Red's Fans Check in

[chippewastud79]

Look who found some offense. Hell, even Stubbs broke out of his 5 for 38 slump. Nice to play some losing teams every once in a while to hover over .500 :tu

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :) :tu

[Starscream]

Look who found some offense. Hell, even Stubbs broke out of his 5 for 38 slump. Nice to play some losing teams every once in a while to hover over .500 :tu

Reds win! Reds win! :banger : :banger :tu
But we are still tied with the Bucs.:sad

[chippewastud79]

But we are still tied with the Bucs.:sad

This is the best team they have had in years and they are still squallering in mediocrity. The schedule is eating them alive right now, they can't beat a winning team and don't even look good against mediocre/bad teams. :td

Ironically enough, the homers on FSN-OH said that the Yankees series was a potential World Series preview. That made me literally laugh out loud at my television. Its statements like that that remind me why I don't care for local broadcasts on a regular basis. :rolleyes:

[Starscream]

This is the best team they have had in years and they are still squallering in mediocrity. The schedule is eating them alive right now, they can't beat a winning team and don't even look good against mediocre/bad teams. :td

Ironically enough, the homers on FSN-OH said that the Yankees series was a potential World Series preview. That made me literally laugh out loud at my television. Its statements like that that remind me why I don't care for local broadcasts on a regular basis. :rolleyes:

Listen to the radio. Marty and Brantley are always pretty cynical and truthful about the team. I prefer listening to those two any day of the week.

[chippewastud79]

Listen to the radio. Marty and Brantley are always pretty cynical and truthful about the team. I prefer listening to those two any day of the week.

I am a visual guy, need the pictures. ;) In the car I will listen on the radio, last time I did, however, Marty kept saying the final score wrong (about 19 times) :rolleyes:

[Starscream]

I am a visual guy, need the pictures. ;) In the car I will listen on the radio, last time I did, however, Marty kept saying the final score wrong (about 19 times) :rolleyes:

tv on, sound off and the radio going. Radio's only about 5 seconds ahead of the tv.:r


I had fun tricking my wife last week predicting pitches that way.

[elderboy02]

tv on, sound off and the radio going. Radio's only about 5 seconds ahead of the tv.:r


I had fun tricking my wife last week predicting pitches that way.

Dang it Andy! Stop quoting Adam. I have to read his posts if you quote him :r

[chippewastud79]

Dang it Andy! Stop quoting Adam. I have to read his posts if you quote him :r

You don't read them normally? Is that why you don't have any sports discussion when questions are posed to you? :confused:

[chippewastud79]

tv on, sound off and the radio going. Radio's only about 5 seconds ahead of the tv.:r


I had fun tricking my wife last week predicting pitches that way.

Does that mean you get to hear Stubbs strikeout before you see it? I kind of like that concept, except I can usually predict it before I see it, like when he steps to the plate. :rolleyes:

[Starscream]

Does that mean you get to hear Stubbs strikeout before you see it? I kind of like that concept, except I can usually predict it before I see it, like when he steps to the plate. :rolleyes:

:r
Yep.

[Starscream]

You don't read them normally? Is that why you don't have any sports discussion when questions are posed to you? :confused:

:confused:



:r

[chippewastud79]

:confused:



:r
Feel free to quote all my posts from now on, Dan can read sports discussion twice. And in turn we can all quote "Reds Win! Reds Win! (5 smilies)".

[Starscream]

Feel free to quote all my posts from now on, Dan can read sports discussion twice. And in turn we can all quote "Reds Win! Reds Win! (5 smilies)"....

[elderboy02]

...

Dang it Andy! You are kind of making the ignore list useless

[Starscream]

Dang it Andy! You are kind of making the ignore list useless

:r

[chippewastud79]

Dang it Andy! You are kind of making the ignore list useless

Why would you have me on the ignore list? Because I try to invoke sports discussion? Because I make fun of Stubbs? :confused:

But I suppose you won't answer, because you won't read it. :sh

[hotreds]

I feel the love. I feel the love.

[chippewastud79]

I feel the love. I feel the love.

Its OK Hugh, I still love you and Karen and coooooookiiiiiieeeeees! :tu

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/4/3/6/6/3/3/1/orig-14366331.jpg

[hotreds]

:tu

[chippewastud79]

Hopefully for the Reds, Reyes is still being shopped. I can't believe how bad Janish and Stubbs are compared to Reyes. Not sure the two of them combined can have the productivity of Reyes. A true leadoff hitter and a very good SS. :hm

[Coach Deg]

At tonights Rays Reds game I think I will smoke an 858 maduro. The dump of a stadium we have has a cigar bar. I plan on getting there at 5:00 to have a pregame smoke.

I posted in Fantasy with no takers. Any of you Reds fans want to put up a five for the troops on the series?????

[elderboy02]

At tonights Rays Reds game I think I will smoke an 858 maduro. The dump of a stadium we have has a cigar bar. I plan on getting there at 5:00 to have a pregame smoke.

I posted in Fantasy with no takers. Any of you Reds fans want to put up a five for the troops on the series?????

I'll take you up on that offer. If I lose, I will bring the smokes to Hugh at our HERF next weekend :tu

[Coach Deg]

I'll take you up on that offer. If I lose, I will bring the smokes to Hugh at our HERF next weekend :tu

Sounds good!!!

I got room for one more taker???


80% chance of rain tonight, but it's always 72 and sunny in the Trop!

[Starscream]

Why would you have me on the ignore list? Because I try to invoke sports discussion? Because I make fun of Stubbs? :confused:

But I suppose you won't answer, because you won't read it. :sh

Its OK Hugh, I still love you and Karen and coooooookiiiiiieeeeees!

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/4/3/6/6/3/3/1/orig-14366331.jpg

Hopefully for the Reds, Reyes is still being shopped. I can't believe how bad Janish and Stubbs are compared to Reyes. Not sure the two of them combined can have the productivity of Reyes. A true leadoff hitter and a very good SS. :hm

Quoted so Dan can see.;)

[Starscream]

Its OK Hugh, I still love you and Karen and coooooookiiiiiieeeeees! :tu

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/1/4/3/6/6/3/3/1/orig-14366331.jpg

Cookies from Hugh are the bestest!:dr

[Starscream]

At tonights Rays Reds game I think I will smoke an 858 maduro. The dump of a stadium we have has a cigar bar. I plan on getting there at 5:00 to have a pregame smoke.

I posted in Fantasy with no takers. Any of you Reds fans want to put up a five for the troops on the series?????

Hey, you might make it on tv. You'll be only one of 7 people in attendance.:r

[Coach Deg]

Hey, you might make it on tv. You'll be only one of 7 people in attendance.:r


We avg 18000. I have season tickets, so I am there for most of it. Don't really want to get into it, but I will say I really do love the Trop. I drive 1hr each way, I have to cut through the heart of Tampa and traffic is not the issue people complain about, our economy is horrible 18% unemployment, our governor is taking more money from middle class and public servants are being charged more for benefits and 3% of salary taken away.

All that said, the Rays should move. I will not argue. As a season ticket holder and loyal fan they should move. They deserve better. Give me one place where they can go? Then figure out where the other 8 teams with worse attendance can move to? Times are tough all over.


Go Rays!

[Starscream]

We avg 18000. I have season tickets, so I am there for most of it. Don't really want to get into it, but I will say I really do love the Trop. I drive 1hr each way, I have to cut through the heart of Tampa and traffic is not the issue people complain about, our economy is horrible 18% unemployment, our governor is taking more money from middle class and public servants are being charged more for benefits and 3% of salary taken away.

All that said, the Rays should move. I will not argue. As a season ticket holder and loyal fan they should move. They deserve better. Give me one place where they can go? Then figure out where the other 8 teams with worse attendance can move to? Times are tough all over.


Go Rays!
Charlotte, NC. We need a baseball team in NC. I'd get a chance to go to games then. We have an NFL and NBA team in Charlotte, and an NHL team in Raleigh. All we need now is an MLB team.

