New York Mets 2012 Banter

[BigAsh]

Up yours!! :D

Mets are so far BELOW its gotta be UP!!! :r.....


There's always 2017....:D

[Dave128]

Still not on the bottom yet!

[Dave128]

Mets Sweep the Marlins at home!! All is still not lost!! On top of that, Dickey has a shot at 20 wins! What an awesome season!

[kelmac07]

Still not at the bottom. :wo :wo My idea of a successful season was as long we didn't finish in the cellar...and that still holds true. So, we still have a little hope left.

While I believe Dickey should get a lot of consideration for the NL Cy Young award as he is in almost every pitching category top 3, and still has a slight chance for the pitching Triple Crown. I truly believe he will not get the votes because he plays on a losing team, which is total BS...but it is what it is. Just as he was shunned at the All Star game...he should have started that game, PERIOD!!

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Still not at the bottom. :wo :wo My idea of a successful season was as long we didn't finish in the cellar...and that still holds true. So, we still have a little hope left.

While I believe Dickey should get a lot of consideration for the NL Cy Young award as he is in almost every pitching category top 3, and still has a slight chance for the pitching Triple Crown. I truly believe he will not get the votes because he plays on a losing team, which is total BS...but it is what it is. Just as he was shunned at the All Star game...he should have started that game, PERIOD!!

Dickey should have started the All Star game IMO. Also, not sure he would win Cy even if the Mets were winning, just my thought.

[jonumberone]

I truly believe he will not get the votes because he plays on a losing team, which is total BS...but it is what it is. !

I think you're totally off base here!
If this was a race for the MVP, you might have a point.
The Cy Young, especially of late, usually goes to the best pitcher in the league, regardless of the teams record.
In 2010, King Felix won the AL Cy with a W-L record of 13-12, playing for a Seattle team that went 61-101.
Dickey may lose the Cy Young, but it won't be because he plays for the Mets.
Unlike Verlander last year, he has legitimate competition for the award.

[kelmac07]

The Cy Young, especially of late, usually goes to the best pitcher in the league, regardless of the teams record.
In 2010, King Felix won the AL Cy with a W-L record of 13-12, playing for a Seattle team that went 61-101.
Dickey may lose the Cy Young, but it won't be because he plays for the Mets.
Unlike Verlander last year, he has legitimate competition for the award.

With Cueto, Gonzalez, Kershaw as the primary candidates (all on playoff bound teams) Dickey will not evercome these three (wait til the votes are released). While Chapman, and Kimbrell have been thrown into the conversation, I don't feel the Cy Young should go to the top reliever...they already have an award the Rolaids Relief Man Award. But Chapman and Kimbrell will gather voters for the CY Young...and lots of them according to sports reporters.

[yachties23]

I think you're totally off base here!
If this was a race for the MVP, you might have a point.
The Cy Young, especially of late, usually goes to the best pitcher in the league, regardless of the teams record.
In 2010, King Felix won the AL Cy with a W-L record of 13-12, playing for a Seattle team that went 61-101.
Dickey may lose the Cy Young, but it won't be because he plays for the Mets.
Unlike Verlander last year, he has legitimate competition for the award.

I'm with Dom here. Honestly its between Gio Gonzalez and Dickey. They both have been great all year, I think if Dickey gets to 20 wins he has a very good chance of winning it. 3 complete game shutouts, tons of strikeouts, better era, but with Gonzalez having 20 already, I think Dickey has to get to 20 in order to win the award.

[kelmac07]

I realy hope you guys prove me wrong. :D

[Dave128]

Another win??!! The Mets are finally making their playoff run!

[kelmac07]

Five in a row. Holy *&%#!!!! As long as it helps with staying out of the cellar.

[kelmac07]

The Mets hit back-to-back homers for the first time this season on Tuesday, when Justin Turner and David Wright took Rodriguez deep in the first inning. It marked Wright's sixth 20-homer season, tying Mike Piazza for second most all time in Mets history. Darryl Strawberry holds the record with eight. Wright also tied Ed Kranepool for most hits in franchise history at 1,418 later in the game.

