The Official Soccer/Football/Futbol/Calcio thread

[pnoon]

Liverpool may have beaten Man U once this season, won't happen twice.

:r

They sure showed good form today vs. Fulham. :rolleyes:

[Don Fernando]

Fullham, Boro, what is the difference Peter?

[pnoon]

Fullham, Boro, what is the difference Peter?

No difference. Just having some :hf

[Don Fernando]

laugh all you want, we're still on top of the leage :fu

[theycallmedan'lboone]

* for reference only * Liverpool have beaten United twice this season.

[Don Fernando]

well, twice then. But United is still on top of the leage and that's not going to change.

[pnoon]

well, twice then. But United is still on top of the leage and that's not going to change.

He says hopefully.



A couple of weeks ago I would have agreed with you. Now, not so much. :)

[theycallmedan'lboone]

yes United are still in command, their current form doesn't belie their abilities, whereas L'pool's finally seems to. United are a point up, with a game in hand. This will be a race to the finish. United must LOSE at least one more game for Liverpool to take over. A lose and a draw would make me happier... but this season will IMHO come down to the last game of the season. As far as the CL goes... I look forward to it. Liverpool has Chelsea, with the first Leg at Anfield, but United has the far easier road, facing porto, then either Arsenal or Villareal. Arsenal has played United well this season, and with the CL being their only hope for silverware, you'd figure Voyer would put more of his eggs in that basket, where "Mister Alex" has still the EPL to work on keeping... Should be interesting at the least. CL Final party at me house.

Be Champions.

[Lumpold]

CL Final party at me house.


You are actually turning in to Jamie Carragher.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

someone noticed....I'm thinking about dropping a 5vr that Liverpool moves past Chelsea in the CL... any takers?

[TheRiddick]

Liverpool are just an injury away from being a disaster and in some ways Chelsea as well. Anelka is already out, either Torres or Gerrard go down and both teams will be done.

I'll take the Liverpool vs Chelsea CL bet, what the hell. With Hiddink in the house I say Chelsea are a better side (although they have no bench).

[mastershogun]

Liverpool are just an injury away from being a disaster and in some ways Chelsea as well. Anelka is already out, either Torres or Gerrard go down and both teams will be done.

I'll take the Liverpool vs Chelsea CL bet, what the hell. With Hiddink in the house I say Chelsea are a better side (although they have no bench).

:tpd:

[theycallmedan'lboone]

aright riddick, and mastersho... that does it for me humi's kinda full, but can't afford just giving them away.. like I did with Auburn football this past season.. Riddick, Shogun, Winner who goes through being either Liverpool or Chelsea. Chelsea goes through, you fine gentleman receive 5 each, the lads from the mersey go through.. well. I win. Be Champions. I'd take Liverpool's bench over Chelsea's any day of the week. I'd like to think that Liverpool could win 4 against Chelsea in a season. However Chelsea have been resurgent, but Liverpool have been.. disgustingly menacing? Time will tell. Be champions.

[Jason]

Just laughed out loud watching SKY sports news, previewing the holland/scotland match, they're interviewing the Scots in Amsterdam and one says:

Muh 'eh says it'll be Olland three nil, me hairt says it'll be Olland two nil

good stuff :D

[aldukes]

Hi. I'm the new Spain kits. Boy am I ugly.

[TheRiddick]

aright riddick, and mastersho... that does it for me humi's kinda full, but can't afford just giving them away.. like I did with Auburn football this past season.. Riddick, Shogun, Winner who goes through being either Liverpool or Chelsea. Chelsea goes through, you fine gentleman receive 5 each, the lads from the mersey go through.. well. I win. Be Champions. I'd take Liverpool's bench over Chelsea's any day of the week. I'd like to think that Liverpool could win 4 against Chelsea in a season. However Chelsea have been resurgent, but Liverpool have been.. disgustingly menacing? Time will tell. Be champions.

I am a long time ManU fan, but what the hey :-) I just think that Liverpool may have an over-confidence problem as of now and like I said, you better prey that Torres comes back from internationals next week in one piece.

That should be an interesting week...

[Don Fernando]

Just laughed out loud watching SKY sports news, previewing the holland/scotland match, they're interviewing the Scots in Amsterdam and one says:



The city was packed with Scots in kilts when I took a stroll in my lunchbreak on friday. Reminded me of the time Ajax played Celtic for the Champions League a few years ago, those Scots know how to party.

his first git feeling was right, Olland won 3-0 (Huntelaar, Van Persie, Kuyt)

[mastershogun]

aright riddick, and mastersho... that does it for me humi's kinda full, but can't afford just giving them away.. like I did with Auburn football this past season.. Riddick, Shogun, Winner who goes through being either Liverpool or Chelsea. Chelsea goes through, you fine gentleman receive 5 each, the lads from the mersey go through.. well. I win. Be Champions. I'd take Liverpool's bench over Chelsea's any day of the week. I'd like to think that Liverpool could win 4 against Chelsea in a season. However Chelsea have been resurgent, but Liverpool have been.. disgustingly menacing? Time will tell. Be champions.

sorry, forgot to respond to this... i'm game :)
not always confident in my pick but always up for some fun :tu

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I can't say as that Liverpool have a confidence problem. United might... but Liverpool... Who's bigger than liverpool :'-) thanks carra for proving me point!

[TheRiddick]

I can't say as that Liverpool have a confidence problem. United might... but Liverpool... Who's bigger than liverpool :'-) thanks carra for proving me point!

Please tell me you're kidding. United have a confidence problem? Wow...

It is remarkable that Liverpool supporters assume that the team won't drop points from now on.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I figure that the only chance for my team to win the EPL is for them to win every match and hope United's string of bad form continues. Do United have the upper hand? yes. Are they still Favorites. I think they have been since day one. Do I think they have the propensity to continue to drop points? Yes. It's is remarkable to me that United supporters deem themselves above dropping points. Obviously my team isn't above it... see Stoke, Hull, BORO... My point that United has a possible confidence problem... they've lost 2 consecutive games. They had all their big names against fulham save Vidic, and still put on a piss poor display. Even the boy rooney couldn't save them, try as he did... wouldn't you have a confidence problem if you lost two games in a row for the first time in a long time? They do have an easier (if there is one) road is the CL which should give SAF some time to rest some of the older boys for the PL... time shall tell. The season will come down to the last game or two IMHO. It's hard to tell Liverpool that they have a big head scoring what 13 goals in 3 games and having beaten some of the biggest names in football doing it.... Real Madrid, Manchester United... sure United may win out and I don't think too many people would be surprised if they did, but Liverpool have shown what they are made of, finally stepped it up in the big games, and honestly are only 3 wins out of the 10 draws away from being untouchable. Time shall tell.

[TheRiddick]

Hmmm... where did you see me state that I do not expect United to drop points? I did say that the assumption out there is that Liverpool won't (by 'pool fans). Actually I more than willing to bet 'pool will drop points and not just one game. Only last season's Chelsea team had the sort of end of season consistency that is United's trademark for some time now. Remember Keegan and Blackburn? Arsenal last year?

I will be the first one to say that what United need is a true striker. Yes, I like Rooney and what he brings, but they do miss Nistelory type player in the box ever since he left. For the number of opportubities United create each and every game, they should be posting 4-5 goals every time, but they don't. In esense, they have been playin with 10 men on pretty much every game, at least every time that lazy ass Berbatov is on. I really wish they unload both Berbatov and Tevez (yeah, I know I'll catch flack for saying this) this summer and replace them with one true striker-poacher. And then let Macheda play in the senior squad, he has been ripping the reserves league to shreds for some time now.

Actually, I really wish SAF would let Macheda loose on Villa this weekend, not much to loose and everything to gain, IMO.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Can't say as that I disagree with your striker thought...


update on team Misfits in the Huntsville Adult Soccer League, where I, El Pittman, am the Special one. Ok not quite. Since my knee injury I've been relegated to playing keeper, not too bad since our old one fell off the face of the earth. Knee is getting better by the day. We've had three game a goalless draw, a 2-2 draw and a 4-3 win. Last night was our first win, pretty exciting. minus the letting in 5 goals. I was kinda upset at myself last night for the first goal, I froze and didn't charge the attacker, and for their third, which was a free kick. (although I wouldn't mind blaming the ref) I was lining up my wall and he blew the whistle and I was way out of position, lob shot, just past my fingers... oh well. So right now, we're one of the 2 teams in our division who hasn't been defeated. We have a 2 week break and will get back at it.. no goals from The boy Pittman yet.. it will come, probably in the form of a penalty..

[GTsetGO]

holy hell did you see the finish to the MU/villa game. literally had me on the edge of my chair and i jump up when that 3rd goal was scored.

great game

[TheRiddick]

MACHEDA (I called it above).

Ferdinand not playing was interesting, they kept saying his back is fine and should hold for the game. Both Villa balls were headers and I am not sure why Evans and O'Shay, with their decent height, could not do better.

I think Tevez is gone come summer, Inter?, lots of energy that doesn't do much in the end.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Tevez is a rooney-ish player, minus rooney's defensive skills. I agree, he'll probably be gone over the summer.

[Bubba - NJ]

That was a GREAT GOAL by the 17 year old Macheda complete with going to family in the stands and getting a yellow for it . Benayouns goal for Liverpool was excellent as well . This game is really growing on me ! Maybe I'll get lucky enough and a couple friendlies will get played in Philly this summer . :tu

[theycallmedan'lboone]

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I think with the season in it's final throes, JDB is close to have wrapped it up.



anybody going to offer a 5er on United?!?! HAHAH! *in no way would I ever take that bet*

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Good luck to all involved today. May there be much happiness, scotch and cigars.
Be Champions.

[mastershogun]

anybody going to offer a 5er on United?!?! HAHAH! *in no way would I ever take that bet*

maybe you should have taken that bet... at least at the 4th minute!

[TheRiddick]

I had a sinking feeling ManU will falter today, too many people discount Porto yet they are still in the CL playoffs right along with the "big boys". They need a real striker as I keep saying, and until the day they buy one they won't be a "whole" team. This from a long time ManU supporter. Scholes needs to retire and will do so this summer, his play was atrocious today. Even Carrick could not pass the ball today for the most part. Arghh....

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I didn't get to see either match, as I was saving up to take this afternoon off, but the goals were all very nice. Rooneys little flick, not too shabby, Adebeyour's goal was very nice..

[mastershogun]

1st half of the barca game was awesome!

[Jason]

Hiddink is the man. has to be the special one that tuenwd the prev games into a snoozefest

[TheRiddick]

Is the bet on Liverpool - Chelsea still on? Not that I can't happen, but I don't think Chelsea will loose at home by 2 goals.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I started the bet, I intend to finish it, to suggest otherwise would be un-gentlemanly of me, and no I don't think Chelsea will lose at home by 2+ goals. I know they can be beaten, and by 2+ goals, but Liverpool didn't show up, or did for about 10 minutes and then said 'oi lad pints at the pub'. I will say that Essien did a remarkable job shadowing Steven Gerrard, he was only Vaguely there. What do you think about JT's yellow for "jumping into" Pepe Reina? I couldn't believe it, he's on a yellow, ball is 5 feet above his head and he jumps laterally... not too bright from the London Lad. I do not envy whoever continues from our clash, as they will face a devastatingly effective Barca squad. Anyone see Henry kick the keeper in the face?

