tu

[DirtRider500R]

Their 1911's aren't well-made, and now this.

My Rand would like to disagree. :D

[Lockspur]

My Rand would like to disagree. :D

Correction. They're 1911's manufactured from 2010 to present. :p

[CigarSquid]

Have you guys seen these? Thoguhts?

http://www.mibullet.com/

[8zeros]

Have you guys seen these? Thoguhts?

http://www.mibullet.com/
My first thought without even looking past the first page is it seems kinda nonlethal.

[dijit]

Have you guys seen these? Thoguhts?

http://www.mibullet.com/

Very interesting concept. I used to carry .38 in double projectile load. Less powder and lower velocity but a double hit. Worked great in snubs and played hell with longer barrels. When I moved to a 9mm I used Glazers for a while then the cor-bon +p Shot shell. Now I make my own Gold dots. They are as close as you can get to Black Talons.

[Steve]

Very interesting concept. I used to carry .38 in double projectile load. Less powder and lower velocity but a double hit. Worked great in snubs and played hell with longer barrels. When I moved to a 9mm I used Glazers for a while then the cor-bon +p Shot shell. Now I make my own Gold dots. They are as close as you can get to Black Talons.

My first thought was that this "cutting edge", "one of a kind technology" was around in the 80's...

[emopunker2004]

Very interesting concept. I used to carry .38 in double projectile load. Less powder and lower velocity but a double hit. Worked great in snubs and played hell with longer barrels. When I moved to a 9mm I used Glazers for a while then the cor-bon +p Shot shell. Now I make my own Gold dots. They are as close as you can get to Black Talons.

Black talons you say? Buy winchester ranger ra9t same thing no black coating

[Blueface]

As my Umbrella build gradually continues, just ordered their logo engraved BCG to go along with the lower, upper, grip and lower parts kit, to include the Giselle SSA trigger.
They are soon coming out with barrels, to include 300 black out and a hand guard.

[GTsetGO]

just ordered this today to continue the purchases to build my ar

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/featured/ptac-16-m4-1-7-upper-with-bolt-carrier-group-and-charging-handle.html

[Remo]

just ordered this today to continue the purchases to build my ar

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/featured/ptac-16-m4-1-7-upper-with-bolt-carrier-group-and-charging-handle.html

Cool :tu

[Remo]

14282

New Fobus holster came today, I accidentally sold my other one with my M&P compact, I forgot that I used my full size with it also :sl so had to order a new one for off duty carry of my full size (usually just for training though) too big to carry off duty.

[Steve]

14282

New Fobus holster came today, I accidentally sold my other one with my M&P compact, I forgot that I used my full size with it also :sl so had to order a new one for off duty carry of my full size (usually just for training though) too big to carry off duty.

Is that a paddle?

[Remo]

Is that a paddle?

Yup

[GTsetGO]

nice.

I ordered one of these last week for my SA XDsc

http://aliengearholsters.com/skin/frontend/default/theme248/images/media/slider1.jpg

[Remo]

nice.

I ordered one of these last week for my SA XDsc

http://aliengearholsters.com/skin/frontend/default/theme248/images/media/slider1.jpg

Cool, let me know how you like it.

[cigarmonkel]

went from this:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/mp_zpsd1bc0db5.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/mp_zpsd1bc0db5.jpg.html)

to this:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/20131217_123049_zpsd1389a83.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/20131217_123049_zpsd1389a83.jpg.html)

Custom built my own ar15, CVA muzzleloader, remington 870, M&P 9mm. From the time I purchased the M&P till now its been a total of about 6 monthsish (talk about a slippery slope..)

next in line will be either a remington 700 .300 win mag or a S&W 1911 .45acp

[Steve]

nice.

