Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!)

[thenewguy]

one other quick question... a buddy of mine just got a few makers mark cigars.. and a few others that were sealed in tubes. someone was telling me that they did not need to be in a humidor. is this true?

[chachee52]

one other quick question... a buddy of mine just got a few makers mark cigars.. and a few others that were sealed in tubes. someone was telling me that they did not need to be in a humidor. is this true?

From everything that I've read and learned in here, you should still put them in a humidor. The tubes are good short tern storage, but they are not "weather" proof. So if you were thinking about smoking it very soon, I would think that it would be fine, more than a week + i'd throw it in the humidor.

[JennaReanne]

hey everyone. I'm pretty new to the cigar scene, have tried a few and seem to like the real mild flavored ones. My current favorites are Cao Bella's Caramel flavored. Any suggestions for me to try?

Also, I know not to inhale, but my throat hurts alot when I smoke. Any suggestions? Am I doing something wrong?!?

Thanks! <3

-Jenna

[Whiskeytown]

Is it just me or are the Perdomo Lot 23 Maduros a very light maduro wrapper? They seem only a slight shade darker compared to the natural wrapper.

[theonlybear4CORT]

Is it just me or are the Perdomo Lot 23 Maduros a very light maduro wrapper? They seem only a slight shade darker compared to the natural wrapper.

Some mfg. die the wrappers so they get that dark black color,some will stain your fingers and lips.

[Drez]

Some mfg. die the wrappers so they get that dark black color,some will stain your fingers and lips.

+1 did RP do this with the edge?

[T.G]

hey everyone. I'm pretty new to the cigar scene, have tried a few and seem to like the real mild flavored ones. My current favorites are Cao Bella's Caramel flavored. Any suggestions for me to try?

Also, I know not to inhale, but my throat hurts alot when I smoke. Any suggestions? Am I doing something wrong?!?

Thanks! <3

-Jenna

My experience with flavored and infused cigars is limited so all I can recommend is the JAVA by Drew Estates and maybe the Tabak Especial Negras, also by Drew Estates. The Tabak is a fuller bodied cigar though.

To get more suggestions for flavored cigars, you're probably going to need greater exposure for your question than this thread will get. Your best bet is to search reviews (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=13) or general cigar discussion (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=5) for terms like "flavored cigars", "ACIDs", "infused" etc. Or post a new thread with your question in general cigar discussion.

As for the throat, you're probably not doing anything wrong, if you are a new smoker, it takes a little while for your body to get used to the smoke.

[T.G]

Is it just me or are the Perdomo Lot 23 Maduros a very light maduro wrapper? They seem only a slight shade darker compared to the natural wrapper.

Maduro, as the term is applied in the cigar description, means a more heavily fermented wrapper and not a specific shade. Some leaves/crops/batches will be darker, some will be lighter.

[Tyler]

How long should I let my new cigars rest before I can smoke them? I received two boxes in the mail today. I live in Texas so when I opened the UPS box I found the cigar boxes were very warm. They have been sitting in the coolidor for about 4 hours now.

To the question above: Some maduro wrappers, typically in cheaper maduro cigars, are dyed or altered to appear darker than they actually are, like Mike said. In my personal opinion the Lot 23 Maduros are naturally maduro and they do not try to dye them to make them appear darker. Just my two cents though.

[longknocker]

How long should I let my new cigars rest before I can smoke them? I received two boxes in the mail today. I live in Texas so when I opened the UPS box I found the cigar boxes were very warm. They have been sitting in the coolidor for about 4 hours now.

To the question above: Some maduro wrappers, typically in cheaper maduro cigars, are dyed or altered to appear darker than they actually are, like Mike said. In my personal opinion the Lot 23 Maduros are naturally maduro and they do not try to dye them to make them appear darker. Just my two cents though.

My Preference Is To Rest Them In My Cooler Or Humidor At Least 1 Month, But I'm OCD!:)

[Tyler]

Damn 1 month. I don't now if I can wait that long haha.

[longknocker]

Damn 1 month. I don't now if I can wait that long haha.

You Could Always Try "1" Right Now, But I Would Wait At "Least" A Week To Get The Sticks To The RH Of Your Humi. They Were Probably Shipped Very "Wet". :2

[T.G]

If I wanted to smoke the cigar that badly, and I had two boxes of them, I would have lit one up already. It's probably fine and I mean, what's the worst that can happen? It tastes a little bit off? Eh, big deal...

[pnoon]

You Could Always Try "1" Right Now, But I Would Wait At "Least" A Week To Get The Sticks To The RH Of Your Humi. They Were Probably Shipped Very "Wet". :2

Greg is wise.
I usually wait two weeks but a week minimum is a good rule of thumb. Gives the sticks time to acclimate to YOUR storage conditions.

[icehog3]

Follow the Rule of 3s.

[pnoon]

Follow the Rule of 3s.
:tpd:
Anonymous experts have confirmed the validity of this well-known rule. :rolleyes:

[Mattso3000]

Is that wait 3 minutes before you smoke 3 cigars while you have 3 drinks per cigar??

[Mattso3000]

If it is...I like that rule.

[Drez]

The rule of three is the most Important rule of all.........:r

[Tyler]

Nah I think the rule of threes is 3 girls, 3 cigars, 3 nights.

But you smoke the cigars, don't give them to the girls.

[Tyler]

Okay this might be a newbie question but in all of my years of cigar smoking I have always wondered this and never saw a clear answer.

When saying what kind of cigar it is what order do you say the size and wrapper?

For example: Is it a Indian Tabac Super Fuerte Maduro Toro, or is it Indian Tabac Super Fuerte Toro Maduro?

[Sherlockholms]

Indian Tabac Super Fuerte Toro Maduro
I have always seen the wrapper put at the end.

[NCRadioMan]

Since you are saying the same thing, why would it matter?

You're overthinking again. :D

[emopunker2004]

Since you are saying the same thing, why would it matter?

You're overthinking again. :D

:tpd:

[icehog3]

I don't smoke any cigars where I need to ID the wrapper. ;)

[bobarian]

I don't smoke any cigars where I need to ID the wrapper. ;)

:r Wise move, that's best left to the experts. :banger

[CigarNut]

I don't smoke any cigars where I need to ID the wrapper. ;)That's right -- you only smoke Ghurka's :lr

[icehog3]

:r Wise move, that's best left to the experts. :banger

I wasn't even meaning to go there. :r

What I meant was I smoke mostly from one country, and they only have one "maduro" wrappered line....which I ain't a big fan of. ;)

[Sherlockholms]

I wasn't even meaning to go there. :r

What I meant was I smoke mostly from one country, and they only have one "maduro" wrappered line....which I ain't a big fan of. ;)

One country? That is a bit limiting don't you think? You must be a man afraid of variety.

[Bill86]

One country? That is a bit limiting don't you think? You must be a man afraid of variety.

No Tom just chose the best country :D

There's a lot of variety in every country, once you find the one you like....why bother looking for more if you've tried a bit of everything.

Think about all the cigars produced....THOUSANDS. How could you ever get bored?

Different years taste different.....aging them....the possibilities are endless.

[Tyler]

I don't mind I you guys turn this into a banter thread but can you atleast answer the question. :r

[bobarian]

Since you are saying the same thing, why would it matter?

You're overthinking again. :D

Answered. :sh

[Bill86]

I don't mind I you guys turn this into a banter thread but can you atleast answer the question. :r

I think what it comes down to is. The manufactures can word it anyway they like.

And no one really seems to care or even take note. Probably most of us didn't even notice.

[emopunker2004]

Answered. :sh

:tpd:

[Tyler]

Dam

[emopunker2004]

Dam

:sl:sl:sl

[icehog3]

One country? That is a bit limiting don't you think? You must be a man afraid of variety.

:r

I have tried them all, and made an educated decision, Sherlock. Why smoke the rest when you can smoke the best (for me)?

And as Bill said, there is vast variety amongst smokes of one country...think Nicaragua or the Dominican Republic. Would you be afraid of variety if you only smoked cigars from one of those countries? Hell, Gurkha alone makes 27,381 varieties of cigars.

[Tyler]

If my last two cigar wrappers have split a little, more like a small crack in the wrapper, while smoking does this mean my humidor has too high a RH or too low?

[bobarian]

If my last two cigar wrappers have split a little, more like a small crack in the wrapper, while smoking does this mean my humidor has too high a RH or too low?

Much depends on the cigar and wrapper. Some Cameroon wrappers such as Fuente's can be very thin and susceptible to occasional splits. Others such as the old Padilla Achilles had very thin wrappers as well. If its just a small split then most likely not an Rh problem. :2

[Tyler]

They have just been very small splits. One was a Perdomo 10th Anniversary Champagne Figurado, the other was a Perdomo 10th Anniversary Maduro Epicure.

