Wristwatch collectors out there?

[Sancho]

Anyone? I've got into it some just looking for something to wear around work and for more formal occasions. Anyone got anything fun?

[gettysburgfreak]

Right now I dont collect as I don't have the money but I love a nice watch. Ive got a Seiko Chronograph and a Kenneth Cole automatic movt with the moon phase, date, and hour dials, I love it.

[FriskyDingo]

I have a few watches from Kenneth Cole, Georgio Armani and Skagen. But I don't collect them I just seem to have aquired them somehow.

I do have a few Swatches from the eighties that are different to say the least! :D

[poker]

Not a collector, but love em just the same.

[Sancho]

Maybe a rephrase, I certainly dont consider myself a collector but I certainly do enjoy them. I love the self winding automatics, such a cool sound when they are running

[ElkTwin]

Omega. Seamaster, De Ville, and Constellation.

[poker]

Im happy with my Breitling Crosswind.

[MTB996]

Breitling B2 here. Love the watch- wear it everyday.

[Footbag]

I've got a Breitling Navitimer and my grandfathers Patek Phillipe. The Patek is my best watch!

But for some reason I've been wearing a Frank Muller Conquistador Tourbillon Knock-off! Because I tend to bang them around at work.

[MikeyC]

I don't really collect watches, but I have more than one now and I would love to have a couple more. So, I guess I could qualify as a collector. My everyday watch is a Breitling B-1 and my "special occassion" watch is a Breitling Montebrilliant Legende.

Earlier this week I was at a Breitling client appreciation dinner and was able to try on a couple of limited/special edition Breitlings including a Breitling for Bentley Flying B which was all yellow gold and diamond encrusted. I believe the retail value on that one was almost $200K. :eek:

[TOB9595]

That dinner must have been quite some gala...
Glad that you could go..
200K on your wrist....
whew..
I love to play off watches now and again. I seem to lease them as I turn them over fairly frequently..
I just had this Glycine Combat relumed at IWW.
Wonderful watch.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/TOB9595/WATCHES/IMG_5693.jpg

Hacks, winds, is automatic, glows nicely now.
Tom

[AriesOpusX]

Anything by Armani will do you well for day/night wear.

https://www.blingyourself.com/images/m_s_arm_6.jpg

[gettysburgfreak]

Here's a picture I got online of the Seiko watch I have

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/364/sna414pjz3.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sna414pjz3.jpg)http://img220.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[White97Jimmy]

For dressier occassions, I have a Burberry Chrono. For daily use, I stick to my Timex!

[s15driftking]

I've got several lower end watches (michael Kors, Kenneth Cole, etc)

My goal is to buy a Breitling Super Avenger or Navitimer in the next year. Anyone get a slick deal on breitlings?

[floydpink]

I bought this Rolex Date on the old CS and haven't had it off my wrist since.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc266/rastapete69/Rolex1.jpg

[captain53]

No big collection but I do love and appreciate fine watches. I do have 3 Hoyers (Pre-Tag) that I cherish but one of them no longer works and can't get parts. BOOO TAG, would not invest a large sum in one if they are not going to provide long-term parts availability.

[awsmith4]

I love my Omega Seamaster and wear it most of the time, but I have a Luminox Navy Seals that I wear as well

[KidRock]

I love breitling and have two superoceans....

[WildBlueSooner]

I have a Lucien Piccard that I love...will have to figure out which model it is.

[dubnick]

I'm partial to the Movado passed down to me from my dad

[kaelaria]

I wear a Tag Heuer Carrera Chrono every day - perfect for me!

[larryinlc]

I'm a wristwatch junkie...pocketwatches too, but for collecting, this is my only wristwatch that I would consider collectable. An original Elgin BW Raymond from the 60's. It's new old stock with original box, papers and the signed leather band. The band now is stiff from age and will crack if it's bent. Original price was 79.95.

http://www.soochx.org/images/bwraymond.jpg

Larry

[cbsmokin]

Anyone? I've got into it some just looking for something to wear around work and for more formal occasions. Anyone got anything fun?

We need to know your budget.

My first (expensive) watch was a TAG, then Rolex, then Breitling. Considering the Anniversary moon watch from Omega right now.

[Patron]

Rolex Datejust, 2-tone
Rolex GMT Master II
Omega Speedmaster
Cartier Tank
Boliva Tank, 1943 14k rose gold
Tissot T-touch

Most purchased in the early 70's when wrist watches were much more affordable. Tissot is the newest but it's 5-6 years old and is my everyday watch.

[poker]

My next watch if still available when Im ready:

Zenith Chronomaster Open Grande

[Sancho]

We need to know your budget.

My first (expensive) watch was a TAG, then Rolex, then Breitling. Considering the Anniversary moon watch from Omega right now.

Thanks but Im not shopping, got a few that I like and wear pretty regularily :) Curious what other people like and had/have

Next watch will probably be a Ball Engineer

[aich75013]

My everyday watch is a Citizen Titanium Chronograph (Solar Powered)
Had it for over 10 years and no batteries.

I also have an older Pulsar Chronograph that I no longer wear. About 15 years old.

I wear this one when we go out.
http://cdn.overstock.com/images/products/P10674461.jpg

I couldn't find pics of my other 2 watches. And the pic I tried taking with my phone looked blurry.

Just realized all of my watches were gifts from my wife. 2 before we got married.

And I have one that I received for my 5 year anniversary at work. I wear it when I don't want to break or lose me other watches.
Not a bad looking watch, but it was free.

[s15driftking]

I've got several lower end watches (michael Kors, Kenneth Cole, etc)

My goal is to buy a Breitling Super Avenger or Navitimer in the next year. Anyone get a slick deal on breitlings?


mission accomplished! Breitling Super Avenger!

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs268.snc1/9517_702666813144_23307162_40780920_6540576_n.jpg

[gettysburgfreak]

The two watches I really want are a Rolex or something by the IWC.

[PeteSB75]

I have a Breitling Colt GMT that I bought about 2 1/2 years ago, just after my divorce. Think I might have to replace it soon - getting married next summer.

[rizzle]

Unfortunately I don't have the cash to be a collector of watches. Someday maybe because I love them. This one gets the most wrist time.

http://www.demesy.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/51560.jpg

I also get quite a bit of wear from this one.

http://www.mrwatch.com/thumbs/3105-160-260.jpg

[Mugen910]

Unfortunately I don't have the cash to be a collector of watches. Someday maybe because I love them. This one gets the most wrist time.

http://www.demesy.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/51560.jpg

I also get quite a bit of wear from this one.

http://www.mrwatch.com/thumbs/3105-160-260.jpg

I'd just wear one on each wrist :r

[larryinlc]

I bought this Oris a couple months back. With the rubber strap, it's very comfortable.

larry

http://www.soochx.org/images/oris1.jpg

[SmokeyNL]

Breitling Aerospace titanium, had it for 8 or 9 years now and love it, had several others but this one is my favorite.

[Django]

Not a collector but i do like the look of a nice watch.
I have a 'Maurice Lacroix Les Classiques'

[mmblz]

nope. but someday I'd love a Patek ;)

[s15driftking]

Well, like i said, i just acquired my first breitling (super avenger). the next watch I buy will be a breitling Navitimer World, then a Corum Classical or Corum Admirals Cup 48. I really like Corum as well.

[JJG]

I've been wearing the same watch for 10 years now but I still think it's pretty cool. Raymond Weil W1. I think for my next one though I want something a little less chunky and more comfortable.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/810/n3433e.jpg

edit: picture is from google, not mine

[Parshooter]

BE CAREFUL. You can slide down the slope just as fast as with cigars :D

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/marcw_2007/cases017.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/marcw_2007/cases011.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/marcw_2007/cases006.jpg

[Mugen910]

BE CAREFUL. You can slide down the slope just as fast as with cigars

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/marcw_2007/cases017.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/marcw_2007/cases011.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/marcw_2007/cases006.jpg
:O

I have that movado museum...Love it..

[HK3-]

I really like this watch and I do not own it. It's only a dream. :D

http://www.worldwatchreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/audemars-piguet-royal-oak-don-ramon-de-la-cruz-watch.jpg

[e-man67]

I currently own a Doxa Searambler.....I love dive watches and I have been through 30+ watches in the last 2 years (I flip). My favorites have been the Rolex Submariner, my 5 Doxas, Sinn U1, Ball Madcow, and the Longines Hydroconquest (great bang for the buck only about $900 new). Watches will drain your wallet quick!

[s15driftking]

^^^ I'm down with Doxa, very nice diver watches!

BTW, parshooter, where did you get that watch cabinet?