[Coach Deg]

Charlotte, NC. We need a baseball team in NC. I'd get a chance to go to games then. We have an NFL and NBA team in Charlotte, and an NHL team in Raleigh. All we need now is an MLB team.


I'd still be a Rays fan and I wouldn't blame them for leaving.

[Coach Deg]

I always liked Johnny.

[elderboy02]

It is about time for Johnny. He has been slumping.

[Coach Deg]

It is about time for Johnny. He has been slumping.

We are a good team, but we miss his fire!

[Starscream]

It is about time for Johnny. He has been slumping.

You haven't been watching for the past few weeks, then. Jonny's been warming up. So have Lewis and Heisey. Gomes has really seemed to revel in the DH spot on this trip.

[Starscream]

Good game tonight for once. Leake looked good, as did Lewis and Gomes.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :) :banger :tu

[chippewastud79]

You haven't been watching for the past few weeks, then. Jonny's been warming up. So have Lewis and Heisey. Gomes has really seemed to revel in the DH spot on this trip.

Dan doesn't watch games, he just posts "Reds Win!". Thats why he still thinks Stubbs is a good player. :tu

Votto has been the one slumping, probably why they have been struggling to win lately. Stubbs is on permanent slump, as always, but he continues to up his MLB leading strikeout total. :td

[Starscream]

Dan doesn't watch games, he just posts "Reds Win!". Thats why he still thinks Stubbs is a good player. :tu

Votto has been the one slumping, probably why they have been struggling to win lately. Stubbs is on permanent slump, as always, but he continues to up his MLB leading strikeout total. :td

Reposted so Dan can see.:r



Votto hasn't been great lately, but the left field platoon has been hot lately. As much as I've wanted to get rid of Gomes and Lewis, they've been pulling their weight. So has Heisey.

And Leake looked good tonight as well.

[Starscream]

Looks like we've got a pitchers' duel tonight.

[Starscream]

Tie game! Price cant' get the W now.

[chippewastud79]

Looks like we've got a pitchers' duel tonight.

Tie game on the error to allow Stubbs to get to third :tu

I never understand how a ball that hits the glove of the outfielder can be ruled a hit. Thats how Stubbs has both his 'triples' on the year and a 'homerun'. :sh

[chippewastud79]

Tie game! Price cant' get the W now.

As long as he finishes the inning, he can get runs in the bottom half to get the win. :tu

Edit: Moot point now. :hm

[Starscream]

Tie game on the error to allow Stubbs to get to third :tu

I never understand how a ball that hits the glove of the outfielder can be ruled a hit. Thats how Stubbs has both his 'triples' on the year and a 'homerun'. :sh

If it's a rocket I can understand. Like the hit that was taken away from Gomes tonight. It hit the glove, but there was NO chance of a play there. (They gave it back to him a few minutes ago). Stubbs was a different story.

[Starscream]

As long as he finishes the inning, he can get runs in the bottom half to get the win. :tu

Edit: Moot point now. :hm

Yeah, I did jump the gun there by a half inning, didn't I.

[chippewastud79]

Yeah, I did jump the gun there by a half inning, didn't I.

No worries, I was just having some sports related discussion. You are apparently the only one in the thread who can/will engage in sports conversation. :tu

Cueto now in line for the loss. :rolleyes:

[Starscream]

Sucks for Cueto. He deserves better. Heisey and Renteria fugged that one up. Do you think Janish would have had a chance at that ball?

[chippewastud79]

Sucks for Cueto. He deserves better. Heisey and Renteria fugged that one up. Do you think Janish would have had a chance at that ball?

Not likely, that ball was in "no mans land". Really the SS going back for that ball has the worst chance of getting it. You always want the player coming in to make the catch. :2

Cueto and Price now both on the ND wagon. ;)

Edit: Bruce hit that pretty far :jd

[Starscream]

Thank God for Bruce to put us back in the game.:tu

[chippewastud79]

Thank God for Bruce to put us back in the game.:tu

Sure did, just in time for Stubbs to get caught stealing :bh

[chippewastud79]

"Anything you can do, I can do better"

Signed,
Evan Longoria

Nice work OndruSUCK! :bh

[Starscream]

We looked decent tonight. Tough loss. Looks like we're gonna be in 4th place tonight. Bucs and Cards are both winning.

[chippewastud79]

We looked decent tonight. Tough loss. Looks like we're gonna be in 4th place tonight. Bucs and Cards are both winning.

Both starters looked good, every pitcher blinked, the Reds just blinked last. :rolleyes:

[elderboy02]

We'll get 'em next time :tu

[Starscream]

Can you read Adam's post, Dan, or do I need to quote them?:D


We'll get 'em next time. I sure hope so. We did look good tonight.

[elderboy02]

Can you read Adam's post, Dan, or do I need to quote them?:D

Nah, I don't need to read his posts just saying the opposite of whatever I say, or how bad Drew Stubbs is, or how if something is red, that it is really blue. :r

[Starscream]

:r

Seriously though, Adam's got some really valid thoughts on this team.

[elderboy02]

:r

Seriously though, Adam's got some really valid thoughts on this team.

Maybe he does :tu

[Starscream]

Aww, c'mon, Dan. He just ribs you about the smilies and Stubbs. We want your thoughts on the status of this team.:tu

[elderboy02]

Aww, c'mon, Dan. He just ribs you about the smilies and Stubbs. We want your thoughts on the status of this team.:tu

We are playoff material. Hopefully we can get past the first round of the playoffs.

[Starscream]

We are playoff material. Hopefully we can get past the first round of the playoffs.

We need changes if we're gonna make it. SF is shopping around for a catcher. Hernandez is a big offensive force this year, but I'd love to see him traded for a pitcher with a decent arm. Left field is finally coming around. And we need to upgrade at Short Stop. Renteria needs to go, and Cozart replace him. Then, we may be a playoff caliber team.

[elderboy02]

We need changes if we're gonna make it. SF is shopping around for a catcher. Hernandez is a big offensive force this year, but I'd love to see him traded for a pitcher with a decent arm. Left field is finally coming around. And we need to upgrade at Short Stop. Renteria needs to go, and Cozart replace him. Then, we may be a playoff caliber team.

I agree with this post 100%

[chippewastud79]

Aww, c'mon, Dan. He just ribs you about the smilies and Stubbs. We want your thoughts on the status of this team.:tu

He doesn't want my sports discussion in a Reds thread, blind faith is better than discussion. He gets angry because stats say Stubbs sucks and my opinion isn't that of the Reds homers. :rolleyes:

[elderboy02]

He doesn't want my sports discussion in a Reds thread, blind faith is better than discussion. He gets angry because stats say Stubbs sucks and my opinion isn't that of the Reds homers. :rolleyes:

:r

[chippewastud79]

:r

See, I don't bite. Can we still be friends? I can start posting 'Reds Win!' with you. :tu

[Coach Deg]

You guys got us! Good series. Hugh a box will go out tomorrow. Or I might ship from Cincy, I will be there Friday. Anyone going to Friday's game? I won't have time for a stick, but a hello at the game would work.

Incase you guys were wondering, this is tailgating at the Trop.

[Starscream]

See, I don't bite. Can we still be friends? I can start posting 'Reds Win!' with you. :tu

Well we did it today!

[Starscream]

You guys got us! Good series. Hugh a box will go out tomorrow. Or I might ship from Cincy, I will be there Friday. Anyone going to Friday's game? I won't have time for a stick, but a hello at the game would work.

Incase you guys were wondering, this is tailgating at the Trop.

I'm jealous!

It's about time we won a series. Haven't done that since LA.

[elderboy02]

See, I don't bite. Can we still be friends? I can start posting 'Reds Win!' with you. :tu

Sure :tu

You guys got us! Good series. Hugh a box will go out tomorrow. Or I might ship from Cincy, I will be there Friday. Anyone going to Friday's game? I won't have time for a stick, but a hello at the game would work.