[sparkboss]

yet another newbie question from me!!

after messing with a small traveldor for a while i decided it wasn't really as large as i'd like... especially with the great abundance of sticks that bob sent me, even though my friends and i smoked a lot of them, had a sentimental value worthy of some aging :). anyhow, i invested in a slightly larger humidor (50ct) and with it got a 84% boveda pack, i left the pack in the humidor from about 13 days and 12 hours, too anxious to finish up the last 12 hours! well, i ended up tranferring my cigars to the new humidor and put my 65% BP in with them. they were fairly dry when i put them in and they've been in for a while now but some reason the 65% just wont seem to get them very humid, most remain dry to the touch and when i test by squeezing them softly they dont seem maliable at all.

would i be safe to insert my 84% BP again to get the cigars more humid? and how long would be acceptable before overhumidifying my sticks?

thanks again for all of you're assistance :)

[emopunker2004]

whats your hydrometer say?

[DPD6030]

All personal preference Micah. I would put a hydro in there that's calibrated and see what the reading is. The packs usually are low :2

[DPD6030]

One country? That is a bit limiting don't you think? You must be a man afraid of variety.

Oh he has plenty of variety. I've seen it first hand in his halli :D

[Blak Smyth]

I tried my first Opus X this weekend, it was amazing at first but then it killed me.
I hadn't eaten much that day, is that why I almost died or is the Opus X that strong?

Also what should I try next? I found a small B&M in Allentown PA that has a little lounge area (Where I grabbed the Opus X) and saw they have the 601 Blue and RP Vintage. Overall they had a real nice selection. I am thinking I'll try the 601 Blue next time.

[longknocker]

I tried my first Opus X this weekend, it was amazing at first but then it killed me.
I hadn't eaten much that day, is that why I almost died or is the Opus X that strong?

Also what should I try next? I found a small B&M in Allentown PA that has a little lounge area (Where I grabbed the Opus X) and saw they have the 601 Blue and RP Vintage. Overall they had a real nice selection. I am thinking I'll try the 601 Blue next time.

Opus X Is Strong!:) Always Brings Me To My Knees. 601 Blue Is An Excellent Smoke!:tu

[Blak Smyth]

Opus X Is Strong!:) Always Brings Me To My Knees. 601 Blue Is An Excellent Smoke!:tu

I gotta admit it was a humbling experience!
I've seen you guys all talk about the 601s so I figure I will give it a shot next time.
I paid $17 bucks for the Opus X, seemed really high to me but I really wanted it.
Afterward I searched online and didn't really find anything cheaper.
Is $17 average for an Opus X or is that just a rediculous amount to spend?

[emopunker2004]

I gotta admit it was a humbling experience!
I've seen you guys all talk about the 601s so I figure I will give it a shot next time.
I paid $17 bucks for the Opus X, seemed really high to me but I really wanted it.
Afterward I searched online and didn't really find anything cheaper.
Is $17 average for an Opus X or is that just a rediculous amount to spend?

do u know the vitola of the one u smoked?

[Blak Smyth]

do u know the vitola of the one u smoked?

It just said Fuente Fuente Opus X, didn't think to ask (Noob).
It didn't have any additional bands or anything on it. It was really long.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5311/5904853232_abb0079e6c.jpg

[emopunker2004]

i'd say u did good

[Blak Smyth]

i'd say u did good

Thanks for the enabling!

[emopunker2004]

Thanks for the enabling!

just sayin, most opus at my B&M range from the high teens to the high 20s

[Bill86]

Looks like an Opus X Double Corona, I believe I paid the same ~$20 for the two I had.

I haven't smoked too many Opus X, they aren't my thing, but I loved the double corona.

Hopefully you have the same experience.

[Blak Smyth]

Can somebody explain to this noob what NC means?

Example: "Show your latest NC purchase".

New Cigars?

[jonumberone]

NC= Non Cuban

Here is a thread with a list of some common acronyms.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2190

[Blak Smyth]

NC= Non Cuban

Here is a thread with a list of some common acronyms.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2190

Haha Oh man, I feel dumb because I just got that application for my Iphone that has my humidor inventory saved and you have to select Cuban or Non-Cuban. Didn't put it together.

Thanks for the insight.

[Brutus2600]

No worries Shane...it stumped me for a bit when I first got on the forums too. The acronym thread Dom linked is really useful for all the forum/cigar jargon we ramble on about :tu

[Sherlockholms]

Can somebody explain to this noob what NC means?

Example: "Show your latest NC purchase".

New Cigars?



Lol, it took me a while to know what this meant at first too. I thought it was Nicotine cigars when I first started smoking. :D

[CigarNut]

When I first saw "NC" I thought it meant "No Charge" -- and I thought, Great! :rolleyes:

[Flounder]

How do I view my rep?

[cort]

Click on "User CP" on the top left of the screen:tu

[lukemoney]

how do you get a perfect cut on cigar i have a guilotene cutter and it doesnt work right 3/4 of the time

[Sherlockholms]

how do you get a perfect cut on cigar i have a guilotene cutter and it doesnt work right 3/4 of the time

Lay the cutter flat and cut, make sure you cut swiftly with enough force. For me if I cut too slow it will not cut perfectly. What kind of cutter do you have?

[lukemoney]

its just a basic cutter from smoke shop

[Blak Smyth]

How do I view my rep?

You can also click on the small scale image on the bottom left of one of your own posts to see your rep number. FYI

[bobarian]

its just a basic cutter from smoke shop

I would recommend investing in a good cutter if you are serious about this hobby. You will save many cigars from being destroyed by a cheap blade.

I have 3 Palio's and love them all. The oldest has been cutting cigars to perfection for 4 years. http://www.cigarmony.com/palio.aspx

[emopunker2004]

I would recommend investing in a good cutter if you are serious about this hobby. You will save many cigars from being destroyed by a cheap blade.

I have 3 Palio's and love them all. The oldest has been cutting cigars to perfection for 4 years. http://www.cigarmony.com/palio.aspx

THIS plus, cigarmonster has Xikar Xi2 on there fairly often for under $30 shipped as well

[longknocker]

THIS plus, cigarmonster has Xikar Xi2 on there fairly often for under $30 shipped as well

My Everyday Cutter!:tu Lay The Cutter On A Flat Surface, Insert Cigar & Cut. Perfect Cut Every Time!:)

[sparkboss]

All personal preference Micah. I would put a hydro in there that's calibrated and see what the reading is. The packs usually are low :2


the one i've got in there isn't calibrated, but with my 65% i've got a reading of 70% so i figured it couldnt be TOO inaccurate. but regardless what stumped me is that even if the pack does run low and gives me, say 60%, i figured my sticks could get a little more humid than they are. unless 60% is far too low

[longknocker]

the one i've got in there isn't calibrated, but with my 65% i've got a reading of 70% so i figured it couldnt be TOO inaccurate. but regardless what stumped me is that even if the pack does run low and gives me, say 60%, i figured my sticks could get a little more humid than they are. unless 60% is far too low

My Preference Is The 62-66 Range.:tu

[Nash]

What does the term "toothy" mean when speaking of the wrapper?

[icehog3]

Usually it means the wrapper has a coarse texture

[Mattso3000]

Usually it means the wrapper has a coarse texture

Maduro and camaroon wrappers are naturally more coarse and frequently described as "toothy" Icehog3 nailed this one.

[sparkboss]

My Preference Is The 62-66 Range.:tu

if you put some dry sticks in your humidor how long do you think it'd take them to get in that 62-66 range? and what's your method of humidification :)

[longknocker]

if you put some dry sticks in your humidor how long do you think it'd take them to get in that 62-66 range? and what's your method of humidification :)

Less Than 24H For Me. Be Sure & Recalibrate Your Hygrometer When You Add A Lot Of Sticks To Your Humi. I Use 65% RH Boveda Packs From http://www.bovedadirect.com/ And 65 % Beads From Here:
http://www.shilalasbeads.com/
:)

[NCRadioMan]

if you put some dry sticks in your humidor how long do you think it'd take them to get in that 62-66 range? and what's your method of humidification :)

Depends on how dry they are. If they are really dry, it's a slow process to get them to be smokable again. At least 6-8 months, imo.

[Jbailey]

I will also add to Gregs post by suggesting slowly raising the RH over time if they are really dry.

[sparkboss]

oh wow.. alright i'll try to leave my humi closed for as long as possible.. someitmes i just get the urge to smell them though!

@greg, do you use both or one or the other?

and dave, i did increase it through a few small steps but i dont know if they were too dramatic. i put in my 65%, then after a few weeks did my 65% + water pillow (although im guessing the boveda would keep it the same as it was), then after no success for a month or two i threw in my 84%

[longknocker]

oh wow.. alright i'll try to leave my humi closed for as long as possible.. someitmes i just get the urge to smell them though!

@greg, do you use both or one or the other?

and dave, i did increase it through a few small steps but i dont know if they were too dramatic. i put in my 65%, then after a few weeks did my 65% + water pillow (although im guessing the boveda would keep it the same as it was), then after no success for a month or two i threw in my 84%

You May Have A "Leaky" Humi (Poor Seal). You Should Be Able To Place A Dollar Bill Under The Closed Lid & Pull The Humi Without The Bill Coming Out. I Use Shilala's Beads Primarily & A Few 65% RH Boveda Packs In Each Humi & Coolidor To Get The RH To 63-66. You Shouldn't Need 84% To Maintain RH.

