Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!)

[MUNKY]

I have a locker at my b&m, but their selection isn't huge. So I buy what I can from them and everything else from online. Typically I will also buy accessories (cutters, lighters, bovedas, etc) from my b&m since they make more money on those items.

Excellent :sl

[Lockspur]

Excellent :sl

12" cube. And it's full. Thank you, please come again. :su :tf

[DirtRider500R]

Does keeping the cellophane wrapper on a cigar cause any difference in aging or humidity changes?

[pnoon]

Does keeping the cellophane wrapper on a cigar cause any difference in aging or humidity changes?

Not really. Cellophane is porous.

[RWhisenand]

is it normal to feel like an ass ordering online, as opposed to purchasing at a B&M?

they're no B&M's within 100 miles of my home, but one really awesome B&M near where i work, that i try to visit when i have a chance, which ain't often.

started to make a purchase at CI the other day, and really felt like an ass for doing it.

I order over 99% of my cigars online. Like you my closest B&M is 220 miles away, lucky for me it's Fumare, home of Illusione cigars. But I don't get there very often. Do not feel like an ass, it's your money, spend it as you wish.

[Outlaw God]

So how do you deal with the itchy throat cough from cigars?

I use Max Strength Mucinex that works for about 8 hrs

Although I've been only smoking 1- 4 cigars a day for less than 8 months I get nervous about the possible C word coming on in my throat.

I'm looking for a better answer then lay off the sticks :)
Thanks

[Outlaw God]

I tend to not go back to shops where customers or owners smoke in the walk-in humidor because of how it effects the other sticks and the humidification system.
Anyone else feel this way or am I off track?

[bobarian]

Considering that many if not most rollers smoke in the factories, I dont see how there are any long term negative effects. I dont personally smoke in walk ins but dont see a real problem. :2

[markem]

I'd be more worried about a shop where the employees favored chili for lunch, personally.

[sikk50]

:r

[cjhalbrooks]

It doesn't bother me. But i will never smoke in a walk-in. It is just a way to show that i respect the owners.

[Porch Dweller]

It doesn't bother me. But i will never smoke in a walk-in. It is just a way to show that i respect the owners.

:tpd:

[alfredo_buscatti]

I have some cigars that were not in the proper humidity for 3.5 weeks; since then they have been in proper humidity for 2 weeks. Approximately how long, total time (2 weeks + X amount of time) will it take in the proper humidity to return to optimum smokeability. If you would reply a month then that is the answer I seek and I would keep them in proper humidity for 2 more weeks before smoking them. Thanks!

[14holestogie]

Mike, you really don't have enough information to make a good evaluation. Were they too wet, too dry, and by how much? What does your hygrometer say now? What kind of humidity control are you using? And then once you have all that information, "optimum" smokeability is still subjective.

Don't sweat it that much and fire one up. If it works for you, then it's optimum.

[dijit]

Tim is pretty well right on target. Some of us like our sticks between 60 and 65% rh and some as high as 72% rh. I say if they have been in a balanced environment for 2 weeks with no issues then try one.

That being said I also tend to leave my smokes in the humi for at least 30 days before have one. This is just to give them a chance to balance out to my preferences and give the flavors a chance to start to blend a little more than what the manufacturer has deemed acceptable.

[alfredo_buscatti]

Thanks, Tim!

One of the reasons why I like this forum so much is that a n00b can get an answer fairly quickly. I come from the pipe world, and having spent a dozen years in it more or less exclusively, I know what I'm doing; but the cigar world, although there is overlap, is another realm entirely. In another thread I've been asking questions for about a month in the attempt to properly season a very cranky humidor and have had help all along the way. Go cigarasylum!

Geez, I thought there was a formula for rehydrating so that you could know before firing up a water-deprived cigar if it was properly humidified; but I see it's a lot more complex than that.

I think I'm going to give these cigars a month or two, probably two, before smoking them. Should be enough to enable that magic, if it is to exist, in smoking them, to work itself to be expressed. (That means that the cigar smokes very well.)

Thanks again! Mike

[pnoon]

I was thinking 4-8 weeks total. Better to go a few weeks longer than too soon.
:2

[SG-1]

I just smoked my first cigar today, it was pretty good. But I lit it with a lighter and charred the end you smoke too much. I knew I'd mess up so I only spent $8 on one. I'm sure my experience was probably relatively crap compared to someone who had a better cigar and handled it properly.

No one in my family smokes, so if I sound clueless - I am. Will I get addicted to these? I don't want to get cancer either. I'll only smoke them every once and a while. If I smoke a couple times a year, what risks would I be taking to my health? Negligible or just as much as someone who smokes often?

Shame smoking causes cancer. I enjoyed it

[RWhisenand]

I didn't get addicted, I don't worry about cancer from smoking cigars, it takes quite awhile to learn how to light up one correctly, well for me anyway:). You're not the only one in your family, just the first. Stick around, there is a lot of great info on smokes and method as well as friendly brothers and sisters willing to help a new guy out.

[DirtRider500R]

.... it takes quite awhile to learn how to light up one correctly, well for me anyway:)...

You're supposed to light them? :confused:

:r

[RWhisenand]

You're supposed to light them? :confused:

:r

:gary:l:l

[icehog3]

I just smoked my first cigar today, it was pretty good. But I lit it with a lighter and charred the end you smoke too much. I knew I'd mess up so I only spent $8 on one. I'm sure my experience was probably relatively crap compared to someone who had a better cigar and handled it properly.

No one in my family smokes, so if I sound clueless - I am. Will I get addicted to these? I don't want to get cancer either. I'll only smoke them every once and a while. If I smoke a couple times a year, what risks would I be taking to my health? Negligible or just as much as someone who smokes often?

Shame smoking causes cancer. I enjoyed it

Smoking cigars is meant to be relaxing. If one obsesses over cancer, it will outweigh the relaxation, so I would say cigars are probably not for someone like that.

Here is an interesting list of everyday things that some studies show cause cancer....might as well just throw in the towel right now....

http://www.thedailydust.co.uk/2009/02/19/20-strange-things-the-daily-mail-say-will-cause-cancer/

[Fredo456]

Smoking cigars is meant to be relaxing. If one obsesses over cancer, it will outweigh the relaxation, so I would say cigars are probably not for someone like that.

Here is an interesting list of everyday things that some studies show cause cancer....might as well just throw in the towel right now....

http://www.thedailydust.co.uk/2009/02/19/20-strange-things-the-daily-mail-say-will-cause-cancer/

Tobacco isn't on the list, so we're clear!

[SG-1]

Thanks for the replies, guys. I've been busy with college.

I know a lot of things cause cancer, but smoking does so orders of magnitude more. Although, some people never get it, but I don't want to risk anything.

Smoking a cigar will be something I do on rare occasion, I've made it a rule to keep it minimum once a month. It is quite enjoyable - maybe that way it will continue to be enjoyable since I won't be doing it very often.

[AdamJoshua]

I have to agree with Tom, you seem to worry too much about what might happen, I don't see how this can be relaxing and enjoyable to you.

[Dopey]

My brother, cigars are pure relaxation my man. Sit back and use that 1 or 2 hours and do nothing. Those moments are why we do it.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting addicted to it either. I personally only know 2 guys who might be addicted and that's because I've literally never seen them without a stick in their mouths.

I also wouldn't worry too much about cancer. To each his/her own, but people die of lung cancer every year without ever smoking...people die every year of liver cancer without ever drinking...I hear more positive stories about old time guys who had a stiff drink or 2 at night with a cigar and lived until they were a healthy 95 than I do about fitness loony tunes who eat leaves, drink mulch, gluten free yada yada, and exercise 25 hours a day and are always sick, look terrible, and surprisingly die younger that normal bad ass men do.

[Outlaw God]

My brother, cigars are pure relaxation my man. Sit back and use that 1 or 2 hours and do nothing. Those moments are why we do it.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting addicted to it either. I personally only know 2 guys who might be addicted and that's because I've literally never seen them without a stick in their mouths.

I also wouldn't worry too much about cancer. To each his/her own, but people die of lung cancer every year without ever smoking...people die every year of liver cancer without ever drinking...I hear more positive stories about old time guys who had a stiff drink or 2 at night with a cigar and lived until they were a healthy 95 than I do about fitness loony tunes who eat leaves, drink mulch, gluten free yada yada, and exercise 25 hours a day and are always sick, look terrible, and surprisingly die younger that normal bad ass men do.
I would add that George Burns live to 100 years and died of heart failure and never had any lung cancer and today Jan 20 he was born in 1896
http://pdxretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/george-burns-later-1.jpg

[funkyporcini]

I would add that George Burns live to 100 years and died of heart failure and never had any lung cancer and today Jan 20 he was born in 1896
http://pdxretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/george-burns-later-1.jpg

I knew there was a reason I smoked tonight after quite a while.

[Outlaw God]

I knew there was a reason I smoked tonight after quite a while.