Need some hilarity in your life? Enjoy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_cwwWcyqQ)

[mastershogun]

I started the bet, I intend to finish it, to suggest otherwise would be un-gentlemanly of me, and no I don't think Chelsea will lose at home by 2+ goals. I know they can be beaten, and by 2+ goals, but Liverpool didn't show up, or did for about 10 minutes and then said 'oi lad pints at the pub'. I will say that Essien did a remarkable job shadowing Steven Gerrard, he was only Vaguely there. What do you think about JT's yellow for "jumping into" Pepe Reina? I couldn't believe it, he's on a yellow, ball is 5 feet above his head and he jumps laterally... not too bright from the London Lad. I do not envy whoever continues from our clash, as they will face a devastatingly effective Barca squad. Anyone see Henry kick the keeper in the face?

Need some hilarity in your life? Enjoy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_cwwWcyqQ)

i know henry could not stop and was sliding off balanced but nonetheless that was very dangerous. :mad:

[TheRiddick]

Terry is an idiot, too bad so many refs tolerate his (mis)behavior instead of doing what they need to rules wise. He usually runs through people never even looking at the ball.

Recall what I said above about Liverpool, they are an injury or two away from disaster. Gerard now, Torres may be as well come weekend. Rafa has no subs for these two.

I do not like Chelsea for a number of reasons, but them bringing Hiddinck in was the difference I figured could be enough to balance things out in this match up. Lampard looked like crap, his usual self IMO, and I have no idea why he ever features on England team. Essien was the difference. Now that Corvallho will most likely deputise for Terry, I think Chelsea defense may actually be improved for the next game, where Terry plays using his size and lack of brains, Corvallho is all brains and speed. Not that I am saying it is a done deal, but next game will probably be very entertaining (and dependent on what happens this weekend in EPL).

As much as I hope ManU can beat Porto away, unless they take some chances with their attacking options, I see Porto playin 10 in their own half and looking for nil-nil result. Evans gave away the first goal, Neville the second, Ferdinand is essential for next game. I'd say let Macheda do some running, his is way different and more effective than that of Tevez, and this may be enough to unsettle Porto. Plus I am willing to bet Scholes will be on the bench at best and Park will run Porto rugged.

Barca are the only sure bet so far.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_cwwWcyqQ really you should watching this.

[TheRiddick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_cwwWcyqQ really you should watching this.

He's way too light on Lampard, Terry and Cole. Funny how he didn't have any negative feedback on Liverpool and ManU players...

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I'm not sure, but I think he's the same guy who imitates the liverpool players. I think had any Liverpool player been there, or a United player other than Carrick, He'd have said something. The whole "unfortunate forward hairline" was hilarious.


Any predictions from this weekend. All the talking heads on Skysports/soccernet, seem to think Liverpool is set to take out their frustrations on poor blackburn. to be honest I'd love to see it, my opinion is that if they don't win 2,3-0 The chelsea defeat may have taken whatever starch Liverpool had left, out of them. United play a Sunderland who is on the verge of winning.. I'd be really shocked if united don't go 3-0 on them. any thoughts?

[TheRiddick]

Hmmmm... Rio was there as well, and so was Beckham :-))

Liverlpool game. Blackburn are more hurt, injuries wise, than 'Pool, although their drive is stronger since they are playing for their lives in the EPL. Tough to predict, although Gerard not playing is a big deal, not only will he be missed on the pitch (although I love Benayun and what he brings), this alters team's mental state since they will also be thinking of the upcoming trip to Chelsea and Gerard's possible sitting out that game as well. Let's not forget Torres is playing somewhat hurt, anything happens to him and 'Pool are done for the year. For a supposed contender, relying on just 2 players and their health is simply crazy, IMO. I'd say this may end in a draw with Blackburn front line's size making the difference at set pieces.

United game. Have no idea at this point. Vidic is there and I am guessing he will partner O'Shay (both Evans and Ferdinand are out). This leaves Neville on the right (an issue since he is not up to snuff yet) and no other backup, they do have a decent up and coming young kid, but he's more of center back. In the middle I call Ronaldo, Park, Fletcher and Carrick, although either Anderson or Nani could deputise for Carrick (he was way too slow and tired in the past week making way too many mistakes). Scholes better not be on the bench (Andreson). Up front, Rooney and Tevez, although I wish SAF starts playing the young guns, chiefly Macheda since he brings a different type of running (North/South instead of circles like Tevez does), at least for the last 20-25 minutes. I'd say a one goal win for United, whatever the score. At least I wish it this way :-)

Chelsea should win. Everton just might bring it to Villa and take that game. Arsenal should win, although they have a bunch of injuries and this could affect the game greatly (Van Persie is out?).

[theycallmedan'lboone]

true, no date on when it was filmed.. if it was not too long there's always the red giant... anyways. I'm glad someone else appreciate's the israeli. I think he brings much more to the game than Kuyt, and I love kuyt's never say day thing. Don't forget Gallas... he's done for the season. Carra has said the league is more important. Does rafa da gaffa play Gerrard and just hope for the best come Tuesday? or does he let the team play without him and see how things go (my guess). I'd love to see Everton beat villa. They're playing on nothing but fumes and chemistry, although JO brings something completely different (thanks Monty)...

[TheRiddick]

I don't think Gerard will play tomorrow, he is hurting and even if Rafa says go, I don't think Gerard's body will comply, he was more than subdued against Chelsea. Gallas is done, but I am sure Silvestre will do just fine in his place, Van Persie is a much bigger issue. Everton will play with a double incentive, first to overtake Villa and then hope that Arsenal will falter as well, should be a great game. If Moyes gets more money this summer, Everton will be scary next year.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I like David Moyes, I really think he's a good coach, and must agree, a few key buys and they could be VERY scary. Agger and Benayoun, Insua, Mascherano starting 11. 4-4-2... A minutes silence for the 96. Thats a little bit scary seeing Anfield deathly silent.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

your boy Macheda has scored some important goals here lately.

[TheRiddick]

Looks like Tevez is gone this summer for sure, and as a ManU supporter I say, Thank you for your contribution, but its time to move along. I think Ronaldo will be gone as well, I just need to see Tosic in a few more games to see what he can do. Not sure Ribery will be available, but I'll gladly would do the trade.

Chelsea looked like its a game done with, have no idea why Bolton spent the entire first half playing behind the ball, by the looks of it they could have done much better if they actually brought the game to Chelsea from the get go. 'Pool looked impressive. Arsenal? Same as ManU, I had doubts.

At least we have some great young guns coming through ManU youth team, although we still need a real striker, Berba ain't it IMO. Macheda will do great, the kid has no "mental block" playing the big league, and his direct running is new for ManU finesse game. A few of my soccer buddies play fantasy league, last weekend (before Macheda's first outing) I told them to look out for the kid, they gave me a strange look and asked, Who the hell are you talking about? They know now :-)

I am still worried about Porto game, ManU really need to step up.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I think united will pull out the stops at Porto. I got to watch The last 20 of the United-Sunderland fixture, and that kid has got some serious talent, he will be a force soon enough. I wouldn't mind ronaldo leaving, and I think his "mild" year will help him want to move, he gets beat up pretty bad in the EPL, and he would live longer in Spain. Only problem with him leaving, is who united get to replace him with (multiple)

[TheRiddick]

Well, Tosic is in, and from what I saw of him so far, he will fit well, he just needs better conditioning, up to EPL standards, plus some more weight and muscle, same issue Fletcher had when he was brought in years ago. Rumors are that Ribery will be Ronaldo's replacement and although Germans kep saying No, with a new coach to be installed soon enough their resolve to keep the guy plus Uniteds ability to pay a lot (using the proceeds from Ronaldo's sale) could change people's minds. Tevez is gone and I see Berbatov as a sub next year, no team in EPL can play 10 men in every game Berbatov is on, he's got more talent than most anyone around, but his laziness eventually costs the team, 10 men on for most of the season catches up quickly and makes the 10 men very tired and spent (we see it now). Welback will be loaned out, so will Frazier again, or both sold to bring one more true striker (Macheda is one). And one more central defender, they have a great young kid in the academy, but will probably go for one more experienced body, should have kept Pique, but then again we'd never find out how good Evans can be. They are set in the middle for now, hopefully Hargreaves will come back healthy (yet another option to replace Ronaldo, although risky due to Owen' on-going medical issues). Scholes is gone next year, Anderson will step up. And I still need to see Ljajic, supposedly he's the real deal and another option to replace Ronaldo.

I expected Everton to step up today and they did, away at a great team. Moyes needs more funds this summer to make next year's EPL more interesting beyond the usual 4-5 teams and out, I really hope team's management gets him the mney required. Arsenal could be scary next year as well depending on injuries. Chelsea must start bringing young blood in, this year shows they are getting old fast. 'Pool? Get rid of Benitez and start buying strikers to help out Torres, Benitez's expenditures, over 200M pounds and counting, have so far failed to bring in any trophies, that's the poorest ROI I have seen so far at any team in EPL or Europe for that matter.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

While, I can't say I agree entirely about getting rid of Benitez, Jason has mentioned the reek Parry issue, which according to Rafa da Gaffa, will straighten things out. Although I thought he was outside his mind when he was considering losing Alonso to pick up Barry. I think Rafa is a pretty good coach. Time will tell. Personally I think the Gerrard/Torres combination is a pretty decent one at WORST. While Gerrard isn't a true striker, I think he pairs well with Torres. I think Benitez has made some good buys in the past bit, Skrtel, Reira, I think Ngog will do acceptably, and Insua as he has pretty much proven. A good manager must have time, I think 'the hackman' needed more time, but wasn't the best fit for Chelsea. Yes, hiddink has done well, and should be kept if possible by the chelsea boardroom. I think If Benny can keep his defensive corps together(AGGER DAMNIT). I have trouble with complaining about kuyt on the wing thing, because he has the knack for popping up with goals on the occassion and the man will flat run until he cannot move. I think Benayoun is a better fit there and would produce more but I'm not the boss. TO refute your "trophyless claim" 2005 CL Cup, 2006 FA Cup, 2006 (or 7) Charity Shield. Lost by 1 goal in the 2007 CL Final. Not exactly poor returns. Wouldn't have minded picking up a piece of silverware in between, especially the FA cup last year. Trophey's take time, and I think Benitez is what's best for Liverpool.

[TheRiddick]

2005/2006 wasn't really Benitez's team, he inherited most of the players. Now that Liverpool are stretched financially, he will need to sell before he buys. Should be interesting. Yes, I know they bring in the money from TV and other competitions, but as is, unless a miracle happens on Tuesday, they only have one to play for this year (EPL) and it won't depend on them, either. Kuyt is another Tevez, huge charge of energy, but I'll take someone with football smarts (Benayun in 'Pool) any day of the week.

Still, for a 200M+ pounds outlay, Benitez has to show much more than he has so far. Imagine Moyes with that much cash available. Or O'Neill. Or Bruce. I would bet any of them would show much better results. There is no way in hell I would be signing Benitez to a 5 year extension without certain guarantees and pay for performance written in. His entire team and season depend on just 2 players, way too little to show for that 200+M expenditure.

Let's see what happens in Arsenal game, although they are without 2 central defenders now. If they draw or loose to Arsenal with United having 2 games in hand, its a done deal (and season for Liverpool) whether United loose to Arsenal or not.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Go liverpool!

