Red's Fans Check in

[elderboy02]

It was nice to see Votto save the day yesterday after Greinke completely shut them down. This team is worrisome, as it seems they can't ever get everything to line up at the same time. It will be interesting going forward to see how they progress against this weak division. :hm

Yeah, Votto saved the day. I agree it will be interesting. I think we will do ok. We have been winning with Turd Rolen in the lineup pretty much every day batting a buck something. Like someone said the other day, good teams just find a way to win.

[Starscream]

Nah, I tend to be a positive glass half full type of guy.
The glass is never half full or half empty. It's always completely full. The portion that isn't full of liquid is filled by oxygen.;)

[Starscream]

I thought we were doing that :sh

Alright, let me restate my question.

When will it be safe to resume serious baseball discussion in this thread again?

[hotreds]

Did you ever wonder how a pitcher can throw a ball that can almost magically drop sharply before reaching the plate? This ordinary phenomenon is called a curve ball, and the explanation of this occurance can be described with a few basic lessons in fluid flow dynamics.

What you have to remember in this problem is that air is a fluid, and that things moving through air behave much like those passing through water, only on a less noticeable scale. An observable phenomenon known as the Venturi Effect tells us that a fluid flowing at a higher velocity has a lower pressure than that same material at a lower velocity, all other variables kept constant. To observe this, suspend two tennis balls from equal lenth strings about 5 cm apart. Blow a hairdyer though the gap between them and they will actually be drawn together because atmospheric pressure will try to fill the low pressure void and will in the process push the balls together. So high velocity means low pressure.

Back to the ball. The pitcher throws the ball with plenty of topspin (or, to make it curve left or right, sidespin). The spin of the ball magnifies the velocity of the air passing below the ball and lessens the velocity of the passing air above the ball. Higher velocity below and lower velocity above means low pressure on bottom and high pressure on top. The high pressure takes advantage of the low pressure and forces the ball to travel downwards.

[Starscream]

And Marshall couldn't hit the zone with a 2-seamer yesterday, but his offspeed pitches were thrown for strikes more times than not. Nothing against Marshall, but it was a bad day to have a bad day. Still, we won the game and the series. Now off to face the Expos again, who are winning more games than we are. Let's hope for the best.

[Brian D.]

To keep the conversation going, will you post 'Reds Lose!' as well. When they have a day off, please post 'Reds Day Off!'. Those are also baseball discussion. ;)

It's a little tardy now but

'Reds Idle!' 'Reds Idle!'

Sorry I like to keep it just one word after 'Reds', hope that was okay. Plus, my own selection of cartoon-thingies -(P

bishes

[hotreds]

http://assets.motivationalgenerator.com/hashed_silo_content/silo_content/35769/resized/REDS.jpg

[elderboy02]

I just loved seeing Turd Rolen foul out with the bases loaded. Thanks Dusty, you POS for putting him in the lineup. It was great watching Frasier on the bench :tu

[Brian D.]

Reds tied, Reds tied! (As of a couple minutes ago.)

[Starscream]

Rolen on the DL.

We are now 1-5 against the Expos this year.

[chippewastud79]

Can anyone besides Votto hit on this team? The guy has no protection, empty bases and no pitches to hit. :bh

[chippewastud79]

Rolen on the DL.

We are now 1-5 against the Expos this year.

Its about time, hopefully Costanzo helps somehow. :tu

Just be glad that the Reds missed Strausburg in the rotation. Their 1-5 are all tough, much tougher than the Reds. Leake going tomorrow for the sweep. :bh

[chippewastud79]

My mistake, Arroyo pitching today :bh

[elderboy02]

Its about time, hopefully Costanzo helps somehow. :tu
...

He did have a nice Sac fly today :tu

[chippewastud79]

He did have a nice Sac fly today :tu

He and Votto are the total offense today. :bh

[hotreds]

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0706/a_ldisgust_0604.jpg

[Starscream]

George Costanza with a sac fly today.

[hotreds]

Vot-to

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[chippewastud79]

Votto wins! Votto wins!


Looks like he single-handedly won that game for them today. Responsible for 7 of their 9 runs. It would be nice if someone besides Votto would come to play everyday. :bh

[hotreds]

Stubbs sucks!

[Starscream]

Looks like he single-handedly won that game for them today. Responsible for 7 of their 9 runs. It would be nice if someone besides Votto would come to play everyday. :bh

Cueto and Chapman come to play too.

[elderboy02]

Cueto and Chapman come to play too.

And Ondrusek, Jay Bruce, Hannigan

[chippewastud79]

Cueto and Chapman come to play too.

And Ondrusek, Jay Bruce, Hannigan

Cueto, Chapman and Andrusek don't play everyday, but they are all probably All-Stars. ;)

Bruce and Hannigan have been playing well too. ;s

If Votto had a bad day yesterday, they get run off the field. Votto single handedly won the game with very minimal help from the rest of the team. The Reds were out-played, but Votto found a way to save the game. :tu

[elderboy02]

...
If Votto had a bad day yesterday, they get run off the field. Votto single handedly won the game with very minimal help from the rest of the team. The Reds were out-played, but Votto found a way to save the game. :tu

Agreed on all counts. Joey is definitely the MVP. That is also why the Reds locked him up long term.

[hotreds]

Yay! We ALL ageree with Larry!

[chippewastud79]

Agreed on all counts. Joey is definitely the MVP. That is also why the Reds locked him up long term.

He is the Reds MVP and he has to be for them to be competitive. Its too bad that his numbers started out a little slow, Kemp's hot start probably makes him the NL MVP if they continue at similar paces throughout the season. :tu

[elderboy02]

He is the Reds MVP and he has to be for them to be competitive. Its too bad that his numbers started out a little slow, Kemp's hot start probably makes him the NL MVP if they continue at similar paces throughout the season. :tu

I agree. Sorry I meant that he is definitely the Reds MVP. I didn't mean all of the NL, though he could be again.