I ordered one of these last week for my SA XDsc

http://aliengearholsters.com/skin/frontend/default/theme248/images/media/slider1.jpg

I've seen those, but it looks like a lot to slip into and out of. I like only having a single clip to mess with. :2:2

[cigarmonkel]

Some DIY ar build ****!
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/IMG_20130905_085022_zps7765628f.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/IMG_20130905_085022_zps7765628f.jpg.html)
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/IMG_20130905_090644_zps523c850a.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/IMG_20130905_090644_zps523c850a.jpg.html)
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/IMG_20130905_091032_zps5ef09545.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/IMG_20130905_091032_zps5ef09545.jpg.html)
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/IMG_20130905_091141_zps11c479a4.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/IMG_20130905_091141_zps11c479a4.jpg.html)
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/IMG_20130907_184657_zps8ca3b9a4.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/IMG_20130907_184657_zps8ca3b9a4.jpg.html)
[URL=http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/IMG_20131211_211323_zps4adc28f3.jpg.html]

[Remo]

went from this:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/mp_zpsd1bc0db5.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/mp_zpsd1bc0db5.jpg.html)

to this:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/20131217_123049_zpsd1389a83.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/20131217_123049_zpsd1389a83.jpg.html)

Custom built my own ar15, CVA muzzleloader, remington 870, M&P 9mm. From the time I purchased the M&P till now its been a total of about 6 monthsish (talk about a slippery slope..)

next in line will be either a remington 700 .300 win mag or a S&W 1911 .45acp

Nice bro :tu is your magnifier an Eotech or something else? I need one.

[cigarmonkel]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/IMG_20131211_211323_zps4adc28f3.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/IMG_20131211_211323_zps4adc28f3.jpg.html)
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh231/cigarmonkel/IMG_20131211_211457_zpsc95301b1.jpg (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/cigarmonkel/media/IMG_20131211_211457_zpsc95301b1.jpg.html)

not sure why the pictures turned out so big. Sorry :(

[cigarmonkel]

Nice bro :tu is your magnifier an Eotech or something else? I need one.

its an eotech 2x magnification it also flips off to the side :).

[Blueface]

its an eotech 2x magnification it also flips off to the side :).

Nice build.
Like the camo of hand guard.

[cigarmonkel]

bah sorry the magnifier is a 3x

[cigarmonkel]

Nice build.
Like the camo of hand guard.

Thanks! This is my baby those covers on the rails are a must with those metal edges.

[Lockspur]

I've seen those, but it looks like a lot to slip into and out of. I like only having a single clip to mess with. :2:2

I've done both. The single clip, if mounted to the holster, doesn't allow the belt to wrap around it properly...making it slightly thicker overall. I use Comp-Tac Ctacs and love them. 4 XD, 1 XDm, and 8 1911s. Love them.

[dijit]

Black talons you say? Buy winchester ranger ra9t same thing no black coating

I thought those were LE only. If not great round but a bit pricey. I guess there isnt any such thing as too expensive when it comes to self defense.

[cigarmonkel]

As my Umbrella build gradually continues, just ordered their logo engraved BCG to go along with the lower, upper, grip and lower parts kit, to include the Giselle SSA trigger.
They are soon coming out with barrels, to include 300 black out and a hand guard.

How much are those BCG's running for? Never heard of Umbrella (don't do a lot of online gun forum stuff). Looked them up and they seem to make a very solid BCG. Let me know what you think of the Giselle trigger, I've been thinking about swapping one into mine when I have some spare funds.

[Blueface]

How much are those BCG's running for? Never heard of Umbrella (don't do a lot of online gun forum stuff). Looked them up and they seem to make a very solid BCG. Let me know what you think of the Giselle trigger, I've been thinking about swapping one into mine when I have some spare funds.

Umbrella stuff is hard to get as it flies off the shelf as it comes in.
Best thing is to regularly check their FaceBook page.
They make very good quality stuff.
My lower and uppers are incredible in terms of perfection.
I am a big fan of the Resident Evil movies so it is a must have build for me.

So far, BCG $145, Lower $175, Upper $145, Grip $20, Parts Kit $35, plus cost of trigger.
I am patiently waiting on all parts they will be selling with logo.

[cigarmonkel]

I know you said they are coming out with barrels and hand guards, anything else in the rumors? Stocks? muzzle breaks/comp? furniture of any kind? I'm tempted now to do another build. Pretty decent price for a good quality BCG. I paid 185 for my BCM BCG back when they were impossible to find. Sounds like a fun build... any... pics...? :)

[Blueface]

I know you said they are coming out with barrels and hand guards, anything else in the rumors? Stocks? muzzle breaks/comp? furniture of any kind? I'm tempted now to do another build. Pretty decent price for a good quality BCG. I paid 185 for my BCM BCG back when they were impossible to find. Sounds like a fun build... any... pics...? :)

Well, rumor from their end has a Nickel Boron BCG in the mid year, and you bet I will order one.
New model grip, perhaps stippled.
Stock.
....and, complete builds.
All in addition two several barrels and a handguard, and all with logo.