[4WheelVFR]

I just picked up Directv with Setanta Sports this month. I can finally keep up with this thread a little bit.:)

[mastershogun]

wow, perfect start for 'pool

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Well boys, I told myself I wouldn't check scores, I wouldn't fast forward to the end, I would turn of my phone so as to ignore the texts/calls with score updates, and I couldn't handle it. I checked about 2 minutes before Drogba scored, and was overjoyed. I was ecstatic. then Drogba, then alex, and now lampard. I can't decided if I even want to see the goals. I hear Aurelio's was cheeky and that the Penalty was soft as lotion layered toliet paper. But, shogun and riddick I will need your addresses. *unless there is a repeat of istanbul with 5 minutes to go* but I bet on my team and lost, and you gentlemen have won. but I still point out that I called for a barca - MU final... and that's still a possibilty. Congrats.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

apparently I should have kept typing, as liverpool scored twice while I was... but then lo and behold Chelsea score no sooner than switching back to soccernet... curses.

[Lumpold]

Oh.My.God.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Oh.My.God. yeah. too bad it didn't finish my way... but Good luck with barca... really.

[aldukes]

That game was like watching a bunch of 8yr olds play.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

bunchball from one end to the other? or just stupid sloppy?

[Lumpold]

yeah. too bad it didn't finish my way...

or mine, mate.

[aldukes]

bunchball from one end to the other? or just stupid sloppy?

Both keepers were terrible. Cech was all over the place, except on his goal line. If Chelsea plays like that against Barca- we could see 7-1 agg.

[TheRiddick]

As a long time stopper/left back all I can say is that a defender always thinks his goalie got his back. Actually, trusts so. The howler Chech let in, from way out there in the boondocks seriously altered the game for Chelsea, defense at that point had to think twice about making any minor mistake seeing how Chech cannot be depended upon.

Great game. One thing that strikes me about this Chelsea team is how primadonna like most of them are, not just in this game, but this entire season. They score a goal or two and all of a sudden switch it off thinking the other team is done with. Pretty arrogant and self defeating, IMO. And as much as I thought they may give Barca a decent game or two, I am not at all sure now.

Speaking of Barca, what a team of divers. Jeeezzz... With so much talent they should play like true professionals. Oh well. At least Chelsea is way more physical than Hamburg, so there is hope. I felt really bad for Ribery, he had no one to pass to.

[TheRiddick]

2 great games to day, IMO. United seem to be back, complete control of the game (Porto had their first corner at the 74 minute mark), defense back to its normal self save for 1 or 2 mild scrambles. Arsenal did as they were supposed to.

As much as I hope Chelsea will kick Barca's ass, I am not sure of that pairing. ManU and Arsenal should give us great games. So, how many times will ManU and Arsenal play this season? Crazy.

[Bubba - NJ]

While I'm no expert , it seems to me that Man U. dressed there B squad against Everton and lost the game in the FA Cup . It was an entertaining match for 0-0 after 120 minutes . Are they not as good as they're thought to be ?

[TheRiddick]

If you think ManU's youngsters are not that good by taking the game to Everton's squad, then I am not sure what game you were watching. Everton's first corner came in the 73rd minute, they had what, 2 shots on goal the entire game, while United had a few chances and one clear penalty denied (one of the "not as good" youngsters, BTW). FA Cup is not what it sued to be, United certainly didn't have to "have" the game in order to qualify for ECL next year and the pitch was terrible by any standard, why risk any of your best players. The only mistake Freguson made was sub Macheda in the end in the hopes that Berbatov will score the penalty kick. Did I ever say here just how much I dislike Berbatov?

[TheRiddick]

Oh, and I forgot to add that Ferguson most likely will have a loooooong talk with Foster and his idiotic thinking on the pitch, he put the team in jeopardy on two occasions with simply stupid and very childish decision making. Actually, for anyone even with half a brain those would not have been "decisions" to begin with. That was the only serious mistake Ferguson made, IMO.

[mastershogun]

While I'm no expert , it seems to me that Man U. dressed there B squad against Everton and lost the game in the FA Cup . It was an entertaining match for 0-0 after 120 minutes . Are they not as good as they're thought to be ?

i wouldn't go as far as to say B-team. he did field some great players, maybe not the best team available to him but certainly not a B-team.
props to howard :tu

[mastershogun]

:dance::dance::dance::dance:
Andrei Arshavin (36')
Andrei Arshavin (67')
Andrei Arshavin (70')
Andrei Arshavin (90')
too bad liverpool always manages a late extra-time goal to ruin things :rolleyes:

[TheRiddick]

Just my thought, exactly. If I ever hear Benitez complain about other teams getting preferential treatment, I will hurl. Liverpool have been getting these "mystical" added minutes at the end of games for years now. Where did 7 minutes come from? Just 4 subs (add 2 minutes, standard, OK, maybe another 2minutes for stopages).

I want to see both Pogrebnyak and Zhirkov move over to EPL, Arshavin and Pavlyuchenko are proving that Russian youth academies can produce talent (my father-in-law used to be in charge of one in Moldova). I think these two will be picked up this summer and so will be Dzagoev (17 year old).

This is getting interesting with Chelsea-Everton coming up tomorrow. With United at pretty much full strength again, I do not think Portsmouth will be an issue for them (and hope Berbatov is benched). And Villa can benefit with the top 4 teams losing points. Probably the most interesting EPL finish in the past who knows how many years.

[Bubba - NJ]

The only mistake Freguson made was sub Macheda in the end in the hopes that Berbatov will score the penalty kick. Did I ever say here just how much I dislike Berbatov?

After that penalty kick , I can clearly see why you dislike Berbatov . And I state again that I'm no expert , I've only recently found these matches on live tv in NJ and I'm still trying to learn all the different rules for the many tournaments/Cups . I think I would rather miss the goal like Cahill did then hit a dribbler like Berbatov . It did seem to me that Everton were playing mostly defense with an occasional long ball attempt to Cahill .

[TheRiddick]

Berbatov is the direct opposite to what United stand for: he is lazy, doesn't try to get the ball back when he loses it, and with the exception of the Porto game doesn't track back to defend. I am simply tired of hearing people tell me that I "don't get Berbatov" and his play making ability, the fact is that with his arrival United went from top scoring team to barely scoring one, he was the only arival last summer and just much things have changed since. This season is on him and I can only be thankful to the defensive line that we are still on top of the league.

Isnt it scary when United youth academy brings the game to the 6th best team in the league? Fabio twins will be monsters in another season or two and Macheda will step up as well. I found it interesting that all of Macheda's passes were pinpoint on and had Wellback played better they would scored at least a couple. Wellback is OK, but once again showed he is a step too slow and a few pounds too light to play in EPL, at least for now. Too bad that Wellback could not reciprocate the precision of passes to Macheda, I'd love to see Macheda play for 90 minutes next to Ronaldo and Rooney.

Anyway, one down (Arsenal-Liverpool) and one to go (Chelsea-Everton), although I think Chelsea will win 2-0. United should be 2-0 as well, at least I hope they are.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Bloody hell! at the end of the match I was screaming DO NOT LET HIM HAVE THE EFFING BALL!!!!!!!!!!!! but NO one would listen to me... his screamers to the right side netting and his counter attack goals were spectacular... i wish they were against United, but good lord, Liverpool's defense has been shite the past 3 weeks.

[TheRiddick]

If you watch Arshavin's goals (YouTube, although you may need to search in Russian language) in the past 2 seasons of the Russian Premier League you'll see just how skilled he is, some are spectacular. His link up with Pogrebnyak was as lethal as anything I've seen in Europe and if Arsenal buy Porgebnyak they can easily get rid of Bendtner and the like. What is strange is that Liverpool defense gave him tons of space, that actually is coach's error, IMO, no matter how much Benitez wants to put it on players, I'd be calling a defender or a midfielder over after the first goal and giving them a "personal" assignmnt of shadowing the guy no matter where he is on the pitch.

[Bubba - NJ]

I did notice how settled Macheda and the Fabio twins were when in posession of the ball . Highly skilled youngsters . :tu

[TheRiddick]

Interesting to see Berbatov missing from today's game, hopefully SAF had a good talk with him and explained the meaning of life for a United player to him and what it means to be one. Better yet, the rest of the players should explain it to him.

And with Carrick just scoring United's 2nd the game seems to be done with and Liverpool are back to second place. I'll be lighting up a nice cigar tonight.

[Jason]

His link up with Pogrebnyak was as lethal as anything I've seen in Europe

I was saying this very same thing talking with aldukes a day or 2 ago saying they looked lethal like Shevchenko and Rebrov at Dynamo Kiev. I always wonder about these kinds of dreamy partnerships, if you took them out of the machine they were playing in and plunked them, as a pair, into another team/machine/system, do they still perform dreamily? My pick of Russia in the Euros suffered big time when Progrebnyak went out injured right before the tournament, this much is certain.

Never got to see with Sheva and Rebrov but I second the motion to have Progrebnyak at Arsenal

[TheRiddick]

Pogrebnyak is a different player than Arshavin, style wise, but just as lethal. One is mostly a creator (AA), the other one is a finisher (Pogrebnyak).

And then there is Zhirkov, one of the best left wingers in the world today, only Robbrn can compete with him (when healthy).

[aldukes]

(I'm not sure ManU defense can deal with the Arsenal offense for 3 games in a row) :confused:

Good thing Arse plays no defense.

[TheRiddick]

(I'm not sure ManU defense can deal with the Arsenal offense for 3 games in a row) :confused:

Good thing Arse plays no defense.

I am a United fan for the past 16 years now, so what do I know? Without AA playing in the 2 CL games we should be fine, IMO, especially now that the entire defensive line is back with room to spare (Wes Brown coming back). I am still worried about the front line, though, we still create a ton of chances and yet can only convert a few. I do hope Berbatov rides the bench for the rest of the campaign, we need all 11 on the pitch in every remaining game.

[aldukes]

I am a United fan for the past 16 years now, so what do I know? Without AA playing in the 2 CL games we should be fine, IMO, especially now that the entire defensive line is back with room to spare (Wes Brown coming back). I am still worried about the front line, though, we still create a ton of chances and yet can only convert a few. I do hope Berbatov rides the bench for the rest of the campaign, we need all 11 on the pitch in every remaining game.

I'm not sure Rio is fit enough for the upcoming sched. Same with Wes Brown. I hate to say this, but Vidic is lost when Rio is out. Evra has been solid for pretty much the whole year- just a few bad games lately.

I think they should be safe in the Prem- but the CL should be interesting.

[TheRiddick]

I'm not sure Rio is fit enough for the upcoming sched. Same with Wes Brown. I hate to say this, but Vidic is lost when Rio is out. Evra has been solid for pretty much the whole year- just a few bad games lately.

I think they should be safe in the Prem- but the CL should be interesting.

Have to disagree on Vidic having been playing either center back or left back all my life. Like I said above somewhere, once you start thinking your partner is not up to par (Evans in this case) your entire game changes whether you like it or not since you now think for two people and expect to bail the other out. Evans has shown great ability and promise for the future, but as can be seen lately, physical and mental fatigue did him in eventually. Last game they did really well without Rio, not that Portsmouth was giving them much to think about (just 2 shots on goal in second half). If anything, I'll take Vidic over Rio, Rio has made plenty of mistakes over last 2 seasons. Rio started his career playing attacker, he is a converted center back, although a great one.

Rio is fully fit at this point. Wes still needs a game or two to get up to full speed. Evra played 2-3 poor games, but I expect him to be up to it for the remaining ones. Plus, Fabio seems to be healthy and should help Evra out in some games. At least Anderson is back and Fletcher is healthy (can't recall the last game United lost with Fletcher starting).

