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[theycallmedan'lboone]

1 TEAMOFCARRAGHERS Dan'lboone 856
2 Jdbwolverines Jdbwolverines 856
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4 SOS FC yayson 732
5 Lakeland Wednesday T. Tripoli 692
6 aldukes aldukes 636
7 CS Scousers P NOON 632
8 Buckeye's Bashers reggiebuckeye 579
9 Leeds Ga. Aracos 566
10 Trudy Tours TTOURS 492

[aldukes]

youve been quiet lately boone......

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I'm very unhappy.

[Don Fernando]

Why? :r

[theycallmedan'lboone]

there's don, always good for a laugh. Actually the footballing world had nothing to do with my happiness the other day. Stupid work stuff/stupid wedding/housebuying/dog shitting in my house stuff. we all have those days. It also might have something to do with the fact that no one but aldukes came up with a guess for my teams season, and that bastage said we'd allow 27 goals.

[Don Fernando]

there's don, always good for a laugh. Actually the footballing world had nothing to do with my happiness the other day.

sorry, my bad. I thought you were referring to the number 2 of England ;)


Stupid work stuff/stupid wedding/housebuying/dog shitting in my house stuff. we all have those days. It also might have something to do with the fact that no one but aldukes came up with a guess for my teams season, and that bastage said we'd allow 27 goals.

I missed that, I will check it tonight when I get home.

[Jdbwolverines]

******A contest A contest A khaaaaantest************************
thank you james tiberius.and Aldukey for such an Idea

So my team has started their practizin' for the up and coming season. 10 games, Win loose or draw in these matches. Looks like we're going to have a pretty decent squad. I've never played with any of these people before, and in a brand new division, with teams I've never played against. For a 5er of stogies, What will our record be? 1-8-1?
for the first tie breaker how many goals will I score? 0? 1? 5?* for the second tie breaker how many goals will my defense allow all season?

*the past 2 seasons I've been more like Jamie carragher (NO, NOT AGAINST SPURS) than Vidic, but scored twice in 2 seasons, a 25 yard volley, and a header off a corner. (If I score 10 goals this season, city will offer me 100 million)

I'm going with 3-4-3, You'll score 2 and allow 20. Questions: what division are you playing in and who (if anyone) is your team sponsor?

[Don Fernando]

I am going with 5-3-2 you will score twice and your defence will allow 11 goals.

[Jason]

I know nothing of your league or Team Pittman but I'ma go with the classic 4-4-2 setup, a bit of a drought for you I'm afraid at 0 goals and your defense will allow an average of 1 per game so, 10.

I hope you fare better and enjoy yourself

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Ok I re-read my post and I apologize for sounding like a whiny child. *no body is paying attention to me!* haha
http://hasl.org/ click divisons and on the far left scroll down to divison IV... thats us the misfits.

Joe, we currently have no sponsor, but will try to locate one next season. why?

Jason, your confidence in my goal scoring abilities is outstanding... however it would seem to be practical as the "goalie" has yet to show for a practice, so i've been relegated to keeper instead of centerback.

[Lumpold]

Sunday League contest entry follows:

The Misfits PL10 W3 L1 D6 GD+4
Daniel 'Jaime' Boone's season was highlighted by his only goal of the season, a sublime header from an inswinging corner, scoring the winning goal in a nail biting 4-3 victory over Arsenal.*


*Edited to contain a team in your league, and seeing as they were, do the gooner bastards for me, son!

[theycallmedan'lboone]

lump, I'll do my damnedest. One of the boys on my squad is a monster Arsenal fan, and has already put several pints on the match. goals allowed?

[Jason]

lump, I'll do my damnedest. One of the boys on my squad is a monster Arsenal fan, and has already put several pints on the match. goals allowed?

this is adult amateur soccer man, I know the drill! You scored 2-3 last season (if my random fact recollector is not broken)? You'll definitely be moved further back and then follows this, the drought, inevitable! Sorry, don't shoot the messenger.

[Jdbwolverines]

Ok I re-read my post and I apologize for sounding like a whiny child. *no body is paying attention to me!* haha
http://hasl.org/ click divisons and on the far left scroll down to divison IV... thats us the misfits.

Joe, we currently have no sponsor, but will try to locate one next season. why?

Jason, your confidence in my goal scoring abilities is outstanding... however it would seem to be practical as the "goalie" has yet to show for a practice, so i've been relegated to keeper instead of centerback.

The sponsor matters. Look at what happened last year when you were sponsored by or carpet company or whatever it was. Also knowing that you play in D4, I am switching my pick to 4-3-3 you still score 2 and will give up 19.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Thanks for the confidence.... I've spent the entire winter working on my set peice shots.

[Jason]

Thanks for the confidence.... I've spent the entire winter working on my set peice shots.

I expect GOALS! Golden Ballllls II

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I'll see what I can do about video evidence... ;-)

:-( fowler probably moving to Australia to play football.

[Jdbwolverines]

Did anyone get to watch the Liverpool - Everton draw today? By watching the gamecast and reading the report, it sounded like Liverpool started out slow once again and after Gerrard hit the equalizer, Everton really packed in the defense. I expect the replay next week to be equally close. For the 5th round draw, the winner should be getting Villa so long as they can win their replay with Doncaster next week. Not going to be an easy road for the Cup for Liverpool at all.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Joey, from a truly unbiased view. Liverpool dominated 88 minutes out of the game. Honestly, everton may have had a 3-4 minute spell of possession. here's a hint rafa.. MARK CAHILL!. Steven's finish was sublime, even if it was for a bit of timmy howards not getting down fast enough, but torres' ball through to him was even better. howard made up for it though about 5 minutes after the goal when he stopped a Gerrard special, half volley from about 8 yards. Liverpool dominated, but it only takes a moment. Marking tim Cahill would have been the difference. I want Robbie Keane to get some action. I love Dirk Kuyt, but the guy's just not cutting it EVERY WEEK.

(edited to say) he'll go a while and then pop up to score, I dunno, the winner next derby)

[Jason]

...here's a hint rafa.. MARK CAHILL!

...

I love Dirk Kuyt, but the guy's just not cutting it EVERY WEEK...

Rafa couldn't mark his undies, much less Cahill :D

Kuyt's integral to Liverpool being able to do how they do I think, he's tireless and dogged, goals from him I think would be considered as incidental gravy

In other news Milan stomped the hell out of Bologna today and goldenballs I gets his first goal after his third game (and managed to NOT give up the ball 15 times). Kaka's got 2. Marco Di Vaio is still top class and the only Bologna player to impress.

Still giddy and hungover from Inter's destruction at the hands of Atalanta last week I barely cared that they eaked out 3 points today, they're not convincing me that the scudetto is theirs. They may be finished riding the wave of relegated and points-docked competition

[Don Fernando]

Juventus will bid 30 million euro for Kuyt, at least, that's what the Italian media suggests.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

jason your words make me laugh. I think Benayoun starting over dirk kuyt would actually be better for Liverpool as a team. Kuyt does have that whole, I can run until my legs fall off thing going for him.

If Juve do make a 30 MILLION (euro I assume) bid for dirk kuyt, Rafa should take it. Not that he's using the other 20 million guy he has(and who will, imho, lose come this summer) I think getting 30 mil for dirk k is great. Buy a real winger.. or let benayoun/babel play.

[Jdbwolverines]

Juventus will bid 30 million euro for Kuyt, at least, that's what the Italian media suggests.

For 30 Million I think Rafa should take it too. I really like Kuyt and hate to see him go, but you can get a lot for that much. Also when is Rafa finally to get a line up and stick with it. I know you have to find one that works, change things up for injuries, and let players get some rest, but on the flip side there is also putting your best 11 out there and letting them get into a regular routine of playing and in habit with each other. There are some games where he will start no (true) strikers and just have Kuyt and Gerrard play up, or he will set it like this weekends and have Torres and Babel along with Kuyt and Gerrard all in. And is Keane ever going to get off the bench again?

[theycallmedan'lboone]

In my mind, I paid money for him I'm going to see what I can get... (if i was rafa da gaffa)

[theycallmedan'lboone]

so what happens if we have a tie in the fantasy league?

[aldukes]

so what happens if we have a tie in the fantasy league?

arm wrestle!

[theycallmedan'lboone]

helll no, Joey blanchard has never lost in an arm-wrestling competiton.

[Don Fernando]

Kuyt doesn't want to go to Italy, he wants to renew his contract with Liverpool.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

hell you've got a manager that starts you 9 times out of 10 why would you want to move?

[Don Fernando]

money? change of scenery? a fair shot at the title? :r

He had a manager that started him at Utrecht 10 out of 10, he had a manager that started with him at Feyenoord 10 out of 10.

[Jason]

He had a manager that started him at Utrecht 10 out of 10, he had a manager that started with him at Feyenoord 10 out of 10.