[cigarmonkel]

Hmm I'm debating with myself if I wanna make a light weight ar next or if I wanna do a long range nail driver. Either way I'll definitely have to keep my eye on them.

[billybarue]

any inputs on 28 gauges. Tired of my 11-87 for quail (probably still use it for dove), and I've always wanted a Browning Citori 20 gauge w/ an English stock. Buddy of mine is good pals with a Benelli distributor and he's going to get a Benelli Legacy 28 semi-auto at a break-neck price. I can get in on the deal and think I'm gonna put off the Citori. Another friend says he has no problem with knock down power on pheasant and grouse with his 28, and claims 28 gauge deliver the best shot pattern. Any inputs.



http://www.shotgunlife.com/shotguns/peer-review/peer-review-the-benelli-legacy-28-semi-auto-upland-gun.html

[Fordman4ever]

Here's my guns, minus one. My Merlin .22 wasn't being cleaned the day I took this picture.
Remington 7MM Mag
Mossberg 500
Glock 23

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1012920_10153694659610581_1281606474_n.jpg

[Remo]

I think I am gonna grab a Mossberg 500 with a pistol grip for sh!ts and giggles :tu

[Remo]

nice.

I ordered one of these last week for my SA XDsc

http://aliengearholsters.com/skin/frontend/default/theme248/images/media/slider1.jpg

If you find that holster has too much material give my buddies company a look RDR holsters :tu

[Remo]

14289

Here is my IWB.

[GTsetGO]

Cool, let me know how you like it.



If you find that holster has too much material give my buddies company a look RDR holsters :tu



Will do. I have a leather single clip IWB right now and I like it. But i am looking for something more comfortable. I have tried a crossbreed and really liked it. But $90 when i can get this one for $35. plus they have a 4 week "try it out" policy. If i don't like it, I send it back.

[Lockspur]

I thought those were LE only. If not great round but a bit pricey. I guess there isnt any such thing as too expensive when it comes to self defense.

Ranger SXT is the same as Black Talons. But with a copper bullet instead of black. Available to civilian markets. That's what I carry.

[emopunker2004]

Put a magpul xtm handstop on the ak. Pictures later

[Remo]

14297

I am really digging the RIA compact 1911....really like the price, mostly good reviews with RIA, any fisrt hand experience here?

[Lockspur]

I've fondled them. Seem well put together. I hear the customer service is great. I would wait a few months, though. RIA has changed their roll mark on the slide, and it's MUCH smaller.

[Remo]

I've fondled them. Seem well put together. I hear the customer service is great. I would wait a few months, though. RIA has changed their roll mark on the slide, and it's MUCH smaller.

Cool, good info. Thanks Scotty :tu

[Remo]

All my gun contacts are in Vegas right now, my main guy says they have RIA's in the shop, I better go check them out :tu

[Blueface]

I have fallen deeply in love.
MRAD
man I want one.

[Steve]

14297

I am really digging the RIA compact 1911....really like the price, mostly good reviews with RIA, any fisrt hand experience here?

Sexy...

[Remo]

Sexy...

$429 really sexy!!!!

[sikk50]

I've been using Remora ITWB holsters for my LC9 and Model 36. Just ordered a DeSantis ITWB for my LC9. I'm just hoping its not too much thicker

I've been looking at picking up a RIA lately. I found out its on my approved carry list for work, I just havent had a chance to actually shoot one yet

[dijit]

14297

I am really digging the RIA compact 1911....really like the price, mostly good reviews with RIA, any fisrt hand experience here?

I havent tried the compact but have owned or currently owned the full size tactical and standard and for the money I dont think you can go wrong. However it is a design that I think one would have to work at to mess up too.

[Remo]

I havent tried the compact but have owned or currently owned the full size tactical and standard and for the money I dont think you can go wrong. However it is a design that I think one would have to work at to mess up too.

Cool, thanks Michael!

[Lockspur]

I havent tried the compact but have owned or currently owned the full size tactical and standard and for the money I dont think you can go wrong. However it is a design that I think one would have to work at to mess up too.

You'd be surprised. I've had 1911's that were a mess. Where it usually goes wrong is with the extractor and ejector. But those are also easy fixes.