[hotreds]

http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/demotivational-posters-i-can-feel-the-love.jpg

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[Brian D.]

Get out the broom we may see a "sweep".

[hotreds]

Getting too damn positive in here......

[hotreds]

THAT's more like it!

http://rumorsandrants.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/dusty-baker-cincinnati-reds.jpg

[Brian D.]

Put away the broom get out the vacuum, Reds are back to sucking!

[Starscream]

Cueto was bound to have a bad day sooner or later. Not worried about him at all.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[hotreds]

Stubbs sucks

[kelmac07]

Way to beat up our bullpen fellas. :bh :bh

[elderboy02]

Way to beat up our bullpen fellas. :bh :bh

I am just happy to get a win against stud Santana

[chippewastud79]

Way to beat up our bullpen fellas. :bh

Looks like the Mets got the Reds bullpen today. ;)

First run given up by Chapman, who was working two days in a row for the first time all season. He looked less than dominate with no rest. At least he maintained his 0.00 ERA because Stubbs dropped a fly ball. :hm

Andruseck also gave up his first runs of the year, 5 of them. :jd

[Starscream]

That was ugly.

[chippewastud79]

That was ugly.

The first 5 weren't bad. Watching Chapman and Andrusek pitch was pretty awful. :bh

[kelmac07]

Payback from yesterdays win.

[hotreds]

Stubbs sucks

[Starscream]

Stubbs sucks

That error didn't help his cause today. Tough to get to, but he still should have made that catch.

[chippewastud79]

That error didn't help his cause today. Tough to get to, but he still should have made that catch.

I also liked the one where he, Cozart and Ludwick stared at each other while jogging towards a ball that no one called or made a play on. 0-4 with 3 K's didn't help either. :rolleyes:

[chippewastud79]

Whoopsies :sh

[elderboy02]

Dusty is smoking crack. He should have yanked Arroyo and put in Arredondo.

[chippewastud79]

Dusty is smoking crack. He should have yanked Arroyo and put in Arredondo.

0 runs doesn't win many games. ;)

[Starscream]

Close call today. It's about time the closer role gets shared by a couple of guys. I'm tired of seeing CoCo...oops...Marshall out there potentially blowing the game.

[chippewastud79]

Close call today. It's about time the closer role gets shared by a couple of guys. I'm tired of seeing CoCo...oops...Marshall out there potentially blowing the game.

Nice of the Yankees to put out their B team today, and still being 90 feet away from tying the game. Thanks again Joey. :tu

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

I would like to see Marshall be the set-up guy and Chapman be the closer.

[chippewastud79]

I would like to see Marshall be the set-up guy and Chapman be the closer.

Chapman has pitched once on no rest, gave up a run, and got bailed out by the defense when he loaded the bases. I don't think he can pitch everyday. :sh

[chippewastud79]

Reds Win! Reds Win! Chapman was the Closer! :banger :D :tu :bh :r

IBTD

[Starscream]

4-3 on this road trip. Only one game back at this point. St. Louis is starting to have trouble. We could be only 1/2 a game back after tonight.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :)

Nice to see Roldy close out the game :tu

[Starscream]

In case you already haven't noticed the resemblance, I offer proof that superheroes play baseball:
http://mlb.mlb.com/cutfour/article.jsp?content_id=31727870

Now when can the Reds sign Superman to a contract?

[kelmac07]

Way to put it on the Yankees guys. :tu :tu

[Starscream]

Way to put it on the Yankees guys. :tu :tu

I know the Yankees are struggling a little this year, but I didn't think the Reds had it in them to win the series.

[chippewastud79]

Nice to see Roldy close out the game :tu

Are you giving players nicknames now? :confused:

[chippewastud79]

In case you already haven't noticed the resemblance, I offer proof that superheroes play baseball:
http://mlb.mlb.com/cutfour/article.jsp?content_id=31727870

Now when can the Reds sign Superman to a contract?

Like a guy who leaves the city in shambles when he shows up, and everyone else has to clean up his mess? ;)

[Starscream]

Like a guy who leaves the city in shambles when he shows up, and everyone else has to clean up his mess? ;)

As long as we win it doesn't matter to me.:D

[Starscream]

Berkman out for the season. Sounds like good news at first for us, but then if we win, I'd rather win against a team performing at their best rather than a team missing one of its top hitters.

[chippewastud79]

Berkman out for the season. Sounds like good news at first for us, but then if we win, I'd rather win against a team performing at their best rather than a team missing one of its top hitters.


With the depleted Brewers and Cardinals at the start of the season, I thought the Reds could run away with the division, but they haven't been up to the challenge yet. Maybe every other team getting even weaker will be what the Reds need to figure it out. :confused:

[Starscream]

The offense is slowly waking up. We could still be a player this year, but we've still got a long ways to go to be playoff worthy. One more decent bat in the lineup via trade and we could get it done. The question is, what would we have to give up for that bat? We have nothing in the minors worth crap this year.

[chippewastud79]

The offense is slowly waking up. We could still be a player this year, but we've still got a long ways to go to be playoff worthy. One more decent bat in the lineup via trade and we could get it done. The question is, what would we have to give up for that bat? We have nothing in the minors worth crap this year.

We have some under-achieving outfielders in the Big Show. ;)

[Starscream]

We have some under-achieving outfielders in the Big Show. ;)

Therefore we won't get much for them in any sort of trade.

[never_enough]

Finally get to watch a Reds game since its on ESPN!!!!!!:noon

[elderboy02]

I would like to see what Janish can do once he heals. He was raking in AAA before he got hurt.