I am still worried about Spurs this weekend, United really need to start scoring like they did last season.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Aldukes, how is your spring season going? Team Pittman was barely beaten 2-1 by The Arsenal of Huntsville, two cheap goals from poor defending left the keeper (me) high and dry. One of my defenders gave me hell about it at half time, so I said "stud, here's the gloves go do better" and I went to take on my preferred position of Center Attacking Mid. Not only did We play much better with a bloody competent midfielder but actually had some attacking options and scored a goal. Did I mention I scored the goal?(I never score, so I'll give the wonderous details as it won't happen again) Picked the pocket of their midfielder right at half field, gave the ball to my R Winger who promptly returned it to me 10 yards up the pitch. Striker 1 called for the ball facing me. I played it to him and moved up he played me square and I turned my back to the goal to hold up play for the Dmid who was no where to be found, so as the ball comes to me from my left I flicked it past my left leg with my right foot and megged (luck) the Defender who was bodying up on me. I ran past him expecting to be run over by the right back(stupid fast) but he was running with striker 1 with his back to me... me n the keeper 30 yards of ground. Did my best fernando Torres impression of speed (which is laughable) keeper came out low, so I hit it high, goal. Grabbed the ball returned it to the spot. I was happy. My only other chance came when striker 2 took the ball down the left wing, and cut in and laid it back to me 23-24 yards out. Tried my best Steven Gerrard impression and it curled barely wide right. After all that running I subbed myself. managed 29 minutes total in the field after not playing there for 5 weeks, and being really out of shape. Problem is now I don't have a keeper as the defender who chastised me says he won't play it anymore... any ideas?

Current record for Misfits FC is 1-2-1 total of 5 points, out of 4 matches. With 7 Goals for 7 goals against. Next week, the first place Ta Sety Warriors who are currently 6-0-0.

[aldukes]

Team Dukes is actually playing well this season. You wouldn't know it by our record, but we've improved drastically over last fall. We're -6 in goal diff- but thats because we've scored 5 goals in 4.5 games. Yes theres a half there. The friggin lights shut off in the middle of the game- we were leading 1-0 at that point, about 50 min in. The league is making us finish up the last 31 min.
Our keeper was out for a few games, with kidney stones, but he will be joining us this week. First game of the season was a draw against the team that won 2 years ago and placed second last year. Our last game was against the best team in the league. I had the pleasure of marking some dude that came up in the youth system for a very famous team in Spain (think RM). We came back from 1-0 and 2-1 but the dude scored from about 25 out with 4 min left.
We have a tough stretch for the next three weeks, but we should gain a point. Oh, and our right mid had to go back to Italy due to visa issues.

record- *1-3-1 *the game that isnt finished
own goals- none, but an assist
wide open goals missed- 2
free kicks send over the fence from 45 out- 1
times I fouled the dude from RM in one game- 14
drunk refs- 1 dude kept time on his cell phone, didnt have cards, referred to a goal kick as a "kick ball"

[TheRiddick]

Aldukes, where in Brooklyn do you play? I used to play for the corporate league, years ago, all major companies in Manhattan had a team back then. And usually weekends (both Sat and Sun) on Brighton Beach with a bunch of Russians, those wer epretty tough games ability level wise.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

\
drunk refs- 1 dude kept time on his cell phone, didnt have cards, referred to a goal kick as a "kick ball"

damn! I thought my refs were bad.

[reggiebuckeye]

ManU can really ruin a day. Things were looking great around 1:30 when it was 2-0 to the Spurs. 5-2? Come on. They can't put it on the penalty. That was one stinking goal. They just gave up when they still had the lead. Then a sub at 85 minutes? Why? Horrible. All I need now is for the draft to make my day even worse. I need a good smoke.

[TheRiddick]

Well, I thought it may be one of those days for United, plenty of ball and game control and some really good chances in first half with nothing to show. First goal was all Rio (no wonder I said above how much I prefer Vidic to him), second was all Rafael leaving Modric in acres of space (and he paid the price by being subbed, needs to concentrate more plus Modric owned him a number of times today).

Penalty? Only someone not playing the game can claim it was not, the only question was a red card or yellow. Gomes FIRST tripped Carrick and only then barely touched the ball with his finger tips, had it been in reverse (touch the ball first) we would not be discussing this at all as there would not be a penalty.

Nani will probably be gone this summer, have no idea how someone with so much talent can't make a simple pass. Berbatov actually crossed a few times into his own half to defend, a miracle! Ronaldo did so consistently after SAF's ripping him a new one last week, second game in the row now. Evra is playing the worst stretch of games (4 now?) in his carreer, have no idea what's going on in his head. No wonder United just bought a 17 year Brazilian for that spot, should be interesting next year.

Chelsea, although in full control of the game, got lucky in the end. Liverpool had an easy game, as much as I like Hull's spirit they were no match at all.

Bring on the Gunners!

[reggiebuckeye]

I'm not arguing whether it was a penalty or not. He did get the player first. My point is Tottenham stopped playing after that happened. They still had a 2-1 lead after that. They just gave up. Giving up 5 goals in a half is ridiculous.

As an Arsenal fan, I'm looking forward to seeing ManU this week.

[TheRiddick]

Spurs had what, 3 chances on goal in the first half? Converted two of them and only due to blatant mismarking by Rio (too lazy to take another step towards the ball and simply waiting for it to come to him) and then Rafael (leaving Modric all alone and doing I have no idea what in the middle of the box when Vidic was already there). United were in full control all game long with just a few exceptions, at least in the game I watched. Spurs didn't "give up", they were simply outplayed and out muscled, you can only play defense for so long and then your legs get tired eventually. Most of the play took place in Spurs half all day long, especially after the 2nd half started and they had 9 men behind the ball for 15+ minutes, why did anyone expect that pressure not to produce something once United plugged one of the outlets for Spurs' attacks (Nani's bad game) and then the other (Rafael)?

Keane was really quiet all game long, that should say something about the game in general and lack of opportunity in front for Spurs (Bent did have great effort on goal in the second half). Evra presented a few opportunities to Spurs, but that's about it, both goals came from his side of the pitch. Have no idea if Pavlyuchenko would have altered the game or not, but he wasn't even on the bench today, that was stupid, IMO. Tells me they came to play defense and take their chances, the result is exactly the one they deserved for the strategy selected, IMO. Italians are masters at that, but this is not Italian league.

If Gunners create just 4 chances next week, as they did with 'Pool, I am all for it :D At least Ade and Van Persie should be back, although defense is still very suspect.

[TheRiddick]

Forgot to add that Ledley King was billed prior to the game as the best CB in the league, if not Europe. Right...

[reggiebuckeye]

I didn't see the first half, so I can't comment on that. I do know I am truly amazed at teams that bunker down after getting a lead thinking they will hold on for a half. That makes no sense to me. Yes, they did luck up on their goals, but some pressure keeps the other team from just going to an all out attack and coming back.

As far as Cl goes, we will see. Gallas and Clichy going down has really hurt us defensively. I hope they can fix it. I see why you all let Silvestre walk.

[TheRiddick]

Silvestre was good a few years ago, no doubt about it. The guy had speed, heart and understood the game, but like all things, there is a point of diminishing returns. I think he'd still be a United player had he not request to leave.

[Jason]

ATTN Metrosexuals and Mancs, Ferdy's got a lifestyle magazine (http://5magazine.rioferdinand.com/1Q49ef81308d19e012.cde)

good for a Monday laugh :)

[aldukes]

ATTN Metrosexuals and Mancs,

yes?

[Jason]

yes?

lifetime subscriber^

[theycallmedan'lboone]

If Gunners create just 4 chances next week, as they did with 'Pool, I am all for it :D At least Ade and Van Persie should be back, although defense is still very suspect.

Not if they do the same with them that they did to us.

by the way, If you ever want to watch some absolute shite football watch Newcastle v Pompey. I think there were three legitimate chances the entire match. 1 of them came from David James dropping the ball on Viduka's foot.

[TheRiddick]

Yeah, except Arshavin won't be there to make those chances :D I can convert more chances than Ade can and with Van Persie now confirmed as injured and unable to play in the first game, I see no reason to be alarmed. Fabregas, Nasri and Walcott can all create, but as finishers go, only Fabregas is OK. And Arsenal's back line is very suspect now, while United's is back to its normal self with only Evra needing some serious rest, the games should be interesting to say the least.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

arsenal does seem to step it up against the big clubs though... time will tell. :rolleyes:

Good luck, I want ManU to stay in the CL as long as possible...:al

[TheRiddick]

Oh, BTW, I never liked Shearer as a player, very dirty and one dimensional, IMO. With all the hoopla surrounding his "return" to the club, I hope they are relegated so that the management can assess the situation properly and hire someone who can actually coach them back to EPL.

[GTsetGO]

anyone else see this fluke goal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RSpVaL9EjE

[theycallmedan'lboone]

anyone else see this fluke goal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RSpVaL9EjE



yeah espn showed it in the top 10 plays this AM. Commentator was a moron. made it seem like he tried to do it... sure he didn't mind but the goal wasn't his intention.


riddick, The local soccer shop guy and I discussed the Newcastle/Shearer thing, and we both agreed not the best idea for a manager. I don't know why but I have this soft spot in my heart for Newcastle... you know kinda like the lovable Chicago Cubs... :rolleyes:

[TheRiddick]

I like Newcastle, they usually are a gritty team and everyone works hard, but Shearer, as a player, never made me sit back and enjoy unless one loves watching goons play. Along with Dennis Wise and Vinnie Jones, probably the third dirtiest player in England.

I never understood the decision to bring him in as a manager, he was not a "deal changer" in his playing career and I am not sure he understands the game that much. I want them to stay up, but the only way to get rid of Shearer as a manager is for them to drop.

[TheRiddick]

Chelsea just parked the bus and decided not to chase the ball across this vast Nou Camp pitch. Should be a completely different game next week when Chelsea won't have to chase and Barca players will find themselves in much closer quarters without all the acres of empty space. Chech did well today with a just a couple of errors. Essien and Mikel were very quiet. And for all that possesion Barca had, they had nothing really to show for it.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Barca impressed, if all they had to do was maintain possession. Chelsea looked quite content to let them have it. Petr Chech earned is pay check with a few quality saves, although 'voyer's cast-off hleb should have kept his head' and the open header the kid had should have put it away, but much to their chagrin. I think the game is fully in Chelsea's court at their home with their plastic flags and 'atmosphere', but I think if they push forward messi, henry and eto'o will make them pay.

[aldukes]

Barca impressed, if all they had to do was maintain possession. Chelsea looked quite content to let them have it. Petr Chech earned is pay check with a few quality saves, although 'voyer's cast-off hleb should have kept his head' and the open header the kid had should have put it away, but much to their chagrin. I think the game is fully in Chelsea's court at their home with their plastic flags and 'atmosphere', but I think if they push forward messi, henry and eto'o will make them pay.

:r:r:r

[TheRiddick]

Chelsea will play a different game at home. Their field size is MUCH smaller than Camp Nou and they won't have to chase the ball muh, as a matter of fact, Barca players will find themselves in too close proximity to Essien's, Job Obi's and Malouda's tackles. Barca had not faced a physical team yet this year and their much smaller size will be their downfall, Messi, Eto'o or whoever else. They couldn't create much at home, not sure they can do so away. I think Chelsea will exploit the size advantage at home and simply keep crossing into the box with the likes of Drogba and Anelka winning every header. Let's not forget that Puyol cannot play next game, he's their best defender by far and that will also play a part of the mental game.

Arsenal got REALLY lucky today. That said, and since I am already seeing online reports of a "slim" lead, I can only say that ManU will provide more of the same next week. Arsenal could not cope tonight, don't see what is going to change for them next week even with van Persie able to play (that means one of their mids cannot). They seemed slower than ManU and the telling sign was that Ade had just one attempt on goal in 82 minutes of play. That's domination and game was nothing but.