C'mon DF! We both know there are things more interesting for Kuyt than starting at Utrecht. We both also know that Feyenoord are sh*t through and through :D

[theycallmedan'lboone]

HeLLO leslie osborne!

[theycallmedan'lboone]

am I a bad person for taking a few hours off of work to watch Liverpool v Wigan? (I didn't ask if I was intelligent, just a bad person, so no comments from the peanut gallery.. DF).

[Don Fernando]

C'mon DF! We both know there are things more interesting for Kuyt than starting at Utrecht. We both also know that Feyenoord are sh*t through and through :D

Yeah, like I said before, Kuyt has a poor choice when it comes to choosing clubs :r

[Don Fernando]

am I a bad person for taking a few hours off of work to watch Liverpool v Wigan? (I didn't ask if I was intelligent, just a bad person, so no comments from the peanut gallery.. DF).

No, you're not a bad person. Wish I could see Wigan play too :r

I actually quit a job once because of football. I wanted to see Ajax vs Gremio for the worldcup late 1995 and because of the time difference with Japan that game was here mid day. My (female, football hating) boss said that football was no reason to take a day off, so I took the keys to the office, slammed them on her desk and said I quit.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

don you might should have just called in sick?

I hereby declare I won't watch another liverpool game until they win again... after sunday...

[Don Fernando]

it was just a temp job

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Has Rafa lost the plot? He endeared himself to the Liverpool fans in 2005 when he took liverpool to the CL final and came away with the trophy. Since then there has been an FA Cup (2006) and a Community shield.. (2007) and... the UEFA Supercup... 2005.. anyways. While thats all great and wonderous... Only 2 of them have any real meaning. The FA Cup and The CL final. Liverpool and their fans desire 1 thing. The Premier League Title. While many teams would be happy to say that in 5 years they've won SOMEKIND of silverware. Obviously that's not enough. I think that Liverpool have the talent to compete for the PL. Obviously Man U is the favorite, and has been since day 1. Why does Benitez play defensively when he's up only a single goal? why does he pull of Captain Fantastic?(ever!?) Why does Robbie Keane not play? Why does Lucas? These are all questions I'd love to have answered. Don, I expect some hilariaty to ensue from you.. Jason? Aldukes? anybody?

[Jason]

too many questions for me to address in a dark garden shed on a laptop with a schitzy power cord and dead battery but I think it's a testament to Liverpool fans that the grumblin is only just beginning since his rotation policy is assinine given the type of personalities he buys for squad players and the way he rotates. Been donig it since day one and doesn't show any signs of learning a lesson.

He's a good tactician, and a decent man manager but man management style is suited to a smaller club with lower expectations I do believe.

If he played a first team and bought and used squad players based on injuries instead of His Indecipherable Way, he'd be doing it all at Liverpool

[Jdbwolverines]

Has Rafa lost the plot? He endeared himself to the Liverpool fans in 2005 when he took liverpool to the CL final and came away with the trophy. Since then there has been an FA Cup (2006) and a Community shield.. (2007) and... the UEFA Supercup... 2005.. anyways. While thats all great and wonderous... Only 2 of them have any real meaning. The FA Cup and The CL final. Liverpool and their fans desire 1 thing. The Premier League Title. While many teams would be happy to say that in 5 years they've won SOMEKIND of silverware. Obviously that's not enough. I think that Liverpool have the talent to compete for the PL. Obviously Man U is the favorite, and has been since day 1. Why does Benitez play defensively when he's up only a single goal? why does he pull of Captain Fantastic?(ever!?) Why does Robbie Keane not play? Why does Lucas? These are all questions I'd love to have answered. Don, I expect some hilariaty to ensue from you.. Jason? Aldukes? anybody?

I've wondered if Rafa has what it takes to win a league title. Too often they start out well and has them in a position to make a run, but then blows it. They clearly have enough talent to win, the champions league success has proven that, but I don't know if Rafa knows how to manage the talent properly over the entire season. He seams to struggle to find ways to beat the lesser clubs. If you want to win the title, you just can't keep giving those points away.

I have no idea why the puts out some of the lineups he does. Lucas will probably be a very good football someday, but Keane is a good footballer now. (Maybe you should try adding and dropping him from your fantasy team, that seemed to work well in the past). The fairly consistent lineup he used from Aug to Nov seemed to be working rather well. It seems like every week now, I have now idea on who he will be putting out there. It seems like now that everyone is healthy, he decides its time to keep shaking everything up.

This season is definitely not over, not by a long shot, but Liverpool is going to start getting some W's on a consistent basis again, or it will be over for them very quickly.

[Don Fernando]

Don, I expect some hilariaty to ensue from you.. Jason? Aldukes? anybody?

I don't know why Boone, but I don't mind the way things are going now :) To be honest, I don't dislike Liverpool as much as it may seem, I just love to bust some balls :r and I do love Man U.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

DonDon, I'm certain you don't hate the open road ahead of you, now that doe-eyed-cryboy-berbatov has decided to start scoring, it might get interesting... maybe if his former parndner were given the option to play more than 12 minutes here and there.. I honestly don't despise manU as much as I seem to, but alas there aren't many Chelsea fanboys around. Them I don't like.

[Don Fernando]

Chelski is probably the team that I dislike most in the Premier League.

Inter used to be that team in the Serie A, but then they bought 2 of my favorite (ex Ajax) players, so they won a bit of sympathy. But as soon as Chivu and Zlatan leave Inter they will be my least favorite again ;)

[theycallmedan'lboone]

such a fair weather fan. I think that Robbie Keane is on his way back to spurs, as he has been left off the squad for today... maybe babel will finally get some time up top? too bad I felt he was a good player... oh well. perhaps rafa da gaffa knows best...:rolleyes: only problem is who does liverpool get in between now and monday? very frustrating. :bh 20 Million to rent a player for 6 months and not hardly play him. (imho) I understand he wasn't exactly nando torres, I don't think the comparisons to Rush/Dalglish helped either.

[Don Fernando]

today I support Liverpool, how about that Boone?

[Bubba - NJ]

I've just recently gotten into the Premier league and football you play with your feet and not hands . I've always watched the international competitions and was quite honestly missing the sport after last years Euro Cup . I've been driving my wife nuts since finding Gol tv and the Fox soccer channel . From Bundesliga I've enjoyed watching Bayern Munchen since I'm familiar with some of the players and Stuttgart also . The FA cup has been pretty entertaining with some of the smaller clubs and their 6,000 seat venues . Today I watched Liverpool beat Chelsea , Lampard should not have been tossed , but it was good to see Torres break through twice at the end . I can't say I'm partial to any one squad in the Premier League yet , just a fan of the game and its Passion . It would be nice to catch a game between Celtic and the Rangers as my niece now lives in Scotland and has a boyfriend there who is a Celtic fan . He has told some bits and pieces about what it's like to attend that fierce rivalry . Next time there is a friendly played in Philadelphia I'm going to get tickets to experience the event . :D

[Don Fernando]

Celtic is great, I have good memories about the time they played Ajax. Ok, not such great memories about the result thought, but they brought a massive amount of supporters abroad, over 10,000 of which only 8,000 had tickets. The atmosphere in the stadium was fantastic, those Celtic boyz can sing. And the party before the game was great too, Ajax & Celtic supporters walking, singing and drinking side by side without any violence or riots.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Bubba! glad to have you! I agree Lamps shouldn't have been sent off.. but mike riley was RIGHT there. SO he must have had some reason. however, bosingwa should have been SENT packing. He'll get an FA charge. Obviously you should be a liverpool fan, especially if you like the passion. it's what the reds do. passion. What did you think about Steven Gerrard's diving yellow? looked like his foot slipped to me.. but ok.

[Jason]

Steven Gerrard's diving yellow? looked like his foot slipped to me.. but ok.

Are you serious here? Hard to tell in plain text.

The ref was a total Joke, Bosingwa, Gerrard and Alonso should have been sent off, Lampard not... total reverse. He sent Lampard off for thinking he saw the same thing he gave Alonso a yellow for earlier. He is a weak ref.

In other news Inter looks plain as they tie 18th Torino and Milan don't look as old as they are after completely dominating and schooling the fascist blue side of Rome today. Rossoneri for the scudetto?

Welcome to the feetball BUBBA!

[aldukes]

Bosingwa is my new fav player.

[Mr.Italy]

Hi guys, I just wonder if you saw my post on European Champions League

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9296

No interest at all?

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Are you serious here? Hard to tell in plain text.

The ref was a total Joke, Bosingwa, Gerrard and Alonso should have been sent off, Lampard not... total reverse. He sent Lampard off for thinking he saw the same thing he gave Alonso a yellow for earlier. He is a weak ref.

In other news Inter looks plain as they tie 18th Torino and Milan don't look as old as they are after completely dominating and schooling the fascist blue side of Rome today. Rossoneri for the scudetto?