[sparkboss]

well, i'm doing okay holding a RH, the only problem is getting the humidity back into the sticks i've got. most the sticks i have are in pretty bad shape since everything i order takes so long to get here. i've also tested my seal a few times with bobs' 1" drop method, tests nothing but positive :)

[Blak Smyth]

Can I stand cigars on end in my humidor, with the foot down or is it best to leave flat?

[chippewastud79]

Can I stand cigars on end in my humidor, with the foot down?

Yes. :tu

[NCRadioMan]

You can but you risk damaging the foot of the cigar. I wouldn't consider it. I have a few jars and I even lie them on their side.

:2

[racerX]

For those who freeze to keep the bugs away, do you see any issues with a week long stint in the garage freezer? I have to wait for some beads to arrive.

[T.G]

For those who freeze to keep the bugs away, do you see any issues with a week long stint in the garage freezer? I have to wait for some beads to arrive.

Nope. I always freeze for a week, never had an issue with it yet.

[racerX]

Nope. I always freeze for a week, never had an issue with it yet.

Thank you so much for your reply. Big relief.

[Hippiebrian]

I'm a newbie, and so far have read through about 3/4 of this thread, so if I missed a question and am re-posting one ;s.

I currently would like to store just a few sticks (say a dozen to 20 or so) at a time while I find my palete (sp?). I'm thinking about buying one of those stoneware jars I se at shops. Will this work well, or would I be better ff with a little tupperdore? The jars have the cool factor, but if the tupper would be better for a month's worth (or so) sticks, I'll use that.

I'm also thinking of eventually setting up a coolerdore, but live in a house where there's no a/c. I'm thinking freezer packs to keep it under 70 degrees when it gets into the 80's in the house. Would that work? Otherwise, I may not ever worry about long term storage, as I love visiting shops and buying a few new sticks at a time anyhow. Part of the experience for me, ya know?

Thanks all!

[Cornrow_Wallis]

I'm a newbie, and so far have read through about 3/4 of this thread, so if I missed a question and am re-posting one ;s.

I currently would like to store just a few sticks (say a dozen to 20 or so) at a time while I find my palete (sp?). I'm thinking about buying one of those stoneware jars I se at shops. Will this work well, or would I be better ff with a little tupperdore? The jars have the cool factor, but if the tupper would be better for a month's worth (or so) sticks, I'll use that.
If the jar seals reasonably well I don't think it would be a problem. I'm guessing those things wouldn't have any sort of weird smell to them, but I don't know for sure. That might be something to look out for.

I'm also thinking of eventually setting up a coolerdore, but live in a house where there's no a/c. I'm thinking freezer packs to keep it under 70 degrees when it gets into the 80's in the house. Would that work? Otherwise, I may not ever worry about long term storage, as I love visiting shops and buying a few new sticks at a time anyhow. Part of the experience for me, ya know?

Thanks all!
I think the freezer packs would be a pain. I also think that the condensation they give off as they melt would play hell with your humidity, but that is just a guess. I don't know anyone that has tried it.

How hot does your house get? Set up the cooler in the coolest spot you have and freeze all the cigars you buy to minimize the risk of beetles. Here is a thread on how to freeze. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919

If you keep an eye on craigslist you might be able to score a used wine cooler on the cheap. That is a popular option around here, and sounds like it might work well for you down the road.

[Hippiebrian]

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for a wine fridge, as I probably won't get a big stock for a bit. I share a freezer with a room mate, so really don't have room in there to freeze too many sticks.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the wine fridge works better than a regular one due to the different way it cools, correct? Do those little cheapo fridges cool like a regular one or a wine fridge? Just a thought, as those tiny fridges can be had fairly cheap and would be fairly easy to make seal, if they don't already. I guess the other problem would be if they got too cold even at a higher setting.

[CigarNut]

The wine refrigerators that are best for cigar storage use thermo-electric cooling units. The "standard" refrigerators use a compressor for cooling. Thermo-electric is much better for cooling our cigars and the units generally have less internal condensation.

[Hippiebrian]

Thanks, cigarnut. I'll keep an eye out for one!

[Hippiebrian]

I've been curiously peeking at those, for lack of a better term, peppermint mint striped cigars. You know, with both wnat appears to be natural and maduro wrappers. Is this a gimmick I shouldn't bother to try or is there a paticular flavor to them that may (or may not) be intrigueing? I'd like some opinions, as these seem gimmicky, but this newbie could be dead wrong!

[CigarNut]

They are typically called "Barber Poles". Several manufacturers make them. Some are good some are not. I happen to like this one:

http://img.cigarsinternational.com/p/500/sp/s/sp-s0basst1.jpg

Nub (by Oliva) also had a Barber Pole that they gave away at events.

If you see one, give it a try -- that is the best way to find out what you like.

[Hippiebrian]

So, more than just a gimmick then? Thanks. Oh. by the way I meant peppermint sticks not peppermint mints. I'm really not that redundant! Lol!

Anyways, might give one or two a try then.

[T.G]

So, more than just a gimmick then? Thanks. Oh. by the way I meant peppermint sticks not peppermint mints. I'm really not that redundant! Lol!

Anyways, might give one or two a try then.

Visually, yes, it's a gimmick, BUT, it's not necessarily a bad gimmick. It does create a unique flavor and taste combination by allowing you to burn multiple capas at the same time.

More of the different names for the styles of the multi-capa cigars were discussed here:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=43208

[Hippiebrian]

Thanks again for all the info! That thread told me all I wanted to know, thanks! Might have to spring for one of these some day...

[VACigarSmoker]

I like the little cigars that some in the tins. For a commute smoke or for a quickie. Should I put these in the humidor? I have been, but they are not kept in the humidor at the store. Just curious what people's thoughts were.

[T.G]

I like the little cigars that some in the tins. For a commute smoke or for a quickie. Should I put these in the humidor? I have been, but they are not kept in the humidor at the store. Just curious what people's thoughts were.

Not knowing what brand they are to say if they are treated with glycol and other ingredients to make them shelf stable or if they are dry cured, I can just say that it really won't hurt any of the brands to be stored in a humidor, and if they are not treated or dry cured, it should definitely help them.

[Tyler]

Not knowing what brand they are to say if they are treated with glycol and other ingredients to make them shelf stable or if they are dry cured, I can just say that it really won't hurt any of the brands to be stored in a humidor, and if they are not treated or dry cured, it should definitely help them.

Agreed. I have some RyJ and Cohiba ones that I keep in my humidor.

[chachee52]

I've been buying some of the small tin Rock Patells and Padrons. My wife likes them because that's about all that she wants to smoke. i also hand them out to friends that want a cigar but have never really smoked. But I also enjoy them for a quick smoke if I am out in the garage cleaning.
I do keep mine in the humidor usually a week or two before I smoke them.

[lukemoney]

i have a box of cigars that i got recently and when i cut them the wrapper unravels and i have to throw them away how do i stop that from happening?

[pnoon]

i have a box of cigars that i got recently and when i cut them the wrapper unravels and i have to throw them away how do i stop that from happening?

You are likely cutting too much off the head of the cigar - beyond the "shoulder". You should cut off only the cap. Thin to win

[longknocker]

You are likely cutting too much off the head of the cigar - beyond the "shoulder". You should cut off only the cap. Thin to win

:tu Best Way To Learn Is : 1. Place Open Cutter On A Flat Surface Like A Table.
2. Place Cigar In Open Cutter Which Is Flat On The
Table & Make The Cut.

:tu

[lukemoney]

thanks i will give that a try

[lukemoney]

and what is a good kind of cutter to have

[area51]

Remember to always cut less than you think you need to, you can always cut more if need be.

[area51]

and what is a good kind of cutter to have

Most people on here swear by Palio or Xikar.

[longknocker]

and what is a good kind of cutter to have

Palio Or Xikar IMO. Most People Here Prefer Palio, But My Everyday Cutter Is This:
http://www.xikar.com/cutters_xi208.asp# I Have The Carbon Fiber Look.

Sometimes You Can Find It Cheaper On www.cigarmonster.com :tu

Just Checked: On Sale At The Above Site For $20.95 :)

[Bill86]

and what is a good kind of cutter to have

Xikar 009 Punch, fool proof. Xikar warranty = WIN!

They cost about $19 on cigar monster.com when they show up on the mashup.

[CigarNut]

When you are starting out you should get a variety of inexpensive cutters and punches -- helps figure out what you like so you where to spend the real money. You may also find that you are happy with the inexpensive cutters/punches...

As others have said when it comes to cutting -- less is more :)

:2

[Sherlockholms]

When freezing cigars how long after freezing them can you ship them out?

[pnoon]

When freezing cigars how long after freezing them can you ship them out?