His personal brand was surprisingly good

http://lovelypackage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/lovely-package-burns-cigars1.jpg

[AdamJoshua]

His cigar of choice though was the El Producto Queen, a perfecto-shaped cigar that Burns liked to call "my little lady."

[SG-1]

I have to agree with Tom, you seem to worry too much about what might happen, I don't see how this can be relaxing and enjoyable to you.
I'm a very particular person. I analyze everything, follow a specific diet and exercise routine. Maybe I'm a little obsessed with my health lol.

But I don't worry about things if there is a low risk, once a month won't hurt. I go hiking in the ozarks pretty often. I plan on going out tomorrow and enjoying the lake and a cigar. Not while hiking, obviously. I'll find a place to sit and chill.

[icehog3]

I follow a specific diet, work out every day, play hockey 4 nights a week.....and smoke 7-10 cigars a week. Doesn't have any effect on my fitness.

[Porch Dweller]

Rule #1: Don't sweat the small stuff.
Rule #2: It's almost all small stuff.

[pnoon]

I'm a very particular person. I analyze everything, follow a specific diet and exercise routine. Maybe I'm a little obsessed with my health lol.

But I don't worry about things if there is a low risk, once a month won't hurt. I go hiking in the ozarks pretty often. I plan on going out tomorrow and enjoying the lake and a cigar. Not while hiking, obviously. I'll find a place to sit and chill.

In an earlier post you claimed you are clueless. Now you say once a month won't hurt. Sounds to me like you are looking for permission or a blessing to indulge - that you've already rationalized any risk you may perceive.

:ss

[SG-1]

It is partly that and also I figure once a month = 12 times a year, average lifespan is 77, subtract my age 77-18 = 59 cigars give or take.

Over a life time that's negligible. I'd imagine the average person smokes 3-5 a week. That's 156-260 a year, which is more in one year than I'd have in my life.

That is, if I continue to only take one a month. Which this will be #2 for January.
Either way - I'm not worrying about it anymore lol

[kydsid]

We all justify our own actions. There is no need to justify yours to us or for us to justify ours to you, however please don't use bad math if you must try to justify something.

59 x 12 = 708

5 x 52 = 260

Apparently after 12 years as a cigar lover, I have experienced 4.406 times the lifetimes you will in cigars. :D

Relax and enjoy it for what it is. We are all headed to the same place. Some will arrive good looking, others will skid in sideways looking bad enough to gag the roto rooter man.

[SG-1]

Ah, missed that last bit haha.

Yes we are and life is uncertain anyway so why not enjoy what you can. Well - off to the lake, but first I need to stop by my local tobacco shop =)

[AdamJoshua]

We all justify our own actions. There is no need to justify yours to us or for us to justify ours to you, however please don't use bad math if you must try to justify something.

59 x 12 = 708

5 x 52 = 260

Apparently after 12 years as a cigar lover, I have experienced 4.406 times the lifetimes you will in cigars. :D

Relax and enjoy it for what it is. We are all headed to the same place. Some will arrive good looking, others will skid in sideways looking bad enough to gag the roto rooter man.


Infinity Enjoyment + Infinity Enjoyment

[pnoon]

It is partly that and also I figure once a month = 12 times a year, average lifespan is 77, subtract my age 77-18 = 59 cigars give or take.

Over a life time that's negligible. I'd imagine the average person smokes 3-5 a week. That's 156-260 a year, which is more in one year than I'd have in my life.

That is, if I continue to only take one a month. Which this will be #2 for January.
Either way - I'm not worrying about it anymore lol

Enjoy the lake. When you return, you should post an intro and tell us a bit about yourself - age, location, occupation, interests outside of cigars, etc. Give folks a chance to get to know you.

[icehog3]

By your math, I was dead 3 years ago. Oh well, carry on My Friends. :)

[CamoFlogged]

By your math, I was dead 3 years ago. Oh well, carry on My Friends. :)

So that explains the smell? :r

[icehog3]

So that explains the smell? :r

Petunias? No, that's just my regular essense, sweet and lovely.

[SHHO89]

When I buy a cigar in a plastic wrapper should I take it out of the plastic wrapper they come in before I put them in my humidor or does that make a difference?

[CamoFlogged]

When I buy a cigar in a plastic wrapper should I take it out of the plastic wrapper they come in before I put them in my humidor or does that make a difference?

Doesn't make a difference, it is your personal preference. It is actually not plastic but cellophane, which allows the cigar to "breath" or pass air. Some folks say your cigar will age faster when the cello is taken off. I keep it on just to protect the stick from damage when rummaging around my singles humi's. Some folks take them off right away. Totally up to you. Have fun.

Oh, and introduce yourself in the New Inmate intro area.

[Bankster]

Hello. My name is Josh. I am originally from Kansas City and I moved down here to the Dominican Republic about 6 months ago. My wife and I are moving back to the States in March and I wanted to get some advice from a few of you about some good cigars to bring back with me. Between the 2 of us we are able to bring back 200 non-Cuban cigars. We could invest some money in some nice cigars to bring home for resale. Is it tough to re-sale cigars..... or I suppose the better question would be, are there any brands of cigars that are more difficult to get back in the states. I have been on many tours of most of the major cigar companies since I have been here and I have made some good connections and I do not want to return empty handed and miss a good chance to bring some great cigars home for a lot less than I could buy them once I get home. Any advice is greatly appreciated!!!:2

[icehog3]

Josh, I'd suggest you bring back 200 cigars that you really like and can get for better prices than in the States or online.

Reselling cigars isn't tough if you have built a reputation where people trust you, or if you are willing to send the cigars prior to payment. Of course, having something "hard to find", or having better prices than can be had in the States is a factor, but trust (i.e., reputation) is probably the most important factor.

Be advised, one also has to meet reasonable time and participation elements before they can offer anything for sale on this website. There also isn't a lot of love here for people who join this site to sell cigars at a profit (excluding retailers)....just isn't the way things are done in this community.

Good luck with the move, hope you decide to stick around to get to know the good people of the Asylum.

[Gabe215]

Hey all, just wondering, freezing rain storm knocked my power out tues night, greater Philadelphia are has over 500,000 houses out, and I heard it could be as late as Sat or Sun before power is restored. I have not been at my house since yesterday morning and staying at my Fiancé's parents house. I could only assume my house is about 45-55 degrees and my humidors around 50-55 percent, I'm going to stop by and check on the house today but will my sticks be alright for a few days if they get immediate tlc when power is restored?

[kelmac07]

Gabe...cigars are more resilient than people give them credit for. They should be fine for a few days.

[stearns]

Gabe...cigars are more resilient than people give them credit for. They should be fine for a few days.

I agree with Mac's wise words. you probably have other things in the house to worry about before the cigars :tu

[Gabe215]

Thanks for the peace of mind, yea hopefully it's cold enough inside to keep most of my food safe!

[CigarNut]

If you do go to check on your place don't open up the humidor -- you will just let the moisture (humidity) out, allowing your cigars to dry out even more.

Just leave everything as is until the power has been back on long enough for the temps to come back to normal.

[Gabe215]

Thank you!

[Jimmy70]

what is the best whiskey to drink with a Monte Cristo? I would like to know, tnx

[AdamJoshua]

what is the best whiskey to drink with a Monte Cristo? I would like to know, tnx

I have never had a Monte Cristo, had some lovely pies made with Crisco and some with lard, again it's all preference.

To answer your question, which ever you prefer? I am sure you will get some excellent recommendations here, but I have always followed the simple rule of smoke what you enjoy and enjoy what you smoke, the same goes for drinking. Heck you don't wanna know from me, I'm not even from this part of town, I'm from the west side of Chicago.

[JohnnyFlake]

To answer your question, which ever you prefer? I am sure you will get some excellent recommendations here, but I have always followed the simple rule of smoke what you enjoy and enjoy what you smoke, the same goes for drinking. Heck you don't wanna know from me, I'm not even from this part of town, I'm from the west side of Chicago.

I agree 110%!

However, personally, as well as a few of my close friends, prefer Dark Aged Rums.

My personal favorites are Goslings Old Rum and/or Goslings Black Seal Rum. A second, less expensive favorite is The Kraken Black Spiced Rum.

http://www.goslingsrum.com/microsites/oldrum.php

http://www.goslingsrum.com/microsites/blackseal.php

http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx/Spirits/Rum/Kraken/Kraken-Black-Spiced-Rum-750ml/32547

[icehog3]

Drink Jameson 12 year, or drink nothing at all.

[WhiteMamba]

How long do you recommend letting a cigar sit in your humidor after first getting it? I've heard about people letting them season in their humidor for a little while. Also what is the benefit of letting a cigar age for a year or two?

[DirtRider500R]

3+ months for me. Though, some don't make it after the first week. Age lets the flavors mellow out, and also causes smoother taste/less harshness.

[TJarv]

How long do you recommend letting a cigar sit in your humidor after first getting it? I've heard about people letting them season in their humidor for a little while. Also what is the benefit of letting a cigar age for a year or two?