[never_enough]

3 HR's in a row!!!!

[Starscream]

Leake first career HR!


Tied for first for a few minutes. Cards up 2-1 in the 8th.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[chippewastud79]

Anyone else find it odd that the Reds play one of their best games, on ESPN, and the highlight they show about the game is a kid who caught 2 homerun balls? :hm

[waffle]

Anyone else find it odd that the Reds play one of their best games, on ESPN, and the highlight they show about the game is a kid who caught 2 homerun balls? :hm

I love that the Cuban Missle found out in the US you CAN go too fast (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7956990/aroldis-chapman-get-more-save-opportunities-cincinnati-reds)!!

[chippewastud79]

I love that the Cuban Missle found out in the US you CAN go too fast (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7956990/aroldis-chapman-get-more-save-opportunities-cincinnati-reds)!!

The speeding, meh, everyone has done it hurrying home from a late night party a 100 miles away from home. The suspended license? Maybe in Cuba they just force you to renew it by lowering your wages. How about the 18 million dollar lawsuit brought against him by a woman in Miami? What is this guy up to? :confused:

[Starscream]

Four in a row. Too bad the Cards are winning right now. Looks like we're going to have to wait a little longer before the Reds take the lead.

[Starscream]

The speeding, meh, everyone has done it hurrying home from a late night party a 100 miles away from home. The suspended license? Maybe in Cuba they just force you to renew it by lowering your wages. How about the 18 million dollar lawsuit brought against him by a woman in Miami? What is this guy up to? :confused:

I'm surprised he was only going 93. His changeup could catch up to that.:D


As for the $18 million lawsuit, I think he has nothing to worry about.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[waffle]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu

Adds EVERYTHING to the conversation ;)

[elderboy02]

...
As for the $18 million lawsuit, I think he has nothing to worry about.

I don't think he has to worry. Seems all very unprovable.

[Starscream]

Five wins in a row. Is it too early to get out the brooms for tomorrow?

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

I would love to see a sweep of the Braves because they are a very good baseball team.

[elderboy02]

Reds sweep! Reds sweep! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[688sonarmen]

Congrats on 1st guys :tu

[elderboy02]

Congrats on 1st guys :tu

Thank you good sir! :tu

[Starscream]

Congrats on 1st guys :tu
You must spread some reputation around before giving to 688sonarmen again.




Now introducing, your first place CINCINNATI REDS!!!!! :banger

Dan, please make some Kool-Aid b/c I'm about to start drinking it.:D

[Starscream]

Reds sweep! Reds sweep! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

First four game sweep of the Braves since 1980? Wow! I'm impressed!

[Davidnft]

Went to my first game of the season last night. Great game! Grand slam. My kids loved the fire out of the stack after a strikeout. Very cool!

[elderboy02]

Went to my first game of the season last night. Great game! Grand slam. My kids loved the fire out of the stack after a strikeout. Very cool!

Congrats! There were fireworks after the game, correct?

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[waffle]

Pretty nice game to be at! A bit muggy, but its always fun when 10 runs are scored!

[Starscream]

I feel bad for Moyer. Latos got a lot of praise on the radio, but if it weren't for the seven runs we scored, he would have never pitched after the fifth inning. I'm still not buying the "he's going to be our future ace" line.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[chippewastud79]

I feel bad for Moyer. Latos got a lot of praise on the radio, but if it weren't for the seven runs we scored, he would have never pitched after the fifth inning. I'm still not buying the "he's going to be our future ace" line.

Don't you listen to Cincinnati media? Latos is the future ace, Stubbs is the best CF in the MLB, Bruce is a future MVP, Chapman is the next Eckersley.........;s

Moyer is like 63 years old. When are the Reds going to face a decent pitcher? They are doing a great job of beating bad pitchers, but this doesn't bode well if they win this weak division. :sh

[Starscream]

Don't you listen to Cincinnati media? Latos is the future ace, Stubbs is the best CF in the MLB, Bruce is a future MVP, Chapman is the next Eckersley.........;s

Moyer is like 63 years old. When are the Reds going to face a decent pitcher? They are doing a great job of beating bad pitchers, but this doesn't bode well if they win this weak division. :sh
They were successful in NY and ATL against good pitching.

If Dusty didn't put up that horseshit lineup today on Memorial Day, we could be beating McDonald right now.

[elderboy02]

Don't you listen to Cincinnati media? ...Stubbs is the best CF in the MLB...


You know, I am tired of hearing this BS. Send me a link where someone says this. I have never heard anyone on TV, on the internet, or in the papers say Stubbs is the best CF in MLB.

[chippewastud79]

You know, I am tired of hearing this BS. Send me a link where someone says this. I have never heard anyone on TV, on the internet, or in the papers say Stubbs is the best CF in MLB.

You never watch a game on FSNOhio? My wife laughs when they make claims like that about Stubbs. Granted, I am just paraphrasing, but I have heard:

"He has the best range in CF in the MLB"
"He might be the fastest CF in the NL"
"Thats Gold Glove defense right there" on routine plays.

:hm

[chippewastud79]

If Dusty didn't put up that horseshit lineup today on Memorial Day, we could be beating McDonald right now.

I am not sure when Dusty comes up with lineups like he threw out there today. Its almost like he puts names in a hat sometimes. Seriously, lets take a guy who is 1-11 in his last 3 games and throw him in the leadoff :confused:

[elderboy02]

You never watch a game on FSNOhio? My wife laughs when they make claims like that about Stubbs. Granted, I am just paraphrasing, but I have heard:

"He has the best range in CF in the MLB"
"He might be the fastest CF in the NL"
"Thats Gold Glove defense right there" on routine plays.