Welcome to the feetball BUBBA!


no gerrard dove, fell, slipped on a nanner peel... but I honestly can say thats the first time I've seen someone carded for diving in the EPL. ever. anyways. I'm not sure how you can say Gerrard should have been sent off, nor alonso. Alonso did hit Lampards foot, but lumps was playing in a dangerous manner.. (studs high) worse case scenario a yellow for both. From Riley's perspective (behind lamps) all he could see was his foot 10 inches off the ground. But the bosingwa thing? really? seriously? wow. Riley didn't have control of that game, but not a surprise.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Mr Italy. I didn't really understand your contest. I for one am certainly in for a Champions league pool. Perhaps you could explain it better? here?

[pnoon]

no gerrard dove, fell, slipped on a nanner peel... but I honestly can say thats the first time I've seen someone carded for diving in the EPL. ever. anyways. I'm not sure how you can say Gerrard should have been sent off, nor alonso. Alonso did hit Lampards foot, but lumps was playing in a dangerous manner.. (studs high) worse case scenario a yellow for both. From Riley's perspective (behind lamps) all he could see was his foot 10 inches off the ground. But the bosingwa thing? really? seriously? wow. Riley didn't have control of that game, but not a surprise.

I watched the game.

I am in the minority when I agree with the Lampard send off. Lampard did come in with studs up just above the ankle. Easy to break someone's leg and possibly end a career. I think officials need to crack down harder on this sort of play.

Gerrard went down way to easily. Has he been watching C. Ronaldo?
I believe referees need to crack down harder on this behavior as well. It ruins the game. It's getting extremely difficult for referees to do a proper job without players deliberately trying to cheat.

Can someone clue me in on the Boswinga incident? I don't recall what you are referring to.

[Jason]

no gerrard dove, fell, slipped on a nanner peel... but I honestly can say thats the first time I've seen someone carded for diving in the EPL. ever.

Gerrard's just got lucky I guess.

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I'm not sure how you can say Gerrard should have been sent off, nor alonso.

Yellow for diving and a red for hammering the ball into Bosingwa's jiggly bits from a foot away after the whistle had gone.

Alonso had the yellow for the studs-up straight-in and there was another obvious yello that should have been given him, I recall thinking it at the time but can't recall exactly what it was. I was glad to see him remain however, he's an outstanding player and a gentleman.

I am in the minority when I agree with the Lampard send off. Lampard did come in with studs up just above the ankle. Easy to break someone's leg and possibly end a career. I think officials need to crack down harder on this sort of play.
Alonso did hit Lampards foot, but lumps was playing in a dangerous manner.. (studs high) worse case scenario a yellow for both.

As I understand the Laws of the Game there is only intent-to-injure or violent-conduct that are taken into account to determine if a red card is warranted in these types of situations?

As I understand the unwritten rules that refs seem to go by traditionally in the BPL, lately anyhow, it tends to change, there is consideration given to (1) studs-up (pointing at the opposition), (2) straightness of body and line behind the tackle (momentum and weight for max payload) and the (3) height of the challenge (on the opponent's body).

Laws-wise I don't think Lampard or Alonso should have been tossed, they were both honest attempts at the ball. Unwritten rules-wise I think Alonso's was the more violent of the 2 due to the fact the he landed studs into the metatarsals with the straight locked body and angle of challenge behind it delivering large payload (I was suprised to see the Chelsea boy get up and continue). Lampard on the other hand was a sweeping motion (no locked straight body, knee was flexing) and his studs were not pointed at the opposing player. He was however higher than Alonso in the challenge but that's where the ball was, and he got it clean. Alonso actually swung at the ball, missed, and made the contact with Lampard! Rough justice. I'd have a hard time giving Lampard a yellow for that much less a red. To be honest however, it looked nasty in real time and I don't blame the ref too much, his angle on the incident made it look even worse.

Can someone clue me in on the Boswinga incident? I don't recall what you are referring to.

Last few minutes Yossi took it to the corner flag to kill the clock and Bosingwa stuck his studs in the small of his back, pushing him out of bounds and the ball with him. Throw in to Chelsea :) Wasn't a kick to do damage but it was definitely a red card beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

http://disk919.com/bb2/ca/partystevieg.gif

:r:r

[aldukes]

Attn: Boone
From: aldukes & jason

Subject: Proclamation

From this day forward all laughing will be changed from " hahahha" to "rafahahah".

That is all.

[Jason]

Attn: Boone
From: aldukes & jason

Subject: Proclamation

From this day forward all laughing will be changed from " hahahha" to "rafahahah".

That is all.

:r:r RAFLMAO :r:r

[theycallmedan'lboone]

*sigh* Keane is gone.

[Jason]

http://disk919.com/bb2/ca/rental.jpg

http://disk919.com/bb2/ca/rafl.gif RAFL http://disk919.com/bb2/ca/rafl.gif

[theycallmedan'lboone]

no?

I guess we shall know soon enough about Lampard as THE fa has already said Bosingwa wouldn't face charges, that my friends, is absolutely ridiculous. Zero intent to play the ball, played dangerously, honestly looked malicious to me... so with the FA going that route, Alonso will end up with a 3 match ban.

"Referee Mike Riley has informed the FA that, while he did not see the incident himself, it was seen by his assistant Mo Matadar. No action was taken against Bosingwa by the officials.

"Under the FIFA Laws of the Game, the FA is prohibited from taking disciplinary action when incidents are seen at the time by the match officials."

[aldukes]

no?

I guess we shall know soon enough about Lampard as THE fa has already said Bosingwa wouldn't face charges, that my friends, is absolutely ridiculous. Zero intent to play the ball, played dangerously, honestly looked malicious to me... so with the FA going that route, Alonso will end up with a 3 match ban.

"Referee Mike Riley has informed the FA that, while he did not see the incident himself, it was seen by his assistant Mo Matadar. No action was taken against Bosingwa by the officials.

"Under the FIFA Laws of the Game, the FA is prohibited from taking disciplinary action when incidents are seen at the time by the match officials."

This whole thing is crazy. This will be one of those games that will be talked about for years to come.

Just saw the slo-mo and lampard gets the ball first. Terrible.

[Bubba - NJ]

Bubba! glad to have you! I agree Lamps shouldn't have been sent off.. but mike riley was RIGHT there. SO he must have had some reason. however, bosingwa should have been SENT packing. He'll get an FA charge. Obviously you should be a liverpool fan, especially if you like the passion. it's what the reds do. passion. What did you think about Steven Gerrard's diving yellow? looked like his foot slipped to me.. but ok.

I honestly was glad to see a dive called . I don't really remember the play exactly but I do remember the yellow . Watch Luca Toni for Bayern enough and you will see some over embellishment of contact . The referee's have a hard enough job to do but the non call on Bosingwa was ridiculous . He was frustrated but he has got to stay in control and not put his boot in any ones arse . How long will Torres remain with Liverpool ? That kid is clutch . One other question I have - Is there any connection between Celtic , Liverpool and Manchester United ?

[pnoon]

Just saw the slo-mo and lampard gets the ball first. Terrible.
Which means absolutely squat.
A common misconception about the laws of thegame is that many feel that if the player gets the ball first, there can be no foul or card.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with the call. Just with the reasoning that the call was terrible because he got the ball first.

[Jason]

Which means absolutely squat.

means he was playing the ball, not the man, doesn't it? that goes a long way towards excluding the possibility of intent to injure or violent conduct

now lets move on to Shawn Wright Phillips, nasty tackle then a plain retaliation kick, red card! No, foul for Citeh :confused:

[aldukes]

Which means absolutely squat.
A common misconception about the laws of thegame is that many feel that if the player gets the ball first, there can be no foul or card.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with the call. Just with the reasoning that the call was terrible because he got the ball first.

There's the rule and what actually happens. I totally understand where youre coming from, being its the rules and all, but on a 50/50 ball the player that gets there first always gets the benefit of the doubt.

To me, Lampard starts his approach early enough, it was obvious in my judgement that he was going for the ball not the player. Alonso did not have possession of the ball.

I would have cautioned both players for dangerous play. Lampard for sliding high and the Alonso for coming in with a high boot after the ball was cleared away.

[Don Fernando]

Can someone clue me in on the Boswinga incident? I don't recall what you are referring to.

http://www.fcupdate.nl/nieuws/2009/02/02/karatetrap-bosingwa-blijft-onbestraft_112842/

You won't understand the language, but the video at the bottom shows it all.

[Mr.Italy]

Mr Italy. I didn't really understand your contest. I for one am certainly in for a Champions league pool. Perhaps you could explain it better? here?

Well my english is very bad and I'm sorry, but what you really do not understand?

°°°°°°°°
Who agrees, to the contest, put's in a stick declaring it at time of signing his name for the final winner of the contest.