[tchariya]

I have a few watches from Kenneth Cole, Georgio Armani and Skagen. But I don't collect them I just seem to have aquired them somehow.

I do have a few Swatches from the eighties that are different to say the least! :D

Skagen definitely. If you cna find a Premium Outlet mall, you can find good deals.

Also go to Marshalls or TJ Max..they carry a lot of Kenneth Cole watches too.

[sikk50]

I'm in school, so not a collecter, but I do try to buy myself a new Citizen Eco Drive every other year or so. the current one has a pearl face with gold stripes on the bands and around the face

[ucubed]

Parshooter how much did that top case cost? I'm looking one for myself...as for a watch this one is my favorite that was my 21st birthday present http://blog.breitlingsource.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tag-heuer-aquaracer_h400.jpg

Unfortunately I don't have the cash to be a collector of watches. Someday maybe because I love them. This one gets the most wrist time.

http://www.demesy.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/51560.jpg


I have the same one gifted to me by my friend's father

[SmokinDuck]

Skagen definitely. If you cna find a Premium Outlet mall, you can find good deals.

Also go to Marshalls or TJ Max..they carry a lot of Kenneth Cole watches too.


Skagen definitely. I like how thin they are and really like the mesh bands.

I have five of them. Not all good deals unfortunately.

I've got a really nice CYMA that I received from the company I worked for at my 20 years of service party.

[longknocker]

We Do Collect Cigars, Right?:) Of Course we collect Watches!:tu I usually treat myself to a new watch every time we go on a cruise. I wear a TAG Tiger Woods Edition for dress and wear one of three for everyday, ( Casio G-Shock Solar Powered "My Most Reliable Watch!", Citizen Eco Drive, and my new fav., just purchased, Stainless "Guess WaterPro".:)

[Parshooter]

Bobby, I got the cabinet at Bombay Trading Co. They are in a mall near you.

Ucubed, the top case is a winder box. Not a good one, but it works most of the time. Got it at an on-line discount store. I ordered/paid for a smaller one, but they messed up so they sent me this one instead, I think it was about $130. A good winder is going to cost $$$. I would rather just shake my autos every morning and buy a couple nice boxes of cigars :tu

[s15driftking]

Bobby, I got the cabinet at Bombay Trading Co. They are in a mall near you.



explicate please, i googled it with little result.

[gettysburgfreak]

I need a watch winder but don't want to spend 200 bucks for one. Those of you that have one, where did you get yours?

[MrOneEyedBoh]

Does anyone know anything about wrist watches? I got an Omega from my grandfather and I heard if it has an airplane on the watch face its worth more than a normal one? Basically I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it.

[Wolfgang]

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/wolfgang8810/watch.jpg

Interesting watch. Dosent get much wear time. I love my Seiko Titanium band

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/wolfgang8810/598346_seiko-titanium-wm-1-1.jpg

[longknocker]

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/wolfgang8810/watch.jpg

Interesting watch. Dosent get much wear time. I love my Seiko Titanium band

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/wolfgang8810/598346_seiko-titanium-wm-1-1.jpg

Love That Seiko, Bro! Beautiful Watch!:tu

[Wolfgang]

Thank you. its currently in the shop. Needed a new battery and a good cleaning. :D

[s15driftking]

a nice informative video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiCPu0SjEW4

[Wolfgang]

a nice informative video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiCPu0SjEW4Aweosme video

[RGD.]

explicate please, i googled it with little result.


They may not be in business in your area (or any where for that matter) - the store close to me closed down last year - bankruptcy I believe.


Ron

[s15driftking]

website? link?

[ade06]

All of the Bombay Trading Company's in my area (D.C., MD, DE and PA) have gone out of business too.

[s15driftking]

I'd like to introduce two cool things to those who want to learn about them... the tourbillon and the minute repeater...


Tourbillon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj2Ia0KWxN0


WHAT IS A TOURBILLON
When it comes to time, accuracy is everything. Nobody’s going to take a watchmaker who can’t tick the talk. The gravity of the situation was not lost on the watchmakers of past who realised that the pull of Newton’s forces did have an effect on the performance of their timepieces. In the normal course of use, a watch goes through a variety of positions as your arm swings. This is great for the automatic movement. However, with the pocket watch, it tends to be kept in a vertical position, and we all know how gravity loves to play with that. The result is small changes to the accuracy of the timepiece.

In the beginning
Many may just brush it off as trivial, but others are bothered by it to the extent it’s more than dust in the eye. For instance, back in the 18th century, sailors’ lives depended on the accuracy of their ship’s deck watch or marine chronometer. Ingeniously, it was Abraham-Louis Breguet, ticked off enough about the fact that he was losing time this way, who decided to bridge the problem in 1795 by inventing the régulateur à tourbillon.

The tourbillon (whirlwind) device has the escapement parts in a mobile cage that rotates in one direction, driven by a fixed wheel. This eliminates the effects of gravity on the balance wheel movement, and restores accuracy to the timepiece.

Piece de resistence
The tourbillon, patented by Breguet in 1801, is one of those complications that many watch manufacturers strive to produce as a piece de resistance of their collection. Others wonder why they bother since it doesn’t seem to serve a practical purpose. The main reason for this dissenting perspective is the difficult nature of their creation and the resulting high cost. Extremely precise mechanical tolerances are called into play – not too much weight, nor friction, or the entire system could wind up just looking pretty on your wrist while you seek the time elsewhere.

Marrying art and craft was Constant Girard-Perregaux’s aim as he created the Tourbillon Sous Trois Points d’Or, in 1867. The three-bridge design he invented for his pocket chronometer has been copied since, eventually finding its way onto wrists in 1991.

Mechanical marvels
The difficulty of manufacturing chronometer tourbillons fostered more innovative thinking, and Bahne Bonniksen, a Danish immigrant to England, came up with the karrusel (derived from carrousel). Patented by him in 1892, the karrusel has a movement that rotates at a slower rate than the chronometer tourbillon, but is more robust.

In the 1920s, Alfred Helwig, the Glashutte master watchmaker, invented the flying tourbillon regulator, which is pivot mounted on one side with no supporting bridge.

The arrival of the wristwatch resulted in watchmakers trying to find ways of miniaturising this already complicated movement. In 1930, the tourbillon regulator made its appearance in a wristwatch. Not too many tourbillons are in existence, and the quartz oscillator put an end to these mechanical marvels in the late ’60s. But the rebirth of mechanical watches has seen several companies taking up the miniaturisation process all over again.

Creative Applications
F.P. Journe’s Souverain Tourbillon is one of the more creative applications, while Blancpain seems to focus intensively on using these technical marvels. Omega has a self-winding Central Tourbillon which is produced in limited quantities, and has the movement as the centrepiece, while Patek Philippe swings in the other direction with its Sky Moon Tourbillon which has 12 complications and uses both
sides of the watch.

Whether it’s just a case of one-upmanship or practicality, the tourbillon is still an integral part of watchmaking and still causing a whirlwind of activity.

and........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourbillon

[s15driftking]

and the minute repeater....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cB8ftBRJGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfhmaqnNlPI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9S89o1nkh4&feature=related


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repeater_(horology)

http://www.timezone.com/library/rdnotebook/200408292930

[ratpack]

Just buy one of those little babies they had recently in CA. $32,000 for a watch! That's an everyday wear.

[rizzle]

I have the same one gifted to me by my friend's father
I need to find some friends like that.;) I thought I noticed the green bezel on your wrist in a picture posted not too long ago.
:tu

[gettysburgfreak]

After I hopefully complete the academy, I am going to buy this as a present

http://www.jorggray.com/jg6500nc-rose.html

[longknocker]

After I hopefully complete the academy, I am going to buy this as a present

http://www.jorggray.com/jg6500nc-rose.html

Nice Looking Watch! You Deserve It!:tu

[s15driftking]

Breitling ****, just picked it up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture009-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture003-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture021-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture022-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture025-1.jpg

[s15driftking]

a couple more of my watches

Triumph 46mm, ETA movement

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture035.jpg


Michael Kors, MK8075

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture043.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture042.jpg

[Veritas]

I love watches, but my wallet won't support my habit. My current daily wear is a Tag Aquaracer. I get quite a bit of wear from my Luminox F-16 Series also. Others that spend more time in the box than on my wrist include a Movado Museum Series, a Tiffany, a titanium Seiko chronograph and several Tommy Bahama casuals. The only Rolex in the house is on the wife's wrist; they are too heavy for my taste.

I really like the looks of the Oris in Larry's post. (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=562262&postcount=34) Which collection is that from?