Some are 2+ years, some are lucky to make it through the front door at all

[pnoon]

How long do you recommend letting a cigar sit in your humidor after first getting it? I've heard about people letting them season in their humidor for a little while. Also what is the benefit of letting a cigar age for a year or two?
I let them acclimate to my humidor for 2-3 weeks.
:2
YMMV

[Dude Here]

How long do you recommend letting a cigar sit in your humidor after first getting it? I've heard about people letting them season in their humidor for a little while. Also what is the benefit of letting a cigar age for a year or two?

About a month for me. Most of the shops here keep the sticks a little more wet than what I prefer. Sometimes though, they don't survive the night.

[WhiteMamba]

What's your guys' opinion of punch cutters? I've never used one or really cared to and I haven't seen much conversation here about them. Are they as bad as I would assume they are or what?

[Remo]

What's your guys' opinion of punch cutters? I've never used one or really cared to and I haven't seen much conversation here about them. Are they as bad as I would assume they are or what?

I enjoy my punch, nice clean hole, no shrapnel.....they have there place, I don't like punching small rg cigars as they seem to get tarry.

[AdamJoshua]

I am fairly new into cigars myself and always used a straight cutter, even had a lighter with the little punch on it and never used it, that being said about 2 months ago I started going with a punch 90% of the time and I love it.

I enjoy my punch, nice clean hole, no shrapnel.....they have there place, I don't like punching small rg cigars as they seem to get tarry.

Never had that happen, thankfully, unless they are too small for your punch then you cut, but I've punched most of them that can be and *knock on wood* no tarry mess.

[CoffeeWaterBeer]

A punch can come in handy for certain vitolas. A great example would be the Berger Argenti Fatso line. It's a box pressed/wafe shape that would get split if cut with a snip without a careful hand.

[Simple1]

I also tend to use a punch on short filler cigars. It helps from getting small pieces of tobacco in your mouth.

[gravel]

Newb question:

Sorry if this has been asked before, I haven't read all of this thread yet.

I have been using my pipe lighter (Xikar Resource) to light my cigars. Is it better to use a torch lighter for cigars?

[kydsid]

Newb question:

Sorry if this has been asked before, I haven't read all of this thread yet.

I have been using my pipe lighter (Xikar Resource) to light my cigars. Is it better to use a torch lighter for cigars?

Soft flame or torch don't really matter outside of personal taste. The fuel matters though. A soft flame bic butane lighter works well. A zippo for instance that uses naptha which doesn't burn completely clean may taint the taste of a cigar. Potential adulterant of the cigar at lighting is also why you should wait until the sulfur end of a match burns off before lighting with a match.

[gravel]

Thank you. I use the same care in lighting practices with my pipe tobacco.

[WhiteMamba]

Thanks guys next cigar I think I will give a punch cutter a try.

[Dude Here]

Thanks guys next cigar I think I will give a punch cutter a try.

Have you tried a v cut yet? Sort of a hybrid between the punch and full cut. I like them.

[Simple1]

Thanks guys next cigar I think I will give a punch cutter a try.

Always an option is to find someone into firearms and sharpen a piece of spent brass to use as a punch. Options would be .223, .243, .270, or .308/30-06. Anyone who shoots should have something laying around.

[WhiteMamba]

Always an option is to find someone into firearms and sharpen a piece of spent brass to use as a punch. Options would be .223, .243, .270, or .308/30-06. Anyone who shoots should have something laying around.

I hunt with a 243 so I have plenty of those laying around but it would probably be a mess to try and sharpen it. I have a punch on the end of one of my lighters that should come in handy. If i get board over the summer or something though I may give sharpening a casing a try.

:tu

[WhiteMamba]

Have you tried a v cut yet? Sort of a hybrid between the punch and full cut. I like them.

No I don't have one so I haven't gotten the opportunity to try one. What is the benefit from a v cut that is different from the punch or full? :sh

[Simple1]

Very easy to sharpen. Just wrap a tapered punch or something like that in sandpaper and spin it around the inside of the neck a few times. If you have a reamer, it works even better, with just a few spins inside.

[Dude Here]

No I don't have one so I haven't gotten the opportunity to try one. What is the benefit from a v cut that is different from the punch or full? :sh

The cutter takes a nice wedge out of the cap of the cigar. The opening created is larger than the hole of a punch but still much smaller than a full cut. I like to use them on large ring cigars and those with notoriously loose draws. But really, they work well on any cigar that's not too small or pointed. I also like the fact that it keeps the rounded shape on the cap intact which, to me anyway, is a nice mouth feel. I can send you a few if you'd like. PM me if interested.

[WhiteMamba]

So what is the big deal with the Fuente Opus X? I have seen them referenced on here a few times and I checked them out on a few sites and they are super expensive. What is it that makes them so expensive and are they really that good?

:confused::sh

[Gabe215]

They are somewhat rare, certain stores get them more frequently then others. Some on here will say they are over rated and not worth the coin. I am lucky enough to live in an area where I see them all the time and Holt's has them and Anejo sharks at Fuente Mania for a VERY decent price point (a lot of places jack the prices up). I love Opus it is one of the few non-Cubans I smoke, their smaller ring gauge smokes being my favorites especially their Petite Coronas! But that is my personal opinion and everyone is entitled theirs, if you find one for $15 or less I say buy it and try it for yourself, otherwise regardless of the size you are overpaying!! (Oh and they get better and better with age)

[Dude Here]

They are somewhat rare, certain stores get them more frequently then others. Some on here will say they are over rated and not worth the coin. I am lucky enough to live in an area where I see them all the time and Holt's has them and Anejo sharks at Fuente Mania for a VERY decent price point (a lot of places jack the prices up). I love Opus it is one of the few non-Cubans I smoke, their smaller ring gauge smokes being my favorites especially their Petite Coronas! But that is my personal opinion and everyone is entitled theirs, if you find one for $15 or less I say buy it and try it for yourself, otherwise regardless of the size you are overpaying!! (Oh and they get better and better with age)

/\ all the info you need right there

[bobarian]

/\ all the info you need right there

Well, close. :sh Send and email to tampqasweethearts.com, they are the Factory store for Fuente. They will email you a list of HTF Fuentes including Anejo's and OpusX. You have to call or email them for the list as it changes daily. :2

[Porch Dweller]

They are somewhat rare, certain stores get them more frequently then others. Some on here will say they are over rated and not worth the coin. I am lucky enough to live in an area where I see them all the time and Holt's has them and Anejo sharks at Fuente Mania for a VERY decent price point (a lot of places jack the prices up). I love Opus it is one of the few non-Cubans I smoke, their smaller ring gauge smokes being my favorites especially their Petite Coronas! But that is my personal opinion and everyone is entitled theirs, if you find one for $15 or less I say buy it and try it for yourself, otherwise regardless of the size you are overpaying!! (Oh and they get better and better with age)

+1

Patience with an Opus X is rewarded. If you can, buy one and let it rest for a few years.

[WhiteMamba]

Thanks guys i will keep that in mind. Im not sure if i am ready for that kind of commitment just yet but maybe in the future. So far the most expensive cigars i have gotten are the Macanudo Vintage 2006. I got a fiver from the devil site for 25. I plan to smoke them at the end of the school year to celebrate with some friends before Vicarage (it is a one year internship so we will be apart for a year before we come back for our final year of seminary).

[Remo]

So, are you going to be a priest?

[WhiteMamba]

I'm lutheran so we are called pastors. Roman Catholics are the only ones who call their ministers priests. I can explain why that is if you would like but it would probably be best to just PM you.

[Remo]

I'm lutheran so we are called pastors. Roman Catholics are the only ones who call their ministers priests. I can explain why that is if you would like but it would probably be best to just PM you.

Gotcha, just didn't know which religion :tu

[WhiteMamba]

haha yeah fair enough. We get confused for priests a lot since we still wear clerical collars, but since we are Lutheran we can get married which confuses people when I am with my fiancé wearing one.

[Remo]

haha yeah fair enough. We get confused for priests a lot since we still wear clerical collars, but since we are Lutheran we can get married which confuses people when I am with my fiancé wearing one.

I am gonna feel bad about :sl a man of the cloth, but I will get over it :lr

[WhiteMamba]

haha well thats ok if you repent ;s I will forgive you :). Btw your grenade should arrive later today (its saturday already Eastern Time).

[AdamJoshua]

Mike you PM'ed me by accident, Michael seems like Mike is interested, or he just wanted to ask me about the Lutheran faith...and I doubt that. :)

[WhiteMamba]

Mike you PM'ed me by accident, Michael seems like Mike is interested, or he just wanted to ask me about the Lutheran faith...and I doubt that. :)

:r thanks Adam I'll PM him. I didn't wanna post too much religious stuff here cause I don't want to break the rules :rlz not intentionally trying to convert people just explaining what I am doing with my life.

[WhiteMamba]

So I know that different cigars have different levels of nicotine but how can you tell which have more and which have less?

Sorry for all the questions but I figure I'm new and that's what this thread is for.

[357]

So I know that different cigars have different levels of nicotine but how can you tell which have more and which have less?