I would wait as long as you would before smoking them yourself.
I don't freeze but I would suggest a week or two in your own normal stable environment should be fine.

[Sherlockholms]

I would wait as long as you would before smoking them yourself.
I don't freeze but I would suggest a week or two in your own normal stable environment should be fine.

That clears it up for me :) . I was going to jump in the PIF but the sticks I am going to send are in the freezer right now. I will wait a few weeks before Sending them out :tu

[lukemoney]

thanks i gonna check into getting that

[fritz43096]

I was at my "not as local as I wish it were" cigar shop the other day and mentioned to the man running the store that I did most of my shopping online bcause I live so far out of the city. He said something like, "thats a shame because cigars that you buy online are made to be sold online." Does anyone know what he might have meant? (I didn't much care for the guy so I didn't continue the conversation, bought my sticks and left.)

Is there a difference in cigars sold online vs in a store?

[icehog3]

I was at my "not as local as I wish it were" cigar shop the other day and mentioned to the man running the store that I did most of my shopping online bcause I live so far out of the city. He said something like, "thats a shame because cigars that you buy online are made to be sold online." Does anyone know what he might have meant? (I didn't much care for the guy so I didn't continue the conversation, bought my sticks and left.)

Is there a difference in cigars sold online vs in a store?

Classic. We had quite the discussion about this some time ago.

My opinion? Absolutely none.

[icehog3]

Classic. We had quite the discussion about this some time ago.

My opinion? Absolutely none.

Happy reading. :r

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10764

[T.G]

I was at my "not as local as I wish it were" cigar shop the other day and mentioned to the man running the store that I did most of my shopping online bcause I live so far out of the city. He said something like, "thats a shame because cigars that you buy online are made to be sold online." Does anyone know what he might have meant? (I didn't much care for the guy so I didn't continue the conversation, bought my sticks and left.)

Is there a difference in cigars sold online vs in a store?

Unfortunately, that's a very oft repeated, but largely inaccurate statement.

In all the factories I have been to, I have never seen any such thing as a difference in _the_cigars_. I have seen packaging differences though. Sometimes, large e-tailers with substantial buying power, will order a very large quantity of cigars to be delivered in factory mazos (cellophane wrapped bundles) of 20 cigars (or whatever, 10, 15, 25...) rather than in boxes, in order to get the cigars at a lower price since they aren't paying for a box.

I have personally watched the cigars being pulled from a singe batch in the aging room, be delivered to the sorting tables, be color sorted and bundled, these bundles then handed off randomly to the banding and cello tables, then passed to the final assembly of one section doing boxes, the other packing mazos. No distinction whatsoever is made for the cigars. They all started from the same batch and any one cigar could have ended up in either a box or a mazo - it all depended on which table it randomly ended up at.

[fritz43096]

Wow....um..in an effort to keep what happened on that original thread that Icehog linked for me from happening here....I've got my answer..thanks!

[icehog3]

Wow....um..in an effort to keep what happened on that original thread that Icehog linked for me from happening here....I've got my answer..thanks!

Good call, Brent! ;) :r

[VACigarSmoker]

I was just looking at the Oliva site and read this. "Proper storage is fundamental. Cigars should be stored without cellophane in a humidor which has an adequate seal."

I've always kept my cigars in the cellophane just wanted to kick it around here.

[Average Joe]

I was just looking at the Oliva site and read this. "Proper storage is fundamental. Cigars should be stored without cellophane in a humidor which has an adequate seal."

I've always kept my cigars in the cellophane just wanted to kick it around here.

:sl :r

[icehog3]

I was just looking at the Oliva site and read this. "Proper storage is fundamental. Cigars should be stored without cellophane in a humidor which has an adequate seal."

I've always kept my cigars in the cellophane just wanted to kick it around here.

The cigars will be just fine in the cello. :tu

[CigarNut]

The cigars will be just fine in the cello. :tuTom is wise! (and apparently Oliva is not)

[longknocker]

The cigars will be just fine in the cello. :tu

Tom is wise! (and apparently Oliva is not)

I Always Leave Mine In Cello If They Come That Way. It Gives The Sticks Some Protection & Air Flows Through The Cello Just Fine. :tu

[chachee52]

So I was talking to a friend about a cigar that he had gifted me and how the ash was SUPER straight and how the next day I had one of my favorite cigars and the ash was titled.
He was telling me that a cigar is like wine and needs to be rotated occationally to keep the humidity equal around it.
Now He does have a very large collection and it was a very well kept cigar so I believe him, but it got me wondering....... How often do you rotate the cigars and while turning them, do you also put it into a different area in the humidor?

[CigarNut]

So I was talking to a friend about a cigar that he had gifted me and how the ash was SUPER straight and how the next day I had one of my favorite cigars and the ash was titled.
He was telling me that a cigar is like wine and needs to be rotated occationally to keep the humidity equal around it.
Now He does have a very large collection and it was a very well kept cigar so I believe him, but it got me wondering....... How often do you rotate the cigars and while turning them, do you also put it into a different area in the humidor?Rotation is one of the religious questions some do it, some don't and everyone is happy with what they do or don't do.

Some tobacco blends and rollers produce better ash than others. Not sure that there is anything more to it than that. The RH range that we tend to keep our cigars at (~ 60%-70%) is pretty narrow. Not sure how to correlate RH with "tight ash".

In any case, I would not worry about it. Just enjoy your cigar :ss

[Brutus2600]

So I was talking to a friend about a cigar that he had gifted me and how the ash was SUPER straight and how the next day I had one of my favorite cigars and the ash was titled.
He was telling me that a cigar is like wine and needs to be rotated occationally to keep the humidity equal around it.
Now He does have a very large collection and it was a very well kept cigar so I believe him, but it got me wondering....... How often do you rotate the cigars and while turning them, do you also put it into a different area in the humidor?

I bought some aged cigars recently that hadn't been removed from their box at all since the day they were bought. Every one I burned burned crooked because they had been sitting so long in what I'm guessing was a bit higher humidity than I keep my cigars (65%). I've rotated them and will let them rest in my humi for a while before I smoke another.

All my other cigars, in a box or not...I've never rotated and haven't had any burning issues unless the cigar itself has construction issues.

Long answer short: I wouldn't worry about rotating your cigars.

[iamsolitary]

I'm curious what people use to take notes on the cigars they have tried. I am a cigar newb and I want to try a variety of cigars to figure out what I like.

A notebook would be a simple solution but I feel like after a very short while it would become a pain to look through.

[CigarNut]

Poeple use all kinds of stuff for notes. Word, Excel, a notebook, etc. A CA member created an iPhone app called Mobile Stogie that is also quite popular. You can find it in the App store. There are also a couple of apps for Android phones.

[area51]

I use Cigar Aficionados' Personal Humidor.

[Tyler]

Good call, Brent! ;) :r

That thread is full of so many grammatical errors that I can not stand it. :bhd

I don't want to beat a dead horse so that is all I am going to say but it really bothered me when they went at it and couldn't even spell correctly lol.

:gn:bdh

[TwiceTheJava]

I need help using and maintaining my torch lighters.

My luck with butane torch lighters is so bad that at this point it can't be bad luck, I must be doing something wrong. I've now purchased two expensive, dual-torch lighters (I'm not sure of the brand of my first, got it at a B&M years ago) and a Xikar Element.

The old one takes a dozen attempts to get a flame, which then goes out instantly. A few more dozen attempts and I either get a flame that lasts long enough to light a cigar, or I give up and use a cheap disposable.

The Xikar Element never lights on the first try (but always on the second try). After trying suggestions I read on here and adjusting the flame level, I made it worse. Now it takes several attempts to get it lit. I'm on my first "fill up" of the Xikar and I haven't even used it to light a cigar yet.

What I'm doing with the old one:
When fuel is low, I empty it completely by taking something small & pointy and pressing it to the refill nozzle thingy. I make sure it empties completely. I turn the lighter upside down, insert the butane refill, press and hold for a few seconds until the fuel indicator window looks filled. I have the flame adjustment knob set usually between 60-90% of maximum flame height.

The result is a hard time lighting them, and sputtering flames that look like there is too much air mixed in with the fuel. Oh, and I don't know what people are talking about when they use these things in the wind. A gentle breeze blows them out. Sometimes the old one goes out because it's too close to my face and my exhaling puts it out.

What am I doing wrong!?

[Bill86]

Poor quality butane maybe? Try using Vector.

[kickerb]

Yeah, make sure you use a good quality butane.

[Chainsaw13]

Poor quality butane maybe? Try using Vector.

Or Lava if you can still find it.

[Cornrow_Wallis]

The xikars have a good warranty don't they? If you can't get it fixed tinkering with it, send it back.

My lotus was like your xikar where it wouldn't light on the first click, it would take two clicks every single time. I read somewhere that you ought to push the button slowly and that would help. I started doing that and now it lights on the first click, unless I forget and mash the button down. Also, it sounds like you may have the flame on the element set too low now, try turning it up a bit and see if that helps.