Also, the internet will tell you that 1911's with a barrel shorter than 4" will be trouble. It all depends on the manufacturer. My 4" 1911 has a 2" grouping at 25 yards on a rest…and there is no way I can replicate that free hand.

Some manufacturers don't build their 1911's to mil-spec. The ATI Commander I had needed major work to fit an aftermarket sear/disconnector. The channel they sit in was way too small. Most other 1911's need just minor sanding for the same part…if sanding is needed at all. However, the ATI went bang every time I pulled the trigger (dang stiff one too) and was a very accurate and comfortable gun. And for $450, it was priced right. I sold it because I end up tweaking my guns and it would have cost too much to do what I wanted…due to the out of spec manufacturing.

[emopunker2004]

Picked up a TLR1S

Might stay on the Glock. Might go on the AK

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3710/11995105215_cf35e06a0d_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/11995105215/)
DSC00168 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/11995105215/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

[0002S]

6.5 Grendel

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/Poor%20Picture%20Quality%20Repository/65Grendel_zps6ed5b953.jpg

[Remo]

Sexy!

[Cigarcop]

Just built this one to sell.... Trued Rem 700, .223 Bartlien 1-8 chambered for the 75 Amax, obviously threaded for the Suppressor and sitting in an AI 2.0 Stock, Cerakoted in Black
Was very cold this morning but I managed to put 8 rds thru it with a makeshift load that didn't do to bad.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/6DF84723-9DBE-46C1-AD95-39C2C7A8C0C3_zpseo4zpnw6.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/DFCEDAA4-FBF3-48BC-87EF-21F4766B8630_zpsqrrw87r7.jpg

[Cigarcop]

Nice Grendel Shawn, I gave up on mine as it had its limitations at longer ranges but damn accurate for the short game.... Always enjoy seeing your stuff!

Keith

[0002S]

Nice Grendel Shawn, I gave up on mine as it had its limitations at longer ranges but damn accurate for the short game.... Always enjoy seeing your stuff!

Keith

Thanks, your builds are always in a class unto themselves.

This Grendel could be finicky. It got a 18" Liberty barrel and the throat seems a little short. Initial dummy rounds have 120 SMK at 2.230 OAL. Chamber is not to tight though. We shall see.

What were your experiences shooting at 600 / 800 / 1000?

Any favorite loads that you remember?

-Shawn

[Cigarcop]

Shawn, I was shooting the 123 Amax & Scenars using IMR 8208 XBR with 28.5grs I had a Saturn Barrel..... Seemed past 500 yrds it just fell on its face where the 6mm's such as the 6BR, BRX, and the 6 Dasher make everything look bad because they are so accurate and easy to tune.

[0002S]

Shawn, I was shooting the 123 Amax & Scenars using IMR 8208 XBR with 28.5grs I had a Saturn Barrel..... Seemed past 500 yrds it just fell on its face where the 6mm's such as the 6BR, BRX, and the 6 Dasher make everything look bad because they are so accurate and easy to tune.

I'd like this to shoot well at 600. The round should be dropping 35-45 feet at 1000. I don't think I'm going to have any real success at 1000.

[Cigarcop]

It will shoot OK Im sure Shawn, but I doubt it will be a 1/2 moa gun at 600 with any consistancy and certainly 1000 would be not even be close.
I also shot some factory ammo from mine with great results but that too fell off past 400.

Wish we lived closer brother!

[sikk50]

Anybody know anything about the quality of PSA uppers?

[cigarmonkel]

PSA stripped upper receiver or complete upper?

[cigarmonkel]

If your doing a build and getting a stripped upper go with BCM. They have a track record that everyone swears by. I have many BCM parts on my build and have 0 problems with them. I've contacted customer support with questions about parts, availability, shipping and they have always been quick to respond and very professional and very helpful.

BCM is roughly 30-40 bucks more for a stripped upper which isn't much in the long run for a build. PSA is newer and IMO i'd rather spend 30-40 bucks more for a part I KNOW will be good, solid reliable. Nothing against PSA but I'll let the other guys spend their coin building PSA's track record up.

If your going for a complete upper then thats a different story. If you go PSA you will obviously save some money then if you were to go Colt, BCM or any other of the bigger name brands. Money could be used on fun stuff for the build or ammo. I believe Wilson makes the barrels for the PSA upper (where as I would assume) BCM makes their own barrels for their complete uppers. I have a 16" mid length 1/8" BCM barrel and so far, love it. I haven't had it out at any long distances yet. Also, what do you intend for your build to do? General purpose? Distance/bench rest?