[larryinlc]

I really like the looks of the Oris in Larry's post. (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=562262&postcount=34) Which collection is that from?

it's an Oris BC3 Big Crown. I bought it new for 450.00 40mm diameter

Larry

[Veritas]

Thanks. I'm going to look for one of these when I get back to the States.

[gettysburgfreak]

I really like the look of this but I'm not so sure about the rubber band, I am a leather band kinda guy

http://www.amazon.com/Bulova-Marine-Calendar-Watch-98B104/dp/B0018AJN4U/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I192ZIRR01JGVR&colid=13GP37GAS9LPY

[Veritas]

I have three watches with rubber straps - a Tag, a Luminox, and a Lacoste GMT. I like them for different reasons than leather. I don't consider any of these to be dress watches. For that application, leather straps (or metal bracelets) are preferred. For day to day wear, I really like the rubber strap. In fact, I bought my Tag with a stainless bracelet and replaced that with the rubber strap.

I guess they aren't for everyone. I don't like the heavy weight of a Rolex while others do. That's why there are so many watches (like cigars) - so we can all have our favorites.
:ss

[BlackDog]

Not really a collector, but I do enjoy watches. I wear a Seiko "Pepsi Diver" and an Omega Constellation.

[s15driftking]

I don't like the heavy weight of a Rolex while others do.

I love heavy bulky watches. Although, there are some that are bulky withotu being heavy (titanium).

[gettysburgfreak]

I like heavy watches as well

[s15driftking]

for those who like clunky-but-not-heavy....

try one fo these:

http://www.bernardwatch.com/Corum/Admiral's-Cup-Competition-48mm/COR267

[TheRiddick]

Hate to say it, but this is a fake. Not a Brietling band, the main seconds hand has no Breitling B on the short end of it, bezel is defintely not a typical trademark Breitling style, the knobs are not trademark Breitling flairs, a number of other fake elements...




Breitling ****, just picked it up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture009-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture003-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture021-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture022-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture025-1.jpg

[s15driftking]

Hate to say it, but this is a fake. Not a Brietling band, the main seconds hand has no Breitling B on the short end of it, bezel is defintely not a typical trademark Breitling style, the knobs are not trademark Breitling flairs, a number of other fake elements...

1. The bracelet (or band as you call it) is a ProII
2. I've never seen the "B" on the main seconds hand of a Breitling super avenger, Only Breitling for Bentley motors watches
3. BEZEL is the correct bezel.... for a Super avenger, are you thinking of the Breitling for bentley 6.75
4. The "knobs" as you called them are technicallly called "pushers" and they are legit, as is the whole watch
5. Please tell me the "number of other fake elements" as you put it.

would you like to see the 4,000 dollar proof of sale from the legit local authorized dealer i bought it from? would that convince you? or do you want to bust my balls some more?

you should do some research and get your facts straight before you tell me that my watch is fake.

[TheRiddick]

I wear Breitlings daily for who knows how many years and know every model they sell pretty well. For the record, a while ago when Rolex hired a lawyer to go after fake market, the Rolex he was wearing in the meeting contained a fake band, bought from a reputable Rolex dealer (receipt and all).

Been wearing and buying the likes of Breitling, Chopard, Genta and Zenith way back when USA market didn't even know what they are (back then both Zenith and Genta were "grey" market only).

Not trying to establish my "watch red", if you're convinced the watch is not a fake, no issue on my side, it just looks strange to me.

[s15driftking]

I wear Breitlings daily for who knows how many years and know every model they sell pretty well..


Apparently not well enough....

[s15driftking]

Let's get this thread rocking again! I know there are more of you that like nice timepieces!!

[Thrak]

I have quite a few watches

A few of my favs are

1) Helix 'Wings' dive watch, black on black
2) Invicta 4847/2 Pro Diver automatic with 21-jewel miyota movement
3) Seiko pilots watch from early 90's (16th bday gift :) )
4) Movado two-tone museum
5) Citizen limited edition calibre 3100 (#986 of 999)
6) Tag Heuer 6000S/EL limited black face with black chrono dials, on e stainless band

Many more that I have in their boxes. ;) I like watches heh... considering picking up a bulova thats a GREAT deal http://www.pennywise.biz/ ... love the moveable interior dial.

[s15driftking]

Many more that I have in their boxes. ;) I like watches heh... considering picking up a bulova thats a GREAT deal http://www.pennywise.biz/ ... love the moveable interior dial.

where does it say that the interior dial is moveable?

[Thrak]

thats what the guarded crown on the left is for, you can turn the interior dial for calculations on the slide rule

the white ring turns as you turn the left crown

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018AJNI6

look at the zoomed in pics there

[s15driftking]

i see. thats cool as a "fun" point, but i'd probably never use it. Nice watch none-the-less although it is quartz.

[Thrak]

whats wrong with quartz?

[mosesbotbol]

whats wrong with quartz?

Nothing really. They are more acurate. There are a few quartz watches that are very sought after:

IWC Flieger Quartz
Rolex Oyster Quartz
any JLC Quartz
Omega X/33

We use many of workshops that create the fanciest watch brand parts out there. In Biel, everything and everyone is watch manufacturing business. Sounds fancy, but it is not, they are manufacturies and machine shops.

Part of a watch's allure is from their distribution and marketing which makes the same watch as someone else seem more esteemed or something. There's a lot of marketing BS when it comes to major brands of watches. They turn them out like nothing. Rolex, Omega, Breitling... they make 800K+ watches a year... How much hand finishing do you think really goes into them?

Here's a picture of Rolex leaving the driveway of one of the shops we use...

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh39/mosesbotbol/photo-53.jpg

[mosesbotbol]

One thing you might want to consider if you have a lot of watches is to PVD coat it. I think we can do most watches for around 500 CHF. It looks pretty cool and if you have a sporty Rolex will set it apart from the rest.

[Thrak]

Nothing really. They are more acurate.

Oh I agree totally, I have a Zodiac quartz that is the most accurate watch I've ever owned... it literally gains about 3 seconds over 9-10months lol. Incredible. My Invicta with the Miyota movement is still gaining 5-8 seconds a day, but its only a couple months old.

I was just asking because of the way driftking said "although it is quartz", as if there is something wrong with quartz.

I think most people would be really surprised to learn who actually makes the movements in certain brands, and what other brands share the EXACT same parts....

[Thrak]

mission accomplished! Breitling Super Avenger!

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs268.snc1/9517_702666813144_23307162_40780920_6540576_n.jpg

Just wondering, what year is this super avenger?

[s15driftking]

2009

[wayner123]

BE CAREFUL. You can slide down the slope just as fast as with cigars :D

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/marcw_2007/cases006.jpg

OH MY!! :dr:dr

TWO Daytona's!! That's nuts man.

Watches are my second hobby. I even make straps for various ones. My favorite (right now) everyday wearer is the Omega Planet Ocean.

[eber]

I really love watches but just can't afford much right now, the only watch I have of note is a ESQ Swiss Chronograph. I will post a picture later tonight or tomorow

[Darrell]

1. The bracelet (or band as you call it) is a ProII
2. I've never seen the "B" on the main seconds hand of a Breitling super avenger, Only Breitling for Bentley motors watches
3. BEZEL is the correct bezel.... for a Super avenger, are you thinking of the Breitling for bentley 6.75
4. The "knobs" as you called them are technicallly called "pushers" and they are legit, as is the whole watch
5. Please tell me the "number of other fake elements" as you put it.

would you like to see the 4,000 dollar proof of sale from the legit local authorized dealer i bought it from? would that convince you? or do you want to bust my balls some more?

you should do some research and get your facts straight before you tell me that my watch is fake.

Wow. Way to show your ass, Bobby.

Greg is not going to blow smoke up your ass. It may do you some good to listen to him rather than getting your panties in a bunch and throwing a tantrum. Greg has been in this game probably longer than we have been alive.

:2

[Thrak]

2009

The face and chrono locations dont match the pics on Breitlings site. :confused:

I'm not saying its a fake, cuz I'm not versed enough to know, but its pretty obvious that its different than whats on the site.

It does however, look exactly like this one

http://watchwoot.com/magento/index.php/breitling/breitling-super-avenger-white-dial.html

[bobarian]

The face and chrono locations dont match the pics on Breitlings site. :confused:

I'm not saying its a fake, cuz I'm not versed enough to know, but its pretty obvious that its different than whats on the site.