At least a much more entertaning encounter than last night's. And so much for Wenger's promise of an "open play", they had at least 9 men behind the ball all game long. BS and showed how much they are scared of ManU.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Team Pittman update:

*cue espn theme*

After a week of build up for a clash with the top team in the league who WERE un-beaten and un-tied. Misfits FC scored courtesy of some spectacular striking and a intsy little bit of a big boot up the pitch by moi. moments before the first half ended a dubious penalty *think MU v Totnhm x 5 * was given. Shot was to my right and I palmed it away... only to have the official who obviously has never seen the dudek dance declared 'you were over your line' re-taken and he tried to fool me with a stutter step( he also cried.. alot similar yes? ) again to my right, dove (slipped) and it went off my fingers and in. I was bitterly disappointed but continued on in high spirts I had a total of 19 saves on the evening, it has been my best game yet. Score ended 1-1, and ruined these dirty little bastardo's perfect season. On a completely different note this team hails mainly from the Middle East and is primarily (if not 100%) muslim. I informed their team captain that if any one of their players ever tells my fiance (who plays striker and told one of their players to '**** off' when he fouled her) to learn her place. I'm going to bury him in the center circle.

[TheRiddick]

... I'm going to bury him in the center circle.

Wrapped in a pig skin :D

Is this a co-ed league?

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Wrapped in a pig skin :D

Is this a co-ed league?

don't put extra ideas in me head lad!

yes it is coed... the team we played against had a very talented split-tail, uglier than my dog, but talented. My better half is at least good looking and pretty good with a ball...:rolleyes:

[TheRiddick]

'Pool are running out of time, it seems. With Newcastle in desperate mood I won't be surprised with them tomorrow if the game ends in a draw, even a point is priceless at this stage.

Barca are playing Real tomorrow, will be interesting to see how they do and if they escape without further injuries to key players with Puyol not able to play on Wed. Pique did great I last game, but Puyol was their best defender by far and Drigba just might have an easier go at Pique this time.

[Jason]

'Pool are running out of time, it seems. With Newcastle in desperate mood I won't be surprised with them tomorrow if the game ends in a draw, even a point is priceless at this stage.

that's more optimism than Dowie and Shearer can muster I imagine. Goin down

[theycallmedan'lboone]

2-0 in the second with Barton being sent off, it's over. The EPL race isn't over as there are still games to play, but United are driving, and it is theirs to lose.

[TheRiddick]

As much as I would like to see Newcastle stay up, as already discussed, I am glad Shearer is suffering through this, couldn't happen to a better guy. The "savior" is nothing but.

United still have some tricky games left, I am hoping they are not celebrating yet and given the reports I've read they seem to be well grounded to take this for granted.

[TheRiddick]

Refs should be all tested for drugs! I can't imagine one missing out on an obvious clean play by Fletcher, but 2 of them? So much for Arsenal's supposed ability and all the bravura by the players in the in the past 2 days, when push came to shove they looked like kids and on numerous occasions like thugs (Fabregas). I only wish the ref does the right thing and rescinds the red card, as he should.

Not a fan of Chelsea, but will be hoping they win tomorrow after all the whining by Barca players after last game. If they are so good, as they claim, how come they could not score even once?

[aldukes]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/07/article-1178183-04D5E5FF000005DC-558_468x321.jpg

[Jdbwolverines]

''It's a f****** disgrace!''

That made me laugh. That referring was horrendous. As much as I hate Drogba, I do feel for him in this situation. I understand blowing a call during an in game situation, but over and over like that is just unacceptable. Barcelona got their butts kicked that whole match, and for them to advance is just wrong. I have never rooted for ManU in my my whole life, but I hope they destroy Barcelona in Rome.

[mastershogun]

''It's a f****** disgrace!''

That made me laugh. That referring was horrendous. As much as I hate Drogba, I do feel for him in this situation. I understand blowing a call during an in game situation, but over and over like that is just unacceptable. Barcelona got their butts kicked that whole match, and for them to advance is just wrong. I have never rooted for ManU in my my whole life, but I hope they destroy Barcelona in Rome.


I won't say the ref was totally in barca's favor. He did give a questionable red against barca. also, the previous game henry had a foul that was not called. totally don't agree with you on the butt kicking. Barca maintained possession some 60-70%. If chelsea was in such control where was it shown?.. especially against a team that is not as strong, tall, lacking first team centerbacks, having a keeper who is weak on crosses, missing a first team striker, etc. if anything ballack should have been sent off for his craziness.
Having said this, i thought chelsea was going to the final but guess not.
Hiddink did play a good game but not enough with the away goal rule

[Jdbwolverines]

I agree with you that the red was questionable and that last game Chelsea pry did have more calls go their way than Barca. However, to miss what I would say was clearly 2, maybe even 3 or 4 penalty kicks is bad, especially in a game that close. While Barca may have also lead in ball possession, they had very few true scoring threats. Chelsea should have however capitalized on more of their chances to make sure 1 away goal would loose it for them, especially after Barca went a man down. The prevent defense only prevents you from winning.

[Jason]

Barca maintained possession some 60-70%.

Sometimes possession means nothing, for the most part it just indicates a style of play in my opinion.

If chelsea was in such control where was it shown?

In Barca's lack of offensive threat. Offensive threat is how Barca is defined and they showed very little of it over either leg. Controlled.

Hard luck to Chelsea but I'd much rather see a Barca vs. Manchester United final truth be told! Hope that ref never leaves Norway on UEFA's dime again.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Well at least I got something right.. barca v united... I expect Barca will actually show up for the final. However I predict United to be too strong. 2-1 Rooney and the ginger ninja put 'em away. Messi pulls one back late. Now I need Arsenal to revenge themselves upon United, and Chelsea to make up for last year.

[TheRiddick]

As already stated, Barca showed NOTHING save for one player, Iniesta. The much touted duo of Messi and Eto'o were KIDS playing a man's game, they had no speed nor talent to break through and create chances. If anything, Chelsea, even with just 30%+ possession created WAY more chances to score. Possesion means nothing in the grand scheme of things, Chelsea played a very tactical game and the first 20 minutes of second half, when they decided to play attacking football, it was Barca who had no answers and were lucky enough to have an idiot for a ref. Have no idea how UEFA selects officials, but then again, the last thing Platini wanted was to have yet another all English final. Platini should resign and stay away from any decision making, he is a discriminatory idiot, no matter his prior accomplishments.

As for the final, Barca were shown that they cannot play a fast, physical game and United should have an easy time, IMO. 2 of Barca's back line are out and if they could not cope with Chelsea's attack (Drogba and Anelka are not really that good a pair), then coping with a full brunt of Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez and Berbatov will be a whole new story, and I do expect them all to play at least part of the game. I think both Scoles and Giggs will start in the mid to make history and appreciate their years with the club, along with Carrick and Anderson, then Scoles and Giggs will make way for Park and Tevez, at least that's how I'd play them, infuse great energy of Park and Tevez against (by then) tired Barca legs. Barca are good in Spain and nowhere else.

[Jason]

Barca are good in Spain and nowhere else.

I think I disagree with 90% of your post but this is just just crazy talk. As much as Chelsea stopped Barca playing their game, Barca did the exact same thing, and all they had to do was show up ;)

I think United have to be favorites, less chinks in the armor but United will have a time shutting down the attack. It will be interesting to see just how cautiously they take things

[mastershogun]

Sometimes possession means nothing, for the most part it just indicates a style of play in my opinion.

In Barca's lack of offensive threat. Offensive threat is how Barca is defined and they showed very little of it over either leg. Controlled.


But that is my point... barca plays possession game... they don't play a little possession with long passes or rely on set piece kind of game. they played the kind of game they wanted to play. sure the final third was missing big time but to claim that chelsea dominated the game i would say that chelsea would have to bump barca off "their game"... which is possession. The game barca plays is not "a lot of goals" game... that is the kind of game every team wants but sometimes you only get 1 goal. The "barca game" is possession and possession they had. They did play an offensive game... they were not playing defense 60-70% of the time. They were playing offensive 60-70% of the time... again, maybe not in the final third but nonetheless offense.
I am not saying this was one of barca's better games by a long shot!

[TheRiddick]

Jason,

You're saying it doesn't take skill, and lots of it, to deny a highly touted team such as Barca, a goal for what, 170 minutes of play? Please tell me you're kidding. If anything, Barca should feel extremely lucky that all Chelsea has as a striker is the like of Drogba, any other striker would have killed the game a long time before. How many chances did Barca create for all the possession they had over he 2 games? Not many, by any count, and the likes of Messi and Eto'o can only score on teams that allow them to roam freely wherever they want. EPL is a whole new paradigm, no wonder they dominate CL for the past few years and Platini is doing everything in his power to stop that. I am convinced now the ref knew what he had to do on orders from UEFA's office, there is no other explanation possible, no one is that blind and stupid all in one.

A great team will break down any opposing defense. Barca proved they cannot accompish that. Not over just one game, but over 2. Both Messi and Eto'o will have even harder time against United, where Chelsea's game plan allowed Barca players time on the ball, United will be very, very different and save for Iniesta, who played balls out in the second half yesterday, no one else on Barca had any clue what to do with the ball, possession or not. They also showed just how inept they were with Chelsea's counter attacks and United are WAY quicker and deadlier in that respect. Rooney will eat Messi alive on that left side, Carrick should do fine shadowing Iniesta. That leaves who to do what? Eto'o? He's clueless when he is not allowed time on the ball. Henry? Maybe, he's a step or two slower than in his best days, but may be dangerous if given space. That's about it.

Possession is meaningful if you can SCORE. If not, what does "possession" mean? Possession all over the place but the last third is useless and meaningless, and Barca did just that. I'll gladly save my energy by letting you run all over the place for most of the game as long as I know you're nowhere near a scoring chance nor able to create one. That's called experience and tactical advantage. I play with a guy who literally runs circles around entire teams, incredible stamina and speed, and for all of that and his great skill on the ball, we learned he is actually a player that is better off NOT on your team as you'll loose more often than not. Possession is a stat with no meaning. Playing "beautiful" footy means nothing, WINNING is the point of the game last time I checked (look at Italy's record in World and European Cups).

Look up my prediction some time ago when I said that I will not be surprised with an all EPL final, I pretty much nailed it save for dubious officiating (something that is not predictable). I also said that Barca will face a very different opponent than they did in CL all season long. Overall, I'd rather see United play Barca than Chelsea, on paper, at least, I will easily take United.

[Jason]

The "barca game" is possession and possession they had. They did play an offensive game... they were not playing defense 60-70% of the time. They were playing offensive 60-70% of the time... again, maybe not in the final third but nonetheless offense. I am not saying this was one of barca's better games by a long shot!

I don't consider square passing in the backline and through the midfield with zero penetration as being offensive. I understand where you're coming from, there are a LOT of people that feel exactly the same way you do about it, I'm just not one of them.

Jason,

You're saying it doesn't take skill, and lots of it, to deny a highly touted team such as Barca, a goal for what, 170 minutes of play? Please tell me you're kidding. If anything, Barca should feel extremely lucky that all Chelsea has as a striker is the like of Drogba, any other striker would have killed the game a long time before. How many chances did Barca create for all the possession they had over he 2 games? Not many, by any count, and the likes of Messi and Eto'o can only score on teams that allow them to roam freely wherever they want. EPL is a whole new paradigm, no wonder they dominate CL for the past few years and Platini is doing everything in his power to stop that. I am convinced now the ref knew what he had to do on orders from UEFA's office, there is no other explanation possible, no one is that blind and stupid all in one.