[emopunker2004]

Anybody know anything about the quality of PSA uppers?

PSA is GTG. Don't get a PTAC I've heard hit or miss things about those.

My PSA upper ran just as good as my wife's LMT upper. If it has the CHF barrel even better. Those barrels are made by FHN/FN

[sikk50]

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm looking for a complete upper. I'd be pairing it with a CMMG complete lower I already have. I just can't seem to find any Negetive reviews about PSA uppers, which is somewhat concerning in a weird way lol. Thanks for your quick responses guys


As for use, just general use and coyotes

[emopunker2004]

Andrew. PSAs house brand items are great for the money. Beware, they're slow shippers usually so be patient.

[CigarSquid]

PSA stripped upper receiver or complete upper?

Everything on my AR is PSA except the stripped lower. Only about 100 rounds through it, nothing to complain about.

Andrew. PSAs house brand items are great for the money. Beware, they're slow shippers usually so be patient.

It took about 2 weeks for mine, order to my house.

[sikk50]

Thanks guys! Looks like I'll go ahead and order a PSA upper

[Cigarcop]

Shawn, heres a pic of my Grendel

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/Grendel1.jpg

[cigarmonkel]

Ive read a few posts where the PSA uppers didnt fit the lowers. Probably was awhile ago though and im sure they fixed it.. I hope at least

[Lockspur]

Picked up a TLR1S

Might stay on the Glock. Might go on the AK

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3710/11995105215_cf35e06a0d_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/11995105215/)
DSC00168 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thestemens16/11995105215/) by emopunker2004 (http://www.flickr.com/people/thestemens16/), on Flickr

….but then again…today was a good day.

[cigarmonkel]

….but then again…today was a good day.

I see what you did there :r:r

[CigarSquid]

See this..

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/01/foghorn/gilboas-double-barreled-ar-15-makes-american-debut/

[cigarmonkel]

I heard about that from the shot show. I would imagine its got some heft to it.

[Lockspur]

I heard about that from the shot show. I would imagine its got some heft to it.

twice the mag changes, twice the malfunctions…I mean…pull the trigger and no boom…you have twice the chambers to clear and reset. No thanks.

[cigarmonkel]

twice the mag changes, twice the malfunctions…I mean…pull the trigger and no boom…you have twice the chambers to clear and reset. No thanks.

:tpd:. Unless they come out with some sort of hybrid complete badass BCG with ejectors on both sides of the bolt carrier... hmm... if someone wants this just take some tape and two AR-15's.. WHAMMY! The idea though isn't half bad in theory. If your gonna have two completely different systems on the same gun why not two different calibers? I think that would be a decent idea? You could have the standard 5.56 on one side then a 300 black out or a .308 ooohhh or maybe the new .300 win mag conversions people are starting to finally do. That would be interesting. I still wouldn't buy one though.

Would have 0 real world applications in the field. But would make for a fun range gun or wall piece.

[8zeros]

Here's what you gotta do:
Take a Street Sweeper and slap an AR sideways on top of it.
Practical.

[cigarmonkel]

Here's what you gotta do:
Take a Street Sweeper and slap an AR sideways on top of it.
Practical.

master key?

[8zeros]

master key?
Figures. It really is an obvious idea.
I like to keep the drum mag though. You might even be able to shoot 'em both at the same time.

[cigarmonkel]

Figures. It really is an obvious idea.
I like to keep the drum mag though. You might even be able to shoot 'em both at the same time.

drum mag would make that thing weigh a ton. personally if I was gonna put anything under my barrel in terms of fire power I'd want a M203 :banger

[emopunker2004]

Took the tlr off the glock and put it on the AK.

[Lockspur]

Took the tlr off the glock and put it on the AK.

Ssssoooooooo it was a bad day?

[Lockspur]

drum mag would make that thing weigh a ton. personally if I was gonna put anything under my barrel in terms of fire power I'd want a M203 :banger

The twin-barrel is a gimmick. Much like the SlideFire stocks. There's a saying in the motorcycle world…"If loud pipes save lives…imagine what learning to RIDE that thing would do!" Same thing with firearms gimmicks. If you think 2 barrels will take the threat out…imagine what learning to shoot that thing could do!