It does however, look exactly like this one

http://watchwoot.com/magento/index.php/breitling/breitling-super-avenger-white-dial.html

:tpd: Its not even close. http://www.breitling.com/en/#/models/new09/super-avenger-faces/

But I'm not a watch guy so what do I know. :2

[stevieray]

The face and chrono locations dont match the pics on Breitlings site. :confused:

I'm not saying its a fake, cuz I'm not versed enough to know, but its pretty obvious that its different than whats on the site.

It does however, look exactly like this one

http://watchwoot.com/magento/index.php/breitling/breitling-super-avenger-white-dial.html

What jumps out at me is the placement of the "8" and "10" on the dial, i.e. not enough cut away from the numbers. By no means am I a Breitling expert...but the dial doesn't look right to me.

[MikeyC]

:tpd: Its not even close. http://www.breitling.com/en/#/models/new09/super-avenger-faces/

But I'm not a watch guy so what do I know. :2

It's clearly not the same face as pictured on the Breitling website, but if you look at the website the Super Avenger is listed as having a new face for 2009. Maybe the watch pictured is an '08?

[s15driftking]

Wow. Way to show your ass, Bobby.

Greg is not going to blow smoke up your ass. It may do you some good to listen to him rather than getting your panties in a bunch and throwing a tantrum. Greg has been in this game probably longer than we have been alive.

:2

Tantrum??? Merely proving a point.

What happened? I blacked out.


And Thrak, the Arabic dials were the original release, then came the batons and the split arabic. All style are available at any vendor for BNIB purchase in 2009 as long as thats the one they got in... and the one you want.

As my local Breitling authorized dealers stated.... They don't often know what they are gettign in new orders. apparently they just spend their designated purchase per month and stuff comes in. Do i neccesarrily believe that... No... Hence why they always try and sell you whats there at that point in time.... so they wont have to special order it in.

It is possible that vendors sell NOS if it didn't sell well initially and space-in-the-case is limited... But that isnt the case because the Super Avengers "fly off the shelves" and the case that they are in is HUGE. I will check my COSC when i get home though just to make sure.

[s15driftking]

:tpd: Its not even close. http://www.breitling.com/en/#/models/new09/super-avenger-faces/

But I'm not a watch guy so what do I know. :2

They are referring to the black face with black subdials, that was new for 2009.

The hour markings are known as "batons" and those were intro'd in 2006 IIRC. the arabics were intro'd on the original release of 2004, and the split arabic was late 2008 intro.

[Darrell]

Tantrum??? Merely proving a point.


You proved something alright, but it was not your point.

:td

[s15driftking]

You proved something alright, but it was not your point.

:td

come on now dude.

[bobarian]

Sure seems strange that the fakes on watchwoot look more like the one you showed than the ones on the actual Breitling site. :2

[newcigarz]

Current two :

Breitling SuperOcean

http://www.fototime.com/9E78E79EE60AD1E/standard.jpg

and Panerai 112

http://www.fototime.com/12B5C6337472345/standard.jpg




Gone but not forgotten. Ulysse Nardin Marine Diver and IWC Aquatimer Chrono.

http://www.fototime.com/D4EB4FDB4260DAF/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/FDBD74051A235AC/standard.jpg

[s15driftking]

diggin the IWC man!

[gettysburgfreak]

I have always wanted a watch by IWC. They make some really sharp dress watches

[Eleven]

I dig watches but most of mine are old and don't work :)

Only rolex I ever owned was an Air King, and I sold it for 300 bucks in the 80's cause I was a dumb kid.

I will get some pictures of mine and post em though...a couple of real cool oldies.

[Parshooter]

OH MY!! :dr:dr

TWO Daytona's!! That's nuts man.


Those are Folex's. My wife bought them for me, as a joke, on the mean streets of NYC. The silver one died and I keep the gold one incase I need some bling for a costume.

[wayner123]

Those are Folex's. My wife bought them for me, as a joke, on the mean streets of NYC. The silver one died and I keep the gold one incase I need some bling for a costume.

Oh... I kind of thought that, but wanted to give the benefit of the doubt. That blue subdial Daytona would easily be 30k if it was real.

Is the Omega Seamaster also a replica? That watch is a very nice. I had one at one time, but then went with the larger Planet Ocean.

[stevieray]

Not a big collector but this is my daily watch.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u20/stevieray_2007/omega.jpg

Omega Seamaster Automatic bought new in 2001. Only loses about 30 seconds a month and has yet to be opened up or serviced.

[boom]

Just got this for reaching 5yrs with my current employer, not to bad, and it fits...I usually have to get extra links....

http://www.luxurywatchstore.com/watches-i/Bulova/98H35.jpg

[str8edg]

Just got this for reaching 5yrs with my current employer, not to bad, and it fits...I usually have to get extra links....

http://www.luxurywatchstore.com/watches-i/Bulova/98H35.jpg

I always have to get them removed... maybe we could work together!!

I love watches I have a few but nothing post worthy... give me some time!

[streetglide]

I've been wearing this watch for 4 years. Keeps good time. loses 2-3 seconds a day. The strap is just starting to tear at the clasp.
I have a few old pocket watches too. I'll try to put up pic's.

http://www.soochx.org/images/oris1.jpg[/QUOTE]

[Wolfgang]

Tantrum??? Merely proving a point.


What it comes down to just like ISOMs is Trust your source.

thread jack - off :tf

[s15driftking]

Just fell in love....

http://anonimo.com/models_gallery/pict/tp_10anni2.jpg

must resist!!

[MikeyC]

This is my everyday watch which I've been wearing for about 8 years now.

Breitling B1

http://www.your-guide-to-watches.com/image-files/breitling-b-1-watch-a78362.jpg

Just got one of these last year as a wedding gift from my wife:

Breitling Montbrillant Legende

http://www.watchesonnet.com/images/product/large/1810_1.jpg

My grandfather always wore a Breitling and he was someone I had a lot of love for. Sadly he passed away many years ago and my older brother now wears his watch. To honor this wonderful man's memory in a small way I wear a Breitling everyday.

[eber]

heres mine:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/emulberry/DSCN0468.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/emulberry/DSCN0470.jpg

[mosesbotbol]

I have always wanted a watch by IWC.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh39/mosesbotbol/photo-54.jpg

IWC's are good watches. Ususally understated and no one is going to cut your hand off for one or ask if it's real. A watch for when someone wants a time piece, not a status symbol as no one outside of watch people would ever look twice at them.

I've had this watch since '98. Been serviced twice. The most recent service last year, I replaced the bearing on the swing mass. It some play want wasn't winding the watch correct. I also had the 15 minute indiactors, and hands done again with luminova. When the service was done, my watch was within a few seconds a day acurate in 5 positions. I have the ticker tape somewhere. Very impressive job my friend did on the service.

[mosesbotbol]

Omega Seamaster Automatic bought new in 2001. Only loses about 30 seconds a month and has yet to be opened up or serviced.

Time to get it serviced! The bill can rise if you let it go too long. Omega makes a nice watch.

[s15driftking]

thats what the guarded crown on the left is for, you can turn the interior dial for calculations on the slide rule

the white ring turns as you turn the left crown

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018AJNI6

look at the zoomed in pics there

i bet this is the cheapest you will find it

http://www.blingdaily.com/

[Thrak]

yup, I ordered it about 6:30a this morning. :D

Thanks!

[stevieray]

Time to get it serviced! The bill can rise if you let it go too long. Omega makes a nice watch.

Yeah, I'm looking for a place to service it now. I'll probably send it to the Omega service center in NYC.

[mosesbotbol]

Yeah, I'm looking for a place to service it now. I'll probably send it to the Omega service center in NYC.

Could send it Omega in Switzerland too. I think the US service centers have a much longer queue.

[K Baz]

Whomever wrote that watches are a slope same as cigar was to right

In the last month I have bought 2 tags, a tissot, and a rolex.

Now the problem is some are automatics...

Can anyone suggest a watch rotator brand - seems I am in the market now

[K Baz]

Sorry to double post by I missed the edit time.

Anyone have any thoughts about smoking while wearing a leather band? My Tag Monaco has one and I would prefer if it didn't take on an odor.

[s15driftking]

Can anyone suggest a watch rotator brand - seems I am in the market now

www.watchuseek.com should yield decent threads about watch winders. they are not all equal... yet all do the same job

as far as smoke on leather bands.. i wouldn't worry too much, your wrist sweat and other stuff (hot sauce, soda, coffee, other things you spill on it) will make it smell regardless!

[wayner123]

Sorry to double post by I missed the edit time.

Anyone have any thoughts about smoking while wearing a leather band? My Tag Monaco has one and I would prefer if it didn't take on an odor.