Lot's more crazy talk. Listen, I'm not getting on your tits so please don't take it that way, you're just saying a lot of things that are subjective as if your opinion is The Way, and putting words in my mouth.

I said nothing about the skill it takes to shut down Barca, not kidding either obviously, simply didn't address it. I admire the tactics and execution of Chelsea in fact and believe they should have won the 2 legged tie on merit, I leaned towards them to win it as well but conceded the game could go either way.

I agree with the 6+5 support/Platini's sentiments to a large degree. I'd like to see domestic leagues somewhat representative of the nation they are supposedly representing. If no then go the other direction and create the European Super League, I'm good with either. Success of a domestic league in Europe has historically followed the money and since the EU rulings that abolished the "3 foreigners" rule it's been amplified to ridiculous levels.

This ref is a toolbag but I don't believe in any conspiracy theory. If he had been payed-off he would not have sent off Abidal while Barca was down, that seems enough like hard evidence to debunk those claims. He is the same knob that gave Romania a non-existant penalty and disallowed a good Italian goal in the Euro 2008 Italy/Romania match. He was not allowed to ref another match. Why he was allowed to ref this one I don't know, he's clearly not up to it.

A great team will break down any opposing defense. Barca proved they cannot accompish that.

Oh but they did, they kept their heads and belief and scored in the 93rd to advance to the final. I agree that United will not miss the chances that Chelsea did if they make them.

Eto'o? He's clueless when he is not allowed time on the ball.

Eto'o is fast and accurate, rarely scores goals after a considerable amount of time on the ball. He's a damn good finsher, I think you underrate him.

I play with a guy who literally runs circles around entire teams, incredible stamina and speed, and for all of that and his great skill on the ball, we learned he is actually a player that is better off NOT on your team as you'll loose more often than not.

Played with plenty of guys like that and understand where you're coming from. Tht guy is good for your team tho if you keep it positive with him and encourage him to do the right thing: play the way you're facing, hit the quick simple ball and move off it. This kind of player can keep the other team turning to adjust and a hole eventually opens

That's more than I ever want to gab about soccer on an internet forum, my fingers are tired.

[aldukes]

This thread needs more JOZY.

I'd take him over eto'o any day.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I think it's the ears that slow him down.
(although megging john terry on a dead run and save Alex running him down would have scored in the first game)

[Lumpold]

I agree with the 6+5 support/Platini's sentiments to a large degree. I'd like to see domestic leagues somewhat representative of the nation they are supposedly representing. If no then go the other direction and create the European Super League, I'm good with either. Success of a domestic league in Europe has historically followed the money and since the EU rulings that abolished the "3 foreigners" rule it's been amplified to ridiculous levels.
See... now... here's the problem... while given the fact that all the member states field a national team makes it seem different... the 'no more than 3 foreigners' rule as it was worded was like saying 'no more than 3 players from out of state' for MLS teams - the EU is designed to act like the US, member states with autonomous control ruled by useless bureaucratic ashwipes. You can still "discriminate" you've just got to discriminate against non-EU nationals. However, thanks to the Kolpak ruling, this also means countries with a certain level of trade agreement with the EU also count.
Certain leagues in Europe still practice this (La Liga is no more than 3 non EU nationals on pitch per team, I think)

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Certain leagues in Europe still practice this (La Liga is no more than 3 non EU nationals on pitch per team, I think)

I've seen Henry, Eto'o, Messi and Toure all on the pitch at the same time...

[Lumpold]

I've seen Henry, Eto'o, Messi and Toure all on the pitch at the same time...
Henry is french! Also, through his grandparents (I believe) Messi has Italian citizenship, meaning he's an EU national.

[Don Fernando]

I've seen Henry, Eto'o, Messi and Toure all on the pitch at the same time...

and that makes 3 non EU players :)

[TheRiddick]

Messi, and many others playing in EU, use their ancestry BS to claim whatever place they feel like as their own. Hargreaves, for example, claims English citizenship, for example, since his grandparents (or whoever) came from England who knows when. Same for Messi and a ton of other Argentine and Brazilian players who claim Italian or Portuguese roots for one reason or another.

I am all for the 6/5 rule, but unless FIFA/UEFA change this STUPIDITY with fake naturalization claims, they should not in any way insist on the rule. Clean up your own house first. I know same rule is used in Olympics and that's why half of what used to be USSR sportsmen are now playing all over the world. Poland has a Brazilian born player on its national team, another Brazilian got Russian citizenship in recent years to do the same. Its stupid and sports committees really need to clean up the rules first.

If this rule passes, I am taking ALL bets that all the nations will then quickly issue citizenship to whoever needs one to ply their trade there. It is done now anyway, on a small scale, but if FIFA/UEFA want to expedite matters, then they will only open a Pandorra's Box and make the situation even worse.
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On a more serious and important note, Iniesta seems to be done for the season, Henry may not play in Rome as well. Add another suspended player and an injured one, and all of a sudden Barcelona may have to play the likes of Hleb in Rome. Doesn't look good, not that Hleb is not a good player but he is not Iniesta, and if United beat Barca, as they should even with Barca at full strength, we won't hear the end of excuses for the next 10 years.

[Lumpold]

Messi, and many others playing in EU, use their ancestry BS to claim whatever place they feel like as their own. Hargreaves, for example, claims English citizenship, for example, since his grandparents (or whoever) came from England who knows when. Same for Messi and a ton of other Argentine and Brazilian players who claim Italian or Portuguese roots for one reason or another.

I am all for the 6/5 rule, but unless FIFA/UEFA change this STUPIDITY with fake naturalization claims, they should not in any way insist on the rule. Clean up your own house first. I know same rule is used in Olympics and that's why half of what used to be USSR sportsmen are now playing all over the world. Poland has a Brazilian born player on its national team, another Brazilian got Russian citizenship in recent years to do the same. Its stupid and sports committees really need to clean up the rules first.

If this rule passes, I am taking ALL bets that all the nations will then quickly issue citizenship to whoever needs one to ply their trade there. It is done now anyway, on a small scale, but if FIFA/UEFA want to expedite matters, then they will only open a Pandorra's Box and make the situation even worse.


Unfortunately, like I said, a ruling called the Kolpak Ruling has made it impossible for UEFA to address the problem - There are a bucket load (like 40) countries covered by the ACP Treaty (Between African, Caribbean and Pacific countries and the EU) that means as we have a free trade agreement with them, to limit the number of their nationals who can play on a sports team would, apparently, be breaking this treaty.

As for the repatriation of players for national team purposes... well, this has been happening for years... most countries have a specific amount of time for naturalisation - 5 years residence gives a passport, and this is all FIFA wants from people playing on a national team - either a passport or a grandparent.

[Jason]

It's a new world order. Welcome to Earth. Not sure how I feel about that

[theycallmedan'lboone]

eh. I don't really care.

[GTsetGO]

Man U EPL Champs.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/images/smilies/rock_on.gif

[aldukes]

be champions.
Boone owes me lunch.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I do?

[TheRiddick]

Barca is going down soon...

[Jason]

I do?

don't cross him, the kid takes his lunch very seriously

[aldukes]

I do?

In good faith you should.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

did we make a bet? haha, you come down this way, I'll bring you a few cigars and take you to the best barbeque joint in the South.

[Jason]

found this amusing

http://i40.tinypic.com/30sa4b8.gif

[theycallmedan'lboone]

what did you find amusing jason?

[Bubba - NJ]

Finally I have a local team - The Philadelphia Union is born . Named after the original 13 States of what is now the U.S.A. They will play in the MLS - I can't wait .

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Finally I have a local team - The Philadelphia Union is born . Named after the original 13 States of what is now the U.S.A. They will play in the MLS - I can't wait .
nice! i wish i had a local team. i would settle for the MLS
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[theycallmedan'lboone]

Well boys update from Huntsville, The season has been cut short due to the outrageous (and needed) rain fall we've had down here. 8 games is what it has been limited to. Today was the second to last game of the season against the team that had only scored 3 goals and had never taken points of anyone. Not anymore. As a team we managed to tie and nearly beat the best team in the league, managed to suck some major donkey balls against the worst. Did I mention that the ref was a joke.. oh the defender that made the goalie type diving save? right. anyways. 0-0 final score. I had to make a rough decision and a huge dent in my pride *cough* ego *cough*. I decided that I was no longer fit to captain the team and ceded it to a fellow player. I asked my team to give nominations and at the end of next week, vote on it. I am just too competitive to captain a team in the lowest Division. several of the less than talented players don't understand why I make a line change with the best and fastest players on the field in the last 10 minutes. I was asked after the match by one of the females who was pulled, if my extra penis on the field helped score the winning goal, almost did I had a diving header go over and one of the others missed a sitter), being the sarcastic and at that point pissed off replied, well it was a hell of a lot closer than you would have gotten it.. bad idea. I have since apologized, she has yet to accept(don't blame her) so I gave up my armband and said that I will play when and where I am told... I've had a bad week already, this just topped it off. Hopefully. On to the records... Currently we are 1-4-2. Defensively we have been solid all season only allowing 12 goals all season, thus far, but only scoring 8. I have scored 1 goal. I don't know how we're going to work this little contest but I'll come up with something... or not. we'll see.. thanks for letting me vent.

[aldukes]

Team Dukes lost to the worst team in the league last night. That now puts us at bottom table. That's all I have to say about that.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

fantasy league is just about over. One more set of matches.... looks like JDB is going to take them al.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Lads, season has ended, as many predicted United have won their 18th title and are on the verge of being the only team to ever successfully defend the CL crown. I'd rather they not. The season has been one of fantastic goals, heartbreaking losses(and in my cases draws..) Mr Wolverines has taken top spot and if I remember the wager correctly that's 5 cigars from all the participants. If I'm incorrect let me know.

1 Jdbwolverines Jdbwolverines 1477
2 TEAMOFCARRAGHERS Dan'lboone 1429
3 Heritage St. Lou Stu 1346
4 SOS FC yayson 1257
5 Lakeland Wednesday T. Tripoli 1150
6 aldukes aldukes 1113
7 CS Scousers P NOON 1111
8 Buckeye's Bashers reggiebuckeye 1045
9 Leeds Ga. Aracos 1030
10 Trudy Tours TTOURS 835

[pnoon]

Lads, season has ended, as many predicted United have won their 18th title and are on the verge of being the only team to ever successfully defend the CL crown. I'd rather they not. The season has been one of fantastic goals, heartbreaking losses(and in my cases draws..) Mr Wolverines has taken top spot and if I remember the wager correctly that's 5 cigars from all the participants. If I'm incorrect let me know.

1 Jdbwolverines Jdbwolverines 1477
2 TEAMOFCARRAGHERS Dan'lboone 1429
3 Heritage St. Lou Stu 1346
4 SOS FC yayson 1257
5 Lakeland Wednesday T. Tripoli 1150
6 aldukes aldukes 1113
7 CS Scousers P NOON 1111
8 Buckeye's Bashers reggiebuckeye 1045
9 Leeds Ga. Aracos 1030
10 Trudy Tours TTOURS 835

If I remember correctly, too, you are correct. Waiting on a PM with address from Jdbwolverines.

Congrats on winning the league. :wnr

[aldukes]

Anyone want to wager a 5er on tomorrows game. You take Barca- I take ManU.

Side wagers regarding Pep's tie are also welcomed.

[GTsetGO]

i would take the bet, but i am a man u fan.

[Jason]

Anyone want to wager a 5er on tomorrows game. You take Barca- I take ManU.