Sorry for all the questions but I figure I'm new and that's what this thread is for.

Mostly just by experience. Try them out and see, or talk to friends who have smoked them. Just remember each cigar and it's NIC will affect each smoker differently.

[icehog3]

about 2 months ago I started going with a punch 90% of the time and I love it.





Same here....too funny. :)

[WhiteMamba]

Used a punch on three cigars over the weekend and it worked great. Smoked a Rocky Patel Decade and a RP vintage 99 on Friday and a RyJ Reserva Real on Saturday. Sunday is the day of rest :tu

[Remo]

Same here....too funny. :)

Bromance!!

[icehog3]

Bromance!!

....and? :lr

[WhiteMamba]

So last week Steve (Dude Here) offered to send me a Vcut cutter since I was asking about different cutters. Being a nube I didn't think much about it until I got the package today. When I opened my mailbox a hand reached out of it and smacked me. The guys at the mail room were shocked. Then the hand gave me this.

[WhiteMamba]

Thanks a lot Steve you really know how to smack a guy into the fold. :sl

[Remo]

So last week Steve (Dude Here) offered to send me a Vcut cutter since I was asking about different cutters. Being a nube I didn't think much about it until I got the package today. When I opened my mailbox a hand reached out of it and smacked me. The guys at the mail room were shocked. Then the hand gave me this.

This should get posted in the bombs section :tu

[Remo]

....and? :lr

That's all :r

[WhiteMamba]

This should get posted in the bombs section :tu

Didn't think about that. Figured here was were it was discussed but I can not see the error my way and I will go and post it there also. Thanks for the lesson. :D

[gravel]

Some questions for ya'll:

1. I currently use matches or a pipe lighter to light my cigars. These work great in the garage, but less than stellar in the great outdoors. What lighters do you recommend and what should I look for in a butane lighter?

2. This one might be better as it's own thread. What are the origins of the groups I see around here? (Zombies, Mafia, others?)

[bobarian]

Some questions for ya'll:

1. I currently use matches or a pipe lighter to light my cigars. These work great in the garage, but less than stellar in the great outdoors. What lighters do you recommend and what should I look for in a butane lighter?


I've been using these lighters for years. Under $3 delivered. http://www.dx.com/p/compact-1300-c-butane-jet-lighter-4179#.UzTdWqKROSo

[Remo]

Some questions for ya'll:

1. I currently use matches or a pipe lighter to light my cigars. These work great in the garage, but less than stellar in the great outdoors. What lighters do you recommend and what should I look for in a butane lighter?

2. This one might be better as it's own thread. What are the origins of the groups I see around here? (Zombies, Mafia, others?)

You can get Ronson Jetlite for under $5.

They are cigar groups, usually from the same area…Lone Star Mafia (Texas) Zombies are from everywhere, SOB (Southern Ontario Bombers) FCC (Florida Cigar Crew) VCM (Virginia Cigar Militia) Etc...

[Lockspur]

You can get Ronson Jetlite for under $5.



$3.47 at Wally World.

[Gabe215]

+1 on Ronson Letlite, I have 2, one of which I've had for almost 2 1/2 years and have never had a problem with!

[WhiteMamba]

This has been bothering me for a while and I have looked all over trying to figure out the answer. What do the little O's represent under the amount of times you have traded?

[T.G]

This has been bothering me for a while and I have looked all over trying to figure out the answer. What do the little O's represent under the amount of times you have traded?

"Smoke rings" they are essentially a bar graph of what the system calls reputation points. You can give +/- reputation on someone's post by clicking on the picture of the scale (to the left of the report post icon). When you get enough positive points, you get another ring. You can also disable the display of rep points from your user options, when this is done, you'll see a black square there rather than the rings.

They really don't mean anything. Anyone can give +/- rep on any post for any reason, so in reality, it's just a way of private messaging for a specific post.

You can see your rep points by clicking on the "User CP" link in the top bar.

I just "bumped" (gave positive rep) to your post so that can see what I'm talking about when you look in your CP.

[icehog3]

I've been using these lighters for years. Under $3 delivered. http://www.dx.com/p/compact-1300-c-butane-jet-lighter-4179#.UzTdWqKROSo

+1 for these lighters, I've personally had much better luck with them than I have with the Ronsons. :2 ;s

[Dude Here]

Some questions for ya'll:

1. I currently use matches or a pipe lighter to light my cigars. These work great in the garage, but less than stellar in the great outdoors. What lighters do you recommend and what should I look for in a butane lighter?

2. This one might be better as it's own thread. What are the origins of the groups I see around here? (Zombies, Mafia, others?)

Haven't seen anyone mention them yet but, the Jetline super torch has been working well for me. Triple torch power, large visible fuel tank and it lights up everytime. A little pricier than the Ronsons but I think it's been worth it.

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/lighters/69186/jetline-super-torch/

[AdamJoshua]

+1 for these lighters, I've personally had much better luck with them than I have with the Ronsons. :2 ;s

+2 got one from my awesome secret santa, have been using it non-stop ever since, love this lighter.

[Remo]

+2 got one from my awesome secret santa, have been using it non-stop ever since, love this lighter.

Non stop? That is a great lighter :r

[357]

Non stop? That is a great lighter :r

You should see the size of that external butane tank. It's like a 55 gallon drum with backpack straps.

[WhiteMamba]

"Smoke rings" they are essentially a bar graph of what the system calls reputation points. You can give +/- reputation on someone's post by clicking on the picture of the scale (to the left of the report post icon). When you get enough positive points, you get another ring. You can also disable the display of rep points from your user options, when this is done, you'll see a black square there rather than the rings.

They really don't mean anything. Anyone can give +/- rep on any post for any reason, so in reality, it's just a way of private messaging for a specific post.

You can see your rep points by clicking on the "User CP" link in the top bar.

I just "bumped" (gave positive rep) to your post so that can see what I'm talking about when you look in your CP.

Thanks Adam I got it now. I was looking all over trying to figure it out.

[WhiteMamba]

Heres a question for you guys. What is the etiquette for making returns on cigars ordered online for problems like wrapper defects like cracks and stuff like that. Do you send it back ever time or only if its real bad or just live with it? I have sent a few back but I'm not sure if its normal or I'm just being picky. TIA

[MrClean]

Depends on the retailer, most will send replacements if you call. And many don't require that you return the damaged ones. I honestly haven't had issues with any online orders, the occasional wrong sticks sent but never had any damaged, might just be lucky. :2

[stevef2005]

Some questions for ya'll:

1. I currently use matches or a pipe lighter to light my cigars. These work great in the garage, but less than stellar in the great outdoors. What lighters do you recommend and what should I look for in a butane lighter?

2. This one might be better as it's own thread. What are the origins of the groups I see around here? (Zombies, Mafia, others?)


Another option, and the one I use, it the Typhoon Triple flame. I picked mine up on Amazon about 9 months ago. I have had not issues with it.

ttp://www.amazon.com/Prestige-Import-Group-Typhoon-Lighter/dp/B003V0OSPO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1396150579&sr=8-3&keywords=Butane+Torch+lighter (http://www.amazon.com/Prestige-Import-Group-Typhoon-Lighter/dp/B003V0OSPO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1396150579&sr=8-3&keywords=Butane+Torch+lighter)

[stevef2005]

Heres a question for you guys. What is the etiquette for making returns on cigars ordered online for problems like wrapper defects like cracks and stuff like that. Do you send it back ever time or only if its real bad or just live with it? I have sent a few back but I'm not sure if its normal or I'm just being picky. TIA


Maybe it is me but if you are unsatisfied with the product you received always make contact with the retailer. I would be willing to bet that ALOT of larger retailers will atleast try and rectify the situation as best they can. Then again if you are not satisfied with the retailer just don't use them again.

I personally though have not had any issues so far with an online retailers messing up an order or sending damaged product. Granted I only have 10 or so orders under my belt as I am still figuring out what I really like so I visit a few B&Ms for a lot of my sticks.

[WhiteMamba]

Ok guys you have been great at answering questions. Here is on I have about a friend I have who I Am trying to get started smoking. Every time he smokes he gets sick (vomiting). Do you guys have any cigars you would recommend for a beginner that would be easy on his stomach?

[pnoon]

Ok guys you have been great at answering questions. Here is on I have about a friend I have who I Am trying to get started smoking. Every time he smokes he gets sick (vomiting). Do you guys have any cigars you would recommend for a beginner that would be easy on his stomach?

Is he inhaling?

[WhiteMamba]

No he seems to be doing everything right. I gave him a 5 Vegas torpedo to smoke tonight thinking it would be pretty mellow for him but he still blew chunks

[Remo]

Ok guys you have been great at answering questions. Here is on I have about a friend I have who I Am trying to get started smoking. Every time he smokes he gets sick (vomiting). Do you guys have any cigars you would recommend for a beginner that would be easy on his stomach?

Too strong of cigars? Too much vitamin N? If he smokes mild cigars and still vomits either he in inhaling as Peter mentioned or he is just not cut out for cigars...they are not for everyone.