:hm

Those comments are talking about range, and speed. They never say, "He is the best CF in baseball", because he is not due to his hitting or lack thereof

[chippewastud79]

Those comments are talking about range, and speed. They never say, "He is the best CF in baseball", because he is not due to his hitting or lack thereof

Defensively, they have certainly made assertions comparable to blatantly saying that he is the best defensive outfielder in baseball. Luckily the past two seasons they have backed off the Rickey comparisons as the best leadoff hitter in baseball, because clearly the guy cannot get on base. His below .300 OBP and Dusty still has him an 1 or 2? :td

Oh and the Bleacher Report had him as 'Poised to be a 'Breakout Player' prior to the 2011 and 2012 season. Whoopsies :bh

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :banger :banger :tu

Homer Bailey was dealing last night. Complete game! :tu

[hotreds]

Would be a wonderful thing if Bailey finally "got it!" Oh, and Stubbs sucks.

[chippewastud79]

Nice job by Dusty to sit Votto down last night with his 'Ace' on the mound. All they can manage is one run that the Pirates gave to them. :sh

[elderboy02]

Dusty and Stubbs suck!

[chippewastud79]

Dusty and Stubbs suck!

At this rate, if the Reds miss the playoffs, there can't be much blame on anyone but Dusty. The division will likely come down to a few games and Dusty has already given away at least 5 with the lineup cards he turns in some days, or the inability to monitor his pitchers effectively. :bh

Stubbs got 2 walks last night, which is amazing, considering he watches good pitches and swings at terrible ones. He stood there and watched pitches and Burnett still couldn't hit the strike-zone. :sh

How about some more crap with Chapman and his wife being tied up in a hotel room? He is pitching lights out, but all this off-the-field stuff has to become a distraction at some point. :2

[elderboy02]

...
How about some more crap with Chapman and his wife being tied up in a hotel room? He is pitching lights out, but all this off-the-field stuff has to become a distraction at some point. :2

It isn't Chapman's fault with the hotel room stuff. His girlfriend is too dumb and didn't check with the front desk to see if a maintenance man was really trying to work on the room.

[chippewastud79]

It isn't Chapman's fault with the hotel room stuff. His girlfriend is too dumb and didn't check with the front desk to see if a maintenance man was really trying to work on the room.

I didn't say it was his fault, just pointing out that eventually all this crap with him has got to wear on him. :confused:

[elderboy02]

I didn't say it was his fault, just pointing out that eventually all this crap with him has got to wear on him. :confused:

Yeah, dude needs to cut all of the drama out of his life. I saw an article that his "girlfriend" that got "robbed" was a stripper and she stole money from some dude and was charged with theft.

[chippewastud79]

Yeah, dude needs to cut all of the drama out of his life. I saw an article that his "girlfriend" that got "robbed" was a stripper and she stole money from some dude and was charged with theft.

Turns out she may be engaged to another man and was found less than fully clothed in the room. This certainly sounds like a weird situation, but athletes on the road have laundry lists of girls, but I think she just got taken off his list. :rolleyes:

[hotreds]

Looks like Chapman was really bothered!

[chippewastud79]

Reds winning some games against the powerhouse Astros. I do appreciate Matt 'I pitched in Petco Park with 500' fences, thanks for trading away your farm sytem for me' Latos blowing an 8-2 lead. :sh

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[Starscream]

First Sunday loss of the season...

[Brian D.]

Reds idle! Reds idle!

:banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[chippewastud79]

Reds idle! Reds idle!

:banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

Thanks Brian.

[Starscream]

Reds draft a pitcher who only played one year of high school ball as their first pick. Way to go, Cincinnati.

[chippewastud79]

Reds draft a pitcher who only played one year of high school ball as their first pick. Way to go, Cincinnati.

He's the next Homer Bailey :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[elderboy02]

Reds draft a pitcher who only played one year of high school ball as their first pick. Way to go, Cincinnati.

He has a fresh arm. The guy who scouted him scouted Matt Cain and he said that he reminds him of Cain :tu

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! Chapman is a beast! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[hotreds]

Chapman is a beast! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

That's what SHE said!

[Starscream]

He has a fresh arm. The guy who scouted him scouted Matt Cain and he said that he reminds him of Cain :tu

Yeah, but remember the scouts that said Stubbs was the next Ricky Henderson.;s

[Starscream]

That's what SHE said!

She said that about the guy who robbed her in the hotel, not about Chapman.:D

[chippewastud79]

Yeah, but remember the scouts that said Stubbs was the next Ricky Henderson.;s

:r:r:r:r

[chippewastud79]

Chapman pitches 2 days in a row and gets a loss. :hm

[hotreds]

Stubbs sucks!

[elderboy02]

Stubbs sucks!

You forgot Chapman too. He has to suck if he can't pitch 2 days in a row :p

[chippewastud79]

You forgot Chapman too. He has to suck if he can't pitch 2 days in a row :p

Who, besides you, has said Chapman sucks? :confused:

[elderboy02]

Who, besides you, has said Chapman sucks? :confused:

I think the whole team sucks! :r We shouldn't be in 1st place! :r Lets sell the team :r

[Starscream]

I think the whole team sucks! :r We shouldn't be in 1st place! :r Lets sell the team :r

We got hot in May but we're slowly cooling off. Hopefully this round of interleague will put us on another win streak.

[chippewastud79]

I think the whole team sucks! :r We shouldn't be in 1st place! :r Lets sell the team :r

Blah Blah Blah Homer Homer Homer. :rolleyes:


I don't think any one is surprised they are in first place. The two teams that finished ahead of them last year got rid of their sluggers and the Cardinals are putting their entire team on the DL. Once again, the division is settling in to be the weakest in baseball. ;)

[Brian D.]

Reds.....

[Brian D.]