Side wagers regarding Pep's tie are also welcomed.

tubo for tubo says he doesn't go leather

[theycallmedan'lboone]

tubo for tubo says he doesn't go leather



:r:r:r

aldukey I would, but I haven't won a bet since... well a long time. I shall pass, besides I apparently still owe you lunch.

[TheRiddick]

United fan here as well. I predict a 2-0, United. Can't see Messi doing much with both Park and Rooney tracking him, both of them are more physical and faster. Iniesta, with that hamstring tear is just another even (worse) tear waiting to happen if he plays. Puyol and Eto'o are not showing much in the past month or so, Puyol has been caught out of position time and again. That leaves Toure and Pique, should not be an issue for the much more physical and faster United team, Barcelona could not cope with Chelsea, can't see them doing much against United, they can't even sit back since they do not have the defense to allow them that.

[adampc22]

ha ha ha 2-0 take that man u(scumers) nice one bacalona i new u could do it

[mastershogun]

ha ha ha 2-0 take that man u(scumers) nice one bacalona i new u could do it

:wo

[TheRiddick]

Rio should have not played, he was a step too late and moved with visible pain. Giggs, with his storied career and all, showed nothing. Same for Park (past the first few minutes). If anything, Anderson should have stayed on, Park should have been subbed at the start of second half, Gigs should have been replaced with Scoles as well. This was the worst display for United this year, second only to the Liverpool game. O'Sheay was the best defender tonight. Carrick could not make a pass. Oh well...

Time to offload Ronaldo and bring in an enforcer in the mid field, a Keane clone.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Anyone planning on watching the FIFA Confederations Cup? I think it starts in about 2 weeks.

Brazil Highlights from 2005- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T6VPzOvRrU

I hope Brazil can win again this year.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2006-05/24/xin_010503241148908136915.jpg

[Jdbwolverines]

Lads, season has ended, as many predicted United have won their 18th title and are on the verge of being the only team to ever successfully defend the CL crown. I'd rather they not. The season has been one of fantastic goals, heartbreaking losses(and in my cases draws..) Mr Wolverines has taken top spot and if I remember the wager correctly that's 5 cigars from all the participants. If I'm incorrect let me know.

1 Jdbwolverines Jdbwolverines 1477
2 TEAMOFCARRAGHERS Dan'lboone 1429
3 Heritage St. Lou Stu 1346
4 SOS FC yayson 1257
5 Lakeland Wednesday T. Tripoli 1150
6 aldukes aldukes 1113
7 CS Scousers P NOON 1111
8 Buckeye's Bashers reggiebuckeye 1045
9 Leeds Ga. Aracos 1030
10 Trudy Tours TTOURS 835

Everyone, Sorry for the delay in sending out messages, but I had been gone and then in the process of moving over the last week and half or so. If anyone didn't get a message, let me know. I tried sending them all out at once so there is a decent chance I pry screwed up something. Robert, remember to send me your address for 2nd place.

[Jason]

There's the man of the hour! Congrats brother and enjoy the fruits of your victory

[Jason]

01038555749807130341 DC for the champ

[pnoon]

US vs. Costa Rica in World Cup qualifying.
Game starts in ~15 minute.

Go USA.
:usa:usa:usa

[aldukes]

US vs. Costa Rica in World Cup qualifying.
Game starts in ~15 minute.

Go USA.
:usa:usa:usa


ugh. I need a tums. :mad:

[Jason]

woeful

I had no idea FIFA had OK'd WCQ on turf, and really bad turf at that

[pnoon]

woeful

I had no idea FIFA had OK'd WCQ on turf, and really bad turf at that

The only thing worse was the defending by the US. Just plain horrible. Midfield wasn't much better. They gave CR all the room they wanted and then some.

[mastershogun]

wow... i know US has a terrible record with games at CR but this was just ridiculous :mad:

[aldukes]

Dc: 0308 0070 0001 9474 6751

[mastershogun]

what's people's take on kaka's move? For Milan I think it is the best time to sell him. They will not be going anywhere next year without or without him... might as well make some money off of him with Real's president switch and willingness to buy at high. Good news for dinho is he wants to make his move back into playing form (also doesn't have to share the midfield with becks).
Barca needs to do some reinforcement... sell henry this year and eto next year. Get any money for Hleb and keep Gudjohnson if he will stay. I'd like to see a new GK but no one really good is available right now. If yaya wants to leave get mascherano. don't get fabregas or tez and don't know why pep wants toni... they should go for villa or benzema

also, what are people's thoughts on confederation cup? US has a tough group!

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I hope they buy the diver so he can fit in the fairy league... haha I think kaka will do well, and that AC will not be the same, PATO is already talking about leaving. He could come join my side... I'd be fine with Masch leaving, running Gerrard and Alonso in the middle and then Pato and Torres up top? Deadly I think? yes.

[aldukes]

I hope they buy the diver so he can fit in the fairy league.

That made me chuckle.

the other stuff in your post did too- but for other reasons.

[GTsetGO]

anniversary present from the wife.

Man U jersey signed by the 08/09 squad

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn286/gtsetgo/funstuff/IMG_0691.jpg

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

anniversary present from the wife.

Man U jersey signed by the 08/09 squad

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn286/gtsetgo/funstuff/IMG_0691.jpg

Im not a Man. Un. fan, but that is awesome:tu:tu

[GTsetGO]

now all i have to do is get it framed.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

HELL YEAH! that's awesome! Hobby Lobby has the big box thingys... Spain is running riot on New Zealand. Torres had a hat trick in the first 18 minutes.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

HELL YEAH! that's awesome! Hobby Lobby has the big box thingys... Spain is running riot on New Zealand. Torres had a hat trick in the first 18 minutes.

Great game:tu Im watching the Brazil and Egypt game. 3-3 right now at 67min.

[GTsetGO]

well the USA looked great today.

ooops, meant to say Italy. ;)

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

well the USA looked great today.

ooops, meant to say Italy. ;)

:r

[theycallmedan'lboone]

MY take on the US v Italy.


The US started strong, physical going toe to toe with players like Gattuso, Pirlo and de Rossi. The team had some early chances, some pressure on goal. The defense looked soft and let the Italians make too many dangerous runs. 1 on 1 defending wasn't horrible. Jozy Altidore, when he had the ball at his feet looked dangerous. He and Michael Bradley had two chances that one would figure, one of them would have put it away. I felt that they were not selfish enough, Bradley trying to be cute, and Jozy trying to square to Donovan, when he should have let fly. The US had some poor penalties given away but really the red card was a bit harsh IMHO, but Gattuso's typical Italian antics. Grosso's deliberate elbow to the face of Donovan should have certainly be a sending off. The US seemed to settle down, play aggressive and scored a goal, to say Jozy didn't exaggerate would be a laugh, but he certainly was fouled. The center official was a little inconsistent, some minimal contact would be called for a foul, othertimes a player on both sides would be crushed with no call. Jozy's touch isn't the best to be a lone striker, in fact was so inconsistent with his touches that on the occasions he made a good touch down or laterally his target wasn't ready for it. I hate divers, which explains my hatred for the Italians, even the firey ones like Gattusso. As physical as some of these guys are they are sheer fairies when it comes to anyone touching them. The US Wasted too many chances by over thinking their time on the ball in the final third, I understand that the team needed to control the ball and not waste chances, but we aren't Arsenal and we can't try to walk the ball into the goal. Take shots, take chances, you don't take chances you don't win. The defense started the second half pretty strong physically and on the through runs by the Azzuri, balls served into the box were defended well in the air, and on the ground, however the team cannot continue to concede corners at the breakneck pace. I will not mention the name of the traitor, who moves to this country at a young age, takes advantage of all the opportunities given to him and then decides to play for a different country. Obviously he has talent and his goal was a was well taken, but a result of a defender refusing to step, at this level you do NOT give anyone space 25 yards and in. Imagine what a player of that type skill could do in the midfield. From the moment the US went down a man it was more than an uphill fight. The US defended valiantly and tried their best to give no quarter and take no prisoners but playing 60 minutes with 10 men against a team as talented as the Italian team is difficult to say the least. Tired legs pushed hard but the go ahead goal seemed inevitable after the 65th minute and constant pressure. The Italians brought on some help in the air with Luca Toni in the 70th minute. I personally feel Bob Bradly should subbed two midfield players to help defend, but he seemed to be pushing for offense by subbing in Beasley de Rossi's goal was a nicely taken one but more a result of Onyewu's inability to clear a ball coming in and the fact that he was in front of Timmy Howard. On a completely separate note, if I ever find the guy who did the A/C in my house I am going to choke him stupid. back to football. Donovan wasted wasted a really good chance by keeping the ball instead of passing the ball to Beasley. Donovan should have won a penalty in the 80th minute but in my opinion went down too easy, had he tried to win ball he might have picked it up. The US didn't play HORRIBLY but certainly could have played better. Losing a man so early really hurt. Jay Demerit and Oguchi Onyewu played pretty well at the back. The Italians goals all came from medium to long range strikes, partially from poor finishing but some solid aerial defending. One huge thing I noticed, our midfielders and strikers seem to hesitate to shoot from distance, trying too hard in my opinion, to not waste chances. You can't waste a chance you don't take. Tim Howard did well probably the best player for the US. The final goal, nothing you can say, poor and tired defending. traitor. Overall the us didn't play the worst I've ever seen 'em but certainly didn't play the best, had we had 11 men, might have been a different story.

[GTsetGO]

they played the best that i have seen in the last few months. in the WC qualifying they have looked BAD.

they did go toe to toe with italy until the red card came out. But italy is a second half team as it is.

[Jason]

they played the best that i have seen in the last few months. in the WC qualifying they have looked BAD.

they did go toe to toe with italy until the red card came out. But italy is a second half team as it is.

nice summation, and nice shirt, GOOD WOMAN!

[aldukes]

Did Dempsey play yesterday?

Oh yeah, he passed the ball to Rossi for the first goal.

[aldukes]

oh good! another embarrassing loss.

[GTsetGO]

how dare you say that. :D

they look bad.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

how dare you say that. :D

they look bad.

They got scored on their OWN corner kick:rolleyes:

[Jdbwolverines]

Wow the US looked bad. Loosing a close one to Italy a man down, I can understand, but Brazil just killed them. That corner kick was an absolute disgrace. On the other, Egypt has been playing very well lately. If not for the late penalty, they draw Brazil, and looked good in the win today vs Italy. I don't like USA's chances of getting a win in this tournament.

[DrDubzz]

Dempsey and Beasley need to find a permanent home on the bench

WTF is Stuart Holden? Why doesn't Bennie get more minutes? Why does Beasley keep getting minutes? Where is Adu? Why are 4-5 of our good players injured?

Why does Bradley still have a coaching job for us?

etc etc etc...

there is talent available, but it's not being used well, nor is it being maximally put on the field.

The bench idea goes for Mastroeni too. Old/slow/crappy/notasgoodastheythinktheyare players( cough dempsey) need to sit TF down and we need to turn loose the talent and let them create and attack.

rant\

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Man, we've let this thread slip too far! What's been going on in folks football world?

I know Tripoli is in dallas wowing his team with dazzling speed

I owe some people an update on the league contest I was in, they called the season after 8 games, instead of 10, so I'm not quite sure what to do about the goals or the record inputs?

What about the US confederations cup heartbreak? After playing poorly for 2 games getting in by the skin on our teeth and then sinking spain and nearly Brazil? Gold Cup thoughts? We need to get this back up near the TOP!