Incase you guys were wondering, this is tailgating at the Trop.

Crap, I forgot there was a day game today. I won't be at the game Friday.

Well we did it today!

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger

[chippewastud79]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger

You can delete my smilies when you post so you can have the full allotment. :tu

[Starscream]

Dan, sports discussion:

How would you upgrade this team at this moment? No right or wrong answer, b/c you don't work in the front office. Same goes for all of us.



Adam, how would you upgrade this team?


Hugh, how would you upgrade this team?


Waffle, how would you upgrade this team?



We are obviously not gonna make the WS this year, but making the playoffs is a decent possibility at this point, despite being in 4th place right now. It's still before the All-Star break, so there's plenty of time. We're only 3 games back.


No wrong or right answer for anyone, but please be realistic. Don't come out and say let's get Pujols, Holiday, Lincecum, Wilson, Rivera, and the likes that we have absolutely NO chance of acquiring at this point. I know SF needs a catcher, but we're not gonna get Lincecum, Wilson, or any other big name from their team in return for Hernandez right now. He's awesome at offense this year, but he's old and starting to decline, especially at defense. Hanigan is obviously the better game caller and defender.

[Starscream]

Dan, sports discussion:

How would you upgrade this team at this moment? No right or wrong answer, b/c you don't work in the front office. Same goes for all of us.



Adam, how would you upgrade this team?


Hugh, how would you upgrade this team?


Waffle, how would you upgrade this team?



We are obviously not gonna make the WS this year, but making the playoffs is a decent possibility at this point, despite being in 4th place right now. It's still before the All-Star break, so there's plenty of time. We're only 3 games back.


No wrong or right answer for anyone, but please be realistic. Don't come out and say let's get Pujols, Holiday, Lincecum, Wilson, Rivera, and the likes that we have absolutely NO chance of acquiring at this point. I know SF needs a catcher, but we're not gonna get Lincecum, Wilson, or any other big name from their team in return for Hernandez right now. He's awesome at offense this year, but he's old and starting to decline, especially at defense. Hanigan is obviously the better game caller and defender.
We could get a decent pitcher or starting position if we trade Hernandez, Alonso, maybe Stubbs, and someone else in a deal, but I'm not counting on it.

The fact is, SF is shopping for a good catcher with Posey out for the season. Ramon is only under contract for the rest of this year. Posey will be back next year, so it's only fitting if we in fact do trade a catcher for someone of worth, that it will be Hernandez. Hanigan's under contract past this year, and besides, I'd hate to give up his defense and game calling skills.

[chippewastud79]

They need a starting pitcher or two. The talk was of Liriano, but I am not sure who they have on the market right now. If the Giants are in the discussion at trade time, you need to make an effort to get Cain or, at minimum, Vogelsong. Renteria and Hernandez work well in the trade with 2 or Sigle/Double-A prospects. It shouldn't take much to get a decent starting pitcher from the Giants in exchange for a few players with a servicable catcher.

I am interested to see if Willis can continue being a viable pitcher in Louisville, it would be nice to see him take another run at the big show. He was some kind of dominant for the Marlins and if he can return to form, he would be a very good 4 or 5 starter. :hm


The Reds need to make a serious run at Reyes if he is available. Stubbs has to be included in that package and you can afford to run Janish with him as well. At this point, Janish has done little to convince me that he is more than a servicable day off for infielders. The argument against is obviously being able to afford him and Phillips in the years to come. He may not stay regardless, but they may both like the idea of having the best middle infield in baseball and batting 1-2 in the order in front of Votto. You have to believe that if this team isn't going to make the playoffs consistently, not talking 3 times in 7 years, but every year for a few years: Votto is gone and Phillips is gone. They are both the top 5 in their position in MLB and don't want to squander good baseball on a bad team. Might they stay for less money, yes, but not 20 million less. :tu

[Acesfull]

Not sure why everyone is so high on Reyes when they have a great SS hitting like crazy in Louisville. I would be happy if they got rid of Stubbs though. He is HORRENDOUS

[hotreds]

There really isn't too much we can do. I'm not down on Stubbs like the rest of you. A nice speed/power combo. So, he strikes out a lot. A .250 hitter with 20/20 or 30/30 potential is ok in my book. He could be a good leadoff hitter if he did improve his strike zone awareness. He IS young, so I don't give up on him yet by any stretch. Reyes would indeed be great, but I doubt we'll get him at this point. I think that Henley is being shopped, but if he would change his attitude with a change of scenery is anybody's guess.

If our pitching stays strong, if our hitting remains decent, we could go far indeed. Volquez looked very good today. Cueto is hot, Arroyo can be very good, and the sticky fingers guy is also pitching well.

So- big IF- we play close to our ability we should/could go quite far even w/o changing much if anything.

[chippewastud79]

Not sure why everyone is so high on Reyes when they have a great SS hitting like crazy in Louisville. I would be happy if they got rid of Stubbs though. He is HORRENDOUS

Reyes leads the NL in average, hits, triples and runs, 2nd in stolen bases, 5th in OBP, 6th in OPS, 4th in doubles, 7th in slugging. He ranks in the top ten in nearly every category besides HR. The defending NL MVP isn't even in the top ten in 5 categories, let alone 9. :tu


He is a lead off hitter and has struck out only 26 times in 76 games, compare that to the Reds lead off hitter who has 111 strikeouts. It would be nice to upgrade twice with one player, leadoff and SS would get gigantic boosts. Plus the chance to unload an underachieving, overhyped, bad defending CF for an All-Star would be beneficial to Dusty. For some reason, albeit unjustified, Stubbs has to play every day. :hm

[Starscream]

There really isn't too much we can do. I'm not down on Stubbs like the rest of you. A nice speed/power combo. So, he strikes out a lot. A .250 hitter with 20/20 or 30/30 potential is ok in my book. He could be a good leadoff hitter if he did improve his strike zone awareness. He IS young, so I don't give up on him yet by any stretch. Reyes would indeed be great, but I doubt we'll get him at this point. I think that Henley is being shopped, but if he would change his attitude with a change of scenery is anybody's guess.

If our pitching stays strong, if our hitting remains decent, we could go far indeed. Volquez looked very good today. Cueto is hot, Arroyo can be very good, and the sticky fingers guy is also pitching well.

So- big IF- we play close to our ability we should/could go quite far even w/o changing much if anything.
I like your way of thinking, Hugh. But who is Henley?
Reyes leads the NL in average, hits, triples and runs, 2nd in stolen bases, 5th in OBP, 6th in OPS, 4th in doubles, 7th in slugging. He ranks in the top ten in nearly every category besides HR. The defending NL MVP isn't even in the top ten in 5 categories, let alone 9. :tu

He is a lead off hitter and has struck out only 26 times in 76 games, compare that to the Reds lead off hitter who has 111 strikeouts. It would be nice to upgrade twice with one player, leadoff and SS would get gigantic boosts. Plus the chance to unload an underachieving, overhyped, bad defending CF for an All-Star would be beneficial to Dusty. For some reason, albeit unjustified, Stubbs has to play every day. :hm
I'd love to have Reyes, Adam, but at this point, I don't think it's a possibility anymore.

[Starscream]

BTW, I love the discussion in here today!:tu

[Starscream]

There really isn't too much we can do. I'm not down on Stubbs like the rest of you. A nice speed/power combo. So, he strikes out a lot. A .250 hitter with 20/20 or 30/30 potential is ok in my book. He could be a good leadoff hitter if he did improve his strike zone awareness. He IS young, so I don't give up on him yet by any stretch. Reyes would indeed be great, but I doubt we'll get him at this point. I think that Henley is being shopped, but if he would change his attitude with a change of scenery is anybody's guess.

If our pitching stays strong, if our hitting remains decent, we could go far indeed. Volquez looked very good today. Cueto is hot, Arroyo can be very good, and the sticky fingers guy is also pitching well.