....win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :banger :banger :tu

Man, I wish we would stop playing these weak teams Adam :rolleyes:

[chippewastud79]

Man, I wish we would stop playing these weak teams Adam :rolleyes:

Its a shame when you show your homerism with statements like that. Yeah, the powerhouse Tigers, they are only 6 games below .500. After Verlander, they don't have a lot of pitching, and Verlander is struggling. But hey, the Reds beat them, so they must be World Series favorites. :r

Pittsburgh is the only team they have played in the last 5 series with a winning record, and they got it by beating the Reds. ;)

[icehog3]

Deserved or not, take it easy on my Tigers, Adam! :lr

[chippewastud79]

Spent 15 years of my life living in Michigan. I do like the Tigers, and I really expected them to be having a much better season. Sufice to say, they are definitely struggling thus far and their division is playing tough. Just not that surprised the Reds beat Porcello et al yesterday. Nice outing by Verlander today though. Would have been nice to see him continue to pitch had he not needed to bat. :hm

[elderboy02]

..Would have been nice to see him continue to pitch had he not needed to bat. :hm

I would have liked to see him continue pitching because I think we would have won. I like seeing him have to bat. I cannot stand the stupid DH rule.

[icehog3]

I would have liked to see him continue pitching because I think we would have won. I like seeing him have to bat. I cannot stand the stupid DH rule.

Hope you enjoyed the game, despite the outcome.

Can I say it in your thread? Can I, can I??

Tigers Win! :wo :banger :banger :banger :wo

[elderboy02]

Hope you enjoyed the game, despite the outcome.


It was a fun game to watch! Verlander is wicked.

[Brian D.]

Sure would like to go see the Tigers play at home. Not because I look forward to seeing Detroit (that's an old indian word for 'carry TWO handguns' ;)) but Camacho has a cigar bar in the Tiger's stadium. Technically you can't light up at Great American Ball Park from ther moment you step off the public sidewalk and onto stadium property.

[hotreds]

Hope you enjoyed the game, despite the outcome.

Can I say it in your thread? Can I, can I??

Tigers Win!

You wouldn't be the only Reds hater to be in here! :banger:sl:gary:sh;s

[icehog3]

You wouldn't be the only Reds hater to be in here! :banger:sh;s

I don't hate the Reds, Hugh, but I love the Tigers. :)

[hotreds]

Well, I guess that narrows the field by one, then.

[elderboy02]

Well, I guess that narrows the field by one, then.

:r Bravo! Brilliant! :r :banger

[chippewastud79]

I don't hate the Reds, Hugh, but I love the Tigers. :)

I don't think anyone in this thread hates the Reds. :confused:

[icehog3]

I don't think anyone in this thread hates the Reds. :confused:

I been maliciously accused!! :mad:

[Starscream]

ESPN tonight!

[icehog3]

ESPN tonight!

What a coincidence! The Tigers, too! :wo

[Starscream]

What a coincidence! The Tigers, too! :wo

Wow! Imagine that.;)

[Starscream]

Both the homeplate umpire and the bullpen have made my blood pressure rise tonight...

[elderboy02]

Both the homeplate umpire and the bullpen have made my blood pressure rise tonight...

Yep. Angel Hernandez absolutely blows. Pitches practically in the dirt are strikes now? :td

[elderboy02]

That was a tough loss. Oh well, win most, lose some.

Is Valverde the slowest pitcher in MLB history? Geez.

[chippewastud79]

Yep. Angel Hernandez absolutely blows. Pitches practically in the dirt are strikes now? :td

Which pitches did they show that he called strike were attrocious? The pitch tracker showed most of his calls were pretty close or correct. Chapman blew it, plain and simple. :td

[chippewastud79]

Is Valverde the slowest pitcher in MLB history? Geez.

Not even close. :rolleyes:

[chippewastud79]

That was a tough loss. Oh well, win four, lose six.



;)

[icehog3]

I am officially done rooting against the Reds for the 2012 season. Thank you for not flaming me for being a Tigers fan. :)

[elderboy02]

Which pitches did they show that he called strike were attrocious? ...

I guess you didn't watch the game. Orel Herschiser (spelling?) even said that he is usually on the side of the pitcher, but the hitters were getting hosed. On Ludwick's "strikes" they were well below the bottom of the strike zone. Francona said, "Well the strike zone bottom is the hollow of the knees, but those were at the shins"

[elderboy02]

I am officially done rooting against the Reds for the 2012 season. Thank you for not flaming me for being a Tigers fan. :)

I thought you usually root for the Cubs?

[Brian D.]

Which pitches did they show that he called strike were attrocious? The pitch tracker showed most of his calls were pretty close or correct. Chapman blew it, plain and simple. :td

That could be partly due to the fact that sometimes the folks televising the game don't show the pitch tracker when it makes the ump look bad. That's a trend I've noticed over the last couple years, makes me wonder if MLB doesn't put some pressure on the broadcasters.

Of course Chapman just didn't have it last night, no disputing that.

[icehog3]

I thought you usually root for the Cubs?

In the National League....born and raised in Detroit though, been a Tigers gan since '67, Dan. :)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Shack7que.jpg

[hotreds]

You saw the glory Tigers of '68, then! Denny McLain, Denny Mclain, there's never been any like Denny McLain !

[icehog3]

You saw the glory Tigers of '68, then! Denny McLain, Denny Mclain, there's never been any like Denny McLain !