In half the time it took Kranepool to do it as well. :tu :tu

[Dave128]

I hope the Mets make the correct decision and offer Wright a really nice contract.

[kelmac07]

Wright passes Kranepool as Mets' all-time hits king.

The record-setting knock came in the third inning Wednesday, when Wright dribbled an infield single down the third-base line for his 1,419th career hit. With that, he snapped a tie with Kranepool to become the franchise's all-time hits leader in his ninth big league season. The Mets honored him with a brief video tribute on the center-field video board, as the Citi Field crowd saluted him with a standing ovation.

An inning later, he added hit No. 1,420 to his career total with another single in the fourth.

Congrats David!! :tu :tu

[Dave128]

That's awesome! I hope the Mets management shows him some love in a few weeks.

[Dave128]

Mets beat the Pirates 6-5 (the bullpen tried to blow it in the 9th)! Wright hits HR number 21 and Dickey gets his 20th win!!

[kelmac07]

Congrats to RA Dickey...13 strikeouts in his 20th win. And a Mets win!! :tu :tu

[yachties23]

Congrats to RA Dickey...13 strikeouts in his 20th win. And a Mets win!! :tu :tu

Might have just locked up the CY Young.

[kelmac07]

Might have just locked up the CY Young.

Keeping my fingers crossed Dave. :D

[Dave128]

Me, too.

[kelmac07]

Being six games up on the Marlins with only five games left...we are left with at least a
4th place finish. Dickey won 20 and SHOULD be in contention for the NL Cy Young.

Hey...at least we didn't finish in the cellar. :D

[Dave128]

That's cause for celebration right there, Mac!

[jonumberone]

Being six games up on the Marlins with only five games left...we are left with at least a
4th place finish. Dickey won 20 and SHOULD be in contention for the NL Cy Young.

Hey...at least we didn't finish in the cellar. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-3ve1yXjto

:D

[kelmac07]

That's us Dom. :D

[Justinphilly]

I think that Gonzalez is your NL Cy Young winner. I hate to say it.

[kelmac07]

I think that Gonzalez is your NL Cy Young winner. I hate to say it.

Blow it out your a$$ Justin. :bh :bh

[Justinphilly]

Blow it out your a$$ Justin. :bh :bh

Jeez, I don't want Gonzalez to win, that's why I said I hate to say it. I think Dickey has had a great year and is deserving. I just think the Nats are this year's NL Darlings and may get the vote. Sorry!!

[kelmac07]

Jeez, I don't want Gonzalez to win, that's why I said I hate to say it. I think Dickey has had a great year and is deserving. I just think the Nats are this year's NL Darlings and may get the vote. Sorry!!

Nothing personal Justin. I'm with you in believing that Gio is gonna get the majority of the votes because he plays on a winner, and Dickey plays on the Mets with a losing record (again). :bh :bh

[Justinphilly]

Cool. I hate the Nats more than anyone so is rather anyone win it over Gonzalez.

[yachties23]

Nothing personal Justin. I'm with you in believing that Gio is gonna get the majority of the votes because he plays on a winner, and Dickey plays on the Mets with a losing record (again). :bh :bh

I absolutely disagree. The Cy has gone to plenty of guys on bad teams, unlike the MVP which typically goes to a guy on a playoff bound team. I think now that he capped off 20 wins, there is no question Dickey is the favorite for the CY.

[Justinphilly]

I just think the media is so in love with the Nationals it makes me vomit.

[Dave128]

I absolutely disagree. The Cy has gone to plenty of guys on bad teams, unlike the MVP which typically goes to a guy on a playoff bound team. I think now that he capped off 20 wins, there is no question Dickey is the favorite for the CY.

Your mouth to the voting Gods ears!