So- big IF- we play close to our ability we should/could go quite far even w/o changing much if anything.
If anyone has noticed, Volquez looks good when Hanigan is behind the plate. When Hernandez is behind the plate, Volquez sucks. I still say Volquez sucks, but it seems that Hanigan is the one who keeps our guys decent. He's got the lower ERA in games vs. Hernandez.

[hotreds]

I like your way of thinking, Hugh. But who is Henley?

Ramirez

[Starscream]

Ramirez

hanley Ramirez? He put up Stubbs numbers last year, yet he had a much better average, but he's virtually worthless this year. That's why GOOD OL' DAVEY benched him. You gotta love DAVEY. I was always a Marge fan, but that was the worst decision she ever made, getting rid of Davey. He could have taken the team to at least one more WS in the 90s.

[elderboy02]

I would bring up Cozart and get rid of Janish. I thought Janish would be good, but he turned out to only be good for his defense. I would like to see Heisey play more.

[chippewastud79]

Reds fail :td

[hotreds]

hanley Ramirez? He put up Stubbs numbers last year, yet he had a much better average, but he's virtually worthless this year. That's why GOOD OL' DAVEY benched him. You gotta love DAVEY. I was always a Marge fan, but that was the worst decision she ever made, getting rid of Davey. He could have taken the team to at least one more WS in the 90s.

They say he is fed up with Fla. He has a world of talent, but the question is if he can harness it again or if all the money he has made has made him lazy. The multi million dollar question. He is more likely to be available than Reyes. But, do we want him? At any price?

[688sonarmen]

Saw the River Bats tonight while I'm home in Louisville on leave. Adam Wood pitched a good game, is he coming off the D.L? Bats won 2-4 against the Braves farm team... So, Bats Win Bats WIN:noon:tu:noon:tu:D

[elderboy02]

That was ugly tonight :hn

[Acesfull]

That was ugly tonight :hn

word.

[chippewastud79]

Votto, Phillips and Bruce make the All-Star team. Not surprisingly, none are starters. Votto got fortunate that Pujols got hurt, fans stopped voting for him once he got hurt. :tu

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger:banger:banger:tu:tu

[chippewastud79]

Stubbs for MVP :bh :td :sh :( :fl

[hotreds]

After a game, I can always tell who won by the last post- if it's Dan, we won, if it's Adam, we lost.

[chippewastud79]

After a game, I can always tell who won by the last post- if it's Dan, we won, if it's Adam, we lost.

I was just commenting on how amazing Stubbs was last night. 0-4 with 4 strikeouts and 6 runners left on base, 5 in scoring position. :td

The team looked like doo doo in general. Playing good teams is seriously starting to catch up with them now. They weren't competitive against winning teams last year and this year seems to be a continuation of that. :sh

[688sonarmen]

Good game last night guys. I quit watching after the 5th. I bet you could hear a cricket chirp just after the 1st pitch:r

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu

I thought it was funny when Aroldis Chapman saved the game and he forgot and started walking to the dugout :r

[chippewastud79]

I thought it was funny when Aroldis Chapman saved the game and he forgot and started walking to the dugout :r

I thought that it was funny the Reds blew an 8 run lead in 3 innings. Man this team looks bad sometimes. :td

[Starscream]

After a game, I can always tell who won by the last post- if it's Dan, we won, if it's Adam, we lost.

:r

[Starscream]

I thought that it was funny the Reds blew an 8 run lead in 3 innings. Man this team looks bad sometimes. :td

It's amazing that we're still in contention at this point. Sometimes it's good to be in the NL Central.

[elderboy02]

Glad to see Cozart come up and Janish sent down :tu

[chippewastud79]

It's amazing that we're still in contention at this point. Sometimes it's good to be in the NL Central.

That was the comment on ESPN today. They were talking about if the Pirates were for real, if the league continues to be this terrible, anyone is in contention. :rolleyes:

[chippewastud79]

Nice base running by Stubbs :bh

[Starscream]

Good to see Cozart up. I just wished it had been Renteria gone rather than Janish being optioned. Good to see Volquez knocked down again.

[elderboy02]

Good to see Cozart up. I just wished it had been Renteria gone rather than Janish being optioned. Good to see Volquez knocked down again.

I think they said Volquez will be up shortly. I think they were saying that they just dropped him so they could bring Carlos Fisher up because of the extra innings game.

[chippewastud79]

Still waiting on Dontrelle coming back up. He has turned it on of late and I am interested to see what he can do in the Big Show again. :tu

[chippewastud79]

Still waiting on Dontrelle coming back up. He has turned it on of late and I am interested to see what he can do in the Big Show again. :tu

Willis coming up to start Sunday, we'll see how that goes. :hm

[Starscream]

I'm a bit nervous about him, but at this point, I don't think he can be any worse than Volquez.


Volquez needs to be gone for good this time. Trade him to some team who needs pitching desperately enough to take him.

[Starscream]

We scored first tonight. I've got a good feeling, despite the top of the order being Stubbs and Renteria.

[Starscream]

That was ugly. I'm embarrassed to be a Reds fan right now.

[elderboy02]

Cordero sure did blow it.

[chippewastud79]

Man, that was a bad finish. :td

[Starscream]

Cordero sure did blow it.

I'm not putting blame on him. Yes, he failed us twice in a row, but he should never have been put into that spot in either game. How does a team just blow leads like that?

Good to see Adam's boy Stubbs actually hit for a change.:r

[chippewastud79]

I'm not putting blame on him. Yes, he failed us twice in a row, but he should never have been put into that spot in either game. How does a team just blow leads like that?

Good to see Adam's boy Stubbs actually hit for a change.:r

And they still lost. His amazing angle on the Weeks fly ball led to a nice inside-the-park job. I think it is safe to say that Stubbs has no effect on how this team does, he plays well and they lose, he sits or strikes out 3 times in a game and they win. Based on a crazy stat on fangraph, Drew Stubbs in the lineup gives them a -7.79% chance on winning a game, and I tend agree based on how he plays. :hm

[Starscream]

And they still lost. His amazing angle on the Weeks fly ball led to a nice inside-the-park job. I think it is safe to say that Stubbs has no effect on how this team does, he plays well and they lose, he sits or strikes out 3 times in a game and they win. Based on a crazy stat on fangraph, Drew Stubbs in the lineup gives them a -7.79% chance on winning a game, and I tend agree based on how he plays. :hm

:r:r

That's so sad if that's accurate.

[chippewastud79]

:r:r

That's so sad if that's accurate.

After watching half the season I would agree. His WAR (Wins Above Replacement) is only 2.1 games for an entire season. Its probably a lengthy algorithm of stats that mean nothing to the average fan. There is also a stat claiming that he has below average range in the outfield and saves only 2 runs a season with his defense. He has actually missed over 10 balls that he should have caught based on his percieved range and has yet to save a homerun despite having 9 chances. :sh

[Starscream]

Where's Dan? Bring on the smilies and wrap 'em in Red!:banger

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :)

[elderboy02]

Cordero fuggin blows donkey d**ks :td

[chippewastud79]

Cordero fuggin blows donkey d**ks :td

The Reds are getting exactly the opposite of how they won so many games last season and even started this season. They are not playing good baseball right now. :hm

Heading into the break they have some blaring issues:

Still have no leadoff hitter, Stubbs is absolute trash of late, he has scored 3 runs in the last 10 games and two were today. 7 for 39 and 0 RBI's with 11 K's. :td

Their rotation has no direction right now, luckily Willis looked really good today, they need to figure out who their 5 are and most importantly the top 3, right now it looks like they have merely 2 pitchers. :sh

The bullpen, particularly the back end of it, looks terrible. Blew an 8 run lead the other night in 3 innings and dropped two in the ninth in the last series. :pu

[Starscream]

Cordero fuggin blows donkey d**ks
:r He's definitely in a funk all of a sudden. Dusty should never have put him in Sunday's game after seeing him fail for the previous few games. Give the guy some rest and maybe he'll bounce back.
The Reds are getting exactly the opposite of how they won so many games last season and even started this season. They are not playing good baseball right now.