This is a question right up my alley. I am not familiar with Tag Bands. However, most OEM bands are usually made to withstand a little more mistreatment than an aftermarket one. That's because they are usually not 100% leather.

If you smoke with it on it will take on an odor. And no amount of conditioning or treating will get it out. Sorry to say, but that's the truth of it.

[Parshooter]

Sorry to double post by I missed the edit time.

Anyone have any thoughts about smoking while wearing a leather band? My Tag Monaco has one and I would prefer if it didn't take on an odor.

I would think that a leather watch strap would be like leather funiture: won't hold smoke odor. Plus, unless you are blowing smoke directly on your strap or are smoking in a very poorly vented room, how much smoke is actually going to get to it ?

[Parshooter]

as far as smoke on leather bands.. i wouldn't worry too much, your wrist sweat and other stuff (hot sauce, soda, coffee, other things you spill on it) will make it smell regardless!

Are you that sloppy Bobby ? :r

[s15driftking]

Are you that sloppy Bobby ? :r

hence why i onyl wear stainless steel banded watches!!!

though that may change soon!

[smitdavi]

Should be ordering this in the next few days:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c156/the_studd/Citizen-Watch-Promaster-Atomic-Eco-.jpg

[Thrak]

LOVE Citizens... I think they're the best bang for your buck in the watch world right now.

I love my 2, and my wife loves hers also.

[smitdavi]

LOVE Citizens... I think they're the best bang for your buck in the watch world right now.

I love my 2, and my wife loves hers also.

They def have some nice pieces. It's hard to beat the 5 year warranty on them. Unfortunately this is my Christmas present this year so I will have to wait 2 months to wear it lol

[Thrak]

talk about an agonizing wait lol

I got my bro a nice automatic for xmas, and he has to wait too... he'll ask me a question about it and I just say "I'm not sure what you're referring to???" lolol!

[smitdavi]

talk about an agonizing wait lol

I got my bro a nice automatic for xmas, and he has to wait too... he'll ask me a question about it and I just say "I'm not sure what you're referring to???" lolol!

Yeah, I may ask if I can just look at it and hold it for a while when it comes in lol

[mosesbotbol]

Best to buy a watch with a bracelet and get the leather strap after. Deployment clasps are pretty cheap too.

Orbita (sp) is a famous brand of watch winder.

[smitdavi]

Best to buy a watch with a bracelet and get the leather strap after. Deployment clasps are pretty cheap too.

Orbita (sp) is a famous brand of watch winder.

The Citizen that I posted has an integrated bracelet. I would like to get a leather strap watch though. A little dressier than ss

[Thrak]

If you like the militare look check out Getat ... build it how you like for little $

http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do

[gettysburgfreak]

Went to Alberquerque this weekend with some of the guys to hit up some of the hot spots and get away from the base and bought this. I had it on my wishlist on Amazon, saw it in the mall and had to have it.


http://www.amazon.com/Bulova-Marine-Calendar-Watch-98B104/dp/B0018AJN4U/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I192ZIRR01JGVR&colid=13GP37GAS9LPY

[s15driftking]

More Shots of the Breitling

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture099.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture093.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture082.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture066.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture068.jpg

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Went to Alberquerque this weekend with some of the guys to hit up some of the hot spots and get away from the base and bought this. I had it on my wishlist on Amazon, saw it in the mall and had to have it.


http://www.amazon.com/Bulova-Marine-Calendar-Watch-98B104/dp/B0018AJN4U/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I192ZIRR01JGVR&colid=13GP37GAS9LPY

Thats a nice watch:tu

[smitdavi]

More Shots of the Breitling

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture099.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture093.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture082.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture066.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture068.jpg

lol, why did you ruin it with the Gurkha

[smitdavi]

Been looking at some Hamilton watches lately. Some great pieces. My next watch will def be a Hamilton for sure

[s15driftking]

the "my next watch" statement from me changes daily, lol...

[Sauer Grapes]

Been looking at some Hamilton watches lately. Some great pieces. My next watch will def be a Hamilton for sure

OMG... I am in love with the Hamilton Skeleton. Too bad I cannot afford $3K+ for a watch.

[smitdavi]

If you like the militare look check out Getat ... build it how you like for little $

http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do

Have you ordered from here before? These watches seem to be pretty popular amongst watch forums

[e-man67]

Have you ordered from here before? These watches seem to be pretty popular amongst watch forums


They are Homage watches...basically a copy of the original...many manufactures do it...some people call them expensive knock-offs. Looks like a nice Panerai Homage.

[e-man67]

OMG... I am in love with the Hamilton Skeleton. Too bad I cannot afford $3K+ for a watch.

Hamilton makes some very nice and very affordable watches that use the same movements as many high dollar brands.

[smitdavi]

They are Homage watches...basically a copy of the original...many manufactures do it...some people call them expensive knock-offs. Looks like a nice Panerai Homage.

True but I don't have 4 grand for a Panerai. Plus you get to pick all of your components and can make it look however you want. From what I've read they are pretty nice pieces.

[mosesbotbol]

OMG... I am in love with the Hamilton Skeleton. Too bad I cannot afford $3K+ for a watch.

Speaking of skeleton watches, this is hot on my wish list. For me, this is one of the hottest watches to come around in a long time.

Chronoswiss Opus

http://bp2.blogger.com/_HZxjZs9ytRU/Rft7Rwfa8oI/AAAAAAAABTA/Hn3jiJsQIuc/s320/ChronoswissOpus.jpg

http://www.newluxuryitems.com/uploads/Image/ANEEL/ChronoSwiss_Skeleton.jpg

[smitdavi]

Speaking of skeleton watches, this is hot on my wish list. For me, this is one of the hottest watches to come around in a long time.

Chronoswiss Opus

http://bp2.blogger.com/_HZxjZs9ytRU/Rft7Rwfa8oI/AAAAAAAABTA/Hn3jiJsQIuc/s320/ChronoswissOpus.jpg

http://www.newluxuryitems.com/uploads/Image/ANEEL/ChronoSwiss_Skeleton.jpg

Not really my cup o' tea but I can def appreciate the craftsmanship :tu

[s15driftking]

Not really my cup o' tea but I can def appreciate the craftsmanship :tu

ditto

[Thrak]

Have you ordered from here before? These watches seem to be pretty popular amongst watch forums

I plan to after Xmas...

I know people that have and all have been EXTREMELY satisfied...

THe best part is customizing it, he has alot more options that arent on the site. I saw a sweeet one with a black skeltonized dial on a seagull movement. It was awesome. :banger

I also like that you can order 2 bands with it and just swap em out to match...

[Sauer Grapes]

I plan to after Xmas...

I know people that have and all have been EXTREMELY satisfied...

THe best part is customizing it, he has alot more options that arent on the site. I saw a sweeet one with a black skeltonized dial on a seagull movement. It was awesome. :banger

I also like that you can order 2 bands with it and just swap em out to match...

:tpd:

I'm digging some of those on the site. I think I know what I'm going to ask for from the wife for Christmas. I can afford those bad boys!

[smitdavi]

:tpd:

I'm digging some of those on the site. I think I know what I'm going to ask for from the wife for Christmas. I can afford those bad boys!

They are very cool, and it's even better that you can make it to your liking :banger

[Thrak]

be sure to post up what you get!!

I'm partial to the Militare style, but the Radiomir is appealing too... :)

[eber]

just got my new watch, nothing amazing but I think it looks really nice for the price and it has a really nice feel on the wrist. Oh and Bobby that Breitling is beautiful

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/emulberry/DSCN0492.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/emulberry/DSCN0494.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj43/emulberry/DSCN0508.jpg

[s15driftking]

^^^ I looked at that watch this weekend when i was in Chicago, very nice!!

I also looked at a PVD Hamilton Khaki Subzero, it was amazing. REALLY AMAZING.


http://imworld.aufeminin.com/dossiers/D20080916/hamilton-Medium-153652_XL.jpg

[eber]

^^:dr:dr^^

[Wolfgang]

I will be ordering this one shortly with a Titanium case. I love the lightness of the material. Amazing.

http://www.siswatch727.com/showroom/user/1239717806671017346/gallery/b_1240638671625024669.jpg

[s15driftking]

I will be ordering this one shortly with a Titanium case. I love the lightness of the material. Amazing.

http://www.siswatch727.com/showroom/user/1239717806671017346/gallery/b_1240638671625024669.jpg


is that rom the brand Homage?

[Wolfgang]

I believe so. Its something like 98 bucks. Im a college student and i like the style no 5k+ watches for me.