I did, though Lolich was the savior of the Series that year. 31 wins for Denny will never be matched again with the advent of the 5-man rotation. My favorite player of that era though? Willie Horton. :)

[Starscream]

Which pitches did they show that he called strike were attrocious? The pitch tracker showed most of his calls were pretty close or correct. Chapman blew it, plain and simple. :td
You didn't see any of Ludwick's at bats last night? He's usually a guy who will go down and make contact with low pitches out of the zone, but after he called out Hernandez's poor calling during his first at bat, Hernandez called pitches at Ludwick's ankles for strikes. To be fair, Hernandez was consistant at it though and had a low strike zone all night. I also thought the interference call on Mez wasn't legit either. It wasn't the umpires that blew the game last night, it was the bullpen. But Hernandez still made my blood pressure rise last night.


Chapman? You forgot about Arrendondo, Marshall, and Ondruseck blowing it too.;) Only guy in the pen who was worth a damn last night was Simon.

[Starscream]

I am officially done rooting against the Reds for the 2012 season. Thank you for not flaming me for being a Tigers fan. :)
It's been fun, Admiral.:tu

[chippewastud79]

You didn't see any of Ludwick's at bats last night? He's usually a guy who will go down and make contact with low pitches out of the zone, but after he called out Hernandez's poor calling during his first at bat, Hernandez called pitches at Ludwick's ankles for strikes. To be fair, Hernandez was consistant at it though and had a low strike zone all night. I also thought the interference call on Mez wasn't legit either. It wasn't the umpires that blew the game last night, it was the bullpen. But Hernandez still made my blood pressure rise last night.


Chapman? You forgot about Arrendondo, Marshall, and Ondruseck blowing it too.;) Only guy in the pen who was worth a damn last night was Simon.

Consistent, even when it was consistently bad. There has been a lot of bad umpiring this season and maybe last night was not exception, but the Reds still lost it without the umpire intervention. You can't get on an umps bad side. It never ends well. :2

Chapman still had the 3 run lead before he gave up 4, 2 of them were his own. I was surprised at how poorly he pitched, barely threw strikes last night. Hope he hasn't lost his control (again), because patient batter will be drawing a lot of walks if he pitches like that. :td

[357]

Glad to see the Tigs win a series against an above .500 team. FWIW, I think those pitch trackers are worthless. They're way off. It seems that they show the mark on the box as to where the ball is when it impacts the catcher's glove. The plate is long from front to back. The ball only has to graze that 3-D box.

I'm not making excuses for bad calls. I agree Angel blew some. I'm not a fan of his. I think Adam's right about consistency though. As long as it's the same for both sides the players should be able to adjust.

[Starscream]

Consistent, even when it was consistently bad. There has been a lot of bad umpiring this season and maybe last night was not exception, but the Reds still lost it without the umpire intervention. You can't get on an umps bad side. It never ends well. :2

Chapman still had the 3 run lead before he gave up 4, 2 of them were his own. I was surprised at how poorly he pitched, barely threw strikes last night. Hope he hasn't lost his control (again), because patient batter will be drawing a lot of walks if he pitches like that. :td

Agreed on all counts.

[chippewastud79]

Agreed on all counts.

Holy crap, a baseball fan and not a homer, don't let Dan see this. :r

[waffle]

Holy crap, a baseball fan and not a homer, don't let Dan see this. :r

LoL, you cant win them all as the Reds are soooo good at showing us, they had the spotlight and everyone talking about how amazing their bullpen is and then the bullpen decided to implode on itself. It almost seemed like Chapman had such a high confidence level and then gave up the run to end his streak and is completely shaken. He just is not pitching the same that he had been to start the season. You can't complain about an ump when the ump is making the same calls for both sides. I LOVE the Reds, but they just blew it and there is no one to blame but themselves, the bullpen absolutely poo'ed the bed with a 3 run lead.

[Starscream]

I am officially done rooting against the Reds for the 2012 season. Thank you for not flaming me for being a Tigers fan. :)

Hey Tom, you gonna come in here this series and root against the Indians this series? The Tigers need all the help they can get and watching the Indians lose a series will help.

[icehog3]

Hey Tom, you gonna come in here this series and root against the Indians this series? The Tigers need all the help they can get and watching the Indians lose a series will help.

I am the second biggest Reds fan in this thread for the next 3 days, Andy. :)

[Starscream]

I'm assuming Dan is the biggest Reds fan in this thread?:)

[357]

I'll root for them for a bit too. Go Reds! Beat the tribe.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

Nice complete game for Johnny.

[icehog3]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

Nice complete game for Johnny.

I approved this message.

[Starscream]

We needed that win.

[Brian D.]

Uh, where's the

"Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger" today?

[elderboy02]

Reds won last night! Reds won last night! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[icehog3]

Reds won last night! Reds won last night! :tu :banger :tu :banger

And today! :banger

[elderboy02]

Reds sweep! Reds sweep! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[waffle]

How bout Dusty and D.Lowe having a little dislike (http://deadspin.com/5918516/derek-lowe-and-dusty-baker-are-having-the-greatest-feud-ever)....???

[elderboy02]

How bout Dusty and D.Lowe having a little dislike (http://deadspin.com/5918516/derek-lowe-and-dusty-baker-are-having-the-greatest-feud-ever)....???

I love how Dusty owned up to telling Latos to brush him off the plate. He is an old school manager ;)

[357]

Nicely done Reds. Any more AL Central teams on your schedule? ;)

[Starscream]

How bout Dusty and D.Lowe having a little dislike (http://deadspin.com/5918516/derek-lowe-and-dusty-baker-are-having-the-greatest-feud-ever)....???
I still don't get where the hatred started.
Nicely done Reds. Any more AL Central teams on your schedule? ;)

I wish.:tu

[elderboy02]

I still don't get where the hatred started..

Neither do I. It sounds like dusty was insinuating that the pitcher was an alcoholic because he said "He was probably drunk". I know Dusty didn't like him in '09 or '10 when he hit Votto.