[emopunker2004]

Ssssoooooooo it was a bad day?

Glock did not like having that thing on it.

[Lockspur]

Glock did not like having that thing on it.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/12092205593_8ecf887529_z.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/jqxHrk)
Getcha one of these. :)

[cigarmonkel]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/12092205593_8ecf887529_z.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/jqxHrk)
Getcha one of these. :)

I believe your gun is in the way :r

[CigarSquid]

What he said ^^^^^^

[Lockspur]

I believe your gun is in the way :r

Hers or mine? :confused:

[cigarmonkel]

yours... and maybe hers?

[emopunker2004]

I just need to put a stronger recoil spring in. And stronger mag spring.

The light stiffens the frame and causes the slide to cycle too fast for the mags.

So for now she sits on the AK. Might use it to go hog hunting.

[bonjing]

Brownells 10% off orders of $250 or more use code SSS. Valid 01.14.2014 - 01.24.2014

[8zeros]

drum mag would make that thing weigh a ton. personally if I was gonna put anything under my barrel in terms of fire power I'd want a M203 :banger
I was thinkin the other way around. The shotgun with an assault rifle on top. You might be able to fit the M203 under there too. And a flashlight.:banger:r

[Steve]

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc6/Never%20enough%20accessories.jpg

:r:r

[cigarmonkel]

I wonder how long it took to zero all those sights

[Lockspur]

I wonder how long it took to zero all those sights

Doesn't need to. Co-witnesses like a boss.

[Remo]

Doesn't need to. Co-witnesses like a boss.

Would need to mount that b!tch on a Humvee!! :)

[Steve]

Serious Man-Cave???

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Mancave_Got%20Guns.jpg

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Mancave_Got%20Guns02.jpg

[8zeros]

Serious Man-Cave???

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Mancave_Got%20Guns.jpg

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc4/Mancave_Got%20Guns02.jpg
Ted Nugent?

[Remo]

Ted Nugent?

Nah, no dead animals.

[n3uka]

Ted Nugent?

I was thinking Charlton Heston

[Steve]

I was thinking Charlton Heston

Nope...a guy named Bruce E. Stern (http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/gunvault.asp) according to snopes.

[0002S]

Wish we lived closer brother!

Yes, I'd like to learn a thing or two from your experience.

[0002S]

Shawn, heres a pic of my Grendel

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/Grendel1.jpg

Very nice. Do you still have it or has it transformed into something different.

[cigarmonkel]

Shawn, heres a pic of my Grendel

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/Grendel1.jpg

look at all the reloading stuff and all its sweet glorious goodnness!!!!

[Cigarcop]

look at all the reloading stuff and all its sweet glorious goodnness!!!!
Lol, I def take my reloading seriously, I keep the big jugs of powder and Primers in another room..A little wider angle!

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy281/cigarcop/AC66AE34-3FC4-4FFE-BC87-4A4491528AA1_zpsdbhi3bhp.jpg

[cigarmonkel]

I just went from 6 to midnight...:dr

[cigarmonkel]

my current set up is my lee turret bolted down to an old night stand :r. Just got into 5.56 reloading though and need some new tools to reload rifle cases... stupid milspec primers. So far though the cases haven't expanded to the point where I need to trim them except a few. Need to play with the auto discs too to get the right powder drop as well as get powder and primers. Any suggestions for pimers? I've heard CCI #41 and I've heard #40's work as well but then i've heard NOT to use #40's.

[Cigarcop]

my current set up is my lee turret bolted down to an old night stand :r. Just got into 5.56 reloading though and need some new tools to reload rifle cases... stupid milspec primers. So far though the cases haven't expanded to the point where I need to trim them except a few. Need to play with the auto discs too to get the right powder drop as well as get powder and primers. Any suggestions for pimers? I've heard CCI #41 and I've heard #40's work as well but then i've heard NOT to use #40's.

Funny you used a nightstand!!.... The light brown 3 drawer stand under my bench to the right once was a night stand with legs....I had my Rock Chucker and powder dispenser mounted to it!

