So Politically Correct we can't talk?

The Professor · 12-19-2008, 08:06 AM

I guess I'm not sure why an inclusive greeting between people who (a) may not share the same religious affiliation and (b) may not know each other's degree of religiosity or affiliation is a bad thing. Why is defaulting to a greeting that's inclusive rather than exclusive bad? I say "happy holidays" all the time and don't really understand why the email referenced in the OP is bad at all. Seems like a pleasant and thoughtful fellow, if you ask me.

tedrodgerscpa · 12-19-2008, 08:18 AM

I'm not a Christian, and it doesnt' bother me in the least bit when someone wishes me a 'Merry Christmas'

I do celebrate the holiday, and I'm careful to wish the people I'm around a 'Happy Holiday', because my job does require sensitivity in a very culturally diverse workplace

I can sympathize with both sides of the argument.

I choose to be respectful to those who do not celebrate the Christian version of Christmas, or participate in other (Hanukkah, Kwanzaa) holidays.

I also have a couple of friends who, due to their religious beliefs, do not celebrate any holidays. We've talked about this very subject... When someone wishes them a "Happy Thanksgiving", they simply say "Thank you".

BTW, I celebrate Halloween and I'm not a Celtic Pagan, either...

Genetic Defect · 12-23-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Professor

I guess I'm not sure why an inclusive greeting between people who (a) may not share the same religious affiliation and (b) may not know each other's degree of religiosity or affiliation is a bad thing. Why is defaulting to a greeting that's inclusive rather than exclusive bad? I say "happy holidays" all the time and don't really understand why the email referenced in the OP is bad at all. Seems like a pleasant and thoughtful fellow, if you ask me.

and this is why you don't get asked.

I would like to see sample pics of the obvious looking Jewish people

RevSmoke · 12-23-2008, 03:04 PM

I thought to read this and see what is going on. I could speak about a number of things. But, I only want to right quickly and off the cuff. So, here goes...

I would be offended if a Jew were to wish me - Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas. Why? They mean nothing to him. I would expect him to wish me the best of what he believes, and greet me with Happy Chanukah.

In the same way, when I expect Christians to wish me a Merry Christmas, it is not a way of pushing religion on them - it is wishing them the very best of what Christians believe to be true.

In the same way, I'd never expect a non-Christian to wish me a Merry Christmas or Happy Chanukah, but Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings.

Anyway, just some of my thoughts.

MadAl · 12-23-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevSmoke

I thought to read this and see what is going on. I could speak about a number of things. But, I only want to right quickly and off the cuff. So, here goes...

I would be offended if a Jew were to wish me - Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas. Why? They mean nothing to him. I would expect him to wish me the best of what he believes, and greet me with Happy Chanukah.

In the same way, when I expect Christians to wish me a Merry Christmas, it is not a way of pushing religion on them - it is wishing them the very best of what Christians believe to be true.

In the same way, I'd never expect a non-Christian to wish me a Merry Christmas or Happy Chanukah, but Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings.

Anyway, just some of my thoughts.

If I, a Jew, wished you a Merry Christmas, I would hope you would consider that I have taken the time to learn something about the sanctity of Christmas, and what it means to those of the Christian faith. Maybe that's just me, but I hope you would take it that way.

RevSmoke · 12-24-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadAl

If I, a Jew, wished you a Merry Christmas, I would hope you would consider that I have taken the time to learn something about the sanctity of Christmas, and what it means to those of the Christian faith. Maybe that's just me, but I hope you would take it that way.

If you so desire, I will take it that way. And gladly.

I would hope that you also understand my point?

12-19-2008, 08:06 AM	#1
The Professor i wish i was geRRy... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: geRRy Location: So*Cal... Posts: 1,703 Trading: (7)	Re: So Politically Correct we can't talk? I guess I'm not sure why an inclusive greeting between people who (a) may not share the same religious affiliation and (b) may not know each other's degree of religiosity or affiliation is a bad thing. Why is defaulting to a greeting that's inclusive rather than exclusive bad? I say "happy holidays" all the time and don't really understand why the email referenced in the OP is bad at all. Seems like a pleasant and thoughtful fellow, if you ask me.

12-19-2008, 08:18 AM	#2
tedrodgerscpa Palmetto State Herf Crew! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ted Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,712 Trading: (87)	Re: So Politically Correct we can't talk? I'm not a Christian, and it doesnt' bother me in the least bit when someone wishes me a 'Merry Christmas' I do celebrate the holiday, and I'm careful to wish the people I'm around a 'Happy Holiday', because my job does require *sensitivity* in a very culturally diverse workplace I can sympathize with both sides of the argument. I choose to be respectful to those who do not celebrate the Christian version of Christmas, or participate in other (Hanukkah, Kwanzaa) holidays. I also have a couple of friends who, due to their religious beliefs, do not celebrate any holidays. We've talked about this very subject... When someone wishes them a "Happy Thanksgiving", they simply say "Thank you". BTW, I celebrate Halloween and I'm not a Celtic Pagan, either... __________________ Everyday I'm shufflin...

12-23-2008, 03:04 PM	#4
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,875 Trading: (51)	Re: So Politically Correct we can't talk? I thought to read this and see what is going on. I could speak about a number of things. But, I only want to right quickly and off the cuff. So, here goes... I would be offended if a Jew were to wish me - Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas. Why? They mean nothing to him. I would expect him to wish me the best of what he believes, and greet me with Happy Chanukah. In the same way, when I expect Christians to wish me a Merry Christmas, it is not a way of pushing religion on them - it is wishing them the very best of what Christians believe to be true. In the same way, I'd never expect a non-Christian to wish me a Merry Christmas or Happy Chanukah, but Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings. Anyway, just some of my thoughts. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"