[kelmac07]

Chris...I wish that was true. But mark my words...Dickey finishes 3rd or 4th in voting.

[363]

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[kelmac07]

Very cool Brendon. :D

[kelmac07]

Mets close out the season wth a 4-2 victory over the Marlins. Finish 74-88 and in 4th place..which is one position higher than I predicted. :D

[Dave128]

I'm pleased. I'm calling this a successful season!

[The Poet]

Hey, I understand Bobby Valentine is looking for a job. Any takers in Queens? :D

[GTsetGO]

Mets close out the season wth a 4-2 victory over the Marlins. Finish 74-88 and in 4th place..which is one position higher than I predicted. :D

that's why you set the bar low Mac. that way you are never dissappointed.

now let's see what my Nat's and Orioles can do in the playoffs.

[kelmac07]

NEW YORK -- In perhaps a hint at further hardware to come, Mets pitcher R.A. Dickey took home his first offseason award Monday evening when the MLB Players Association revealed its annual Players Choice Awards.

Dickey took home Outstanding Pitcher honors in the National League, as voted by his peers. It's a promising sign for Dickey leading up to the Nov. 14 announcement of the NL Cy Young Award, considering that four of the NL's last five Outstanding Pitchers went on to win the Cy.

Dickey submitted his best season ever in 2012, going 20-6 with a 2.73 ERA and 230 strikeouts. At age 37, he led the NL in innings, strikeouts, shutouts and complete games, ranking second in both ERA and wins. Following his final start of the season, Dickey revealed that he had been pitching since April with a torn abdominal muscle, which he had surgically repaired last month.

To become the NL's Outstanding Pitcher, Dickey beat out fellow finalists Gio Gonzalez of the Nationals and Johnny Cueto of the Reds, both of whom figure to receive significant Cy Young support. The Dodgers' Clayton Kershaw and the Braves' Craig Kimbrel also should factor into the Cy Young vote, which will be revealed next Wednesday at 6 p.m. ET on MLB Network.

But the odds-on Cy Young favorite for months has been Dickey, whose story includes a decadelong slog through the Minors, a rebirth with the Mets as a knuckleballer in 2010, a book deal and starring role in a documentary, a climb up Mount Kilimanjaro, a 20-win season and now this: the first of what certainly will be many awards to come.

"The award would obviously be nice," Dickey said of the Cy in September. "That would be silly to say that it wouldn't be fantastic. But at the same time, you've got to be able to lay your head on your pillow, whether you've won it or not, and know that you've done your best. And I can do that.

"A 20-win season is also very difficult to get, and thankfully we've been able to do that. So at the very least, to be able to say that you were a 20-game winner for the New York Mets? That's pretty significant for me."

Adding to his offseason intrigue, Dickey's future with the Mets is currently in flux, with the two sides attempting to negotiate a long-term contract extension -- and bracing for the potential of a blockbuster trade if they cannot reach an agreement. But if either party needed reminder of the knuckleballer's greatness in 2012, the Players Choice Awards on Monday provided it.

[kelmac07]

now let's see what my Nat's and Orioles can do in the playoffs.

How'd that work out for ya Rob? :r :r :r

[jonumberone]

Reports on the FAN that the Mets just cut ties with Jason Bay.
Reportedly they agreed to a 19 million $ buyout.

[kelmac07]

Reports on the FAN that the Mets just cut ties with Jason Bay.
Reportedly they agreed to a 19 million $ buyout.