[s15driftking]

I believe so. Its something like 98 bucks. Im a college student and i like the style no 5k+ watches for me.


are they really that inexpensive????

[newcigarz]

This would be my next watch if I had the coin.

http://girard.horomundi.com/BnR/BnR_2008_BR02_Orange1000.jpg

[smitdavi]

are they really that inexpensive????

Yes depending on the different options you choose. Could be a little more though if you want something more specific.

[Thrak]

Woah woah guys...

Homage = in this case is just a copy of an original in honor or appreciation of

An actual Luminor Marina or Radiomir from Panerai is very expensive.
http://www.panerai.com/s_page.xpd?id_lingua=2&id_sezione=3

SisWatch727 is a brand called Getat. They make watches that look like Panerai (among others) but are significantly less expensive. Its not a bootleg because they dont claim to be a Panerai. There's no way a getat will every reach the $5k+ mark.

I will be ordering one (probably a power reserve in a brushed case), but dont expect it to be NEARLY as high quality as an actual Panerai. Its 1/50th (?) the price. But they are a great value for an excellent looking watch that you get to customize. :D

[eber]

I think I found my next watch

http://www.siswatch727.com/showroom/model/largepic.jsp?p=../user/1239717806671017346/gallery/b_1240688296937035736.jpg

[Thrak]

Thats sweet.. I love GMTs...

I sent an email and asked but he doesnt have a GMT with power reserve and date. :(

[mosesbotbol]

Thats sweet.. I love GMTs...

I sent an email and asked but he doesnt have a GMT with power reserve and date. :(


Would be nice if the watch had seconds hand.

[wayner123]

Would be nice if the watch had seconds hand.

It does, look below the 9.

[e-man67]

I saw the Hamilton at the local mall last weekend...damn cool. Hamilton's are great quality budget pieces for sure!

[e-man67]

Here are a few of my past watches:

[e-man67]

My Doxas:

[mosesbotbol]

It does, look below the 9.

:tu ;s eyes failing me in that picture.

[mosesbotbol]

For all of you looking for deals. Check out some of the Russian made watches. Many of the now have ETA movements and are priced really well. Actually, I think ETA owns several of Russians brands (since the last few years).

Daniel Jean Richard is a great value brand. It's Gerrard Peregaux's second watch line.

Mido & Certina are great watch lines that are barely sold in USA, but certainly available. Quite popular in Switzerland and offer excellent value.

[s15driftking]

Woah woah guys...

Homage = in this case is just a copy of an original in honor or appreciation of

I know, settle down sparky!!!

[s15driftking]

For all of you looking for deals. Check out some of the Russian made watches. Many of the now have ETA movements and are priced really well. Actually, I think ETA owns several of Russians brands (since the last few years).

looks like soemone read this latest issue of CA!!!

Jsut messing, they did have a great article on entry level complicated watches though, seems like russian is the way to go for peopel who want an inexpensive automatic.

[wayner123]

looks like soemone read this latest issue of CA!!!

Jsut messing, they did have a great article on entry level complicated watches though, seems like russian is the way to go for peopel who want an inexpensive automatic.

Some with the exact same movements as the more expensive makers:

cough... *breitling* ...cough

:r

[RIsmoker]

I have quite a bit of watches, some relatively cheap Fossils, but I also have a few Armani's and Longness's.

[mosesbotbol]

looks like soemone read this latest issue of CA!!!

Jsut messing, they did have a great article on entry level complicated watches though, seems like russian is the way to go for peopel who want an inexpensive automatic.

No kidding! Haven't read an issue of CA in years! The best Russian watches to get are the fairly simple aviator ones. There is a big titanium industry in Russia, so a titanium case could be nice too.

We just got a wicked cool Zenith Power Reserve Calendar watch in Gold. I think it has moon phase too. We are having it fixed by our watchsmith. Very thin gold case. Not kind of watch I would buy, but would like to be in the position to afford one... It's not winding, probably a bearing issue on swing mass or spring issue.

[mosesbotbol]

Some with the exact same movements as the more expensive makers:

cough... *breitling* ...cough

:r

That does not mean much. You can buy a basic ETA movement for like $40. It's the polishing and finish work on the movement that drives the price up. All the blue screws and hand work can add up. The 8 day power reserve costs like $70 alone and needs a lot of finishing to be in a high end watch. Not to say that the profit margin on Breitlings and Rolex would leave a sour taste in anyone that owns one. Watches are one of the most profitable items in sense. World wide shipping and distribution costs nothing. It's all about the sales network and not discounting too much.

I was told that on a stainless watch, that the case, dial, bracelet/strap only account for 10% the watch's cost. Don't take this to the grave, just something I was told a while back.

[wayner123]

That does not mean much. You can buy a basic ETA movement for like $40. It's the polishing and finish work on the movement that drives the price up. All the blue screws and hand work can add up. The 8 day power reserve costs like $70 alone and needs a lot of finishing to be in a high end watch. Not to say that the profit margin on Breitlings and Rolex would leave a sour taste in anyone that owns one. Watches are one of the most profitable items in sense. World wide shipping and distribution costs nothing. It's all about the sales network and not discounting too much.

I was told that on a stainless watch, that the case, dial, bracelet/strap only account for 10% the watch's cost. Don't take this to the grave, just something I was told a while back.


That percentage sounds about right. Take into account the amount of money spent on promotion alone, it will drive the cost up. I was merely pointing out that even in some of the "high end" watches ,the guts underneath are all the same. Finishing is one thing, but building is another. I mean heck Seiko and Omega even have in-house movements (Seiko's spring drive is just amazing). To me the higher end watch makers need to at least make their own movements. I used to think AP's were grossly overpriced. But after watching their vids that they put out on making of a watch, you come to a new appreciation of the work involved. Where as some of the other makers are just putting a nice face on a $40 movement.

However, a lot of that will change in the future with the news of ETA not making movements available as they once did. A lot of maker's will be forced into in-house movements.

[mosesbotbol]

That percentage sounds about right. Take into account the amount of money spent on promotion alone, it will drive the cost up. I was merely pointing out that even in some of the "high end" watches ,the guts underneath are all the same. Finishing is one thing, but building is another. I mean heck Seiko and Omega even have in-house movements (Seiko's spring drive is just amazing). To me the higher end watch makers need to at least make their own movements. I used to think AP's were grossly overpriced. But after watching their vids that they put out on making of a watch, you come to a new appreciation of the work involved. Where as some of the other makers are just putting a nice face on a $40 movement.

However, a lot of that will change in the future with the news of ETA not making movements available as they once did. A lot of maker's will be forced into in-house movements.

I heard a little about ETA scalling back how much and who they well movements to. I thought they wanted to sell their own completed watches?

I have seen our watchsmith take over 8 hours to make one sprocket that was a stock sprocket to start off with! I love the micro engraving by hand.

[TheRiddick]

Moses, ETA has been part of Swatch group for some years now and as such, per Swatch plan actually, decided not to sell movements to outsiders. Even prior to the decision, they only sold ETA movements as "finished" for a few years, as you can imagine the price went up accordingly. As is, these days of you want an ETA movement watch you will need to buy a Swatch product (a good number of brands under that umbrella).

Swatch's decision "forced" a number of houses to design and make their own movements, a good thing in my book.

Watch industry just went through a round of consolidation and there are just a few independent companies left at this point.

[mosesbotbol]

Seems like every company in Europe is under some kind of corporate umbrella.

[s15driftking]

Some with the exact same movements as the more expensive makers:

cough... *breitling* ...cough

:r


touche!!! but it is more involved than that.

[Thrak]

Seems like every company in Europe is under some kind of corporate umbrella.

best way to deal with vat taxes

[s15driftking]

I was told that on a stainless watch, that the case, dial, bracelet/strap only account for 10% the watch's cost. Don't take this to the grave, just something I was told a while back.

not to my knowledge, a breitling (let's use my watch as an example, so a super avenger) dial is about 400.00 and i know the case is 1100.00, the breacelet is also 550.00....

Now in terms of MFG cost i'm sure its MUCH lower.... and probably about 10%... but as far as the R&D that it cost to get them made... well, that goes down with every watch they make ... right???

[TheRiddick]

not to my knowledge, a breitling (let's use my watch as an example, so a super avenger) dial is about 400.00 and i know the case is 1100.00, the breacelet is also 550.00....

Only if you buy them as separate parts similar to any other product such as a car. New car price, $15K, buying each part separately makes it a $50K product, just ask any body shop or insurance claim adjuster.