First leg : Must guess the final eight not later than February 23rd (it can also be changed, last one is the valid one)

Second leg : Must guess the final four not later than April 6th ( If only one winner from first leg, we take also the best runners up to go ahead but they have to add another cigar if they decide to continue )

Third leg : Must choose the final Champion, not later than April 27th and you get all the cigars.

All the partecipants will send on May 28th the cigars to the winner.


Atlético - Porto 24/02 » 11/03 »
Lyon - Barcelona 24/02 » 11/03 »
Arsenal - Roma 24/02 » 11/03 »
Inter - Man. United 24/02 » 11/03 »
R. Madrid - Liverpool 25/02 » 10/03 »
Chelsea - Juventus 25/02 » 10/03 »
Villarreal - Panathinaikos 25/02 » 10/03 »
Sporting - Bayern 25/02 » 10/03 »


I start :

Mr.Italy > Gran Pyramide Hoyo de Monterrey from humidor

First Leg Choise.

Porto
Barcelona
Roma
Inter
Liverpool
Chelsea
Panathinaikos
Bayern

[theycallmedan'lboone]

my apologies sir, If i'd taken the time to read I think I would have understood. basically You pick who goes through from the first round, second and then the final? I'm not trying to ruin your contest but what happens if we tie?

[Mr.Italy]

I believed it was already difficult to get to teh end, but yes if we tie we share the cigars and...... for doing it a bit more difficult we could :

- assign a number of points per leg guessed correctly.
- and assign a number of points for correctly guessing the aggregate score.
- so you must pick winners for each game and most points wins.

example:
Liverpool V Real I predict liverpool to win by an aggregate score of 3-1.

If Liverpool go through. I get 2 points
If I guess the correct aggregate score, I get 1 point. totaling 3 points.

person with the most points at end wins

But passage between 1st to 2nd and to 3rd leg is necessary mainly to get the winning team.

I hope it is clear, otherwise I renounce and hope somebody can build up something better.

Enjoy smoking watching European Champion League is my target :ss

[Jdbwolverines]

Lampard won his appeal against the red card so he won't be missing any games. Probably a good outcome because while I do think it was a penalty (you can't go in on a 50/50 ball with your cleats up like) not severe enough to warrant a 3 game suspension.

The no call on Bosingwa and subsequent ruling is atrocious. Because the refs messed up, and even admitted to doing so, you can't punish the player later. Doesn't make an sense to me.

It was nice to see a card given out for diving and is something I would like to see catch on.. Even though I don't think he was actually diving that play, there were other times that game by him and others were it looked like it could have been called. I would love to see a certain Portuguese player who seems to have trouble keeping his footing around the penalty box be called for this.

[Mr.Italy]

What you think of Quaresma to Chelsea? will he find space in teh team ?

[Flatsix]

In regard to the Chelsea game on Sunday and all of the B.S that went on, in my opinion, Mike Reilly lost control of the game early on. The referee is supposed to allow play to go on and not get overly involved. The actions by some of the players and the roughness in which the game was played was due to Reilly missing or miss calling actions.

As to the cards:

Lampard=deserved a yellow at most, got a red but it's been overturned.
Gerrard=dive, deserved a yellow.
Gerrard=kicking the ball into Kalou, at least a yellow, maybe a red.
Mascherano=probably deserved a yellow early on
Alonso=deserved a yellow in the Lampard mess.
Bosingwa=I'm a Blue's fan and I feel that he deserved a red, a fine and maybe a suspension.

[Flatsix]

What you think of Quaresma to Chelsea? will he find space in teh team ?

There are enough Portuguese players on the team to make him feel at home. He should get along with Scolari and if they play him on the left side then Chelsea can go 4-4-2. I'm hoping that he brings some speed and ball handling to the team. I always liked Wright Phillips because he could take the ball deep and then cross. Quaresma should be able to do the same as well as shoot from the outside of the off foot creating scoring opportunities.

You've probably seen more of his play than I have, what do you think of the move.

Good or bad for Chelsea?

[Flatsix]

I would love to see a certain Portuguese player who seems to have trouble keeping his footing around the penalty box be called for this.

CR keeps slipping on the gel dripping from his hair:r

[Mr.Italy]

You've probably seen more of his play than I have, what do you think of the move.

Good or bad for Chelsea?

He is been playing very little and very badly with Inter, never actually showed any skils. Basically he has failed over here even if he had in Mourinho a pusher that tried in all ways to "wake him up".

I understand this is his last chance to show in a big team, if he will fails he will go back to play in portiguese championship.

I hope he recovers as 20 Million Euro spent with no results is really bad ( I understand it is been given free to Clesea until June).

[theycallmedan'lboone]

bloody hell. Gerrard is injured.

[Jdbwolverines]

bloody hell. Gerrard is injured.

WTF!!!

[Jason]

watched the last 10 of OT, apparently that's all I needed to see. Torres injured too?

You know I hate to casue anymore pain than is necessary but I just manufactured this yesterday and have to get some use out of it:

http://disk919.com/bb2/ca/rafl.gif RAFAHAHAHA http://disk919.com/bb2/ca/rafl.gif

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I recorded it, and now that I've watched it. Lucas was worthless and in the long run might have cost us the game. Gerrard is out for 3 weeks. It means Gerrard will miss this weekend's trip to Portsmouth as well as England's friendly with Spain next week.

The news is a massive blow to Liverpool's title challenge as their talisman will also miss the home clash with Manchester City on 22nd February and possibly the UEFA Champions League tie with Real Madrid three days later.

He's missing games against relegation close teams and Real. Thank goodness for the extra week from the internationals. bad time to be with out Gerrard, however I'll say liverpool might have played their best game this season without him, and torres. v Man United. Hurts my fantasy team as I've only got 2 transfers and can't afford to pull him and then add him back, hopefully lucas will leave and we'll pick up a new strong midfielder not someone who can't handle pressure.

[Jason]

The news is a massive blow to Liverpool's title challenge

They have a 62 man squad and a top manager, they should be fine.

What do you think about Gerrard's place in the team? Is he not replaceable? Do you think he bosses Rafa any? He's got the teeth (I've heard that he bares them as well) due to fan support. I've always thought Rafa would not want to rely on him so completely but he'd lose the supporters if he included him in the crazy rotations.

They have the depth of talent to take care of business but I'm not sure about the mentality, spiritual issues if you will.

I hope they excel while he's out

[Jdbwolverines]

While Gerrard is an irreplaceable type of player, I too think that Liverpool will do alright without him. I think Benayoun has been playing well lately and can fill in for him pretty well. I also wouldn't be surprised if Rafa started playing Babel back a bit to serve as a bridge from the midfielders to Torres. Liverpool's schedule also is pretty light, save the Man City game, but they have been dropping way too many points to the weaker clubs this year so who knows. I do wonder however as to how Robbie Keane could have filled in with Gerrard out. I think he would have played nicely in Gerrard's spot behind Torres.

[pnoon]

they have been dropping way too many points to the weaker clubs this year

This year? That has been their problem for a couple of years now. They just can't seem to bury the sides they should.

Breaks my heart.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Liverpools title tilt shouldn't be determined by missing steven gerrard for 2 PL matches. while he would add something to Any team, I'm more worried about the first leg of the Real Madrid clash.

[pnoon]

Liverpools title tilt shouldn't be determined by missing steven gerrard for 2 PL matches. while he would add something to Any team, I'm more worried about the first leg of the Real Madrid clash.

True. But we all know that the CL title will be little consolation. The EPL title is the hardware to be had.

[Lumpold]

Tomorrow I will mostly be supporting West Ham.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

lumpy I'm with you. GO 'AMMERS!

[Jason]

lumpy I'm with you. GO 'AMMERS!

you had your day in the sun

[aldukes]

First Adams - then Scolari- will Rafa be next?

Prob not. but its wishful thinking.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

messers gillet and hicks have said that if There is no PL title rafa is gone. according to what I've read. But Scolari getting sacked is pretty impressive. Didn't see that coming...don't be surprised if Gian Franco Zola winds up at the bridge

[theycallmedan'lboone]

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it's staying close boys. very close.

[Bubba - NJ]

Another great goal by Fernando Torres on Saturday . Good game overall too , I thought . I'm learning about some of the interesting rules like intentionally playing a ball back to your keeper and that the keeper can't use his hands on said play . Are there any other rules that a new fan should be aware of ? Giggs had a good goal on Sunday as well .

[pnoon]

Another great goal by Fernando Torres on Saturday . Good game overall too , I thought . I'm learning about some of the interesting rules like intentionally playing a ball back to your keeper and that the keeper can't use his hands on said play . Are there any other rules that a new fan should be aware of ? Giggs had a good goal on Sunday as well .

To clarify your statement "intentionally playing a ball back to your keeper and that the keeper can't use his hands on said play"

The direction (back) is immaterial. The goalkeeper may not handle the ball in his own penalty area when it has been played deliberately (not a deflection) by a teammate. The result is an indirect free kick for the opposing team.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

thus resulting in a goal for fabio.

aldukey how goes your club season?