No clue on the older lighter, sorry. Like those guys said, make sure you are using good butane.

[Devanmc]

id just send the xikar in to be fixed. they have a great warranty. It was easy to see my last punch had been "abused" but they just replaced it no questions asked.

[Mattso3000]

Ronson Jetlite... for the price of the xikar you can buy 8 and one will be bound to work perfectly!

[Doctorossi]

Ronson Jetlite... for the price of the xikar you can buy 8 and one will be bound to work perfectly!

:tpd:

IMO, probably tied with the Palio cutter for best accessory bargain on the planet. -(P

[Mattso3000]

:tpd:

IMO, probably tied with the Palio cutter for best accessory bargain on the planet. -(P

Yeah, forgot to add the other 7 will work just fine and you can re-sell them on here to anyone that can't find one. Love those things.

[Devanmc]

Ronson Jetlite... for the price of the xikar you can buy 8 and one will be bound to work perfectly!

i use my ronson more then my xikar and idc what happens to the ronson. which reminds me i need to buy more.

[Mattso3000]

i use my ronson more then my xikar and idc what happens to the ronson. which reminds me i need to buy more.

half the time I forget it out on the patio table and 3 days later sit down and pick it up to fire up another cigar. Hasn't failed me yet for $5.

[T.G]

Or Lava if you can still find it.

Lava is getting very scarce these days but Tattooworks butane is alegedly the same formula/butane just under a new name due to the unexpected / untimely death of the owner of Lava which caused the name to get tied up in court for royalties or usage rights somehow.

http://www.lavabutane.com/

In unscientific testing of the product by simply using it my torches (yeah, I actually do use torches once in a while) I didn't notice any performance difference between Lava and Tattooworks, and both performed better than Vector.

[hscmit]

didnt realize that about lava

I have used their butane for years and always been very happy with it

[irratebass]

Ok I got through all 70 pages of this thread and didn't see an answer for this seriously noob question:

What is a punch? Is it just inserting a pen or a golf tee into the cap?
Those keychain things are they punches?

Really confused on this, I have a CHEAP cutter that I am not very happy with and looking for alternatives, I know about your fav cutters, but curious about these punches.....it sounds like the punch is a lot less hassle, but I could be wrong.

[CigarNut]

A punch is a device that punches a hole in the tip of the cigar.

http://www.famous-smoke.com/cigars/skupics/fir/CU-FIR-PP010BK-400.jpg

You could use a golf tee or a pen -- I'm sure that you would not be the first. Most punches only pierce the wrapper and help to remove the cut-out piece of wrapper. Punches come in various sizes to accomodate different ring gauges.

One thing about a punch -- the open area tends to be smaller with a punch than with a cutter which may cause more tar build-up as you smoke.

You can pick up a nice punch to try out for just a few dollars.

[irratebass]

Thanks Michael, that looks like a large punch, unless you push it and it extends into a smaller pen like thing, thanks for the pic, that helps.....I need to experiment.

[irratebass]

Sorry I waited too long and couldn't edit my previous post...got another question:

I am going out and planning on getting 2-3 sticks today, I still don't have my humidor can I just store them in plastic bags until I am ready to smoke? Or do you suggest freezing them? If I do freeze them, how long do I have to wait after taking them out can I smoke them?

Thanks

[Bill86]

Sorry I waited too long and couldn't edit my previous post...got another question:

I am going out and planning on getting 2-3 sticks today, I still don't have my humidor can I just store them in plastic bags until I am ready to smoke? Or do you suggest freezing them? If I do freeze them, how long do I have to wait after taking them out can I smoke them?

Thanks

You could always buy a 5-15 count traveler and a boveda pack till you get a proper humidor. Not like you won't end up using a travel humidor again someday anyways.

I'm sure they will keep decent for quite a while in a tupperware container. Get a boveda pack and toss it in there, cheap easy solution.

[688sonarmen]

Bodivas will last for several months. Like Bill said a tupperware container may be your best option. As far as freezing goes that is typically something for the really sick folk with very large collections that can't be checked 100% every day or week. (Checking each box/each stick for beetles) but some info from guys much smarter than I on it

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919&highlight=freezing+science

[irratebass]

Thanks Bill & Jake my funds are very limited, but will take note on that, because I am sure down the road I will need something like this.

I did find a water pillow and will use that for these cheapies I just bought.

[Whee]

Sorry I waited too long and couldn't edit my previous post...got another question:

I am going out and planning on getting 2-3 sticks today, I still don't have my humidor can I just store them in plastic bags until I am ready to smoke? Or do you suggest freezing them? If I do freeze them, how long do I have to wait after taking them out can I smoke them?

Thanks

Plastic bags will work fine for the short term. I've used Tupperware in the past as well. Cheap and works well.


Not sure on the freezing question, but your answer may be in here.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919&highlight=freezing

[irratebass]

Thanks, I figure with the pillow and only for a week I should be ok.-(P

[bobarian]

Ziplock bags are fine for temporary storage. Just ask MoTheMan. :banger

[irratebass]

Stupid question maybe, but look up at Illinoishoosier's info.....what are those circles at the bottom? I have one....is this in regards to trades, and I have seen some people have two cigar bands at the bottom, I only have one....or is this something that will be opened to me later after I have been here longer?

[pnoon]

Circles are added as levels of "reputation" are reached. The circles or measure of rep means squat. People give rep for a variety of valid or inane reasons. The rep system is just a vehicle to send a personal/private note to another member. Some members, like me, have disabled the display of the rings.

The two bands you speak of can be set from you user control panel. One is for your favorite Cuba marca. The other is for actve/retired miltary folks.
Posted via Mobile Device

[icehog3]

It is "reputation" given by other members. I have mine disabled.

Click on the "scales" icon to give it.

[irratebass]

Peter....D'oh I knew it was for the military, thanks as well Tom

[Whee]

Stupid question maybe, but look up at Illinoishoosier's info.....what are those circles at the bottom? I have one....is this in regards to trades, and I have seen some people have two cigar bands at the bottom, I only have one....or is this something that will be opened to me later after I have been here longer?

They're donuts for when I get hungry later. ;)

[irratebass]

They're donuts for when I get hungry later. ;)



:D:tu:dr

[Tallman]

Wrappers splitting...
Hello all, noob question-is "too dry" or "too humid" more likely to cause split wrappers? Or is it not that simple?
I just pulled an Oliva connecticut shade stick out of the humidor, and it was split near the foot And the wrapper was coming "unwrapped" up near the cap. I then pulled an Ashton Cabinet belicoso out and the wrapper was coming unwound up near the cap...that one brought a tear to my eye so I smoked it. My digital has been showing a steady 68-70 rh forever...humi is a Vigilant 1500 (yeah, sure) stick end-table style cabinet. Any thoughts appreciated.
Murray

[chippewastud79]

Wrappers splitting...
Hello all, noob question-is "too dry" or "too humid" more likely to cause split wrappers? Or is it not that simple?
I just pulled an Oliva connecticut shade stick out of the humidor, and it was split near the foot And the wrapper was coming "unwrapped" up near the cap. I then pulled an Ashton Cabinet belicoso out and the wrapper was coming unwound up near the cap...that one brought a tear to my eye so I smoked it. My digital has been showing a steady 68-70 rh forever...humi is a Vigilant 1500 (yeah, sure) stick end-table style cabinet. Any thoughts appreciated.
Murray

Sounds like you might be cutting too much of the cap. :2

[bobarian]

Unwrapping near the cap is unusual, the cap should keep the wrapper in place, that's the reason for the cap in the first place. Were the caps intact? You many need to recalibrate your hygrometer. What are you using for humidification? In a larger unit like that you may need several sources to keep the humidity even throughout. :2

[CigarNut]

One other thing that can cause wrappers to split is a big difference in humidity between what the cigars are stored at in your humidor and the ambient humidity where you are smoking.

I'm not sure that this is your problem, but it is something to be aware of.

[Tallman]

Unwrapping near the cap is unusual, the cap should keep the wrapper in place, that's the reason for the cap in the first place. Were the caps intact? You many need to recalibrate your hygrometer. What are you using for humidification? In a larger unit like that you may need several sources to keep the humidity even throughout. :2

Thank you. The cap was intact, I've tried to attach a photo and couldn't figure out how to resize it...I'll work on that tomorrow. The Ashton is now a happy memory. The humidor has a water tray, wick and fan, and I have a couple Bovedas scattered throughout. The hygrometer was recalibrated using the moist salt method about two weeks ago.

Murray

[irratebass]

How often should you refill your humidifier?

[bobarian]

Thank you. The cap was intact, I've tried to attach a photo and couldn't figure out how to resize it...I'll work on that tomorrow. The Ashton is now a happy memory. The humidor has a water tray, wick and fan, and I have a couple Bovedas scattered throughout. The hygrometer was recalibrated using the moist salt method about two weeks ago.