[WhiteMamba]

Well he says he isn't inhaling what mild cigars do you guys recommend? He likes smoking and wants to do it he just doesn't enjoy the after effect.

[Mattso3000]

No he seems to be doing everything right. I gave him a 5 Vegas torpedo to smoke tonight thinking it would be pretty mellow for him but he still blew chunks

Maybe have him start with something smaller like a petite corona until he can handle that easier. Sugar also helps settle the stomach while smoking. Try drinking a cream soda or root beer (they seem to impact the flavor of a cigar less for me than other sodas) and maybe keep a few cookies or small candy bars on hand to munch on.

[Remo]

Well he says he isn't inhaling what mild cigars do you guys recommend? He likes smoking and wants to do it he just doesn't enjoy the after effect.

14524

Maybe?

[Remo]

Maybe have him start with something smaller like a petite corona until he can handle that easier. Sugar also helps settle the stomach while smoking. Try drinking a cream soda or root beer (they seem to impact the flavor of a cigar less for me than other sodas) and maybe keep a few cookies or small candy bars on hand to munch on.

Good advice :tu

[AdamJoshua]

Maybe he's allergic, or there is some other reason he get's sick, maybe you shouldn't be so worried about getting him smoking cigars.

[kydsid]

Well he says he isn't inhaling what mild cigars do you guys recommend? He likes smoking and wants to do it he just doesn't enjoy the after effect.

Is he diabetic? The already mentioned use of drinking a sugary drink or candy bar is because nicotine reacts with your blood sugar levels.

[Remo]

Maybe he's allergic, or there is some other reason he get's sick, maybe you shouldn't be so worried about getting him smoking cigars.


+1

[WhiteMamba]

Thanks guys. Jason, he is not diabetic and Adam, I'm not forcing him or anything he wants to smoke. He usually has tried eating sugary stuff after smoking maybe having sugar while smoking will help. If all else fails he will have to try Mike's recommendation although I'm not too sure how they would burn :r:r

[icehog3]

Every time he smokes he gets sick (vomiting).

How many times has this happened? If it happened two or three times in a row to one of my friends, I would suggest he never smoke cigars again.

[WhiteMamba]

Yeah Tom it's happened twice and he is thinking about calling it quits. I don't blame him. It's not for everyone but he can still chill and enjoy second hand. Just thought I would ask for some advice here before he throws in the towel.

[icehog3]

Gotcha, Michael.....like a couple guys have implied, maybe cigars just ain't for him....but he gets an "A" for effort so far. ;)

[Flynnster]

Does he smoke anything else? There is a chance he is actually allergic to tobacco. I know a girl like that.

[WhiteMamba]

He smoked a back woods and was fine. I'm not sure maybe there is just something about cigars that doesn't agree with him.

[galaga]

Backwoods do contain tobacco..... You might try a panatella or a corona as some have suggested and have him slow down if he is smoking too quickly. You might also teach him how to purge his cigars every so often.

[Porch Dweller]

Is he smoking on an empty stomach?

[WhiteMamba]

No I don't believe so.

[stevef2005]

Is he smoking on an empty stomach?

Ya. I made that mistake tonight. Feeling a bit quezy now....I know better too. :sl

[WhiteMamba]

So what do I have to do to qualify for the private threads and what not. I've been looking but so far haven't had any luck :sh

[pnoon]

So what do I have to do to qualify for the private threads and what not. I've been looking but so far haven't had any luck :sh

What private threads?

[WhiteMamba]

Like the troop auction thread

[pnoon]

Like the troop auction thread

Access is automatically granted after some time and participation. We deliberately don't publish the criteria to prevent folks from trying to circumvent the requirements.

You should have access in time for the next auction.

[WhiteMamba]

Also when I posted the ash tray thing you posted that I wasn't allowed yet or something like that. Just curious when I "level up" haha

[WhiteMamba]

Ok so just hang tight and it will happen eventually?

[bobarian]

Yes. With time and participation, doors will open. :tu

[WhiteMamba]

Ok I can dig it :banger

[CdnStogie]

So - is it possible to overfill a humidor? When I bought this I was told you can put in about 40 cigars, definitely have way more than that in it...

http://s27.postimg.org/5s1bjiren/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5s1bjiren/)

http://s27.postimg.org/6f0891oan/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6f0891oan/)

[Zanaspus]

So - is it possible to overfill a humidor? When I bought this I was told you can put in about 40 cigars, definitely have way more than that in it...

http://s27.postimg.org/5s1bjiren/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5s1bjiren/)

http://s27.postimg.org/6f0891oan/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6f0891oan/)

As long as there's no crushing, no. Tetris is a popular pastime of many here.

[icehog3]

46% humidity... Is that your usual RH?

[kelmac07]

So - is it possible to overfill a humidor? When I bought this I was told you can put in about 40 cigars, definitely have way more than that in it...

The answer is yes. You want some room for a little air flow. May be why that RH is reading 46%. :2

[bobarian]

The answer is yes. You want some room for a little air flow. May be why that RH is reading 46%. :2

I respectfully disagree. Cigars in full boxes will store just fine, I dont see any difference when they are placed in a humidor. I think there may be other reasons why his Rh is reading so low. Possibly a leak or unseasoned humidor. :2

[kelmac07]

I respectfully disagree. Cigars in full boxes will store just fine, I dont see any difference when they are placed in a humidor. I think there may be other reasons why his Rh is reading so low. Possibly a leak or unseasoned humidor. :2

Good point about the cigar boxes Bob. Scott (Shilala) taught me long ago to not let my sticks touch the back of my vinos (his exact words were, "it'll wreck them") and I've stuck that that train of thought ever since. Has worked wonderfully for me.

[CdnStogie]

The reason the humidity is so low is because I just finished stocking it up and rearranging.

[WhiteMamba]

The reason the humidity is so low is because I just finished stocking it up and rearranging.

:r :r :r I love how everyone was jumping to conclusions.

[CdnStogie]

:r :r :r I love how everyone was jumping to conclusions.

Haha

I was thinking the same thing

[icehog3]

:r :r :r I love how everyone was jumping to conclusions.

How were people "jumping to conclusions"? I just asked if 46% was his usual RH. :rolleyes:

[WhiteMamba]

No not you Tom, but Mac and Bobarian were already trouble shooting about why it was so low which is great how everyone here cares about each other and the well being of their cigars. They just didn't think of the obvious answer IMHO

[WhiteMamba]

Also the first pic is of the humidor open so logically he snapped a pic of it open then closed it and snapped another pic. Just saying :2

[T.G]

Also the first pic is of the humidor open so logically he snapped a pic of it open then closed it and snapped another pic. Just saying :2

Check out the big brain on Brad!


You could learn a lot from Bob and Mac. Just saying.

[WhiteMamba]

Check out the big brain on Brad!


You could learn a lot from Bob and Mac. Just saying.

Who's Brad? and if that was directed at me I agree. I can learn a lot from Bob and Mac but that don't mean I can't give them a hard time about stuff.

[pnoon]

Enough of the banter, fellas. This thread is meant for Q&A.

:2

[CdnStogie]

Check out the big brain on Brad!


You could learn a lot from Bob and Mac. Just saying.



"Your a smart motha *****'er, that's right the metric system" - One of my favourite movies of all time... hehehe... (Pulp Fiction)


Anyways - Prior to opening it, both internal digi and built in humi were reading 65%. (I have the 65% beads)

I just went through (see some of my other posts) re-seasoning, and also taping the rim of my humidor to fix the seal leak... I believe I ha(ve)(d) it fixed.

This was only 2 days ago when I completed my re-seasoning, my new sticks came in the mail yesterday and I then filled er up as shown above.

I checked last night before going to bed and the humidity rose back up to 60% on the built in and 63% on the Xikar.

This morning it was 62% on the Xikar and 61% on the built in.

I am assuming I am good for now? I am watching over it on a daily basis to ensure that it did infact get properly seasoned and the numbers stay above 60%.

What is your opinion? New smokes could have been dry and are holding down the RH? Should I take them out and just put them in a tupperdor? During the whole reseasoning, seal issues I had them in a tupperdor and that thing is damn well fool proof.... If I keep having issues with the seal on this I am going to throw the humidor in the garbage, cry myself to sleep the next night and go and buy a coolerdor....

....At least I can then tell the girlfriend why I need to buy more cigars this way :r:r

[T.G]

"Your a smart motha *****'er, that's right the metric system" - One of my favourite movies of all time... hehehe... (Pulp Fiction)


Anyways - Prior to opening it, both internal digi and built in humi were reading 65%. (I have the 65% beads)

I just went through (see some of my other posts) re-seasoning, and also taping the rim of my humidor to fix the seal leak... I believe I ha(ve)(d) it fixed.

This was only 2 days ago when I completed my re-seasoning, my new sticks came in the mail yesterday and I then filled er up as shown above.

I checked last night before going to bed and the humidity rose back up to 60% on the built in and 63% on the Xikar.