[aldukes]

thus resulting in a goal for fabio.

aldukey how goes your club season?


Due to snow and temps around 10 degrees for 3 Wednesdays straight- the winter league was canceled. We have "scrimmages" that are planned week by week now.

I'm thinking about taking everyone's numbers from the previous contest and applying them to Spring season that starts the first week of March. I still have plenty of cigars to give away.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

wow! it's like 60 degrees here. Our season is 1 week away getting kinda excited.. and worried my left knee is questionable.. and it's my good knee. you should put up some pictures of your kit and the like...

[aldukes]

you should put up some pictures of your kit and the like...

We wear Arsenal jerseys :hn

I think were getting new kits in the fall- I'll post them up when we do.

I am starting to look at new boots (http://www.soccer.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Ne=21&N=4294960675+427+4294959043+4294960666&Product_Id=478519) though

[theycallmedan'lboone]

one of the guys on my team bought those. says he loves them. I picked up some year old preds white and blue... sorry you're forced to wear arsenal shirts...

[theycallmedan'lboone]

seriously! espn? unbelievable. showing argentina v france instead of Spain v England? WTF OVER!

[Jdbwolverines]

Guus Hiddink to replace Scolari at Chelsea. He is going to continue managing the Russia national team as well. Not the most obvious of choices if yoask me, but he is one of Abramovich's guys so not a huge surprise. Given his success at PSV, I'm sure Don has a comment or two about him.

[adampc22]

2-0 what crap

[GTsetGO]

so who's watching the USA / MEXICO game this evening?

[aldukes]

Not a good start for the US. May god bless Tim Howard.

What a 2-0 snoozefest this afternoon.

[GTsetGO]

USA 2 - Mex 0

typical boring US soccer.

[12stones]

I thought it was a decent game, though I think the US is gonna have to take better advantages of the red card if they're gonna make it anywhere in the World Cup. Mexico did a good job of neutralizing them.

[Bubba - NJ]

so who's watching the USA / MEXICO game this evening?

I watched it tonight . The wind was ridiculous , took away most long balls and really affected the play . At least we won though . :dance:

[aldukes]

not enough JOZY.

[pnoon]

What did everyone think of the red card to Marquez and yellow card to Howard?

My take? Marquez deserved the red. The challenge itself was normal and acceptable except for the studs up, attempt to injure kick to Howards leg.

The yellow to Howard was a stupid call. The match report said it was for delaying the restart. How do you penalize someone, in that situation, for delaying their own free kick? Especially when the referee was trying to disperse the angry mob. A quick restart was never gonna happen. Puzzling.

[Lumpold]

The yellow to Howard was a stupid call. The match report said it was for delaying the restart. How do you penalize someone, in that situation, for delaying their own free kick? Especially when the referee was trying to disperse the angry mob. A quick restart was never gonna happen. Puzzling.

I didn't see the game - US v Mexico broadcast here? lol

However, from FIFA interpretations, if Howard was instructed to restart the match, and then dawdled, I can see why, even if there were other problems, he was given the card, although it might have been a dumb call.

[pnoon]

I didn't see the game - US v Mexico broadcast here? lol

However, from FIFA interpretations, if Howard was instructed to restart the match, and then dawdled, I can see why, even if there were other problems, he was given the card, although it might have been a dumb call.

I doubt that was the case, Brother. The referee was in the middle of the usual melee after a dirty foul and subsequent red card. While the referee was restoring calm, Howard hobbled away from the group and tossed the ball in pain/frustration. Given the activities, it was a minute or so before any restart was possible.

[aldukes]

I doubt that was the case, Brother. The referee was in the middle of the usual melee after a dirty foul and subsequent red card. While the referee was restoring calm, Howard hobbled away from the group and tossed the ball in pain/frustration. Given the activities, it was a minute or so before any restart was possible.

Howard was shown a yellow card well after the pushing and shoving. He set up for the free kick ran up to the ball and stopped- not when he threw ball after the foul. I though it was a good yellow actually- it was a clear delay of game.

[Jason]

Guus Hiddink to replace Scolari at Chelsea. He is going to continue managing the Russia national team as well. Not the most obvious of choices if yoask me, but he is one of Abramovich's guys so not a huge surprise. Given his success at PSV, I'm sure Don has a comment or two about him.

Guus is used to instructing humble TEAMs, he'll have his hands full with Chelsea.

RED to MArquez was well spotted by the ref in a crowd, clearly was giving Howard a kick.

YELLOW to Howard, debatable for me, he was limping around for quite a while, I thought he was delaying due to his knee not working right. Whatever tho. Studs in the knee on a cold night can really have you limping for a while.

Weather looked miserable.

[pnoon]

Howard was shown a yellow card well after the pushing and shoving. He set up for the free kick ran up to the ball and stopped- not when he threw ball after the foul. I though it was a good yellow actually- it was a clear delay of game.

If that were the case then I agree.

I (or maybe those knucklehead announcers) thought it was for his earlier toss of the ball.

[Don Fernando]

Given his success at PSV, I'm sure Don has a comment or two about him.

He had success with PSV, I better keep my comments to myself, I don't want to be banned for foul language (I hate psv). PSV, Fenerbache, Chelski. What goes for Kuyt goes for Hiddink too, poor choice of teams.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I think that the US's passing is really letting them down. I thought the defence looked SOLID mostly, however I felt that the midfield broke down and went back to parking the bus way too quickly. Good on bradley for his finishes. It was pointed out in maybe the 60th minuteish that having people playing against the best teams and players in the world they're going to be better. Beasley is an example, plays for Rangers plays day in day out. *side note* does anyone find it odd that the officials for these games are always latino?

red card? yes no question led with the studs up against the keeper no looking for the ball.

tims yellow. The official awarded it to him after he ran towards the ball then stopped and backed up, restarted. yellow. solid call.

The defensive clears where horrific, resulted in tim howard getting spiked.

the general, toothlessness of the US to not take advantage of 11 v 10 tells the tale.

[pnoon]

*side note* does anyone find it odd that the officials for these games are always latino?


Odd? Not at all.

In CONCACAF play with the US, the officials will be either Canadian or Latino. No way around it, really.

(No disrespect intended to the officials from T&T, Jamaica, et. al. but they don't have the experience and toughness to officiate a match like US/Mexico)

[Lumpold]

Odd? Not at all.

In CONCACAF play with the US, the officials will be either Canadian or Latino. No way around it, really.

(No disrespect intended to the officials from T&T, Jamaica, et. al. but they don't have the experience and toughness to officiate a match like US/Mexico)

If you aren't careful, we'll send you Mike Riley.

[pnoon]

If you aren't careful, we'll send you Mike Riley.

:r :r :r

[theycallmedan'lboone]

If you aren't careful, we'll send you Mike Riley.

oh dear lord in heaven no.:bx

[Lumpold]

oh dear lord in heaven no.:bx

:r :r :r

No, really, you can have him, on us.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

thanks but no thanks.

It would appear that Nando torres has made it through the international week without an injury... PL teams... beware. Joe does this mean I should/not pick him up? If I am to catch you in our little fantasy league?

[Lumpold]

thanks but no thanks.

It would appear that Nando torres has made it through the international week without an injury... PL teams... beware. Joe does this mean I should/not pick him up? If I am to catch you in our little fantasy league?

it would seem he did, but then he didn't exactly go full whack for the game, I reckon he's still not entirely match fit. Let's hope Dirk 'Sloth' Kuyt puts the head back on his chicken, and gets the running sorted out.

[GTsetGO]

so what happened to Torres?? I haven't been paying attention to Liverpool as I am a Man U supporter. But he did score on one hell of a header this week.

[Lumpold]

Nothing happened to Torres, but to me he didn't look all that close to match fit...

[pnoon]

. . . I am a Man U supporter.

I've banned people for less. ;)

[theycallmedan'lboone]

so what happened to Torres?? I haven't been paying attention to Liverpool as I am a Man U supporter. But he did score on one hell of a header this week.

we'll try not to hold it against you...:rolleyes:;)

[GTsetGO]

sorry, can't help it. I have been a fan of them since i lived Europe. :D

[theycallmedan'lboone]

we won't hold it against you.....;-)

[Don Fernando]

sorry, can't help it. I have been a fan of them since i lived Europe. :D

and it's a good thing.

where in Europe did you live?

[GTsetGO]

i lived in Germany for 6 years. played soccer all over there place there and followed my brother while he played in highschool there. great times.

So much, my wife and i went there for two weeks on our honeymoon two summers ago. damn i want to go back there again.