Murray

Interesting. Splits can occur randomly although they can be an indication of high humidity. Sometimes with active humidification like yours the sticks closer to the source will be slightly higher rh. But as to the cause of the unwrapping at the cap I am stumped. If its just a stick or two maybe it was just a random occurrence, more than that I would look deeper for a cause.

How often should you refill your humidifier?

This would depend on the type of humidifier. Active humidifiers like Oasis or Hydra's have a reservoir you fill when it runs dry. Gel or beads will turn color as they dry and require water. The other indicator would be when your rh drops below your desired level by 5% or more. :2

[irratebass]

Interesting. Splits can occur randomly although they can be an indication of high humidity. Sometimes with active humidification like yours the sticks closer to the source will be slightly higher rh. But as to the cause of the unwrapping at the cap I am stumped. If its just a stick or two maybe it was just a random occurrence, more than that I would look deeper for a cause.



This would depend on the type of humidifier. Active humidifiers like Oasis or Hydra's have a reservoir you fill when it runs dry. Gel or beads will turn color as they dry and require water. The other indicator would be when your rh drops below your desired level by 5% or more. :2

These humidifiers:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/photobucket-4990-1313780527578.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/photobucket-2315-1313374042095.jpg
Bottom pic the humidifier is in the top middle section above the case.

[bobarian]

Those look like foam filled humidifiers. Unless you are using propylene glycol all they do is add moisture, very difficult to regulate with those as they do not absorb excess humidity. I would switch to a couple of 1oz tubes of Heartfelt beads(heartfeltindustries.com) or a Puck from Cigarmony.com. The Puck is filled with beads. Both are trouble free and easy to use. :2

[T.G]

Credos have no visual indicator Mike. You have to wait for the humidity to drop in your humidor to know that they need watering. Furthermore, they are just plain horrible humidifiers. One way only, no capability for absorbing excess moisture, no indicator of when they need watering, great potential for mold. They were great at one time, but mind you, so was a clay brick soaked in water, in fact, there really isn't much difference other than the brick being around for a century or two. We have the technology for better, so why not use it? Ditch the Credos and get beads (or gel, although gel doesn't absorb excess moisture/humidity very quickly).

[Tallman]

[QUOTE=bobarian;1389281]Interesting. Splits can occur randomly although they can be an indication of high humidity. Sometimes with active humidification like yours the sticks closer to the source will be slightly higher rh. But as to the cause of the unwrapping at the cap I am stumped. If its just a stick or two maybe it was just a random occurrence, more than that I would look deeper for cause.

Thank you. I'm beginning to think "random", as I pulled another hundred or so sticks out ( a bunch of different stuff I've bought as singles or fivers, and keep in boxes I got at the B & M) and found no other sticks showing splits. Good exercise for me, though, taking them out and rolling them to "feel" how humid they are. I think I need to drop the rh down to 65 or so...
M

[Chris.]

My RH stays around 63-65%. I haven't calibrated my hygrometer in quite some times though. Reckon I need to do that soon...

[Tallman]

Thank you. The cap was intact, I've tried to attach a photo and couldn't figure out how to resize it...I'll work on that tomorrow. The Ashton is now a happy memory. The humidor has a water tray, wick and fan, and I have a couple Bovedas scattered throughout. The hygrometer was recalibrated using the moist salt method about two weeks ago.

Murray

One other thing that can cause wrappers to split is a big difference in humidity between what the cigars are stored at in your humidor and the ambient humidity where you are smoking.

I'm not sure that this is your problem, but it is something to be aware of.

Thank you ...RH here in NW Arkansas today is a smooooth 84%. I wouldn't think that would be the issue, but as you said, something to be aware of.

[Cawndor]

I cannot seem to get my 2 desktop humidors to drop below 73%RH. I've taken out the humidifiers and its seems 73% is the lowest I can get it to drop. I Live in the Northeast and it's very humid this time of year. I just purchased Heartfelt beads humidity tube 65% and I'm hoping that will solve my problems. Have I missed anything?

Thanks

[Drez]

I cannot seem to get my 2 desktop humidors to drop below 73%RH. I've taken out the humidifiers and its seems 73% is the lowest I can get it to drop. I Live in the Northeast and it's very humid this time of year. I just purchased Heartfelt beads humidity tube 65% and I'm hoping that will solve my problems. Have I missed anything?

Thanks

Have you aired out the humi? Take whatever sticks you have out and out them in a Tupperware or zip lock bag and leave the humi open for a few hours. Then close and check the hygro after a few hours. Repeat as needed.

Also make surethe hygro is calibrated and has fresh batteries.

[Bill86]

I cannot seem to get my 2 desktop humidors to drop below 73%RH. I've taken out the humidifiers and its seems 73% is the lowest I can get it to drop. I Live in the Northeast and it's very humid this time of year. I just purchased Heartfelt beads humidity tube 65% and I'm hoping that will solve my problems. Have I missed anything?

Thanks

How long have you given the beads to level out the humidity?

How's the seal on these humidors?

[Drez]

How long have you given the beads to level out the humidity?

How's the seal on these humidors?

I don't think they came in yet bill also if the seal was poor it would prob have a hard time holding humidity. If it's not dropping below 73 then my guess is either it's over saturated or the hygro needs to be recalibrated (and have the batts checked).

Sounds like the seal is good. How are the sticks smoking?

[Cawndor]

Bill, I have not received the beads yet.

The seals seem to be fine. I bought both humidors new over the past month and have analog and digital hygros for both (salt tested and got 75%RH) I will try airing the humi's out to see if that fixes my issue. Thanks again for the help, much appreciated.

[DPD6030]

How many cigars you got in the humidor? Maybe the cigars are too humid and need to be dry-boxed a bit. That may bring the humidity down. :2 Do you have a hygro out of the humidor so you see what the surrounding humidity in the room is?

[Cawndor]

I have a small 50ct and a slightly larger 75ct. Both are only 1/2 full now, but were 80% full the 1st week I bought them. I bought a bunch of samplers from a website, one that MANY members here suggest against buying from. Many of the cigars came with cracked wrappers and were dried out. The Temp/RH in my house is around 74F/70%

I seasoned the humidors with a light wipe down of interior with distilled water and left a small bowl inside over night. The smaller one seemed to be ok but over time the RH would increase. The larger one was at 80%RH and after removing the humidifier I've gotten it down to around 73%.

I'm going to try Drez suggestion today. The sticks are hit or miss. Some are tunneling others smoke great.

[irratebass]

Bob & Adam, thanks again for your know how's....Bob that heartfelt site didn't come up, but I haven't googled it yet either.......looks like I need to get some beads.

[icehog3]

http://heartfeltindustries.com/products.asp?cat=65%25+Rh+Humidity+Beads

[irratebass]

Perfect Tom thanks :tu

[MrClean]

So I'd like to get on the NST list pretty soon. But I'm wondering what are best ways to ship sticks. I see the cool 'slotted' ziploc style bags, but I'm having trouble locating them for sale.

[Bill86]

So I'd like to get on the NST list pretty soon. But I'm wondering what are best ways to ship sticks. I see the cool 'slotted' ziploc style bags, but I'm having trouble locating them for sale.

There are group buys here usually. With more participation you'll see that forum shortly.

No post count or time duration, just participation.

There probably won't be another for a good bit, a few months I would imagine.

Vacuum sealing a zip-block bag (probably a storage or freezer bag as they are a big thicker) with them close together works. I've seen many people do this.

Use bubble wrap and what not.

The usual method of shipping is the small flat rate boxes at the USPS. Delivery confirmation #'s are also required from the NST, I believe, but almost everyone always gets them whenever they ship cigars. It's good practice and covers you on both ends.

[Whee]

So I'd like to get on the NST list pretty soon. But I'm wondering what are best ways to ship sticks. I see the cool 'slotted' ziploc style bags, but I'm having trouble locating them for sale.
There is a sticky in the new inmate area I believe about shipping. Can't link from phone, but a quick search should pull it up.
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[Bill86]

There is a sticky in the new inmate area I believe about shipping. Can't link from phone, but a quick search should pull it up.
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I got ya :tu

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3267

[Whee]

Thanks buddy! :)
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[MrClean]

Thanks guys, I had briefly read over that initially and forget where it was. I believe that answers most of questions.

[irratebass]

I got a stupid noob question, how do you quote several posts in one post? I see it all the time, but not sure how to do it. I can quote one person, but not 2 or more unless I open another session and copy and paste it into the original.....any of this make sense?

[longknocker]

I got a stupid noob question, how do you quote several posts in one post? I see it all the time, but not sure how to do it. I can quote one person, but not 2 or more unless I open another session and copy and paste it into the original.....any of this make sense?

Click The " Box At The Bottom Right Of Each Individual Post, Then Click Quote.:)

[longknocker]

I got a stupid noob question, how do you quote several posts in one post? I see it all the time, but not sure how to do it. I can quote one person, but not 2 or more unless I open another session and copy and paste it into the original.....any of this make sense?