In .223 I use CCI 450's for both bolt and the AR platform

[cigarmonkel]

might have to get me a couple boxes of these... and by might i mean MUST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gczIArF6Uqg

its the new G2Research round. they are CNC'd from a solid piece of copper. they act like a hollow point but they have "fin" like pieces that come together to make the bullet. At impact they fan out and detach from the base of the bullet... insanely devistating and look nasty to boot.

after watching them against ballistic jell-o they look like they don't have as much penetrating power as a normal hollow point which means might be safer to use in a true home defense senario too. I'm always paranoid that IF i ever find myself in that situation (god forbid I EVER have to) that the bullet will travel through the walls. It definitely has enough power to get the job done and put someone down but I'd like to see this run with a piece of dry wall and ballistics gel on both sides of the dry wall, each gel being about 8-12" thick.

[Brian D.]

might have to get me a couple boxes of these... and by might i mean MUST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gczIArF6Uqg

its the new G2Research round. they are CNC'd from a solid piece of copper. they act like a hollow point but they have "fin" like pieces that come together to make the bullet. At impact they fan out and detach from the base of the bullet... insanely devistating and look nasty to boot.

after watching them against ballistic jell-o they look like they don't have as much penetrating power as a normal hollow point which means might be safer to use in a true home defense senario too. I'm always paranoid that IF i ever find myself in that situation (god forbid I EVER have to) that the bullet will travel through the walls. It definitely has enough power to get the job done and put someone down but I'd like to see this run with a piece of dry wall and ballistics gel on both sides of the dry wall, each gel being about 8-12" thick.

I will only say that many similar claims of ballistic performance have come down the pike through the years. Lots of those companies are long gone from the scene. The quote often attributed to P.T. Barnum about 'suckers' should be kept in mind. No, I'm not calling you a sucker for showing interest, by the way.

[cigarmonkel]

I will only say that many similar claims of ballistic performance have come down the pike through the years. Lots of those companies are long gone from the scene. The quote often attributed to P.T. Barnum about 'suckers' should be kept in mind. No, I'm not calling you a sucker for showing interest, by the way.

What do you mean by claims? I'm simply wondering as I'm newer to the gun scene and haven't been around long enough to see such things come through the pipe line. I do know there are videos of this round through ballistic gel but I don't how you would define a claim. In the ballistics gel it looked quite good. Had the same effect as a normal HP round would + more. Again though, I am curious as to what you would define as a claim in this situation. Not trying to defend this product or company but am curious and I appreciate the info about other companies that aren't around anymore.

[bonjing]

Lots of reading to do regarding ammo, but all of it very useful:

http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Exotic_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

Now I'm not saying that it doesn't do what they claim, but I would like to see more testing done. Till then I'll stick to HST, Ranger and GoldDot.

[Brian D.]

What do you mean by claims? I'm simply wondering as I'm newer to the gun scene and haven't been around long enough to see such things come through the pipe line. I do know there are videos of this round through ballistic gel but I don't how you would define a claim. In the ballistics gel it looked quite good. Had the same effect as a normal HP round would + more. Again though, I am curious as to what you would define as a claim in this situation. Not trying to defend this product or company but am curious and I appreciate the info about other companies that aren't around anymore.

I wasn't there when the company did the testing or set up the gelatin. We don't know if the ammo was souped up beyond normal, or the gel of the right consistency, etc.

[Steve]

Lots of ways to manipulate data and tests. I think I'll wait a while to see how it stands the test of time. Until then, I keep to the old reliable and proven products.

I also wonder if you had the misfortune to actually have to use something like this, what the lawyers would make of it. I can see them arguing that you were using a round that was "boutique" and intended to do "excessive damage" and they could try to work the angle on "premeditation" somehow. Let's face it, in this day and time, people are always looking for an angle to shift the blame. That's why I don't have "zombie killer" stuff.

Not a lawyer, but I also don't underestimate the stupidity/ignorance/conniving of society these days.

:2

[Remo]

Lots of ways to manipulate data and tests. I think I'll wait a while to see how it stands the test of time. Until then, I keep to the old reliable and proven products.

:2

Yup, the old round ball and musket!!! FOG :sl

[Steve]

Actually, I was thinking about Hydros and Sabres, nut .50 ball works too!

:gary

[Blueface]

YIKES!!!!

http://www.slickguns.com/product/new-ammunition-has-gun-owners-drooling

[8zeros]

I wonder if you can just take some copper tubing and a swage press and make your own fancy frag ammo.

[Steve]

Any thoughts on Mini 14s?

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14TacticalRifle/images/5846.jpg

[Chainsaw13]

What equipment is necessary to start reloading?