[Don Fernando]

next time, have a stopover in Amsterdam and herf ;) oh, I see VA, well, I will be in VA in may and there is a Richmond herf that day (hint hint)

[GTsetGO]

next time, have a stopover in Amsterdam and herf ;) oh, I see VA, well, I will be in VA in may and there is a Richmond herf that day (hint hint)

the plan is to get a job over there in a few years and live there for a few. I loved growing up there and would go back in a heartbeat.

I am hoping to make it to the HERF in Richmond. Should be good times.

But back to soccer. Man U or Derby today????? Who's going to win. We all know who i am rooting for. :D

[theycallmedan'lboone]

umm I'm just guessing here, but I think the man u reserves would beat derby

[GTsetGO]

yeah, it was 4-1 with about 6 other attempts blocked or just not finished.

[Don Fernando]

there was a more important game yesterday, Ajax Amsterdam vs Feyenoord Rotterdam, the one and only true classic match we have in Holland. Ajax won (offcourse) 2-0 and hit the post 4 times.

[GTsetGO]

nice. i ended up watching the AC vs Inter game last night. 2-1 inter winning. great game

[Partagaspete]

yeah, it was 4-1 with about 6 other attempts blocked or just not finished.

Should have been 5-1 as Ronaldo was not off sides. What a late offsides flag that was.

[DrDubzz]

Should have been 5-1 as Ronaldo was not off sides. What a late offsides flag that was.

I think the linesmen felt sorry for them, it was pretty close either way

I thought Ronaldo's celebration on his header was... amusing, although I thought he looked retarded until I realized why he was doing that :r

[Jdbwolverines]

It would appear that Nando torres has made it through the international week without an injury... PL teams... beware. Joe does this mean I should/not pick him up? If I am to catch you in our little fantasy league?

The main problem with you adding Torres is that every time you add a Liverpool player to your team they immediately stop scoring goals. This would then not only doom your team, but also Liverpool. On another note, I think he is going to keep scoring goals, so it may only doom me.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

well it's too late, I done it. same day nick anelka scores a hat trick in the FA cup.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

The Theycallmedan'lboone Season Contest. Currently I have all of the responses below, season starts Sunday, I most likely won't be keeper. Lumpold I need how many goals allowed. Anybody else in? it's for a 5ver of cigars, Predict the Win/Loss/Draws from a 10 game season with the number of goals allowed and how many I score as the first and second tie breaker.

Don Fernando
I am going with 5-3-2 you will score twice and your defence will allow 11 goals.

Joey
I'm going with 3-4-3, You'll score 2 and allow 20

Jason
I know nothing of your league or Team Pittman but I'ma go with the classic 4-4-2 setup, a bit of a drought for you I'm afraid at 0 goals and your defense will allow an average of 1 per game so, 10.

Lumphold

The Misfits PL10 W3 L1 D6 GD+4
Daniel 'Jaime' Boone's season was highlighted by his only goal of the season, a sublime header from an inswinging corner, scoring the winning goal in a nail biting 4-3 victory over Arsenal.*

[Lumpold]

Oh. Er.... I go for your defence will let through...... 15 goals. Including one spooner of an own goal ;)

[pnoon]

And tomorrow . . . .


Go Fulham ! ! ! ! ! :)

[GTsetGO]

blasphemy.

[pnoon]

Yeah, baby. That's what I'm talkin' about.

:tpd:

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Go fulham!

[Don Fernando]

Go City!

[theycallmedan'lboone]

they'll need all the help they can get.. as will fulham...

[GTsetGO]

they'll need all the help they can get.. as will fulham...

that's what i like to read. :D

[theycallmedan'lboone]

well lets be real, fulham will need as much as they can get to beat/draw with united. GT you want a chance at a 5er of cigars? you should play in my contest!

[GTsetGO]

what is said contest?? show me the way and i will see.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

top o the page lad.

anybody else? beuller?

Pick how many wins/ties/losses my brand new team will have this season out of 10 games. Obviously I think we'll go 8-1-1. Tie breakers are how many goals will I score, and how many goals will my defense allow.

[GTsetGO]

well. don't i look like an ass. :D

*lifts skirt and heads to top of the page*

[GTsetGO]

Is this an adult league, regulation size field?? if so, this is my guess

7-2-1

goals scored - 4

goals allowed - 9

[theycallmedan'lboone]

regulationish field. mighty generous about 4 goals. did I mention I'm a big jamie carragher fan? If I score an own goal lumpold gets my humidor.

[GTsetGO]

yeah, forgot to ask what position you will be playing as you said you won't be playing keeper

[theycallmedan'lboone]

oh just about everywhere, utility player, defender, winger, striker, left back sweeper, goalie at least once I'm sure..

[GTsetGO]

I am my teams "starting" keeper and play right mid when the games are out of hand. We start the playoffs for the Co-ed season this saturday and then it is on to the fall over 30 league. those are always fun as our team is good for those seasons.

[Jason]

oh just about everywhere, utility player, defender, winger, striker, left back sweeper, goalie at least once I'm sure..

see if you can swing a spot as ref, I think your team will excel in that case ;)

I am not looking forward to the spring season here, I am 40 today and will likely be playing with my nephew and half his high school team. Not sure we'll be fielding a full squad every match. If I die before I have to pay up on this fantasy league just get hold of my wife and tell her which team you support, she'll have her orders and fill yours.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

wow, well don't drop dead old man, I've got 2 50+'s on my squad one striker, and one defender. You've got a long way to go.


on the ref note.. it might actually be called properly too.. ;-)

[GTsetGO]

MAN U 3 fulham 0

5 points on top of the EPL.

[Don Fernando]

Go Fulham :r

[GTsetGO]

Go Fulham :r

yeah, they kept it close. :tg

[Lumpold]

I am my teams "starting" keeper and play right mid when the games are out of hand. We start the playoffs for the Co-ed season this saturday and then it is on to the fall over 30 league. those are always fun as our team is good for those seasons.

Run that by me again... CO-ED SEASON? Seems to me there's a chance for... distraction tactics?

[Lumpold]

Just out of interest, with the recent Scouse-Fulham love, do we have any Chelski fans?

They really need to remember... There's only one club in Fulham... one club in Fulham...

[GTsetGO]

Run that by me again... CO-ED SEASON? Seems to me there's a chance for... distraction tactics?

yeah, it gets a little tough sometimes as i have 3 very attractive women on my team right now..

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I have 4, an Army LT with boobies that would make your head spin (if it's warm she always wants to play in a sports bra) my Fiance, who I always enjoy playing midfield when she's playing striker. and these two other vaguely attractive chicks.. vaguely. My season starts tomorrow lads, I'm 10/1 to score the opener ;-) just kidding... although if my fiance does score, I have to wear a cheerleader outfit to after match meal...

[Don Fernando]

i'de rather wear a cheerleader outfit then a liverpool kit anyday :r

[theycallmedan'lboone]

*sigh* one day don, I'm buying you that flat stale beer.

[GTsetGO]

well man u beat blackburn today. 8 point lead on the EPL.

and my team had their first round of the playoffs today. we won in a penalty kick shootout. but the fun part today was taking the studs of a cleat to my ballzack. ughh

[theycallmedan'lboone]

congrats! did you have the steely nerves to take a kick from the spot?

[GTsetGO]

i was going to go in the second round if it went that far. we won 4-3 on the PK's.

I stopped the first one. Should have blocked the second one and the 4th one the guy sent over the bar.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

dig it. My first match today, had two good opportunities go wasted for goals. we tied 0-0. Team we should have beaten. Guess we've got work to do.

[Bubba - NJ]

I watched the Liverpool vs Man City match today . Liverpool just seemed a bit too complacent , passes were too soft and off target . They were lucky to draw in my eyes and lost some valuable ground to Man U. Do they really miss Stevie G. that badly ? :confused:

[Mr.Italy]

MAN U 3 fulham 0

5 points on top of the EPL.

BOLOGNA 1 INTERNAZIONALE 2

9 points on top of the SERIE A


Tuesday Clashdown :ss

[GTsetGO]

nice.

7 points on top of the EPL now.

well, we lost yesterday in the Semi's of our tourney. kind of glad though. i need this 4 week break until the over 30 season starts.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

I watched the Liverpool vs Man City match today . Liverpool just seemed a bit too complacent , passes were too soft and off target . They were lucky to draw in my eyes and lost some valuable ground to Man U. Do they really miss Stevie G. that badly ? :confused:

yes and no. his goal scoring abilities, his Leader of Men abilities, but Xabi Alonso's passing would have won that game for us. Pool couldn't put 3 passes together.

**:eek:
LYON IS LEADING BARCA?

[Jason]

LYON IS LEADING BARCA?

Terrible keeping by Valdez, looked like he was about to pop it over then decided to watch it go into the net instead. Lyon played well but gave up an away goal at the end.