Breitlings, in particular, can be had at 30-40% discount, I've seen Avengers sell in the $2200-2400 range, but I do have connections in NY. Come to think of it, if you know where to buy, pretty much any watch can be had at a good discount. The only models that sell at or more than MSRP are those that are artificially controlled by manufacturers, some Pateks, one or two Rolexes, and a few more here and there. As an example, I could have had a (Zenith Primero) Rolex Daytona in either gold or gold/SS combo at a steep discount while that same model in all SS sold for 10-20% markup over MSRP.

I was stupid enough not to buy a brand new Zenith Chrono for $1400 when they were still a grey market item, these days they are much more. Instead, I did pull a trigger on a Genta Gefica (Chrono) for that same price, so you win some, you lose some...

[s15driftking]

Only if you buy them as separate parts similar to any other product such as a car. New car price, $15K, buying each part separately makes it a $50K product,

i understand the theory behind that, i wonder if you buy a case, bezel, dial, and strap in a package how much that might cost. that would be the best way to test the idea that those components make up 10% of the actual cost


Breitlings, in particular, can be had at 30-40% discount,

From a B&M i have seen as much as a 30% discount, never 40%... maybe i'm just not that "connected". Though most E-prices are abotu a 30% discount... then again, that is considered Grey market for breitling.


I've seen Avengers sell in the $2200-2400 range

That's a pretty broad statement isnt it?

Is that for a seawolf? super avenger? chrono avenger? steelfish?

Does that mean it has a leather? rubber? or stainless bracelet?

they can be had for 2200-2400 all day logn online for that price. then again that is grey market.

Show me a Super Avenger at that price and I'll buy another today.

[mosesbotbol]

not to my knowledge, a breitling (let's use my watch as an example, so a super avenger) dial is about 400.00 and i know the case is 1100.00, the breacelet is also 550.00....

Now in terms of MFG cost i'm sure its MUCH lower.... and probably about 10%... but as far as the R&D that it cost to get them made... well, that goes down with every watch they make ... right???

I can tell you they are getting dials for a couple of dollars and cases are $25 probably even less. You are looking it at as a consumer, not a maufacturer that is making 800K+ watches a year. They can stamp out cases and mill them like no tomorrow. Tooling for one watch model is probably like 50K and from there they can crank out thousands year. Bracelets are usually done at a bracelet factory and different end links and clasps are designed. It may well be polished somewhere else, but maybe not.

[mosesbotbol]

If you want big discounts on high end watches, there's only one place to buy - Singapore. Singapore is the world epicenter for watches and you will be hard pressed to find a better deal unless you go through a private party.

There are many web based vendors there that can source whatever watch you are looking for as cheap as it is going to get. There's a great Signapore based watch forum, but I forget the name.

[s15driftking]

at Tourneau in Chicago

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture231-1.jpg

[smitdavi]

i understand the theory behind that, i wonder if you buy a case, bezel, dial, and strap in a package how much that might cost. that would be the best way to test the idea that those components make up 10% of the actual cost




From a B&M i have seen as much as a 30% discount, never 40%... maybe i'm just not that "connected". Though most E-prices are abotu a 30% discount... then again, that is considered Grey market for breitling.




That's a pretty broad statement isnt it?

Is that for a seawolf? super avenger? chrono avenger? steelfish?

Does that mean it has a leather? rubber? or stainless bracelet?

they can be had for 2200-2400 all day logn online for that price. then again that is grey market.

Show me a Super Avenger at that price and I'll buy another today.

damn man, you are really protective/anal that damn Breitling aren't you.

[daboose]

I’ve really enjoyed some of the watches by Dakota:

http://www.buydakotawatches.com/

This is my everyday watch from their Angler series. Now if they only could add a torch or soft flame. :tu

[Parshooter]

at Tourneau in Chicago

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture231-1.jpg

Shouldn't you be standing in front of the Brietling window?

[s15driftking]

i liked the big sign out front.

[mosesbotbol]

Did you buy your watch at Tourneau?

The CEO or near that of Breitling recently bought my cousin's '64 Mustang Convertible. Cash!

[s15driftking]

did not buy from Tourneau. Bought from Diamond Cellar.

[TheRiddick]

If you want big discounts on high end watches, there's only one place to buy - Singapore. Singapore is the world epicenter for watches and you will be hard pressed to find a better deal unless you go through a private party.

There are many web based vendors there that can source whatever watch you are looking for as cheap as it is going to get. There's a great Signapore based watch forum, but I forget the name.

Moses, I shop on 47th in NYC :-) Pretty much any watch you want even including extremely allocated Patek/Rolex pieces with waiting lists of 2+ years. The only time I could not get a good discount was when I was looking for a SS Daytona and had to pay 10% over MSRP, the gold one was offered at $12K (at the time a $21K watch) and I passed on principle.

[mosesbotbol]

Moses, I shop on 47th in NYC :-) Pretty much any watch you want even including extremely allocated Patek/Rolex pieces with waiting lists of 2+ years. The only time I could not get a good discount was when I was looking for a SS Daytona and had to pay 10% over MSRP, the gold one was offered at $12K (at the time a $21K watch) and I passed on principle.

We can get any Rolex at MSRP pretty easily around Biel. Sometimes we can get Rolex prototypes, but they go quick. It's a yes or no answer and pay right there kind of thing.

[e-man67]

We can get any Rolex at MSRP pretty easily around Biel. Sometimes we can get Rolex prototypes, but they go quick. It's a yes or no answer and pay right there kind of thing.

They actually release Rolex Prototypes?

[mosesbotbol]

They actually release Rolex Prototypes?

No, they are not "released", but sold. The factory is down the street.

[e-man67]

No, they are not "released", but sold. The factory is down the street.


Damn! I am surprised they can get them out of the factory! DeepSea Prototype please!

[mosesbotbol]

Damn! I am surprised they can get them out of the factory! DeepSea Prototype please!

If you can get the money to Switzerland in an hour, perhaps a prototype Rolex could be a possibility! It's not that often they come around. I haven't checked into them in over a year.

I could get you a Deep Sea no problem at MSRP if they are hard to get. The domestic watch market in Switzerland is no deal, you'd think it would be.

The hottest thing is PVD coating your Rolex Dive watch. I looks super sharp and not that expensive. I want to say like $500-600 to do. Watch has to be totally disassembled. The bezel, crown, and case back would be natural, alon with the springs and screws for the bracelet.

[Sauer Grapes]

Is there a site that explains the differences in the movements that Getat offers? By differences, are there any advantages or disadvantages to any of the movements? I'm completely clueless as to why I'd get one over another.

[Thrak]

Email him and he's quick to respond...

the seagull movements are pretty good, hand winds are pretty darn accurate.

[mosesbotbol]

They actually release Rolex Prototypes?

I now I see I probably answered your question incorrect. I am not sure if they are prototypes of current or upcoming watches, or watches they are considering producing. I have not seen one in person.

One kind of Rolex that is alittle more dubious are the ones that employees "build" out "borrowed" parts and built over months. In the end, they have a "Rolex", but not one I would bring a dealer to get fixed- if that makes sense. Employees at Omega have done a similar things. I suppose it happens everywhere.

Rolex has very tight and specific employee purchase program. It's like one watch a year to the employee only that can't be sold but a relative can have I think.

[s15driftking]

found a new love today, quite affordable as well, should be here in a week or two. 50mm's of pure PVD stealthyness!

[Sauer Grapes]

found a new love today, quite affordable as well, should be here in a week or two. 50mm's of pure PVD stealthyness!

Is there a stock photo you can show, or do we have to wait until it's delivered?

[Sauer Grapes]

Email him and he's quick to respond...

the seagull movements are pretty good, hand winds are pretty darn accurate.

Ordered a custom Getat PAM homage yesterday. I'll post up pics when it gets here, but it'll look a lot like the normal 44mm superlume he offers. In fact, it's pretty much exactly that on the front side but it's PVD'd.

[gettysburgfreak]

After looking over their website, I am pretty intrigued. Nice watches for a hundred bucks.

[Sauer Grapes]

I'll let you know what I think about quality. If I have a good experience, I'll probably be buying another in stainless or Ti instead of PVD next. I could see myself have about 3 of them eventually.

I customized some stuff, and shipping is $20 if you want the fast shipping. All together mine was $147. I could have gotten a similar one for under $100 shipped had I not done fast shipping and not added some stuff. My next one will be under $100 or close to it at least.

Also search for Jackson Tse. His webiste sucks but I've heard he is almost as good as Getat and he has some different styles.

[gettysburgfreak]

are these made in the United States?

[s15driftking]

Is there a stock photo you can show, or do we have to wait until it's delivered?