[waffle]

Nicely done Reds. Any more AL Central teams on your schedule? ;)

The Indians M,T,W & the Twins F,S,S ;) thats the way the Reds roll :o

[secretsquirrel]

Bruce in the parker.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger:banger:banger:banger:noon

[chippewastud79]

The Indians M,T,W & the Twins F,S,S ;) thats the way the Reds roll :o

Lot of games against the weakest and 2nd weakest division in baseball, thats the way the Reds roll. :tu

[kelmac07]

Nice win last night. :bh :bh

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger:banger:noon:banger:tu

[elderboy02]

Chapman pitches 2 days in a row and gets a loss. :hm



Well, Chapman just pitched back to back games and didn't give up a run... :hm

[chippewastud79]

Well, Chapman just pitched back to back games and didn't give up a run... :hm

Future Hall of Famer, for sure. He has yet to prove he can pitch everyday, like a closer or every 5 days like a starter. ;)

[elderboy02]

He has yet to prove he can pitch everyday, like a closer

he just did yesterday ;)

[icehog3]

If only yesterday was everyday.......

[chippewastud79]

he just did yesterday ;)

And one day Drew Stubbs hit in the leadoff like he was Rickey, so he must have proved he is a great leadoff hitter. ;)

[chippewastud79]

he just did yesterday ;)

10 appearances out of 25 games isn't exactly closer work. ;)

[Starscream]

21 games to go till the All-Star break. 50 wins by the break is optimistic, but it's very possible at this point.

[elderboy02]

Reds sweep! Reds sweep! :banger:tu:banger:tu:banger

We haven't lost since last Sun!

[Starscream]

11 games over .500. 6 game winning streak. I'm impressed, especially with what's been in the lineups lately. Cairo, Valdez, and... Harris?

[elderboy02]

11 games over .500. 6 game winning streak. I'm impressed, especially with what's been in the lineups lately. Cairo, Valdez, and... Harris?

[Alan Cutler] Pitching, Pitching, Pitching, Pitching, Pitching [/Alan Cutler]

[elderboy02]

It looks like Scott Rolen comes back to us today :td

[Starscream]

It looks like Scott Rolen comes back to us today :td

Good thing he comes back this week when we have a DH. That way Frazier will still get in the lineup in one form or another.

[elderboy02]

Good thing he comes back this week when we have a DH. That way Frazier will still get in the lineup in one form or another.

Very true. I hate seeing Frazier benched.

[Starscream]

Very true. I hate seeing Frazier benched.

I've got a feeling that Rolen will be healthy enough to play for about two weeks.

[Starscream]

BTW, did anyone else see the through the legs pass by Phillips to start the double play yesterday?

[hotreds]

Amazing!

[elderboy02]

BTW, did anyone else see the through the legs pass by Phillips to start the double play yesterday?

Yep, I watched it on TV and I was like "Holy $hit!"

@DatDudeBP is a freaking pimp.

[icehog3]

I am a Reds fan again for this series. :D :wo :banger :D :banger

[Starscream]

I am a Reds fan again for this series. :D :wo :banger :D :banger

We went on a 6 game streak last time you were a fan, so maybe we'll have another winning streak!
Sweep!

[Starscream]

Not baseball related, but I read the Cincinnati chili photo thread/article today, but as of this evening I can't find it. It was at cincinnati.com (the enquirer site). Anybody that finds it, please link it here. I want to come to cincy for a Reds game, but I'd rather go to cincy for some 5-way chili and a Reds game on the side.

[chippewastud79]

Not baseball related, but I read the Cincinnati chili photo thread/article today, but as of this evening I can't find it. It was at cincinnati.com (the enquirer site). Anybody that finds it, please link it here. I want to come to cincy for a Reds game, but I'd rather go to cincy for some 5-way chili and a Reds game on the side.

I'll buy the 5-way, if you ever get here. :tu

[chippewastud79]

Not Cincinnati Chili related, but it looks like the Battle of Ohio turned into batting practice tonight. :hm

[chippewastud79]

Another quality start from Latos. :bh

WINdians end the streak. :banger:tu :banger :tu

[icehog3]

We went on a 6 game streak last time you were a fan, so maybe we'll have another winning streak!
Sweep!

:mad: :td

C'mon Reds!

[Starscream]

Latos said the Indians were stealing signs last night. Good for Cleveland. It's a wonder with our average w/ RISP why we don't do the same.

[chippewastud79]

Latos said the Indians were stealing signs last night. Good for Cleveland. It's a wonder with our average w/ RISP why we don't do the same.

When your ERA is over 5.0, you don't have the luxury of crying foul. Thats like Stubbs claiming that the pitchers are greasing the ball when he strikes out. :td

[Starscream]

When your ERA is over 5.0, you don't have the luxury of crying foul. Thats like Stubbs claiming that the pitchers are greasing the ball when he strikes out. :td

Quote of the night was from an unnamed Indians hitter:

Finally, an unnamed Indians hitter said this:

“Tell him you don’t have to steal signs when you’re tipping pitches.”


Talking smack to Latos. I love it! Some bad blood between Lowe and Dusty, now this. Maybe some action will go down at the park tonight.

[chippewastud79]

Dominate closer work by Chapman today. Hope his arm isn't getting tired being the everyday closer. Oh wait, he splits those duties. :hm

[Starscream]

What a letdown...

[Stephen]

Dominate closer work by Chapman today. Hope his arm isn't getting tired being the everyday closer. Oh wait, he splits those duties. :hm
Last couple of weeks he's gotten rocked. What gives?

[elderboy02]

Last couple of weeks he's gotten rocked. What gives?

I have heard from a couple guys now that his back was bothering him.

[chippewastud79]

I have heard from a couple guys now that his back was bothering him.

You got some friends in the clubhouse? :confused:

[chippewastud79]

Last couple of weeks he's gotten rocked. What gives?