Heading into the break they have some blaring issues:

Still have no leadoff hitter, Stubbs is absolute trash of late, he has scored 3 runs in the last 10 games and two were today. 7 for 39 and 0 RBI's with 11 K's.

Their rotation has no direction right now, luckily Willis looked really good today, they need to figure out who their 5 are and most importantly the top 3, right now it looks like they have merely 2 pitchers.

The bullpen, particularly the back end of it, looks terrible. Blew an 8 run lead the other night in 3 innings and dropped two in the ninth in the last series. :pu

People are calling for us to get an upgrade in left field, but Heisey's numbers look better than Stubbs' do with significantly less at bats. Even numbers in avg., HR, and RBI. The only downside is the lack of stolen bases, but it's kinda hard to steal bases if you can't get on base to begin with. Imagine what Stubbs' number of stolen bases would be if the kid could hit. He could put up Ricky Henderson type numbers. Sadly, he can't hit, though. Move Heisey to Center, and get a trade done that gives us a power bat in LF.

Also, Votto isn't getting it done the way he's supposed to. He's hitting for average, not hitting like a true 3-hole hitter should. Our 3-hole hitter should not be in love with singles. Where's this guy's power this year?

[Starscream]

Seems like the Reds are taking a bit of interest in Jimenez. Thoughts? I'm a little shaky on this one. Bad ERA at home, which is expected at Coors, but decent ERA on the road.

[chippewastud79]

Seems like the Reds are taking a bit of interest in Jimenez. Thoughts? I'm a little shaky on this one. Bad ERA at home, which is expected at Coors, but decent ERA on the road.

Ubaldo was the man last year, even at home. I can't imagine he could pitch worse than most of their rotation :hm

[hotreds]

Seems like the Reds are taking a bit of interest in Jimenez. Thoughts? I'm a little shaky on this one. Bad ERA at home, which is expected at Coors, but decent ERA on the road.

Me gusta depending on what we would hafta give up.

[Starscream]

Me gusta depending on what we would hafta give up.

That's all what it comes down to. If we could get him for Alonso, Volquez, and another prospect (not Meseraco), I wouldn't mind.

[hotreds]

That's all what it comes down to. If we could get him for Alonso, Volquez, and another prospect (not Meseraco), I wouldn't mind.

I doubt ANYBODY wants Volquez!

[Starscream]

I doubt ANYBODY wants Volquez!

Some team is desperate enough for pitching to take him.:)

[chippewastud79]

All of the Reds All-Stars have successfully had at least one Stubbs in game tonight :td

[Starscream]

:r

[chippewastud79]

So the Brewers added K-Rod, for a set up man no less. When will the Reds actually make a move to improve this team? :hm

[waffle]

Never. I believe they've resigned themselves to "sticking it out" with the "new talent" rather than shaking it up and going after big names. Clearly the Mets are in firesale mode already, and they have some incredible bats on the team... the Reds need to stop sitting on their hands and get someone that can actually help them!

[chippewastud79]

Arnoldis Chapman, nice line tonight: 3 batters faced, 1 strike thrown, 2 BB, 1 HR, 2 ER and 0 outs. :td

[Starscream]

14 pitches, only 4 strikes

Starting to think that he is a waste of $30 million.

[Starscream]

BP with the 2run walkoff!

[hotreds]

where's Adam?

[chippewastud79]

Reds Win! Reds Win! :tu :banger :D :) :pn

[chippewastud79]

One game below .500 :banger

[chippewastud79]

4th place in the weakest division in baseball :tu

[Starscream]

Anybody think Phillips is gonna get plunked tomorrow at some point? We all know how Carpenter is a big baby.

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :tu:tu:tu:noon:banger

[Starscream]

Won't happen today. This lineup is an absolute joke.:td
Stubbs
Renteria
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Rolen
Heisey
Hanigan
Arroyo



Why would anyone in their right mind put Renteria in tonight after Cozart has performed so well. And Stubbs at leadoff again. Is Dusty trying to forfeit this game?

[chippewastud79]

Won't happen today. This lineup is an absolute joke.:td
Stubbs
Renteria
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Rolen
Heisey
Hanigan
Arroyo



Why would anyone in their right mind put Renteria in tonight after Cozart has performed so well. And Stubbs at leadoff again. Is Dusty trying to forfeit this game?

Stubbs starts, even gets on base and the Reds lose. Yesterday Stubbs does nothing and they win. I think the -7.79% chance of winning looks more and more acurate every day. :td

[Starscream]

Renteria actually got the job done most of the game. This team just sucks completely with RISP. How many times have we seen the bases loaded with no outs and no one scores? Absolute joke, and we deserve to lose b/c of this complete and utter bullshyt.

[Starscream]

I'm about fed up with Dusty too. I guess I'm late to this party, but he's messed up a bit too much lately.

[chippewastud79]

Renteria actually got the job done most of the game. This team just sucks completely with RISP. How many times have we seen the bases loaded with no outs and no one scores? Absolute joke, and we deserve to lose b/c of this complete and utter bullshyt.

Same reason they deserved to lose the game yesterday but pulled off some miracle. They haven't won consecutive games in 22 games. Luckily for them no one in this division can pull away. If the Brewers could play on the road like they can at home they would be 10 games up. Mediocrity is keeping the Reds alive, but the way they play it likely won't matter down the stretch. :hm

[Starscream]

Mediocrity is keeping the whole NL Central alive.


Not sure whether to post a :r or a :sad

[chippewastud79]

Mediocrity is keeping the whole NL Central alive.


Not sure whether to post a :r or a :sad

4 teams squallering in mediocrity and the two worst teams in the MLB make for a sweep for whomever wins this division by the Wild Card Team (with a better record). :lv

[Starscream]

Adam, what are your thoughts of Dusty at this point? I was indifferent to him the first two years, then I liked him the second half of last year. This year, I've started to dislike his decisions more and more. I'm not saying Fire Dusty as others are, but something needs to be done to reign this guy in at some point.

[chippewastud79]

Adam, what are your thoughts of Dusty at this point? I was indifferent to him the first two years, then I liked him the second half of last year. This year, I've started to dislike his decisions more and more. I'm not saying Fire Dusty as others are, but something needs to be done to reign this guy in at some point.

It depends on who is pulling the strings in the organization. There is definitely something that compels Dusty to put Stubbs in the leadoff spot the day after Heisey puts two in the seats and plays better defense than Stubbs ever does. I don't know that Dusty even runs the show anymore. :hm

Homer Bailey comes up all the time and stinks up the joint. No matter how many walks he issues, The Cuban Loss of Control pitches everytime they have a lead, even with an ERA over 5.00. Bruce, Stubbs, Gomes (at the beginning of the season) and Renteria all seem to have to get their play and AB's no matter how bad they are playing (or how many strikeouts they get). :sh

[elderboy02]

Dusty is a tard for not starting Cozart :td

[chippewastud79]

Dusty is a tard for starting Stubbs :td

:tu

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger

[Starscream]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger

Taking it to the Redturds again! Lot of luck went in to this series. We won b/c of errors today. Loved the Theriot meltdown. That was hilarious! I bet Larussa's gonna have a nice long chat with him after the game.

[elderboy02]

...We won b/c of errors today....

True, but that is ok. There are plenty of games that we have lost because of our stupidity. It all balances out in the end.

[chippewastud79]

True, but that is ok. There are plenty of games that we have lost because of our stupidity. It all balances out in the end.