It's about damn time. Another Minaya deal that blew up in our faces. Add this contract to the Castillo and Perez deals as complete failures. More millions being paid to a player not wearing the orange and blue. :bh :bh

[jonumberone]

Reports on the FAN that the Mets just cut ties with Jason Bay.
Reportedly they agreed to a 19 million $ buyout.

reports are now, Bay will receive the full $21 million he is owed, but he has agreed to defer some of the money.
No details yet on how much he has deferred, or for how long.
I hope this is another Bonillia type deal, that will have the Mets paying Jason Bay until he's 90 years old. :D

[kelmac07]

reports are now, Bay will receive the full $21 million he is owed, but he has agreed to defer some of the money.
No details yet on how much he has deferred, or for how long.
I hope this is another Bonillia type deal, that will have the Mets paying Jason Bay until he's 90 years old. :D

Surely the Wilpons can't be that stupid. :bh :bh

[Dave128]

Let's hope not, Mac, let's hope not. Management needs the money to make deals with Wright and Dickey.

[yachties23]

Also hearing Mets are looking to trade Dickey.

[kelmac07]

Also hearing Mets are looking to trade Dickey.

What?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????

[Dave128]

Yup. I read that today too. They're afraid to spend top dollar on a 38 yo pitcher.

[BigAsh]

Also hearing Mets are looking to trade Dickey.

What?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????

send him to the AL west!

[MedicCook]

Dickey to the Yankees for A-Roid.
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[kelmac07]

Dickey to the Yankees for A-Roid.
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Not a chance Ryan!!

[The Poet]

Dickey to the Yankees for A-Roid.
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Not a chance Ryan!!


I agree, Mac.


Dickey's done it once, and Alex has HOF numbers. :r

[kelmac07]

I agree, Mac.


Dickey's done it once, and Alex has HOF numbers. :r

True...but I just don't want Arod. :r :r :r

[MedicCook]

I don't want the Yankees to have A-Roid either. They are stuck with him though.

[kelmac07]

Storybook year ends in NL Cy Young for Dickey. Righty becomes first knuckleballer, third Mets pitcher to win award. :tu :tu

[Dave128]

That's awesome!!

[jonumberone]

Kershaw was robbed!

[yachties23]

Kershaw was robbed!

LOL

[kelmac07]

Kershaw was robbed!

Bite me Dom. :r :r

[jonumberone]

LOL

Bite me Dom. :r :r

:D

[kelmac07]

Meys supposedly offered Wright $ 135 million for seven years. We'll see.

[Dave128]

Doesn't sound like a bad deal to me, but since he already gets $16 mil/yr, do you think that's a low-ball offer? Might just be all the Mets can afford, especially if they are planning to make an offer to Dickey.

[BigAsh]

My hope, for the sake of "banter fun", is that the Mets sign neither Wright nor Dickey...ahhhh, holiday wishes.... :D

[jonumberone]

My hope, for the sake of "banter fun", is that the Mets sign neither Wright nor Dickey...ahhhh, holiday wishes.... :D

This is where we differ, Keith.
I hope the Mets sign both Wright and Dickey, and then I hope they both get STD's! :D :noon

[Dave128]

:fp2

[BigAsh]

This is where we differ, Keith.
I hope the Mets sign both Wright and Dickey, and then I hope they both get STD's!...

:r:r:r:r:r....I like your wish-list better!!

[jonumberone]

Mets sign Wright to a 7 year $122 million extension.

[Dave128]

It's about time the Mets did something right. Now they need to work on keeping Dickey on the roster.

[VersionX]

Supposedly with the option it'll be 8/138, surpassing Santana's deal by $.5MM to be the largest in franchise history.

Anyone else think this is actually a bargain for the Mets?

[kelmac07]

Mets sign Wright to a 7 year $122 million extension.

I like this!! :tu :tu Now let's get Dicket wrapped up for 3-4 years.

[Dave128]

I like this!! :tu :tu Now let's get Dicket wrapped up for 3-4 years.

Who's Dicket? :D

[kelmac07]

Who's Dicket? :D

Damn fat fingers. :r :r :r

[Dave128]

You never know, he may be a new minor leaguer moving up in the ranks.

[jonumberone]

You never know, he may be a new minor leaguer moving up in the ranks.