Is it too soon to mention the CA EPL Fantasy league? seems like we just stopped the other day! I plan on bringing it back. Maybe break it up and have a midseason prize? Hope everyone except Don Fernando is doing well, Don, I hope you've had really flat beer lately.:ss:fu

[Don Fernando]

Hope everyone except Don Fernando is doing well, Don, I hope you've had really flat beer lately.:ss:fu

I am so going to rob you in Mafia Wars now :p

We might have an American in my favorite team next year, Oguchi Onyewu might sign for Ajax Amsterdam.

[DrDubzz]

Stuart Holden = badass btw

is there going to be a fantasy epl league? I just set up my team on fantasy.premierleague.com

[Doctorossi]

Okay, better announce myself.

My name's Doctorossi and I'm an EPLoholic.

Arsenal, since you ask. :D

Looking forward to this thread!

[GTsetGO]

welcome to the football thread Doc. A lot of EPLoholics here.

[Jason]

Okay, better announce myself.

My name's Doctorossi and I'm an EPLoholic.

Arsenal, since you ask. :D

Looking forward to this thread!

You like the Arse anal?!?! You seeck puppy. I keed! I keeed!

Triumph rules

[theycallmedan'lboone]

So, should we have another EPL fantasy league? getting kinda close-ish.

[Doctorossi]

So, should we have another EPL fantasy league?

Uh... yeah! :tu

[GTsetGO]

So, should we have another EPL fantasy league? getting kinda close-ish.

sounds good to me

[theycallmedan'lboone]

sounds good to me
i am currently on my honeymoon and the boss wouldn't be happy if i spent too much time on the computer. but.. if she takes a nap today i will hit up either espn fantasy ( the one we used last season ) or the actual EPL site.
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[aldukes]

Is boone going to "fix" the league again?

[theycallmedan'lboone]

by 'fix' do you mean not win?;-)

[pnoon]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/pnoon/badge.jpg

[theycallmedan'lboone]

http://premierfantasy.soccernet.espn.go.com

here ya go!!!!!!

Name: CigarAsylum FC

Motto: "I bet he can't tackle"

PW: smokesomemore

Please someone let me know if this lets you in, hit me up on email at hooahtechcontrol@gmail.com if it doesn't. I know I can send requests through the fantasy league.

SIGN UP IF YOU DARE!


We'll discuss the in's for it...later possibly a mid season winner?

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Ok, So GTsetGO is in, as am I. Pnoon I expect the Liverpudlians to be near the top... again... password and stuff is above. 5 cigars to the winner from each player!

[theycallmedan'lboone]

so.. huge transfers so far over this summer. City bought nearly every striker known to man.. obviously real wants to spend more( don't go Xabi!!) is there any one transfer making THE impact? I personally feel owen will score 10 league goals.. minimum. chelsea may be in trouble.. as may arsenal. thoughts? you bastages hurry up and join the fantasy leauge!!!
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[aldukes]

Im In. But for some reason- someone has my account. I'll get this straightened out.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

some one has aldukes account?? probably pnoon
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[pnoon]

some one has aldukes account?? probably pnoon
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:confused:
Not me.

[reggiebuckeye]

One more week. Thank goodness. I am so tired of waiting.

[GTsetGO]

One more week. Thank goodness. I am so tired of waiting.

amen

[Don Fernando]

I renewed my contract with my current tv provider and as a bonus they gave me 6 extra sport channels (and a movie channel) for free, that means free Italian, Spanish, German and English football, watched part of the Chelski vs Man U game yesterday.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Don, shame you had to watch those clowns... Liverpool plays Sunday..

[Don Fernando]

i'll be watching Ajax Amsterdam on sunday

[theycallmedan'lboone]

are the rumors floating that ESPN bought 2 games from Setanta true?

[Doctorossi]

are the rumors floating that ESPN bought 2 games from Setanta true?

A whole 2 games?

I hope you're talking CL Final and FA Cup Final, or something. :D



Meanwhile... man, I need to get off my butt and sign up for the fantasy.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I'm sorry I meant 2 games a week. but yes doc rossi you need to get your butt in the fantasy league.

[Doctorossi]

Ok. I'm in for the big rumble. :D

[aldukes]

Max Bretos Fan is in!

Sorry suckers this is my year.

[TheRiddick]

are the rumors floating that ESPN bought 2 games from Setanta true?

Setanta is pretty much done with, I think they ran out of money, ESPN has bought the chunk and will do most of the games this season including CL. And Fox Sports has a bunch of games as well, as before.

[Jdbwolverines]

are the rumors floating that ESPN bought 2 games from Setanta true?

It appears they have purchased the rights to 2 games/week but I think it may only be for the tv broadcast in the UK. It shows them as a provider on the epl site for the UK (here: http://www.premierleague.com/page/UKAndIreland/0,,12306,00.html ), but they are not listed as providers in the US, Setanta still is (here: http://www.premierleague.com/page/International/0,,12306~1384625,00.html ). I also double checked on ESPN's website under their tv listings and I couldn't find any evidence of any games being shown, at least for this week. So who knows what kind of coverage we will get here in the States? :confused:

[theycallmedan'lboone]

not too many days left folks. Sign up while you can... anybody up for a mid season prize? After the Christmas break? 5 cigars?

[aldukes]

sounds good to me, boone.

[Jdbwolverines]

I'm good for whatever too. Anyone else having a hard time finalizing the roster so far? It seems like ESPN raised their prices a bit on most players, especially any starters for 'pool, ManU, and Chelsea. Only 1 day and a half left and I'll pry still change my lineup 3 more times.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I'm certain I'll make changes today... big news ESPNSOCCERNET: The new Barclays Premier League season is here and we have all you need to know, including which games will be shown on ESPN.
The new Barclays Premier League season is here and we have all you need to know, including which games will be shown on ESPN. [+]

the link doesn't have anything but sounds good to me...

[reggiebuckeye]

It is finally here. I can't wait. I won't be playing the fantasy league this year. I will be deployed during the season. Good luck to everyone playing. Don't let J win again.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

reggie, I won't. However, you make sure you get us your address as I think the CA Football club might have something sent out for you...

[theycallmedan'lboone]

reminder if you want into the fantasy league: get in NOW! League is: CigarAsylum FC
password is "smokesomemore"

[reggiebuckeye]

reggie, I won't. However, you make sure you get us your address as I think the CA Football club might have something sent out for you...

I will do that. Thank you. I have a few months before I go. I like the way they notify now, but it just adds to the stress. The waiting is what is driving me crazy.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I've discovered that ESPN (here in the good ol' US of A) is very likely not showing any premier league matches in the USA this season.... those lying bastages, just trying to get my hopes up for some HD football... :(

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Whats all this then? English football on my espn2????

[theycallmedan'lboone]

good lord 3 glorious days of english football, and no comments?
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[Doctorossi]

good lord 3 glorious days of english football, and no comments?
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:ss I'm happy.






With the results, that is, not the lack of comments.

[GTsetGO]

here's the schedule for EPL on ESPN2

Sat., 7:40 a.m. Chelsea vs. Hull City
Sat., Aug. 22, 9:55 a.m., Wigan Athletic vs. Manchester United
Mon., Aug. 24, 2:55 p.m. , Liverpool vs. Aston Villa
Sat., Aug. 29, 7:40 a.m., Chelsea vs. Burnley
Sat., Sept. 12, 9:55 a.m., Liverpool vs. Burnley
Sat., Sept. 1, 7:40 a.m, Burnley vs. Sunderland
Sat., Sept. 26, 7:40 a.m., Portsmouth vs. Everton
Mon., Sept. 28, 2:55 p.m., Manchester City vs. West Ham

[reggiebuckeye]

good lord 3 glorious days of english football, and no comments?
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I have plenty to say, but I don't want to jinx my boys. We all know how well they look out the box. Gets frustrating watching them falter and then have to celebrate ANOTHER 4th place finish. I know Everton is going through a lot now, but 6-1 one is never good.

How about Ade two minutes in scoring for Mercenary City? If he was that nice more consistently, he would still be in North London.

I have to do it..... Man U? I have to enjoy it while it lasts.

[reggiebuckeye]

here's the schedule for EPL on ESPN2

Sat., 7:40 a.m. Chelsea vs. Hull City
Sat., Aug. 22, 9:55 a.m., Wigan Athletic vs. Manchester United
Mon., Aug. 24, 2:55 p.m. , Liverpool vs. Aston Villa
Sat., Aug. 29, 7:40 a.m., Chelsea vs. Burnley
Sat., Sept. 12, 9:55 a.m., Liverpool vs. Burnley
Sat., Sept. 1, 7:40 a.m, Burnley vs. Sunderland
Sat., Sept. 26, 7:40 a.m., Portsmouth vs. Everton
Mon., Sept. 28, 2:55 p.m., Manchester City vs. West Ham

Great choice for HD games.:rolleyes: Those are the games they chose to show in the states? Come on.

[DrDubzz]

Burnley v Sunderland will win the masses over fo sho

[reggiebuckeye]

Burnley v Sunderland will win the masses over fo sho

Definitely. I can't wait.

[Jdbwolverines]

I'm pretty sure I read that the way the ESPN broadcast works is that they get to air all Monday afternoon games and then the early start on Saturday. If there is no early Saturday game I don't know how they choose which one to air. They may get to choose, since they seem to always be picking a Big 4 team, although not really what many would consider the premier fixture for the day

[Don Fernando]

which European topclub needs a striker and has the cash to spend? Luis Suarez, damn, that boy is amazing. I hope Ajax can keep him for another year.

[mastershogun]

good lord 3 glorious days of english football, and no comments?
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waiting for la liga :D

[theycallmedan'lboone]

fantasy is knee deep already joey in first...again...srriously how can you sell your soul to the devil two seasons in a row?
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[Doctorossi]

Dig that Chumps League draw- yeah! :tu

[reggiebuckeye]

You have got to be kidding me. Up 1-0 then down 2-1 in 5 minutes. My goodness. Why do I stick around for them to stick the knife in my back every season? It was a beautiful header by Diaby. Shame it went into his own goal.

[pnoon]

You have got to be kidding me. Up 1-0 then down 2-1 in 5 minutes. My goodness. Why do I stick around for them to stick the knife in my back every season. It was a beautiful header by Diaby. Shame it went into his own goal.

Always a stellar match between these two.
Unfortunate that the equaliser was waved off by offside (correct call :().
The officials treatment of Wenger at the end was childish.

[reggiebuckeye]

Always a stellar match between these two.
Unfortunate that the equaliser was waved off by offside (correct call :().
The officials treatment of Wenger at the end was childish.

It was the correct call. That match just turned so quickly after the penalty. Hard to take after seeing Arshavin get taken down hard in the box in the first half. Oh well. Still a long way to go in the season.

[pnoon]

It was the correct call. That match just turned so quickly after the penalty. Hard to take after seeing Arshavin get taken down hard in the box in the first half. Oh well. Still a long way to go in the season.
Given Liverpool's start, I'm thinking the same thing.

[reggiebuckeye]

Given Liverpool's start, I'm thinking the same thing.

Talk about a close one today. Wow. I thought you guys were done for.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Steven Gerrard is his name, Scoring game winners after pissing me off all day is his game.

[Jdbwolverines]

Steven Gerrard is his name, Scoring game winners after pissing me off all day is his game.

Classic Liverpool. Play completely uninspired football for 80 minutes and have Gerrard rip a late game winner in the back of the goal.

[pnoon]

Classic Liverpool. Play completely uninspired football for 80 minutes and have Gerrard rip a late game winner in the back of the goal.

Why do you think I have no hair? :D

Such a Jekyll and Hyde team.