This morning it was 62% on the Xikar and 61% on the built in.

I am assuming I am good for now? I am watching over it on a daily basis to ensure that it did infact get properly seasoned and the numbers stay above 60%.

What is your opinion? New smokes could have been dry and are holding down the RH? Should I take them out and just put them in a tupperdor? During the whole reseasoning, seal issues I had them in a tupperdor and that thing is damn well fool proof.... If I keep having issues with the seal on this I am going to throw the humidor in the garbage, cry myself to sleep the next night and go and buy a coolerdor....

....At least I can then tell the girlfriend why I need to buy more cigars this way :r:r

60-65% ish is fine, IMO.

It can take time for the humidity in a humidor to adjust after adding/removing large quantities of cigars. Also, celophaned cigars tend to acclimate more slowly, so I wouldn't obsess over it.

A common point of leakage on glass top humidors is the molding that holds the glass in place. A lot of them are just nailed in place and aren't sealed.

[WhiteMamba]

Jeff I recommend just going ahead and getting yourself a coolidor and then you can hold way more sticks. Trust me it will fill up fast :2

[CigarNut]

60-65% ish is fine, IMO.

It can take time for the humidity in a humidor to adjust after adding/removing large quantities of cigars. Also, celophaned cigars tend to acclimate more slowly, so I wouldn't obsess over it.

A common point of leakage on glass top humidors is the molding that holds the glass in place. A lot of them are just nailed in place and aren't sealed.

Just to underscore what Adam said -- it can take weeks for a humidor to settle down and reach an equilibrium after any changes.

[WhiteMamba]

I had a great tat series p tonight but as I was taking off the band there was some glue stuck to the wrapper and it tore a little. Any advice on how to remove the band if there is excess glue?

[CigarNut]

Sometimes smoking the cigar for a bit will help -- the heat can loosen the glue. If the wrapper does tear you can always touch it up with a little pectin (the glue often used in manufacturing cigars). You can buy pectin from many sources, including many cigar retailers, BOTLs, etc. You can also make your own, if you are so inclined.

[Pobreng Kapre]

Hi! :salute: Newbie here. I have been smoking cigars for almost 3 months now. Unfortunately, i don't have that many choices here. Specially the cheap ones. Right now, i'm only smoking Quorums. I tried the Partagas No. 4 once and it was really good. :dr

[CigarNut]

Pick up some samplers from one (or more) of the online retailers -- will allow you to try a wide variety of cigars for a reasonable price.

[WhiteMamba]

So I have some cigars that are in tubes do they have to be in a humidor or are they good on their own?

[massphatness]

They should be in your humidor. The tube isn't a long term humidification device.

[TXSmokey]

Hi! :salute: Newbie here. I have been smoking cigars for almost 3 months now. Unfortunately, i don't have that many choices here. Specially the cheap ones. Right now, i'm only smoking Quorums. I tried the Partagas No. 4 once and it was really good. :dr

try the newbie sampler trade thing on here

[TXSmokey]

[QUOTE=CdnStogie;1953397]So - is it possible to overfill a humidor? When I bought this I was told you can put in about 40 cigars, definitely have way more than that in it...

have you calibrated the hygrometers?

[atrin90]

Hello To everyone,, im new to this forum and cigars in general ,, i recently bought a cigar which the shopkeeper put it in a metal tube for me , the tube didnt have those cedar sleeves, i just put it in a kind of ziplock bag to smoke it the day after , but when i startet to light the cigar it felt like it weighed much less and it didnt taste good like usual (ramon allones specially selected) it was like dry and started tunneling, i dont have any humidor but sticks were usually allright for a day or too ,, im wondering what might have caused it to dry so fast ? could it be the metal tube without cedar sleeve?? :confused:

[baust55]

I bought a dozen small 62% humidity packs on amazon I put one in a ziplock with cigars not in humidor .

AUSTIN

[bobarian]

Hello To everyone,, im new to this forum and cigars in general ,, i recently bought a cigar which the shopkeeper put it in a metal tube for me , the tube didnt have those cedar sleeves, i just put it in a kind of ziplock bag to smoke it the day after , but when i startet to light the cigar it felt like it weighed much less and it didnt taste good like usual (ramon allones specially selected) it was like dry and started tunneling, i dont have any humidor but sticks were usually allright for a day or too ,, im wondering what might have caused it to dry so fast ? could it be the metal tube without cedar sleeve?? :confused:

Cedar should not have made a difference if you smoked it within a day or two. Hopefully this was a one-off situation. Sorry about the RASS. :2

[mk05]

It rather sounds like it was humid when and where you were smoking. When a cigar tunnels, it is a sign of either:
- non-corresponding age of tripa and capote
- high ambient humidity relative to the cigar that makes the capa and capote not burn as fast as the inner tripa that is not as exposed

Of course, the cigar could have been dry coming into the shop but looked moist at the shop due to humidification element, and dried out immediately and into drier equilibrium once out of the humidor.

[atrin90]

thanks a lot , appreciate the replys:D im eager to learn about cigars.where I live is very Dry , about 12% humidity, so if its not because of the metal tube then there , the cigar felt so light-weight and was burning relatively fast , producing too much smoke and tasted like those machine-made cheap cigars, the band was loose as well ,is that due to dryness? maybe im just unlucky lol cause i bought 2 h uppman sir winstons from the same shop and they were both plugged like hell ! couldnt draw from it at all , could there be something wrong with the way they store their cigars?

[icehog3]

It certainly could be the result of improper storage at the shop you buy them at.

[mk05]

Certainly could be storage, certainly could be the atmosphere.

[MOGator2000]

So do a lot of online reading of reviews and news. Often see leaf described as Ecuadorian Habano but sometimes mentioned as Havana. Are Habano leaf and Havana leaf the same?

[68TriShield]

So do a lot of online reading of reviews and news. Often see leaf described as Ecuadorian Habano but sometimes mentioned as Havana. Are Habano leaf and Havana leaf the same?

Yes, if it's in the context I am thinking.

[icehog3]

So do a lot of online reading of reviews and news. Often see leaf described as Ecuadorian Habano but sometimes mentioned as Havana. Are Habano leaf and Havana leaf the same?

Just be aware that "Ecuadorian Habano" may be grown using Cuban seed, but it is not Cuban tobacco.

[TigersFan27]

Are we allowed to offer up cigars for trade or sale? Since I am new I would ship first. I am curious what section of the forum this would apply to? Reason being is when I first got into the hobby I bought some boxes of cigars and have many multiples. I am trying to try other more popular blends.

[bobarian]

Are we allowed to offer up cigars for trade or sale? Since I am new I would ship first. I am curious what section of the forum this would apply to? Reason being is when I first got into the hobby I bought some boxes of cigars and have many multiples. I am trying to try other more popular blends.

With time and participation doors will open. Until then there is the Newbie Sampler Trade to get you started. :tu

[TigersFan27]

Thanks for the info.

[atrin90]

Hi , sometimes when i smoke a cigar, i see some sparkling little dots on the cigar and also on my hands , i was curious if its from the band or cigar itself ? , thanks

[68TriShield]

Hi , sometimes when i smoke a cigar, i see some sparkling little dots on the cigar and also on my hands , i was curious if its from the band or cigar itself ? , thanks

It's probably the oils from the tobacco.

[Fredo456]

Hi , sometimes when i smoke a cigar, i see some sparkling little dots on the cigar and also on my hands , i was curious if its from the band or cigar itself ? , thanks

Some bands do lose their gold paint on contact.

[JohnnyFlake]

Some bands do lose their gold paint on contact.

What???

[Fredo456]

What???

I remembered this from a cigar I tried in my noobie days, but I can't remember what it was.

So I went to my stash, and I thought the Casa Magna Colorado seemed like a good one to try: the gold paint does comme off, in the form of little sparkling dots, as in the OP's question.

Not all gold paints do that, but it seems that the "powdery" type does come off the band a little.

[JohnnyFlake]

I remembered this from a cigar I tried in my noobie days, but I can't remember what it was.

So I went to my stash, and I thought the Casa Magna Colorado seemed like a good one to try: the gold paint does comme off, in the form of little sparkling dots, as in the OP's question.

Not all gold paints do that, but it seems that the "powdery" type does come off the band a little.

Okay, now I understand!

[Byaah]

When I go into a B&M, what things should I arm myself with before I go in and make a purchase? I am not trying to get at I think they may try to pull a fast one on me, I just want to have as much realistic info I can have going in!

Anything from the most simple tips and tricks to well I don't even know (or I would not be asking lol!)

As for cigars I really don't know to much so what you can teach me would be great!

Or should this even be a worry?

[Dude Here]

I would suggest going online and reading some reviews of the shop you're thinking of visiting. See what other customers have to say about the place, employees and condition of the cigars.

If it's a reputable shop then you shouldn't have to worry too much about the employees trying to upsell you on cigars. Don't be afraid to ask questions and let them know that you're new to all this. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to help you out, after all, we all had to start somewhere in this hobby.