Second coming of Generation K? :D

[VersionX]

A 2013 rotation consisting of Dickey/Santana/Niese/Harvey/Wheeler (maybe) would be actually intimidating. Too bad the lineup is Wright, Davis and 7 ?'s.

[mase]

Mac, thoughts on the impending Dickey trade?

[kelmac07]

Mac, thoughts on the impending Dickey trade?

Kevin. I can't understand why the Mets ownership isn't ponying up the funds to resign Dickey. It's not like he's asking for a ton. His numbers are better then Grienkes in the past two years, granted he's older...but he only wants a three year deal around $ 13-15 million a year. This is the same group that signed Oliver Perez to 3 years, $ 36 million. He's a knuckleballer and has been healthy the past three years. With the Mets pitching issues...to me, this a no brainer. :bh :bh

If we can pick up d'Arnaud or J.P. Arencibia, in addition to outfielder Anthony Gose...it makes sense. We pick up a catcher and a centerfielder. But we still need to address pitching issues...both starters and the bullpen.

[mase]

Totally agree, Mac. Aside from the no hitter, Dickey was the lone bright spot on the 2012 Mets. I'm not exactly sure what Alderson has done right. Trading Pagan for Torres? I'm not crazy about Pagan, but I'd say the Mets got a nickel on the dollar in that trade.

It's super cheap and petty to trade Dickey away after winning the Cy Young. I know we need young talent, but this catching prospect has had knee surgery - not really a great sign, is it?

[kelmac07]

Another typical Mets move. At least we aren't trading him for another "over the hill" free agent. :r :r

[Dave128]

Another typical Mets move. At least we aren't trading him for another "over the hill" free agent. :r :r

Yet........

[kelmac07]

It's official...Toronto acquired Dickey, catcher Josh Thole and Minor League catcher Mike Nickeas in the seven-player trade that was announced Monday evening. The Mets received top catching prospect Travis d'Arnaud, right-hander Noah Syndergaard, catcher John Buck and Minor Leaguer Wuilmer Becerra.

Not sure how I fell about this. If Toronto had thrown in Anthony Gose, I might be a little happier. We fixed the catching problem...but lost an already depleted pitching staff and still haven't addressed the centerfield position.

[jonumberone]

I was all for the Mets trading Dickey.
Let's face it, the Mets are more than a few years away from being a serious contender, and at 38 years old, Dickey, more than likely, won't be a part of any Met team that makes it deep into the playoffs.
That said, when I heard the extension he signed was for 2 yrs 25 million, I had to wonder WTF they were doing.
I had heard rumors of the extension he wanted in the 4 yr 48 million dollar range.
Figured he'd get 3 @ 34 with a 4th year mutual option, which would be more than a fair price for the Mets to pay.
At 2 years 25 mil, Dickey is a steal. :2

[kelmac07]

At 2 years 25 mil, Dickey is a steal. :2

True!! It's not like he was asking for the farm. And the Mets gave that up for basically a cathing prospect. :confused: :confused:

Yet again, Mets leadership proves it hasn't got a clue. :bh :bh

[kelmac07]

From Mets.com this morning..."Alderson expects offseason to pick up pace"...great move Sandy...after all the decent free agents have been scoured over and already signed.

As of today, the Mets are the ONLY team n the league to have not signed a free agent. Our lineup and pitching staff is so stacked I guess Alderson didn't feel the need to make a move. Outfield is going to stink it up this year, as well as the bullpen...again!! I truly am beginning to seriously buy into the fact that until the Wilpons sell this team, we will not win. :bh :bh :bh :bh

[jonumberone]

Mac, just say the word and I'll overnight you all the Yankees gear you ever wanted! :D

[kelmac07]

Mac, just say the word and I'll overnight you all the Yankees gear you ever wanted! :D

Ain't gonna happen brother!! :su :su

On another note, hopefully today is the day Piazza gets elected to the Hall of Fame!!

[kelmac07]

Time to wrap this one up. 2013 started here...

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=60230