Cuban Missle Crisis. ;)

[elderboy02]

You got some friends in the clubhouse? :confused:

Oh yeah, you know it :rolleyes:

[Starscream]

I have heard from a couple guys now that his back was bothering him.

What is your source on this or is this just speculation? It sounds feasible, but I haven't heard anything from Fay or any of the other Reds media coverage.

[Stephen]

Cuban Missle Crisis. ;)
Nice.

[elderboy02]

What is your source on this or is this just speculation? It sounds feasible, but I haven't heard anything from Fay or any of the other Reds media coverage.

From Lance McAlister's (1530 HOMER radio host) twitter 17 hours ago:

"As Dusty said on pregame last night ... Chapman has been bothered by lower back issues #Reds"

https://twitter.com/#!/LanceMcAlister

[chippewastud79]

From Lance McAlister's (1530 HOMER radio host) twitter 17 hours ago:

"As Dusty said on pregame last night ... Chapman has been bothered by lower back issues #Reds"

https://twitter.com/#!/LanceMcAlister

An excuse after he gives up the homerun. :confused:

[chippewastud79]

Last couple of weeks he's gotten rocked. What gives?

Last 6 appearances, given up runs in 4 of them, 3 losses and 2 blown saves. He still hasn't proved he can handle anything more than spot duty without getting worn down. :rolleyes:

[elderboy02]

An excuse after he gives up the homerun. :confused:

Reading is fundamental. This was pre-game

[chippewastud79]

Reading is fundamental. This was pre-game

I read it correctly, no confusion here. He didn't bother to give the excuse until after he blew the game ;)

Chapman blows the game.

then

'Dusty said in pregame that his back was bothering him.'

If he doesn't give up the homerun, the twitter likely never happens. :2

[chippewastud79]

This just in from tweeter:

Arroyo said before the game he had some bad fried chicken, could be the reason the Reds lost tonight.

:tu

[hotreds]

Studly, your record continues to skip. It sure is getting awful tiresome to hear your constant piling on in this thread. This thread is for Reds fans- which you aren't. So please do us fans a favor and maybe start a Reds haters thread where you can post your bombast all the time and those of us that support the Reds don't have to read it. Sorry, but it sure is getting old to deal with your pablum everytime the Reds lose, and your deafening silence when they win.:2

[chippewastud79]

Studly, your record continues to skip. It sure is getting awful tiresome to hear your constant piling on in this thread. This thread is for Reds fans- which you aren't. So please do us fans a favor and maybe start a Reds haters thread where you can post your bombast all the time and those of us that support the Reds don't have to read it. Sorry, but it sure is getting old to deal with your pablum everytime the Reds lose, and your deafening silence when they win.:2

Thank you for telling me where my loyalties lie. Not a Reds hater by any means, just far from a homer. Sorry I can't only stop by when they win to post. I post when they win, I post when they lose. Apparently nothing negative shall ever be posted in this thread. Unfortunately, without Andrew and I, there wouldn't be much of a sports discussion in this thread. I am a sports fan first, I am a realist, I call it like I see it, without the blind faith of claiming everything Reds related is gold. ;s

[hotreds]

http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2009/1/15/128765580982297513.jpg

[icehog3]

Reds drop 3 to one of the Tigers' rivals. I am not happy with the Reds right now.

[hotreds]

You're not the only one! Go on a nice winning streak then- BAM- losing streak. Sweep the Indians- BAM- they sweep you. It is frustrating for certain! Hopefully then can get back on the right track vs the Twinkees!

[elderboy02]

You're not the only one! Go on a nice winning streak then- BAM- losing streak. Sweep the Indians- BAM- they sweep you. It is frustrating for certain! Hopefully then can get back on the right track vs the Twinkees!

+1. Lets hope a day off helps them.

[chippewastud79]

Does Stubbs deserve his spot back in CF after the way Heisey and Ludwick have been playing in his absence? :hm

[elderboy02]

Does Stubbs deserve his spot back in CF after the way Heisey and Ludwick have been playing in his absence? :hm

Yes. Stubbs is a heck of a lot better defensively.

[Brian D.]

Reds...:fp

[hotreds]

Might be time to rethink Chapman as closer. I sure hope he doesn't flop. Lotta money invested but the harder you throw it the further they hit it- and today's HR was creamed! Face palm fer sher!

[elderboy02]

Yesterday: Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu

Today: :td

[chippewastud79]

Latos pitches like the pitcher they traded away their entire farm system for, albeit against one of the worst hitting teams in the league. He did look good tonight though, and its a good thing Dusty didn't pick up the phone to call in his closer tonight and let him finish it out. :tu

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :banger

[hotreds]

A needed victory, but Larry is right; the planets were misaligned and that had Brewer bats swing a few inches off thus causing them to miss the ball many times. Perhaps, Larry, the recent solar flares will re-align the pattern and the Reds will resume losing. It's freakin' cosmic!

[elderboy02]

A needed victory, but Larry is right; the planets were misaligned and that had Brewer bats swing a few inches off thus causing them to miss the ball many times. Perhaps, Larry, the recent solar flares will re-align the pattern and the Reds will resume losing. It's freakin' cosmic!

+1. I wish the solar flares would quit acting up so that Cozart could actually get a hit and not strike out. Also, maybe the whole team would hit better if it weren't for the misalignment of the planets.

[hotreds]

I think I'd tell my batters not to swing at any pitch Chapman throws. He might just walk the ballpark until he realizes what's happening and throw some balls down the middle of the plate. Good victory, but Chapman does not inspire confidence at this point.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu

I loved the 2 front rolls after he got the save. :) Apparently, Dusty did not and I see his point. I think Votto gets drilled tomorrow.