While you're browsing the selection of cigars keep an eye out for a hygrometer and take a look at the humidity reading. Granted, room sized humidors will have variances in humidity from one section to another, but if it's reading in the 40-50% range that's usually not a good sign. Also, check out the condition of the cigars. Are the shelves neatly arranged? Are the cigars damaged or just strewn about in their boxes? Is the place clean? I've walked out of B&M's before just based on how messy and disorganized their humidor was. If the shop doesn't care about simple things like neat presentation then they probably don't care too much about their cigars either.

Hope this helps!

[Byaah]

Hope this helps!


Solid info, simple approach, thank you!

[cigarmarine]

Hello CIA family new to the sight. I've been enjoying cigars for a while now, but I'm looking to expand my knowledge,expertise, and taste on the subject. So if there anyone who has the patience to deal with a newbie I'm ready to soak up all of the knowledge out there

[WhiteMamba]

Hello CIA family new to the sight. I've been enjoying cigars for a while now, but I'm looking to expand my knowledge,expertise, and taste on the subject. So if there anyone who has the patience to deal with a newbie I'm ready to soak up all of the knowledge out there

Welcome to the asylum. Go try the newbie sampler trade. It will broaden your cigar horizons.

[stevef2005]

Hello CIA family new to the sight. I've been enjoying cigars for a while now, but I'm looking to expand my knowledge,expertise, and taste on the subject. So if there anyone who has the patience to deal with a newbie I'm ready to soak up all of the knowledge out there

Feel free to ask just about any question on here as well. Most folks are more than willing to share knowledge. Welcome to the mad house. You might also swing over to the New Inmate Processing area and give an introduction. Good smoking!! -(P-(P

[tfiechtner]

What's required to start purchasing?

[icehog3]

What's required to start purchasing?

The Buy/Sell Forums become visible after a small amount of time and participation.

The Retailer Forums should be visible to you immediately, you can buy from any of them.

[TXSmokey]

When I go into a B&M, what things should I arm myself with before I go in and make a purchase?


an AK-47, and a big suitcase to put all the cigars in. :r

[TXSmokey]

I've seen pics of cigar asylum poker chips and stickers, is there a website I can buy some from?

[pnoon]

I've seen pics of cigar asylum poker chips and stickers, is there a website I can buy some from?

Unfortunately, no.

Mike (Remo) did both runs of the chips. Shoot him a PM to see if he has more.

I will look into getting some more stickers made.

[TXSmokey]

ok Thanks

[LaugaBoy]

So, I've decided I wanted to try cigar smoking as a hobby. My question is : Can I get a good, relatively inexpensive (~$10) cigar at any given tobacco shack, or should I buy from online stores? I don't exactly trust buying anything online, but if it is a must, and can be done safely without having to worry about someone getting my credit card information, than I'll make an exception. Somebody help.

[ApexAZ]

So, I've decided I wanted to try cigar smoking as a hobby. My question is : Can I get a good, relatively inexpensive (~$10) cigar at any given tobacco shack, or should I buy from online stores? I don't exactly trust buying anything online, but if it is a must, and can be done safely without having to worry about someone getting my credit card information, than I'll make an exception. Somebody help.

Welcome to the Asylum! Local taxes can really affect the prices of cigars, but you should be able to accomplish this. Go to a tobacconist who specializes in premium cigars and they can show you an assortment of affordable cigars, I am sure. There was a thread started recently regarding the same question with many good suggestions already. Just read some of the more recent threads in the All Cigar Discussion forum.

Also, there are several reputable online retailers where you can safely order cigars. Many, many members order online regularly and have very few issues. Happy smoking!

[LaugaBoy]

Welcome to the Asylum! Local taxes can really affect the prices of cigars, but you should be able to accomplish this. Go to a tobacconist who specializes in premium cigars and they can show you an assortment of affordable cigars, I am sure. There was a thread started recently regarding the same question with many good suggestions already. Just read some of the more recent threads in the All Cigar Discussion forum.

Also, there are several reputable online retailers where you can safely order cigars. Many, many members order online regularly and have very few issues. Happy smoking!

Thanks!

[mosesbotbol]

So, I've decided I wanted to try cigar smoking as a hobby. My question is : Can I get a good, relatively inexpensive (~$10) cigar at any given tobacco shack, or should I buy from online stores?

Start off at the local tobacco shop and there's plenty of great cigars under $10. Try the big names first and keep the size similar if you want to compare brands.

[WhiteMamba]

In my experience online is cheaper. Try some samplers from places like cigarsinternational.com or famous-smoke.com If you have any problems with your shipment their customer service is usually pretty good.

[CigarNut]

In my experience online is cheaper. Try some samplers from places like cigarsinternational.com or famous-smoke.com If you have any problems with your shipment their customer service is usually pretty good.

You are right -- online is usually cheaper. However, if you have a local B&M, I would recommend supporting them -- not necessarily spending all your money there, but at least some of it.

For me it's always better to go to a local shop where I can talk to people (socialize), look at the cigars, etc. Basically, help them stay in business.

I know, often the people working at these stores know very little about cigars, but once in awhile you find someone who does know what they are talking about. The latter can make the experience that much better and worth your time.

If there is a local shop and you do not patronize them, then that one time when you really need a local shop (last minute cigar gift, etc.) then they might not be there for you...

Just my :2

[WhiteMamba]

:tpd: I agree Michael. It is good to go to a B&M some times and I do on occasion when they are having events or if I know they have something that I want to try. B&Ms are great but financially I can't make many visits to B&Ms knowing I can stretch my dollar a lot more online. My wife has given me a cigar budget and it's not much. B&Ms are great if you can afford them. In a perfect world I would be a regular at a B&M and make all my purchases there. :2

[jeepster]

I've been doing some research on tupperdors. Everything I see is saying to line it with old cigar boxes, or ceder. Is this really necessary? And what is the best method to control the humidity?

Last question. It says to calibrate some hygrometer. How do you do this? I haven't yet purchased anything to build one yet but I am wanting to here soon.

[pnoon]

I've been doing some research on tupperdors. Everything I see is saying to line it with old cigar boxes, or ceder. Is this really necessary? And what is the best method to control the humidity?

Last question. It says to calibrate some hygrometer. How do you do this? I haven't yet purchased anything to build one yet but I am wanting to here soon.

Cedar is not necessary.
You can control your humidity with beads or Boveda packs.
Calibration? Right here in a sticky thread.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=619&highlight=Calibrate

[jeepster]

Cedar is not necessary.
You can control your humidity with beads or Boveda packs.
Calibration? Right here in a sticky thread.
http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=619&highlight=Calibrate
Perfect! Thanks you sir!

[bimmerguy82]

I just purchased a 9 bottle wineador. I usually use Drymistat tubes for my humidor. how many tubes do you think i will need to keep my wineador at 65-70% RH? I will also try to keep the temps around 65-66*F. I will probably only have roughly 25-50 sticks in there at a time.
It's roughly 6 cubic feet. Thanks

[CigarNut]

I just purchased a 9 bottle wineador. I usually use Drymistat tubes for my humidor. how many tubes do you think i will need to keep my wineador at 65-70% RH? I will also try to keep the temps around 65-66*F. I will probably only have roughly 25-50 sticks in there at a time.
It's roughly 6 cubic feet. Thanks

Drymistat tubes are not be the best thing for a wineador. They simply release moisture until they dry out and do not absorb excess moisture (humidity). They can be effective in wooden humidors because they tend not to seal as well and the wood also absorbs moisture. However, even in a wooden humidor the Drymistat tubes tend to over-humidify.

Wineadors tend to seal very well, so you need a humidification device that will both absorb and release moisture as needed.

The other thing is that wineador cooling units come in two models: compressor or thermoelectric. The compressor models can cause spikes in RH when they cycle on. This is not a bad thing, but it is something to be aware of.

In any case, I would recommend something better than a Drymistat tube for humidification. I obviously have a bias, but beads would be a much better choice; either Heartfelt Beads (www.heartfeltindustries.com/ (http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/)) or HCM Beads (www.cigarbeads.com/ (http://www.cigarbeads.com/)). Just my :2

[bimmerguy82]

Drymistat tubes are not be the best thing for a wineador. They simply release moisture until they dry out and do not absorb excess moisture (humidity). They can be effective in wooden humidors because they tend not to seal as well and the wood also absorbs moisture. However, even in a wooden humidor the Drymistat tubes tend to over-humidify.

Wineadors tend to seal very well, so you need a humidification device that will both absorb and release moisture as needed.

The other thing is that wineador cooling units come in two models: compressor or thermoelectric. The compressor models can cause spikes in RH when they cycle on. This is not a bad thing, but it is something to be aware of.