The Inter Manchester United game looked a lot like the Milan derby except Man U weren't suffering an ancient defensive back line and severe case of the Kaladzes. Manchester had the better of the game by far but Inter Mourinho'd what they needed from it, no away goal conceded. I think they needed more than to not concede at home but only time will tell

[Bubba - NJ]

yes and no. his goal scoring abilities, his Leader of Men abilities, but Xabi Alonso's passing would have won that game for us. Pool couldn't put 3 passes together.

**:eek:
LYON IS LEADING BARCA?

How long is Xabi suspended for ?

[mastershogun]

Terrible keeping by Valdez, looked like he was about to pop it over then decided to watch it go into the net instead. Lyon played well but gave up an away goal at the end.

no idea what valdez was doing :fl:fl
I was pretty worried till henry scored... not the biggest henry fan, especially when he first came over, but today i was glad he was there... also thought he was going to hit his head on the post

[Jdbwolverines]

How long is Xabi suspended for ?

Just one, too many yellows. Picked a bad time though, 'pool could have really used him vs man city. With him or Gerrard, they pry would have won by 3 goals.

[Jason]

... also thought he was going to hit his head on the post

pretty damn smooth rollout

[theycallmedan'lboone]

not bad, although I think I would have gone with a foot.. but then he is Henry, and I am Pittman the Terrible.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

IT would appear that Benitez is close to moving on From Anfield... according to the bookies...http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=622304&sec=england&cc=5901

[Jason]

IT would appear that Benitez is close to moving on From Anfield... according to the bookies...http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=622304&sec=england&cc=5901

Reeck Parry says bye bye at end of season. Should be an interesting summer for Liverpool. They're as close to bankruptcy as any big club ever has been. Good luck pool fans.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

*sigh*.

[aldukes]

pretty damn smooth rollout

Arseshavin and a Brazilian? pretty smooth Voyeur.

[aldukes]

*sigh*.

sorry about today booney- theres always next year.

[pnoon]

*sigh*.

:tpd:

Boro?!?!?!!? C'mon guys. :sad

[theycallmedan'lboone]

we can beat Real solidly at their house but can't beat boro at theirs... hell we couldn't score.. you could see it on Stevens and Jamies faces when they were on the bench.

update on team Pittman:
Pittman has torn his mcl... damaged the ACL and is out for minimum 4 weeks.. at a practice no less, from one of my own team mates. so far 0 goals scored by me, 0 goals scored against...:al

[Jason]

Arseshavin and a Brazilian? pretty smooth Voyeur.

get the tank!

[Jason]

:tpd:

Boro?!?!?!!? C'mon guys. :sad

At least I don't have to sit through another weekly wrap show listening to Gareth Southgate saying all the
same
old
manager-speak. :wo

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Ribery is going to move to united..? to replace ronaldo because he's going to move to Real and up their pace, I wanted to see Ribery in the EPL, but on my team.. having a bloody real right winger would be nice.

[Bubba - NJ]

Ribery had one hell of a game last week . 2 goals , 2 assists and a touch on Klose's goal also . That scar he has makes him look like he ought to be in a Bond film . 007 villian if you know what I mean .

[theycallmedan'lboone]

bubba, i agree, he'd make a good villian, minus the french accent.. have you seen the video of him and luca toni? wie ghets? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lofx_ribery-vs-toni-the-grand-final_sport)

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Seriously, Liverpool? where the hell was this on Sunday?
WTF!!!!!! Lucas in for a 18 year old striker who can run for years? wtf
Screw controlling the game, run the effing score up!

[aldukes]

bubba, i agree, he'd make a good villian, minus the french accent.. have you seen the video of him and luca toni? wie ghets? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lofx_ribery-vs-toni-the-grand-final_sport)

Ribery is almost as ugly as tevez- but the video is still pretty good.

[pnoon]

Ribery is almost as ugly as tevez- but the video is still pretty good.

That's funny. I was thinking the same thing.
Those two could captain the all-ugly team.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

and Emilio Insua can run the reserves! AHAH! anyways..

fantasy update:
I believe that I personally can concede that the title is JDB's to lose (much like United's title) I am currently 46 points behind him with St Lou Stu being 40 points behind me. While our some of our main point getters are the same, I am out of transfers, so I need some of my fringe players to start scoring, and his to stop. Unless they're liverpool players.. yossi... so, Joey I practically concede. the odds are slim. I cry. Well played sir.

1 Jdbwolverines Jdbwolverines 1060
2 TEAMOFCARRAGHERS Dan'lboone 1014
3 Heritage St. Lou Stu 974
4 SOS FC yayson 918
5 Lakeland Wednesday T. Tripoli 841
6 aldukes aldukes 826
7 CS Scousers P NOON 788
8 Leeds Ga. Aracos 750
9 Buckeye's Bashers reggiebuckeye 717
10 Trudy Tours TTOURS 596

[Jason]

update on team Pittman:
Pittman has torn his mcl... damaged the ACL and is out for minimum 4 weeks.

Missed that! Hang in there man, you'll be back in no time

[theycallmedan'lboone]

thanks jason!

"you sir are a rubbish footballer"
"well, you're ugly"
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=624926&sec=england&cc=5901

Taylor supposedly told Ronaldo he was a rubbish footballer and ronaldo said taylor was ugly... or something like that... Todd Tripoli said "If you heard that Drogba and I got in a row in the tunnel. The story would have been how I punched Drogba in the brain. Not calling him names."

:r:r

[Bubba - NJ]

bubba, i agree, he'd make a good villian, minus the french accent.. have you seen the video of him and luca toni? wie ghets? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lofx_ribery-vs-toni-the-grand-final_sport)

Thank you for that , good video .

[theycallmedan'lboone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OX3NuNAEQQ&feature=related

the special one TV.

[pnoon]

Brilliant.

Totally dominated Real Madrid. 1-0 in Spain. 4-0 at Anfield.

So why can't they play like that against Boro?

[mastershogun]

not a huge chelsea fan but i have it give it to hiddink.... i'm torn.
i just hope he stays with russia

[Don Fernando]

Brilliant.

Totally dominated Real Madrid. 1-0 in Spain. 4-0 at Anfield.

So why can't they play like that against Boro?

because the ref didn't give Liverpool a 2-0 lead against Boro?

[pnoon]

because the ref didn't give Liverpool a 2-0 lead against Boro?

I have to agree that was a harsh call but if you watched the whole match, Liverpool totally dominated the game. Were it not for some terrific saves by Casillas, RM would have been down 3-0 before that call. The Spanish side was never a factor.

[Don Fernando]

I know Peter, but I love to push your buttons :ss

Seen part of the game, Liverpool deserved to win and they did.

[pnoon]

I know Peter, but I love to push your buttons :ss

Seen part of the game, Liverpool deserved to win and they did.

Nah. You didn't push any buttons. You made a valid point.
In real time, the penalty looked like the right call. The replay showed differently. I can see how the AR made the decision he did. I will give him credit, though. It was right in front of him and he never hesitated.

[Mr.Italy]

Tonight the game Man.U - Inter ......

[aldukes]

ManU by 40

[Mr.Italy]

Nice game. Now go Manchester until the end.

MY evening is been good anyhow as I smoked a great DC of SLR .

[GTsetGO]

Man U/Liverpool Saturday


What's the wager? :D

[Don Fernando]

all in on Man U :)

[pnoon]

Depends on which Liverpool team shows up. The one that played Boro or the one that played Real Madrid.

[Don Fernando]

doesn't matter Peter, send both teams 22 vs 11 and Man U will still win.

[pnoon]

doesn't matter Peter, send both teams 22 vs 11 and Man U will still win.

Pfft.

If the team that played RM shows up, ManU is toast. Did you see the match? They played like champions. Anything less and, I agree, ManU will get the result.

[mastershogun]

tough call... both will be on a high after their wins in the CL.
I think i'm going to lean towards manu taking this one

[Don Fernando]

Pfft.

If the team that played RM shows up, ManU is toast. Did you see the match? They played like champions. Anything less and, I agree, ManU will get the result.

I saw part of the match, but that was tuesday's match and we're talking about a completely other match, different opponent, you can't compare Man U with Real Madrid at all.

[adampc22]

I saw part of the match, but that was tuesday's match and we're talking about a completely other match, different opponent, you can't compare Man U with Real Madrid at all.

i know what i wud like to compare man u with tho starts with s ends with t

[Don Fernando]

saint

[Don Fernando]

found this clip of Holland vs France at Euro 2008, what a game CLICK (http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/146271/cf5a4c8d/nederland_frankrijk_met_jack_.html)

[pnoon]

doesn't matter Peter, send both teams 22 vs 11 and Man U will still win.

Hellooooo. Hey Ferdinand. Did ya happen to see the match? I couldn't as my cable provider is showing Everton/Stoke, Bolton/Fulham, and Hull/Newcastle. WTF??!?!?!

Anyway, I think the 4-1 win was decisive. And we only needed 11. ;)

[Lumpold]

Hellooooo. Hey Ferdinand. Did ya happen to see the match? I couldn't as my cable provider is showing Everton/Stoke, Bolton/Fulham, and Hull/Newcastle. WTF??!?!?!