Not really, the Reds have been fortunate to win extra games this season already. Its a carry over from last season, they shouldn't even be in a lot of games they pulled out of their ass. Dusty or someone must be praying to God now-a-days because winning games when they look like trash is a good sign but doesn't bode well down the stretch/possible playoffs. :rolleyes:

Stubbs started and they won. Firmly in 4th place, no danger of falling into 5th anytime soon :tu :gary :D :noon

[Starscream]

It depends on who is pulling the strings in the organization. There is definitely something that compels Dusty to put Stubbs in the leadoff spot the day after Heisey puts two in the seats and plays better defense than Stubbs ever does. I don't know that Dusty even runs the show anymore. :hm

This is sarcasm, right? With the exception of putting Gomes in the lineup for his bobblehead day and being forced to play Cozart over Renteria, we still see the same old Dusty lineups day in and day out, the same old lefty vs righty battles that don't work, poor choices in the pen, and just blatant mismanagement late in games.

I really want to like they guy, b/c he's a great personality in the clubhouse, but these mistakes have just been boneheaded. Sticking with guys way too long b/c he's a players' manager is another thing that irks me. Mismanagement, plus the baserunning errors by the new guys and Stubbs, and the problem this team has hitting with .risp is what is killing us right now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not placing total blame on Dusty. He does a lot of things right, but his lineups suck and his hunches never play out. I'm getting fed up.

[Starscream]

And another thing - Rolen needs to go. His shoulder is killing us right now. Let Cairo get some games in at third.

You'd think I'd be more positive right now after the Reds won another series against the Cards, but we just looked bad in all three games.

[chippewastud79]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not placing total blame on Dusty. He does a lot of things right, but his lineups suck and his hunches never play out. I'm getting fed up.

I am just implying that someone above Dusty may be forcing him to play certain players because of money owed/investment/draft pick/complete trashiness. Does he really want to play Renteria? Stubbs? Bailey? I'm not sure anyone does. :sh

[Starscream]

I am just implying that someone above Dusty may be forcing him to play certain players because of money owed/investment/draft pick/complete trashiness. Does he really want to play Renteria? Stubbs? Bailey? I'm not sure anyone does. :sh

I think the exact opposite. I think they're forcing him to play Cozart and Heisey and he wants to insert all of these jokes instead b/c he's a players' manager and wants to see them succeed. He's too kindhearted to tell them that they suck, so he gives them a chance to go out and try to keep their careers alive.

Not trying to start an argument here. Just some good old baseball discussion.:)

Another loss for the Redlegs. Last 2 game win streak was June 15. I'm starting to think it's officially over for us.

[chippewastud79]

12 days to the deadline, are the Reds going to be movers? If they stay with the team they have they are likely going to finish no better than third in this division (assuming the Pirates don't get better). I think the only team they can match up decent with is the Pirates, but all the rest of those series are in Pittsburgh. The Cards and Brewers are clearly better teams right now, even if they have the winning record against the Cards. :sh

The best offense in baseball (Or atleast the Reds broadcast team would lead you to believe)??? Why does Sean Casey seem to be the only announcer that realizes this team is not as great as the rest of the team make them out to be? :hm

[Starscream]

The best offensive team in baseball is a misleading stat, but the announcers (other than Marty) see it as we are on top. We can't score for three games, then on the fourth game we score 7-10 runs. Those few games inflate that stat and make us look a lot better than what they are.
Right now the biggest thing I'm worried about is hitting with risp. I wonder how many baserunners we've left on base this year. I'm willing to bet we lead in that category as well.:r

[chippewastud79]

I think the exact opposite. I think they're forcing him to play Cozart and Heisey and he wants to insert all of these jokes instead b/c he's a players' manager and wants to see them succeed. He's too kindhearted to tell them that they suck, so he gives them a chance to go out and try to keep their careers alive.

Not trying to start an argument here. Just some good old baseball discussion.:)

Another loss for the Redlegs. Last 2 game win streak was June 15. I'm starting to think it's officially over for us.

Are you implying that Dusty is the Mike Brown of the Reds, allowing players to try to resurrect their careers in Cincinnati? :r

The problem is it seems like they (Dusty or someone higher up) are forcing young players down our throats that aren't good because they have no other options (Stubbs, Bruce when he is slumping, Bailey, Chapman, Volquez) and they are 'homegrown' because they don't want to be wrong. Where they have high priced older players, they are forced to play them because they 'owe' them (Rolen, Gomes, Renteria, Arroyo). :td

They need to be making moves at the deadline. I like Cozart, but their outfield talent is so sub par that they could change 2 of 3 of them for a huge upgrade. We'll see if they do anything. :hm

[Starscream]

As long as they don't get rid of Bruce, Phillips, and Cueto, I don't care who we trade right now. Votto's gonna be gone after 2013 (I'm pretty sure), Stubbs sucks, Heisey and Cozart are too new to judge yet (so I could care less), Rolen's through, Gomes sucks, Lewis is nothing but a backup/bench player, Hernandez is gonna be gone this year too. Oh yeah, and FUGG Chapman and his $30 million. The jury's still out, but he looks like a bust right now.


Bruce is still working on things, but he's slowly improving, Phillips is the heart of this team, and Cueto is our ace.

[Starscream]

Are you implying that Dusty is the Mike Brown of the Reds, allowing players to try to resurrect their careers in Cincinnati? :r


:r:r
Pretty much.:D

[chippewastud79]

Stubbs sucks :banger :bh :td :(

0-4 2K's, 5 LOB and they lost 1-0. Would be nice to get some production out of the leadoff spot in a 1 run game :sh

[Tuxguy]

Go BUcs!

[chippewastud79]

The Reds jugernaut showed up today :tu

Reds Win! Reds Win! :banger :noon

4th place :tu

[elderboy02]

I forgot they played today.

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :) :noon :tu

[chippewastud79]

I forgot they played today.



Big fan, eh? :hm

[elderboy02]

Big fan, eh? :hm

Some people have jobs ;)

Last night I heard that they played today, I just forgot to turn on the radio.

[chippewastud79]

Some people have jobs ;)

I work 24-7-365 and take care of the little guy. ;)

[elderboy02]

I work 24-7-365 and take care of the little guy. ;)

Ahhhh.... a manny :tu

[Starscream]

I work 24-7-365 and take care of the little guy. ;)

:hm TMI!:r



Good news! I hear Atlanta has an interest in Gomes. I'd trade him for a bucket of balls and a new net for an L-frame.:)

[elderboy02]

:hm TMI!:r



Good news! I hear Atlanta has an interest in Gomes. I'd trade him for a bucket of balls and a new net for an L-frame.:)

Yep. He was good last year, but this year he sucks.

[chippewastud79]

:hm TMI!:r





:confused:

[chippewastud79]

Good news! I hear Atlanta has an interest in Gomes. I'd trade him for a bucket of balls and a new net for an L-frame.:)

Is anyone interested in Stubbs? I think we could get a few bats and $783 for him. And the bats might strikeout less than him. :tu

And he sat yesterday and they won. Coincidence? :hm

[smitdavi]

Man I'm not sure why some of you don't like Cozart. Renteria blows nuts and so did Janish. You gotta make a move at some point to either bring up the young talent or just let the veteran flounder. He is batting over .300. Hell Janish could barely see the mendoza line when he was up.

[chippewastud79]

Man I'm not sure why some of you don't like Cozart. Renteria blows nuts and so did Janish. You gotta make a move at some point to either bring up the young talent or just let the veteran flounder. He is batting over .300. Hell Janish could barely see the mendoza line when he was up.

Who doesn't like Cozart? I think he is great (particularly compared to what the other options are). Frankly, he should have been up a long time ago, but they let Janish lose the job for about 2 months too long. :rolleyes:

[Starscream]

I like Cozart too.
:confused:

[smitdavi]

I must have been suffering from heatstroke when I made that post. It just looked like everyone was baggin on Cozart.

[smitdavi]

Who doesn't like Cozart? I think he is great (particularly compared to what the other options are). Frankly, he should have been up a long time ago, but they let Janish lose the job for about 2 months too long. :rolleyes:

Wasn't Janish at one point 0/30?

[elderboy02]

I like Cozart too.

[chippewastud79]

Wasn't Janish at one point 0/30?