Click The " Box At The Bottom Right Of The Individual Post, Then Click Quote.:)
You Got It, Mickey? :)

[Blak Smyth]

Click The " Box At The Bottom Right Of Each Individual Post, Then Click Quote.:)

Like Greg said:
It's the little button with the plus sign on it. It will change colors letting you know that it is selected, when you have all the ones you want selected, hit the quote button on the last post you want quoted.

[WittyUserName]

I got a stupid noob question, how do you quote several posts in one post? I see it all the time, but not sure how to do it. I can quote one person, but not 2 or more unless I open another session and copy and paste it into the original.....any of this make sense?

Click The " Box At The Bottom Right Of Each Individual Post, Then Click Quote.:)

You Got It, Mickey? :)

Like Greg said:
It's the little button with the plus sign on it. It will change colors letting you know that it is selected, when you have all the ones you want selected, hit the quote button on the last post you want quoted.

Damn that was easy. I have been doing tabs and copying and pasting everything, hahaha.


<--------NOOB

[Blak Smyth]

Damn that was easy. I have been doing tabs and copying and pasting everything, hahaha.


<--------NOOB

:r

[mkarnold1]

Quick question, I know they are cheap and relatively easy to replace, but do boveda humidipaks continue to perform well if they are "recharged" by adding a few drops of distilled water to the disk at the top of my herf-a-dor and pulling in the extra humidity?

[T.G]

Quick question, I know they are cheap and relatively easy to replace, but do boveda humidipaks continue to perform well if they are "recharged" by adding a few drops of distilled water to the disk at the top of my herf-a-dor and pulling in the extra humidity?

I have a few packs that I've been recharging and reusing for many years now, with no change in performance.

The better way to recharge the pack though is to place it in a tupperware container with a sponge that has been moistened with distilled water. Ensure that the pack and the sponge are not contacting each other and just seal the container up for a week or two.

[mkarnold1]

Thanks! I'll do that.

[irratebass]

Damn that was easy. I have been doing tabs and copying and pasting everything, hahaha.


<--------NOOB

Nope, still not getting it. I hit the quote button on this particular post and I scroll to the bottom and see the other posts, but no quote button on the bottom right.....I know this is super easy, but I am missing something here. I can copy and paste the post, but then there is no link to it....:sh

[Blak Smyth]

Nope, still not getting it. I hit the quote button on this particular post and I scroll to the bottom and see the other posts, but no quote button on the bottom right.....I know this is super easy, but I am missing something here. I can copy and paste the post, but then there is no link to it....:sh

Okay click the Multi-Quote button on the bottom right of the first post to quote (It's the little button with "+ on it, located to the right of the quote button). Nothing should happen except the button will change collor. Then click the normal quote button on the second post and they should both appear in your message box.

[irratebass]

Okay click the Multi-Quote button on the bottom right of the first post to quote (It's the little button with "+ on it, located to the right of the quote button). Nothing should happen except the button will change collor. Then click the normal quote button on the second post and they should both appear in your message box.

Nope, still not getting it. I hit the quote button on this particular post and I scroll to the bottom and see the other posts, but no quote button on the bottom right.....I know this is super easy, but I am missing something here. I can copy and paste the post, but then there is no link to it....:sh

Thanks! I'll do that.

I have a few packs that I've been recharging and reusing for many years now, with no change in performance.

The better way to recharge the pack though is to place it in a tupperware container with a sponge that has been moistened with distilled water. Ensure that the pack and the sponge are not contacting each other and just seal the container up for a week or two.

Testing

[Whee]

Nope, still not getting it. I hit the quote button on this particular post and I scroll to the bottom and see the other posts, but no quote button on the bottom right.....I know this is super easy, but I am missing something here. I can copy and paste the post, but then there is no link to it....:sh

To the right of the quote button is a button with quote marks and a plus. Click that for each post you want to quote in one post. When you get to the last post, click the quote button button and all posts you "clicked" should be quoted.


You did it!!

[irratebass]

HOLY CRAP!!!! It worked thanks.....I know this is like internet 101, but it was driving me crazy!!!

See on my screen I couldn't see that "+" it is just looks like quotations to me, but I got it now and cheers to you all :chr

[Blak Smyth]

What it should look like:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6152/6169817870_a9e53b9423_z.jpg

[WittyUserName]

Testing

To the right of the quote button is a button with quote marks and a plus. Click that for each post you want to quote in one post. When you get to the last post, click the quote button button and all posts you "clicked" should be quoted.


You did it!!

HOLY CRAP!!!! It worked thanks.....I know this is like internet 101, but it was driving me crazy!!!

See on my screen I couldn't see that "+" it is just looks like quotations to me, but I got it now and cheers to you all :chr

What it should look like:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6152/6169817870_a9e53b9423_z.jpg


I said Look Ma N hands!!

Thanks for the screen shots Shane!!

[irratebass]

:lr
Hey at least I had the GUTS to ask

[mkarnold1]

:lr
Hey at least I had the GUTS to ask

Thanks, I learn a lot reading this thread. You may think it's a silly question but there are a lot of folks out there like me that don't do forums much and are not well versed in this stuff. :2

[T.G]

Guys, by cluttering this thread up with unnecessary banter, you make it very difficult for those who come along after you with the same questions to find their answers. Please think of the next new smoker who is going to come along after you before you hit post.

EDIT: Mark, not directed at you - your post snuck in there while I was typing.

[WittyUserName]

Thanks, I learn a lot reading this thread. You may think it's a silly question but there are a lot of folks out there like me that don't do forums much and are not well versed in this stuff. :2

Ditto, honestly I was opening up all the quotes I wanted in another tab then copying and pasting them into one reply box. It was a pain in the butt. Thank for asking mark and then you to everybody who answered the call.

New smoker thought of with this post.

[icehog3]

Guys, by cluttering this thread up with unnecessary banter, you make it very difficult for those who come along after you with the same questions to find their answers. Please think of the next new smoker who is going to come along after you before you hit post.

EDIT: Mark, not directed at you - your post snuck in there while I was typing.

Yes. We have dozens of "banter" threads, and we have PMs. Please keep this thread for beginniner questions and answers. Thank you.

[icehog3]

FYI....this wasn't directed at the instructions being given for multi-quoting, that was all legitimate assistance. This was to address earlier back and forth that had nothing to do with the intent of this thread. Apologies to anyone who thought it was directed at people helping people. :)

[longknocker]

HOLY CRAP!!!! It worked thanks.....I know this is like internet 101, but it was driving me crazy!!!

See on my screen I couldn't see that "+" it is just looks like quotations to me, but I got it now and cheers to you all :chr

:banger :D Don't Feel Bad, Mickey, It Took "Two" Lengthy PM's From Sean & Mark-in-Ca To Have Me Posting Pictures In The Forum!:r

[T.G]

FYI....this wasn't directed at the instructions being given for multi-quoting, that was all legitimate assistance. This was to address earlier back and forth that had nothing to do with the intent of this thread. Apologies to anyone who thought it was directed at people helping people. :)

Right, nor did I mean it to sound as if my comment was directed at the "Thank you" posts.

[mkarnold1]

So, I post pics in some threads and they are tiny thumbnails. How do you post the cool big pics?

[WittyUserName]

So, I post pics in some threads and they are tiny thumbnails. How do you post the cool big pics?

You have to post them on a host site (Flikr, Photobucket) then copy the image link and past it in the thread using the "insert Image" button. You can also past the location in between [ I M G ] [ / I M G ] with no spaces.

[mkarnold1]

Would shutterfly work?

[WittyUserName]

Would shutterfly work?

The best thing to do would be to try. I assume any site that hosts pictures and allows you to get the URL would work.

[mkarnold1]

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1d702b3127ccefe7b79f05e9e00000030O01AatWzhk3Ysg e3nwY/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/

[mkarnold1]

Hey! It worked! There's a good pic of me pilfering Mattso3000's stash. Thanks a ton Adam.

[WittyUserName]

Hey! It worked! There's a good pic of me pilfering Mattso3000's stash. Thanks a ton Adam.

No Problem Bro :tu

[SteelCityBoy]

Ok...so I want to know more about the specific tastes of cigars and what, if anything you shoud drink when smoking them. I have heard a lot about paring of cigars with drinks but really don't know what goes well with what. I often drink good beer with my smokes but have tried to level off from that due to the disruption of my palate and the flavor experience of the cigar.

I am guessing that this question may have been posted before, but I was hoping someone would be out there that could guide me in the right direction so that I can get the full experience out of my smokes!

When I read descriptions of cigars I always try to taste what is being described, i.e. earthiness, peppery, mocha, etc...yet I often have a hard time making those distictions!

I know everyone palate is different, but I want to be able to make out the flavor profiles of my smokes as best as possible.

Thanks for any advice....

[Crownedone]

test test

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g447/crownedone55/9-24temp602.jpg?t=1317323301

[Mattso3000]

Ken, a couple thread links:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=49004&highlight=drink+smoking
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48029&highlight=drink+smoking

[CigarNut]

ok now i think i got it... thanks for the tread.Instead of spreadhing this test out over three posts, you could have edited and corrected your original post.