[MurphysLaw]

Any thoughts on Mini 14s?

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14TacticalRifle/images/5846.jpg

Carried one in my patrol car for a couple years, shot it quarterly. Really nice to shoot but a little more work to maintain than the AR15 for the average cop. Lots of little pieces seemed to get lost when they were cleaning them so we traded the minis in for ARs. I'd buy one if it was a deal, and I'll probably snag a 10/22 when my boy is ready to learn to shoot.

[dijit]

What equipment is necessary to start reloading?

It depends on what level you want to reload. I would suggest to start with a single stage press. Much slower reload speed but makes you follow the basics before you advance to a turret press. You will need a powder scale, I would recommend a powder drop too (makes measuring the load easier). A micrometer, a brass trimmer a primer pit tool and primer seat tool should round out your tools. You will need separate dies for each caliber you are going to reload. Your initial investment should be around $300 to $350 depending on the press and the dies you choose to start. I would also advise getting a reloaders manual from speer or hornaday.

[cigarmonkel]

It depends on what level you want to reload. I would suggest to start with a single stage press. Much slower reload speed but makes you follow the basics before you advance to a turret press. You will need a powder scale, I would recommend a powder drop too (makes measuring the load easier). A micrometer, a brass trimmer a primer pit tool and primer seat tool should round out your tools. You will need separate dies for each caliber you are going to reload. Your initial investment should be around $300 to $350 depending on the press and the dies you choose to start. I would also advise getting a reloaders manual from speer or hornaday.

I started with the lee 4 turret press. As long as you take it slow, take your time, its fine for a beginner. Just do A LOT of research about your loads, setting up your press and then do some more research. Every time I sit down I still check my die's to make sure they are at the right levels/specs for my load. I'll run the powder drop a until I feel confident about the weight its dropping (I'll load powder, measure, dump powder back rinse and repeat 5-10 times before I actually start loading). Then I'll check my powder weight every 10 rounds.

I would recommend getting multiple loading manuals. I have a Horandy, Lee and another big book (don't remember the name of it). One book might not have a certain powder that the other book will or they might have different specs for each round. I started off (powder weight wise) at the lowest between what all 3 of my books said and worked my way up from there.

1) Press
2) some sort of digital scale or a powder drop
3) micrometer
4) Manuals
5) Primers/powder/bullets/brass
6) Bullet puller
7) Some sort of brass tumbler and media

If you are doing rifle then you will also need
7) Case trimmer
8) Case lube
9) Depending on the round a primer swagging tool (5.56 can sometimes have a crimped primer which you need a special tool to deprime)

edit: If you get a turret press it will come with a deprimer (for non crimped primers) and a priming tool already built into the press

[GTsetGO]

my upper came in.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn286/gtsetgo/guns/20140128_153013_zpszp30dr9q.jpg

all packed up and ready to put together.

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn286/gtsetgo/guns/20140129_201150_zpstbke7uof.jpg


and have been able to grab 120 rounds of 5.56 in the last two weeks at local stops.

[Chainsaw13]

Thanks for the info on reloading. Right now I'd get started with .40 for my pistol, and possibly .223/5.56 as well.

[8zeros]

I have a 16 in. flat top floating barrel AR with no sights on it yet. I can't see through iron sights so well any more and no sense in putting a scope on this. I already have a scoped 20" HBAR setup.
What ideas y'all have for sighting this? I've already done some research but I'm throwin' it out here.

[cigarmonkel]

I have a 16 in. flat top floating barrel AR with no sights on it yet. I can't see through iron sights so well any more and no sense in putting a scope on this. I already have a scoped 20" HBAR setup.
What ideas y'all have for sighting this? I've already done some research but I'm throwin' it out here.

eotech aimpoint or trijicon!

[cigarmonkel]

Thanks for the info on reloading. Right now I'd get started with .40 for my pistol, and possibly .223/5.56 as well.

Bob i would start with the .40 and see if its for you before you jump into 223/556 or both. Pistol is easier to reload. The case brass for pistols won't expand like rifle brass will. As long as your OAL for your .40 is good to go the entire round should be good to go. You can save some money so you don't have to buy a brass trimmer and primer swag for your 556 that way. If you like/enjoy reloading then you can go get the proper equipment to reload for your 223/556. Unless money aint no thang then do both!! :noon