I think at one point Janish, Gomes, Stubbs and Bruce were all 0 for 30. :hm

[hotreds]

Reds don't lose tonight!

[chippewastud79]

Reds don't lose tonight!

Probably because Stubbs didn't play. :r

[Starscream]

Reds don't lose tonight!

:banger:noon:banger:noon:r

[chippewastud79]

Stubbs starts, Reds lose :hm

[elderboy02]

Stubbs starts, Reds lose :hm

Arroyo didn't look good. Stubbs had a HR, but struck out 3x :hm

[chippewastud79]

Arroyo didn't look good. Stubbs had a HR, but struck out 3x :hm

4 runs in 7 innings isn't bad given their current rotation. Hell, they scored 4 on Jurjens and still the bullpen blew it. Stubbs still sucks, he swings for the fences (when he isn't watching strikes go by) and sometimes he connects (see: Adam Dunn).:td

[elderboy02]

4 runs in 7 innings isn't bad given their current rotation. Hell, they scored 4 on Jurjens and still the bullpen blew it. Stubbs still sucks, he swings for the fences (when he isn't watching strikes go by) and sometimes he connects (see: Adam Dunn).:td

Very true

[chippewastud79]

Reds Win! 4th Place! :banger :tu :noon :banger :D

[Starscream]

I'm surprised at Stubbs' bunting ability today. He looked like an official MLB player at the plate today. If we could get him to bunt more often (successfully) and put him in the two hole, then we might have a decent team.

EDIT: we also looked great at first and third situations today.

[elderboy02]

Stubbs also had a great throw to the plate. He sure has a strong arm.

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :) :banger :)

[chippewastud79]

I'm surprised at Stubbs' bunting ability today. He looked like an official MLB player at the plate today. If we could get him to bunt more often (successfully) and put him in the two hole, then we might have a decent team.

EDIT: we also looked great at first and third situations today.

1 for 3 and 2 runs, a career day. :rolleyes:

[chippewastud79]

Stubbs also had a great throw to the plate. He sure has a strong arm.

Reds win! Reds win! :)

A great throw to the plate? To do what? No outfield assists from Stubbs? Johnny Damon can throw the ball to home plate too. :confused:

[elderboy02]

A great throw to the plate? To do what? No outfield assists from Stubbs? Johnny Damon can throw the ball to home plate too. :confused:

No, but it shows that clubs respect Stubbs cannon. He made a perfect throw to the catcher.

[chippewastud79]

No, but it shows that clubs respect Stubbs cannon. He made a perfect throw to the catcher.

Now thats funny right there, you said cannon and Stubbs in the same sentence. I suppose you also believe that Chapman has good control. :r

[Starscream]

1 for 3 and 2 runs, a career day. :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong here. I'm not big on Stubbs, but he was clutch when we needed him today, and he performed some decent bunts, which he has been lacking the past two seasons. Not saying he's MVP by anymeans, but he did get the job done today. So did Renteria (Diarrhea). It was a good game by Renteria too as a clutch hitter, and I absolutely loathe Renteria as a Red.

[chippewastud79]

Don't get me wrong here. I'm not big on Stubbs, but he was clutch when we needed him today, and he performed some decent bunts, which he has been lacking the past two seasons. Not saying he's MVP by anymeans, but he did get the job done today. So did Renteria (Diarrhea). It was a good game by Renteria too as a clutch hitter, and I absolutely loathe Renteria as a Red.

Clutch when they needed him? They won by 9 runs. :confused: How about he is 'clutch' in 1 run games or when they are trailing by a run instead of striking out 3 times a game? :hm

[Starscream]

I guess clutch was the wrong word. But Bruce's double, combined with Stubbs' bunt to move him over to third, and then Renteria bringing them both around turned the tide for us. We were down by one at that point.


Ready for Sunday Night Baseball.

[elderboy02]

Nice HR by @DatDudeBP

[Starscream]

Nice HR by @DatDudeBP

That's my boy!:banger

[elderboy02]

Walk off HR by my boy Stubbs!

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :tu :banger :tu :tu

[Starscream]

The streak is over! 2 game streak!:tu Maybe we'll win another one tomorrow.

[chippewastud79]

Walk off HR by my boy Stubbs!



You don't claim him when he is 0'fer 5 with 4 K's :r;):sh:confused:

[chippewastud79]

Going for 3 in a row tonight! Win streak! World Series here we come! :tu

[Starscream]

:bh
So close in the bottom of the ninth...

[chippewastud79]

Stubbs for MVP! 1 - 5 with 3K's and 4 LOB! :tu

[Starscream]

Janish sure was fighting to get his job back tonight. 3-4. Is that a record for him?:D

[kelmac07]

How 'bout them Mets? :D

[Starscream]

How 'bout them Mets? :D

:tg




:r

[smitdavi]

Huh....trade Gomes and call up Alonso. Looks like we are gonna stick him in the OF for now.

[elderboy02]

I'm glad to see Gomes go. I am anxious to see what Yonder can do.

[elderboy02]

Cairo sucks. How many errors can he get in a game :td

[chippewastud79]

Cairo sucks. How many errors can he get in a game :td

As many as Votto and Phillips and Bruce: One. ;)

How many times can Stubbs strikeout in one game? Half as many times as runners he leaves on. :td

[Starscream]

Huh....trade Gomes and call up Alonso. Looks like we are gonna stick him in the OF for now.

Until we trade him;)
I think Alonso's being showcased right before the deadline with this call up.

Either way, it's good to see Gomes gone.:tu


I also chalk up tonight's loss to emotional problems due to the Gomes trade. He was liked by most of the clubhouse and they got little notice to say goodbye. He was actually in written in on today's lineup before the trade announcement.

[Starscream]

As many as Votto and Phillips and Bruce: One. ;)

How many times can Stubbs strikeout in one game? Half as many times as runners he leaves on. :td

Cueto leaves and the Mets have 6 on the board? Yet he has no earned runs.:r Heck of a defensive job by all tonight.

Seriously, I blame this one on the emotional baggage that came with the short notice of the Gomes trade.

[chippewastud79]

Cueto leaves and the Mets have 6 on the board? Yet he has no earned runs.:r Heck of a defensive job by all tonight.

Seriously, I blame this one on the emotional baggage that came with the short notice of the Gomes trade.

They could have had 5 errors tonight. Blaming it on Gomes departure is a bit of a cop out, frankly the Mets are just playing better baseball. The Reds are playing below the level of their competition once again and are going to be lucky to salvage one out of four. :rolleyes:

8-13 in their last 21 and they are still only 4.5 games back. Its a good thing this division sucks and they are still in it, they would be 15.5 out in the East and 10 out in the West. :td

[elderboy02]

...frankly the Mets are just playing better baseball...:rolleyes:

I disagree. The Mets had a ton of bloop singles and just lucky hits. They were also helped out by a lot of errors. I mean, Cueto only had 1 earned run.

[chippewastud79]

I disagree. The Mets had a ton of bloop singles and just lucky hits. They were also helped out by a lot of errors. I mean, Cueto only had 1 earned run.

They still had 12 hits and had they not left 10 on base that game could have been a blow out. Not sure which game you saw, but despite the errors helping them the Mets looked like the better team. :sh

[Starscream]

I disagree. The Mets had a ton of bloop singles and just lucky hits. They were also helped out by a lot of errors. I mean, Cueto only had 1 earned run.

Unless they changed it after the game, Cueto had no earned runs. We gave up a ton of runs on errors.

Yes, Adam, we are an error prone team this year, but the high number tonight I will chalk up to emotional baggage. Mets didn't outplay us offensively, it was our errors that did us in tonight. It wasn't the usual bases loaded and leave 'em all stranded routine that this team likes to play.

[chippewastud79]

Unless they changed it after the game, Cueto had no earned runs. We gave up a ton of runs on errors.

Yes, Adam, we are an error prone team this year, but the high number tonight I will chalk up to emotional baggage. Mets didn't outplay us offensively, it was our errors that did us in tonight. It wasn't the usual bases loaded and leave 'em all stranded routine that this team likes to play.