You have 30 minutes after posting to edit a post. The EDIT button is on the lower-right corner of the post right next to (on the left of) the QUOTE button.

[Crownedone]

I know everyone palate is different, but I want to be able to make out the flavor profiles of my smokes as best as possible.

Every new smoker will most likely ask this same question....I know with me it took time...and a lot of smokes. I have been smoking a little over a year or so now and I am still developing the palate for the various flavors. I imagine that you can spend a life time developing the palate to pick up the subtleties that you read about...some of those that brag about all the little flavors, well…. may just be full of crap, it’s your call. I do know that your palate over time will begin to pick up some of the flavors. I can still remember my first smoke that the strong taste of coco/chocolate came through, the guys at my local B&M thought I was nuts....just keep at it and you will get there

[Blak Smyth]

Ok...
Thanks for any advice....

Ken, a couple thread links:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=49004&highlight=drink+smoking
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48029&highlight=drink+smoking



Also:
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3986&highlight=pairings

[SteelCityBoy]

Thanks Matt! Looks like a ton of opitons that I can try....I just want the most out of each smoke. Thanks for the insight.

[SteelCityBoy]

Thanks Shane. I KNOW you have done your homework! Coffee seems to be your latest and greatest. You know what we need to try is a good cognac! A dark rich chewey smoke just sounds delicious with a cognac!

[Noodles]

When I read descriptions of cigars I always try to taste what is being described, i.e. earthiness, peppery, mocha, etc...yet I often have a hard time making those distictions!

I know everyone palate is different, but I want to be able to make out the flavor profiles of my smokes as best as possible.


Don't worry too much about what other people's experience with their cigars. A lot of factors affects the taste of a cigar.

Light the cigar and enjoy. Given time, you will be able to discern some or all of those taste.

[Blak Smyth]

Thanks Shane. I KNOW you have done your homework! Coffee seems to be your latest and greatest. You know what we need to try is a good cognac! A dark rich chewey smoke just sounds delicious with a cognac!

Honestly I have never had any kind of cognac, but I'm down to try it. Some people swear by it.

[SteelCityBoy]

Thanks for the advice Stephan. I have been smoking routinely for about a year now myself but am constantly trying to make out exactly what it is I am tasting. Well I guess just more smoking and time can help do the trick! Happy smoking to you!

[mkarnold1]

I just had this:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1ce25b3127ccefe1c15f7ce6300000030O01AatWzhk3Ysg e3nwY/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
happen to a cigar that I was thoroughly enjoying. Needless to say, it was frustrating to lose the smoke with the first third having been so promising. I am wondering if there is something that can be done to avoid this, or if I did something wrong to cause the split, or if this is just something that happens once in a while.

[Ismith75]

I just had this:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a1ce25b3127ccefe1c15f7ce6300000030O01AatWzhk3Ysg e3nwY/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/
happen to a cigar that I was thoroughly enjoying. Needless to say, it was frustrating to lose the smoke with the first third having been so promising. I am wondering if there is something that can be done to avoid this, or if I did something wrong to cause the split, or if this is just something that happens once in a while.

Humidity first and foremost...either too low or maybe a big swing. Cold weather also...don't know how cold it is right now in MN but I've had problems already with some cold nights in Chicago and its only October. Hope this helps! :tu

[mkarnold1]

Thanks Ian, it was a new delivery, maybe that had something to do with it. But it's not cold here right now, kind of an indian summer. It was probably 65 on my deck at 9:00PM.

[Ismith75]

Thanks Ian, it was a new delivery, maybe that had something to do with it. But it's not cold here right now, kind of an indian summer. It was probably 65 on my deck at 9:00PM.
Most likely the humidity if they were ROTT. Always a good idea to let them adjust to your own humi for a couple weeks...but I think we all know how much easier that is said than done! :r

[mkarnold1]

New question: How do you deal with the cold and the possibility of a split like this? Knowing I will be facing this issue for the next several months it would be good to have some ideas on how to lower the chances and finish more good smokes. My first idea would be to keep my humi in the fridge and lower the stogies to 40* so that the temp change is not so drastic taking them outside. Any suggestions?

[deadrise]

yea it happens try letting them rest and if that don't work try duck tape works for me taste a little funny tho

[DaBear]

New question: How do you deal with the cold and the possibility of a split like this? Knowing I will be facing this issue for the next several months it would be good to have some ideas on how to lower the chances and finish more good smokes. My first idea would be to keep my humi in the fridge and lower the stogies to 40* so that the temp change is not so drastic taking them outside. Any suggestions?

Let the stick sit out in open air for maybe an hour or two might do the trick. The humidity will at least regulate a little bit

[CigarNut]

The bigger the difference between the RH of your cigar and the RH of the ambient environment (e.g., outside air) the more likely that your wrapper will split. This is an even bigger problem for cigars with fragile (thin) wrappers (e.g., Connecticut).

If you know you are going to be smoking in a lower RH, then you should dry box a few cigars and have them ready. It can take several days (or more) for the RH of the cigars to drop.

[irratebass]

New question:

Can you put different flavored or infused cigars together or do I have to put each bundle or so into separate tupadors or humis?

[Blak Smyth]

New question:

Can you put different flavored or infused cigars together or do I have to put each bundle or so into separate tupadors or humis?

Honestly I wouldn't worry to much about putting them together.
I know a guy that has had infused in a humidor with non-infused for almost a year (on different shelves) and has not had any noticeable issues. I know everybody says not to and I personally wouldn't but the one person I know who has been doing this has had no issues.
I would imagine you should be fine, only one way to know for sure.
Besides if they mix you could end up with fruit punch:r

[DaBear]

New question:

Can you put different flavored or infused cigars together or do I have to put each bundle or so into separate tupadors or humis?

I don't believe it makes much to any difference as long as you're not mixing flavored/infused cigars with traditional cigars.

That said, I've never done it so I'm no expert on it, but I've never had someone complain at work that their infused cigars tasted very similar because they were placed next to each other in the humi.

[jjirons69]

Unless you want a mixture of flavors, segregate the infused from normal cigars. Probably best to use a cheap tupperdor with infused smokes. Also, probably best to keep each 'flavor' in a separate tupperdor to prevent mixing the flavors.

:2

[Lonely Raven]

New question:

Can you put different flavored or infused cigars together or do I have to put each bundle or so into separate tupadors or humis?


Unless you want a mixture of flavors, segregate the infused from normal cigars. Probably best to use a cheap tupperdor with infused smokes. Also, probably best to keep each 'flavor' in a separate tupperdor to prevent mixing the flavors.

:2

Having a crapton of infused, and some flavored, I can say for sure that having them in the same container with regular cigars does impart some flavor on the regulars...at least on initial light up. I guess some of the scent gets into the foot.

I've read that you'll get more scent/flavor transfer if the wrappers are touching (even on normal cigars - especially oily ones), and since most of the sweet flavor on Acids (for example) is in the wrapper, I certainly wouldn't want different flavors/infusions to touch regular cigars.

IMHO, anything cherry needs it's own box. That scent just hangs on everything. Yuk!

I mix my acids in the same box, but I'll keep my fiance's flavored at very least divided, if not in a different box if I have the space.

[irratebass]

Thanks guys, I have a bundle of Trader Jacks and was going to put them in a separate tupperware container, but was just wondering if I went and bought some Acids or Java or any other flavored or infused sticks if they would be ok together in the same container NOT in my humis with my other ones.....so I guess they will be ok. :tu

[DaBear]

Thanks guys, I have a bundle of Trader Jacks and was going to put them in a separate tupperware container, but was just wondering if I went and bought some Acids or Java or any other flavored or infused sticks if they would be ok together in the same container NOT in my humis with my other ones.....so I guess they will be ok. :tu

They should be fine, but leave them in their cello to minimize contact, thats where the most flavor transfer will end up happening.

[T.G]

FWIW, at the Drew Estates factory, there are three storage areas for completed cigars, one for all ACID products, one for all coffee based infusions, and finally, one for non-infused cigars. Each of the storage areas has sealed walls and independant ventelation so that no mingling of the aromas occurs.

Just something to think about before you mix loose Java and ACIDs in the same humidor/tupperware.

[irratebass]

They should be fine, but leave them in their cello to minimize contact, thats where the most flavor transfer will end up happening.

Well they came in bag...I am sure they are not in cellos, I haven't opened them yet (been in the freezer), but I could just stick them in a separate baggie I guess...here is a pic so you have an idea of what I am talking about.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/irratebass/Cigars/photobucket-1924-1317450574525.jpg

[Blak Smyth]

FWIW, at the Drew Estates factory, there are three storage areas for completed cigars, one for all ACID products, one for all coffee based infusions, and finally, one for non-infused cigars. Each of the storage areas has sealed walls and independant ventelation so that no mingling of the aromas occurs.

Just something to think about before you mix loose Java and ACIDs in the same humidor/tupperware.

:tu