In any case, I would recommend something better than a Drymistat tube for humidification. I obviously have a bias, but beads would be a much better choice; either Heartfelt Beads (www.heartfeltindustries.com/ (http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/)) or HCM Beads (www.cigarbeads.com/ (http://www.cigarbeads.com/)). Just my :2

Thanks CigarNut, I actually looked into Heartfelt beads last after night after searching more on the forum, but they are out of stock on the bigger bead bundles. :sh So I'll have to wait on that. My wineador is a thermoelectric, so spiking shouldn't be an issue. My wineador is about 2,800 cubic inches so I'll need a few beads. thanks for the info. Cheers

[AdamJoshua]

I would, personally, go with the Shilala's beads that CigarNut has linked on his reply :2

[irratebass]

Not a beginner, but I forgot what they are and I want to explain them to someone, can somebody tell me the "Rules Of 3" again please?

[bobarian]

"Three strikes, you're out."

"Three times a Lady" :sh

[AdamJoshua]

In any extreme situation you cannot survive for more than:

3 minutes without air - 3 hours without shelter (extreme heat or cold)

3 days without water - 3 weeks without food.

:dance:

[markem]

Not a beginner, but I forgot what they are and I want to explain them to someone, can somebody tell me the "Rules Of 3" again please?

The Rule of Three is a reference to an opinion that there is a specific and inviolable rule as to the aging of cigars. It is mentioned on CA as a very sarcastic reference to the person who "made this rule". There is no rule of three and to try to articulate it would be tantamount to encouraging a very naive approach to cigars that no one here should fall prey to.

In short - it's a joke and do not give it any credence whatsoever.

[Byaah]

Do we have any place we chat at in more of a live manner? Such as google hangouts or some chat room esq thing.

[Dude Here]

I think there are a couple of Facebook groups or something like that. I'm not on the book of faces so I really couldn't tell you for sure.

[Chris.]

A couple of years ago there was something, but I have long since forgotten where/what it was. Might have even been long before CA, back before puff came around...

[catdaddee69]

Yes im new to this site ,got a couple questions if ok? I been smokin for.quite a few yrs though has become very addictive as of this yr...I smoke alot of natural line by De..and like em alot...the acid line is too much like incense to me...questions...I like sweet caps such as baccarat,and Nicaraguan sweets I would like to know some other non infused sticks w sweet cap?I am also curious az to candela wrapped sticks....what would b some good choices there? Thanks in advance for any help

[chooglin]

Where did the cc reviews go. I like to read them. Thanks.

[Alewis1983]

Hi Guys,

A newbie's quick question, could you please identify whether this is a mold or a bloom?

Thanks in advance

[T.G]

Mold. Sorry.

Not serious, damaging or dangerous though. Brush it off and lower your storage humidity, you might need to leave the box open for a bit and you'll be fine.

[dijit]

Mold. Sorry.

Not serious, damaging or dangerous though. Brush it off and lower your storage humidity, you might need to leave the box open for a bit and you'll be fine.

Correct and if you are using water as opposed to beads for humidity make sure you are using distilled water as tap water will promote mold growth.

[alhenry92]

this may be the noobiest question, but what makes the cuban cigar in general, the premier and iconic smoke?

[RobR1205]

this may be the noobiest question, but what makes the cuban cigar in general, the premier and iconic smoke?

Generally speaking, most people will argue soil, growing conditions, region of the world, quality control, etc. However, some people are simply hung up on the fact that they are illegal to buy in the US, therefore they MUST be better (a Cuban Cigar Placebo Effect if you want to think of it that way). But honestly, CCs are not always "better" (which is a highly subjective term and depends what you mean by better).

In my opinion, many NCs (non-cubans) can stand toe to toe with CCs. That's not to say however, that I don't think CCs have their strong points. CCs have a unique flavor I've found, that many NCs cannot imitate...some of the best cigars I've ever had have been CC. If you happen to like this flavor, then great, you'll love CCs. If you do not, then you will think CCs are overrated.

You'll find many people who have differing opinions: some who are CC fanatics, and some who are NC fanatics. However, most, if not all, newer smokers who haven't tried a wide variety of cigars won't even be able to distinguish the nuances that seperate CCs and NCs.

Tobacco hailing from Mexico, Nicaragua, Honduras, Brazil, Connecticut, Dom.Rep., etc all have their own unique "flavors" and characteristics. To say they are all the same would be like saying every wine or every beer tastes the same just because they are made from the same general ingredients. Hope this helps!

[Wharf Rat]

this may be the noobiest question, but what makes the cuban cigar in general, the premier and iconic smoke?

There's a good analogy between cigars and fine wine. In both cases, there was an area with excellent growing conditions and the know-how to make a fine product (France for wine and Cuba for cigars). Later, new areas started making competitive products.

I remember when people looked down on wine from California or cigars from Central America. Today, they make products that are very excellent. But, they aren't exactly the same! So, you can decide what you prefer. That's the fun of it.

[alhenry92]

All very good points, honestly i havent enjoyed enough cigars to really get a feel of what i prefer yet, but so far i like villiger elite toros. i WANT to get pre embargos down the line, moneys pretty tight at the moment though.

[gliderryder]

I just started using this forum and also I am a beginner to the cigar world. I purchased a humidor and also a electric humidifier. My question is can I cut a slot in the shelving to make room for the electric humidifier? :

[CigarNut]

I just started using this forum and also I am a beginner to the cigar world. I purchased a humidor and also a electric humidifier. My question is can I cut a slot in the shelving to make room for the electric humidifier? :

You certainly can cut a slot. However, before you do so, you might want to check to see if you really need an electric humidifier for your humidor. There are other alternatives that may be more effective depending upon the size of your humidor.

If you do decide to cut a slot -- be careful. Sometimes the wood is a composite and you never know what the core is made of. It might be a variety of particle board which could get too moist and moldy.

What size humidor do you have? (e.g., dimensions or number of cigars -- although you will come to fine out that the latter measure is not very accurate).

Also, you might want to drop by here (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=7) and introduce yourself.

[mosesbotbol]

I just started using this forum and also I am a beginner to the cigar world. I purchased a humidor and also a electric humidifier. My question is can I cut a slot in the shelving to make room for the electric humidifier? :

How big is the humidor? Please post pictures for best advice. Shouldn't need a n electric humidifier if only a desktop humidor.

[gliderryder]

It us 15x12x8 and holds 150 cigars. I purchased an oasis electric humidifier cause I didn't want to fuss with the other humidifiers. wanted to look in my humidore and see what the RH is.

[Flynnster]

It may be too late to return it, but for that size humidor you can easily get a bag of beads, and have to do almost nothing to them except recharge them with water every 6ish months.

And then a $12 digital RH monitor so you can peak in and see what's going on.

[big_jaygee]

It us 15x12x8 and holds 150 cigars. I purchased an oasis electric humidifier cause I didn't want to fuss with the other humidifiers. wanted to look in my humidore and see what the RH is.

for something that size, you can just buy an 8oz of HCM beads and not have to deal with the oasis.

[gliderryder]

OK got it. Thanks for the input.

[CdnStogie]

Is there a minimum temp that most would keep their cigars at? I know the max of being 70F.

Been keeping my cigars in the basement in a closet recently for the last couple weeks. In the cool winter months in Canada, my basement room can drop down to the low 60's. Typically sitting around 64 but this morning was at 61F. Keeps the beetles at bay - but will this have any negative effects on taste, aging etc?

I have read information on humidity effects w/ lower temperature. Should I in turn be changing what RH I am after? Currently keeping it around 67%

[Porch Dweller]

I keep mine in a wineador mainly to keep them cooler during the summer. Once winter rolls around I unplug it. So the temperature gets down to about 63 at night sometimes. I use beads and they keep the RH pretty rock steady even with the temperature changes. I notice no difference in how my cigars taste at the lower temperature versus the summertime when they're at 68 then taken outside into 90-degree weather to be smoked.
Cigars are pretty resilient.

Short answer: if they taste good to you, I wouldn't be concerned.

[CdnStogie]

Thank you kindly James!

[gliderryder]

hmmmm I need to know if it would be bad for my cigs at 63 degrees? my rh is about 72-73% range but when I go to cut the ends it just crumples and falls apart like it is to dry. Any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Porch Dweller]

hmmmm I need to know if it would be bad for my cigs at 63 degrees? my rh is about 72-73% range but when I go to cut the ends it just crumples and falls apart like it is to dry. Any help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, 63 degrees is not going to hurt your cigars as long as the RH is in the proper range. So:
How long have the cigars been at that RH?
When was the last time your hygrometer was calibrated?
Are the blades on your cutter sharp?

[icehog3]

James may be on to something, sounds like your hygrometer may be off. Is it digital or analog?

[gliderryder]

I have an electric humidifier that I put in a month ago. so my cigs have been in there for about a month. the cutter insn't that old so I do not think that is the problem.

[CigarNut]

I have an electric humidifier that I put in a month ago. so my cigs have been in there for about a month. the cutter insn't that old so I do not think that is the problem.

Do you have a separate hygrometer in your humidor along with the humidifier? If so, is it analog or digital?

If you do not have a hygrometer and relying solely on the settings for the electric humidifier I would strongly recommend that you get a digital hygrometer as the electric humidifiers are not very accurate.

In any case, your cigars should be good for a while -- they are very resilient -- while you solve your problems.