The Mets had the same number of hits and more base runners. The Reds couldn't string anything together and had only two strong hits themselves, whether helped by errors or not. :confused:

[Starscream]

The Mets had the same number of hits and more base runners. The Reds couldn't string anything together and had only two strong hits themselves, whether helped by errors or not. :confused:

Because of our poor fielding percentage. If we played error free baseball, we would have outscored them in my opinion.

[chippewastud79]

Because of our poor fielding percentage. If we played error free baseball, we would have outscored them in my opinion.

The Mets are going to put the ball in play. Heck they have a top five average, you have to get outs. The best player in the NL only has one hit and they are still 2-0 in the series. ;)

[Starscream]

The Mets are going to put the ball in play. Heck they have a top five average, you have to get outs. The best player in the NL only has one hit and they are still 2-0 in the series. ;)

Getting outs is the key. Cueto looked like he was about to go Kung-Fu on some people in the dugout after he was pulled.:) Despite his AWESOME ERA, this team refuses to back him offensively and get him a win.

[smitdavi]

Until we trade him;)
I think Alonso's being showcased right before the deadline with this call up.

Either way, it's good to see Gomes gone.:tu


I also chalk up tonight's loss to emotional problems due to the Gomes trade. He was liked by most of the clubhouse and they got little notice to say goodbye. He was actually in written in on today's lineup before the trade announcement.

IDK....4 days before the trade deadline is kind of late to showcase someone. If they wanted to do that they should have called him up weeks ago. I would be surprised if they moved him now.

[chippewastud79]

I know most of you aren't Pirates fans, but they got straight up hosed last night. :td

[Starscream]

IDK....4 days before the trade deadline is kind of late to showcase someone. If they wanted to do that they should have called him up weeks ago. I would be surprised if they moved him now.

Teams have scouts in the minors. True, he should have been brought up earlier if they wanted to showcase him in the bigs, but most scouting reports say he's a big liability in LF. I think he's up here on such short notice to hide that a bit and to showcase his hitting ability only. He's a slow guy, but he can hit. He should be playing at first, but Votto has him blocked.

[Starscream]

I know most of you aren't Pirates fans, but they got straight up hosed last night. :td

Although technically we're not out of it yet, it's pretty much a given. Once we're mathematically eliminated, I want the Pirates to take it. Pittsburgh fans deserve a win after all the crap they've been through for 20 years.

[smitdavi]

I know most of you aren't Pirates fans, but they got straight up hosed last night. :td

I follow the Pirates cuz their aaa affiliate is the Indianapolis Indians

[chippewastud79]

"I hope that Drew Stubbs is watching Reyes to learn how to be a good leadoff hitter. Stubbs can't do many of the things that Reyes does but he could learn them.....Reyes is a real leadoff hitter that Stubbs is not." :r

[Starscream]

This team just straight up sucks.

[kelmac07]

My Mets are giving it to the Reds again this evening. And Pelfrey sucks!! :D

[elderboy02]

That was a nice sliding catch by Yonder :tu

[chippewastud79]

My Mets are giving it to the Reds again this evening. And Pelfrey sucks!! :D

If beating the Reds is defining the season for the Mets, it is a sad state of affairs. The Reds are not a good baseball team, although some would lead you to believe they are. :rolleyes:

Pelfrey had as many hits as the Reds LEADOFF hitter tonight, probably because he should be in Louisville not Cincinnati. I did like the Reds broadcast team saying he should watch Reyes if he wants to TRY to be a leadoff hitter because he certainly isn't one right now. :hm

[Starscream]

Swept for the first time at home since '08. This team is pathetic. How does a team with this kind of talent just flat out suck?

[smitdavi]

Atleast Votto seems to be in quite the groove right now. Think that's 3 games in a row with a HR. If they are wanting to unload Alonso before the trade deadline they aren't doing a good job of showcasing him before Sunday. I have a hard time believing they just brought him up to ride the pine?!

[kelmac07]

I'm happy when my Mets beat anyone...let alone sweep someone at their home park. :D

[chippewastud79]

Swept for the first time at home since '08. This team is pathetic. How does a team with this kind of talent just flat out suck?

Talent. Now thats funny. There are about 5 players on their roster that would be considered a talent. Votto, Phillips, Cueto, Cordero and Rolen are about the only 5 this team couldn't really do without. No one in their outfield couldn't be upgraded. SS was a bad group before Cozart came up and is once again a liability. Catcher is a toss up, unless you could put the two of them together. Their rotation is suspect at best, 2 of them wouldn't be 5's on most rosters in the MLB. ;s

They got very lucky to win the division last year by beating terrible teams and playing the weakest schedule in baseball. Hell they won something like 25 games on the last out of the game. They were over-achievers and got run out of the playoffs. This year is just a continuation of last year with tougher competition. ;)

[Starscream]

Talent. Now thats funny. There are about 5 players on their roster that would be considered a talent. Votto, Phillips, Cueto, Cordero and Rolen are about the only 5 this team couldn't really do without. No one in their outfield couldn't be upgraded. SS was a bad group before Cozart came up and is once again a liability. Catcher is a toss up, unless you could put the two of them together. Their rotation is suspect at best, 2 of them wouldn't be 5's on most rosters in the MLB. ;s

They got very lucky to win the division last year by beating terrible teams and playing the weakest schedule in baseball. Hell they won something like 25 games on the last out of the game. They were over-achievers and got run out of the playoffs. This year is just a continuation of last year with tougher competition. ;)

Rolen and Cordero shoudln't be on the talent list anymore.:(
Maybe I should have said potential rather than talent. We have all these players with potential, but they just don't live up to it.

[chippewastud79]

Maybe I should have said potential rather than talent. We have all these players with potential, but they just don't live up to it.

By potential, I think you mean media driven hype. ;)

[Starscream]

Trivia question for the day. What is Stubbs' average this season on 0-2 counts?

Answer:
.000
:r

[chippewastud79]

Trivia question for the day. What is Stubbs' average this season on 0-2 counts?

Answer:
.000
:r

What's his K percentage? 98%? :su:td

[Starscream]

What's his K percentage? 98%? :su:td
28 of 33 were Ks.
How about strikeouts vs. strikeouts looking on an 0-2 count?:r

[chippewastud79]

28 of 33 were Ks.
How about strikeouts vs. strikeouts looking on an 0-2 count?:r

He is 0-2 tonight with an 0-2 count, only 1 K though. :rolleyes:

[elderboy02]

Reds win! Reds win! :banger :noon :tu :) :)

[jsnake]

Where do Royals fans go? I mean seriously we suck so bad we don't have our own thread. Being a Kansas City sports fan is tough.

[elderboy02]

Where do Royals fans go? I mean seriously we suck so bad we don't have our own thread. Being a Kansas City sports fan is tough.

Try being a Cincinnati fan. No world series wins since '90 and no super bowl wins either :td

[KidRock]

posting while severly **** faced (pwssf) tigers fan! go reds! :banger :banger see you clowns at shaaackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[chippewastud79]

posting while severly **** faced (pwssf) tigers fan! go reds! :banger :banger see you clowns at shaaackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

That typing is way too good for being **** faced. You should have drank a few more Jon. :tu

[chippewastud79]

Stubbs is 1 for 6 and the Reds win! What a surprise :rolleyes:

[KidRock]

That typing is way too good for being **** faced. You should have drank a few more Jon. :tu

I had a lot to drink, however you should see some of the text messages I sent out last night, lol.

[jsnake]

Try being a Cincinnati fan. No world series wins since '90 and no super bowl wins either :td
You got me there. Of course all our championships were before my fan days.

[Starscream]

Win 2, lose 4, win 2.

Looks like Jocketty had no interest in making trades this year. Guess we're gonna have to ride it out. No matter how good a player may have been if we had made a trade, it wouldn't make a difference anyway with this team. At least Gomes is gone.