Anyway, I think the 4-1 win was decisive. And we only needed 11. ;)

I think Ferdinand's quote is what is known as 'double dutch' over here - or utter rubbish elsewhere. Cracking game... not gonna comment on Man U's penalty, but otherwise we rocked the kop from Mancland.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Robert is Happy. 45% to 50% possession according to skysports, but liverpool had 5 shots on goal. 4 of them went in. United were threatening but only because of liverpool mistakes. the first 3 goals were because of mistakes. Reina knew seconds before that he should try to stop, just couldn't. Vidic had an off game and gerrard and torres took full advantage. I think Dossena should partner torres... two games, two goals.

[Don Fernando]

I haven't seen the game, but congrats to the Liverpool fans. Guess that smack talking can really bite me in the ass. Premier league hasn't been decided yet today.

[Partagaspete]

Hellooooo. Hey Ferdinand. Did ya happen to see the match? I couldn't as my cable provider is showing Everton/Stoke, Bolton/Fulham, and Hull/Newcastle. WTF??!?!?!

Anyway, I think the 4-1 win was decisive. And we only needed 11. ;)

Talk all the smack you want my man. Lets see how many championships Liverpool brings home this year versus how many Man you brings. Other than that all I have to say is well played match by Liverpool.

Robert is Happy. 45% to 50% possession according to skysports, but liverpool had 5 shots on goal. 4 of them went in. United were threatening but only because of liverpool mistakes. the first 3 goals were because of mistakes. Reina knew seconds before that he should try to stop, just couldn't. Vidic had an off game and gerrard and torres took full advantage. I think Dossena should partner torres... two games, two goals.

Good points all around.

T

[theycallmedan'lboone]

gracias senor, you should swing through more often... jason gets boring most times.;)

[Lumpold]

A shirt for Don Fernando... (http://www.soccerprint.co.uk/shop/liverpool/liverpool-fc-old-trafford-demolition-1-4-scoreline-t-shirt.html) or just Liverpool fans! :ss

[Don Fernando]

Talk all the smack you want my man. Lets see how many championships Liverpool brings home this year versus how many Man you brings. Other than that all I have to say is well played match by Liverpool.




none vs 5

Charity Shield, League Cup, World Cup for clubteams, Premier League and the Champions League are all for Man U this year.

[Don Fernando]

A shirt for Don Fernando... (http://www.soccerprint.co.uk/shop/liverpool/liverpool-fc-old-trafford-demolition-1-4-scoreline-t-shirt.html) or just Liverpool fans! :ss

a shirt like that says it all, you never see the bigger team making shirts like that :ss

[Lumpold]

a shirt like that says it all, you never see the bigger team making shirts like that :ss

If only it was an official shirt ;)

However, if it was Everton, they'd make a DVD.

[Don Fernando]

If only it was an official shirt ;)

However, if it was Everton, they'd make a DVD.

a DVD is always fun :ss The Dutch FA decided to install playoff's at the end of the season to decide which team got the 2nd CL tickets and which teams went to the UEFA cup a couple of years ago. Ajax Amsterdam (my team) had a dramatic season and lost both competition games to Feyenoord Rotterdam, our all time rivals who we usually beat, both home and away. Feyenoord was so happy about it that they released a double dvd with both games on it. End of season, playoffs, and Ajax did their usual smackdown of Feyenoord again, beating them twice in a few days and getting the final CL ticket :r

[Lumpold]

I must admit to loving Feyenoord just for the picture of 'that kid'... I'm sure you know the one I mean. I bet you that DVD is still one of their top selling items though.... Everton have a single DVD of 3-0 over us, lucky them.

[pnoon]

Talk all the smack you want my man. Lets see how many championships Liverpool brings home this year versus how many Man you brings. Other than that all I have to say is well played match by Liverpool.

Now where did you see me talking smack?
DF claimed 'pool could play 22 vs. ManU and still lose. I was merely putting his smack talk where it belonged. :)

[Partagaspete]

Now where did you see me talking smack?
DF claimed 'pool could play 22 vs. ManU and still lose. I was merely putting his smack talk where it belonged. :)


I think Ferdinand meant on a good day which this was not for Man U. and even that he exaggerated a bit...by at least 3-4 players. So on a good day I would agree that Man U could beat Liverpool if liverpool had 18 palyers:D

Seriously, I think the loss will be good for the team and great fodder for a coach to use for the future. A humbling experience for sure.

T

[theycallmedan'lboone]

pete, I would retort that On a good day liverpool could destroy the likes of anyone in Europe. SO on a good day for liverpool and Manchester united, I think the earth would shatter. Pepe Reina had a key contribution in fantasy... hilarious. Too bad I didn't have dosenna in my squad.

Manure, still in command, dropped the first points since december, they're going to have to give up 4 more to give liverpool/chelsea a chance. if they do drop any points, May shall be interesting. If Liverpool can continue to score 4 out of ever 5 shots, I think we'll be ok.

LIVERPOOL *clap clap clap* Liverpool.

and don fernando, if you want to say "big clubs" "who's bigger than liverpool?"

[Don Fernando]

and don fernando, if you want to say "big clubs" "who's bigger than liverpool?"

Manchester United, Real Madrid (even though Liverpool kicked the **** out of them), AC Milan.

[theycallmedan'lboone]

Liverpool officially has the ugliest set of players in the EPL:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5060380,00.html
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/insua/
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/skrtel/
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/benayoun/
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/kuyt/

while Tevez is IMHO the ugliest SOB in the EPL, liverpool has a set of ugly mugs.

real quick... skysports, soccernet and a few others are all calling vidic's foul on S. Gerrard to be a "professional foul", I was under the impression that in the Laws of the Game, it was called "Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity". anyone's thoughts? jason?

[aldukes]

are we going to re-hash the "professional foul" thing again? :ss

I'm still not sold that Stevie G didn't pull Vidic down.


Liverpool officially has the ugliest set of players in the EPL:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_5060380,00.html
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/insua/
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/skrtel/
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/benayoun/
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/kuyt/

while Tevez is IMHO the ugliest SOB in the EPL, liverpool has a set of ugly mugs.

real quick... skysports, soccernet and a few others are all calling vidic's foul on S. Gerrard to be a "professional foul", I was under the impression that in the Laws of the Game, it was called "Denying an Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity". anyone's thoughts? jason?

[theycallmedan'lboone]

aldukes, if the ugly serbian had you by the ballsack wouldn't you pull him to?

[Lumpold]

aldukes, if the ugly serbian had you by the ballsack wouldn't you pull him to?
I was about to say...
http://www.gotyatackle.com/store/images/UBInstantBait.jpg
Don't bait the Kop.

[Partagaspete]

I was about to say...
http://www.gotyatackle.com/store/images/UBInstantBait.jpg
Don't bait the Kop.

:rLOL

[Don Fernando]

Liverpool - Chelsea for the CL. Manchester United - Liverpool will be the final.

[mastershogun]

Quarter Finals (April 7th-8th, April 14th-15th, 2009)
1. Villarreal vs Arsenal
2. Manchester United vs Porto
3. Liverpool vs Chelsea
4. Barcelona vs Bayern

Semi Finals (April 28th-29th, May 5th-6th, 2009)
5. Winner of Match 2 vs Winner of Match 1
6. Winner of Match 4 vs Winner of Match 3

Final (May 27th, 2009, Rome)
Winner of Match 6 vs Winner of Match 5


Quarter Finals (Apr 9, 16)
Hamburg
Manchester City

Paris Saint-Germain
Dynamo Kiev

Shakhtar Donetsk
Marseille

Werder Bremen
Udinese

[theycallmedan'lboone]

yes, going to be nice me thinks. Liverpool Chelsea... well... to say I'm looking forward to beating chelsea a possible 4 times in 1 season... wouldn't be bad. I would think that Liverpool's got a shot, United Have the easiest road, with Arsenal being the toughest option, Liverpool must beat Chelsea, and then Barca.... My brain says barca v united in the final, but well.. we all know what my heart says.

[Jdbwolverines]

Liverpool - Chelsea for the CL. Manchester United - Liverpool will be the final.

:tpd: UEFA way to give ManU the Porto draw. Oh well, just another chance for Liverpool to embarrass Man U another time this season, much like they are about to do the Chelsea

[aldukes]

aldukes, if the ugly serbian had you by the ballsack wouldn't you pull him to?

depends how many drinks ive had. :fu

[Lumpold]

Keeping 11 players on the pitch doesn't appear to be in Alex Ferguson's current game plans.

[Don Fernando]

:tpd: UEFA way to give ManU the Porto draw. Oh well, just another chance for Liverpool to embarrass Man U another time this season, much like they are about to do the Chelsea

Liverpool may have beaten Man U once this season, won't happen twice.