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519bGeZ7HBL._SS400_.jpg

specs
Watch Information
Brand Name: Stührling Original
Model number: 176AA.3351B11
Part Number: 176AA.3351B11
Dial window material type: krysterna
Clasp: fold-over-clasp-with-safety
Case material: black-ion-plated-stainless-steel
Case diameter: 53 millimeters
Case Thickness: 13.5 millimeters
Band material: stainless-steel
Band length: mens
Band width: 24 millimeters
Dial color: black
Bezel material: stainless-steel
Bezel Function: stationary
Calendar: Date
Movement: japanese-quartz
Water resistant depth: 165 Feet
Warranty Type: Manufacturer


cant wait! huge black watch!

[Sauer Grapes]

are these made in the United States?

Getat's and Jackson Tse's watches are made in Hong Kong. Their manual winding watches are apparently very accurate. Apparently their auto's are hit or miss at times.

[Sauer Grapes]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519bGeZ7HBL._SS400_.jpg

specs
Watch Information
Brand Name: Stührling Original
Model number: 176AA.3351B11
Part Number: 176AA.3351B11
Dial window material type: krysterna
Clasp: fold-over-clasp-with-safety
Case material: black-ion-plated-stainless-steel
Case diameter: 53 millimeters
Case Thickness: 13.5 millimeters
Band material: stainless-steel
Band length: mens
Band width: 24 millimeters
Dial color: black
Bezel material: stainless-steel
Bezel Function: stationary
Calendar: Date
Movement: japanese-quartz
Water resistant depth: 165 Feet
Warranty Type: Manufacturer


cant wait! huge black watch!

I like it. It's busy, and I'm sure it is far too big for me, but it's cool.

[s15driftking]

I like it. It's busy, and I'm sure it is far too big for me, but it's cool.

Very busy! just how i like it! will take pics when it arrives!

[Thrak]

53mm goodness man! Its like wearing a dinner plate on your wrist!

[s15driftking]

53mm goodness man! Its like wearing a dinner plate on your wrist!


thats how i roll bra!!

[s15driftking]

Just arrived!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture392.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture393.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture394.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture400.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture401.jpg

[Sauer Grapes]

what, no pics of it on?

[MikeyC]

That reminds me a lot of my Breitling (except black and the bezel looks like it came off a Bently series watch)

http://www.watchesonnet.com/images/product/large/1810_1.jpg

Is that one of those homage watches you guys were talking about at one point?

Also, what's with everyone's obsession to paint things black these days? First I saw cars with black wheels (yuck! looks dirty to me). Next I see cars with flat black paint (REALLY stupid looking if you ask me). Now black watches?

I will say 20 years ago when I was 13 I had a black and gold Seiko that I LOVED. The black paint chipped off SO fast. I was so mad.

[s15driftking]

what, no pics of it on?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture403.jpg

[Sauer Grapes]

That reminds me a lot of my Breitling (except black and the bezel looks like it came off a Bently series watch)

http://www.watchesonnet.com/images/product/large/1810_1.jpg

Is that one of those homage watches you guys were talking about at one point?

Also, what's with everyone's obsession to paint things black these days? First I saw cars with black wheels (yuck! looks dirty to me). Next I see cars with flat black paint (REALLY stupid looking if you ask me). Now black watches?

I will say 20 years ago when I was 13 I had a black and gold Seiko that I LOVED. The black paint chipped off SO fast. I was so mad.

The watches that are pvd, aren't painted black unless they aren't truly pvd. Pvd is a chemical process and it shouldn't come off easily, if at all. IIRC

[MikeyC]

The watches that are pvd, aren't painted black unless they aren't truly pvd. Pvd is a chemical process and it shouldn't come off easily, if at all. IIRC

That's good to know that PVD watches are more durable than my old Seiko. I still don't understand why everyone wants everything to be black. Maybe it's my low intellect but I like shiny things. :r

[wayner123]

Here is a good write-up on PVD process:

http://replicawatchfaqs.blogspot.com/2008/06/physical-vapor-deposition.html

It is supposed to make a watch less apt to corrosion. It's being used more frequently in diver's watches but has made it's way into fashion watches for the "black out" look.

Most PVD watches do not look as shiny black as s15driftking's. IMO the better looking PVD watches have a sort of sandblasted treatment done first. The one that s15driftking almost looks ceramic (which some watches have been made from and Rolex has been using ceramic in it's bezel's). Stuhrling's seems to have a few models which are made to look like other popular makers, Omega, Rolex, Breitling, Hublot, etc. So I can understand the comparison.

s15driftking is your quartz or automatic? And does the 53mm measurement include the pushers and crown? I ask because it does not look that large on your wrist.

[mosesbotbol]

Here is a good write-up on PVD process:

The one that s15driftking almost looks ceramic (which some watches have been made from and Rolex has been using ceramic in it's bezel's). Stuhrling's seems to have a few models which are made to look like other popular makers, Omega, Rolex, Breitling, Hublot, etc.

It loooks like the watch is anodized.

[smitdavi]

Just picked this up this past week. I now have the bracelet version and the strap version. It came with a canvas strap but it was really uncomfortable and didn't adjust well. Decided to buy a Hirsch strap to put on and now I absolutely love this watch. Fairly cheap and just a great watch.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c156/the_studd/IMG_1510.jpg

[larryinlc]

Alright, I can see that some of you guys are way bigger than me. 53mm would look pretty silly on my small wrist. Here's my biggest watch at 37mm. A Bvlgari Solotempo.

http://www.soochx.org/images/wrist.jpg

Larry

[mosesbotbol]

Here's my biggest watch at 37mm. A Bvlgari Solotempo.
http://www.soochx.org/images/wrist.jpg

Unique styling of the 12 and 6 hands.:tu

[s15driftking]

Alright, I can see that some of you guys are way bigger than me. 53mm would look pretty silly on my small wrist. Here's my biggest watch at 37mm. A Bvlgari Solotempo.


Larry

it was 53 with the crown, maybe closer to a 47mm.

I personally wouldn't wear anything smaller than 43mm because it would look just plain silly on my big wrist. That is a very cool design regardless.



And to MikeyC, the Stuhrling i bought isn't an hommage to any particular breitling although after further examination it does look like it robs a bunch of characteristics from several different brietlings, the bezel resembles the Bentley 6.75 for sure. Maybe all the breitling influence is why i like it so much.

[s15driftking]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture436.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture422.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture438.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture422.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/s15driftking/Picture435.jpg

[Lucky_Hippo]

Just picked this up this past week. I now have the bracelet version and the strap version. It came with a canvas strap but it was really uncomfortable and didn't adjust well. Decided to buy a Hirsch strap to put on and now I absolutely love this watch. Fairly cheap and just a great watch.


Nice looking watch!!! Citizen makes some of the best bang for your buck watches on the market today IMHO.

[Thrak]

Nice looking watch!!! Citizen makes some of the best bang for your buck watches on the market today IMHO.

I said the same thing a few pages back! :banger

[gettysburgfreak]

you like flossing that Breitling

[smitdavi]

you like flossing that Breitling

lol, I just about said the same thing

[s15driftking]

you like flossing that Breitling

not as much as Ludacris does...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/1295914795_7f7818301e_m.jpg

I take pics of it alot because it is by far the prettiest watch i own.

[gettysburgfreak]

Im sure it is but the watch itself doesn't change, how many times do we need to see it?

[smitdavi]

Im sure it is but the watch itself doesn't change, how many times do we need to see it?

:tpd:

[s15driftking]

Im sure it is but the watch itself doesn't change, how many times do we need to see it?

apparently not, Don't worry, let me appease you. I will be the earth, and you can be the sun!!! Just messing with you brother! I won't post pics of it anymore. No prob.

[Thrak]

I just ordered an Orange Monster on rubber. :D

$139 shipped, cant beat it!! Going to be a Xmas gift though so I cant touch it until Dec.25.

[smitdavi]

I just ordered an Orange Monster on rubber. :D

$139 shipped, cant beat it!! Going to be a Xmas gift though so I cant touch it until Dec.25.

Join the club with the "Christmas Present Thing". I've got one wrapped up and under the tree too lol

[s15driftking]

I just ordered an Orange Monster on rubber. :D

$139 shipped, cant beat it!! Going to be a Xmas gift though so I cant touch it until Dec.25.


You picked up an orange monster for 139.00 .thats un-freaking real! mind telling where? Sick price bro!

[s15driftking]

Oops, just had a weak moment, made a purchase, will be here next week. Think PVD

[Sauer Grapes]

Oops, just had a weak moment, made a purchase, will be here next week. Think PVD

What does the airport in Warwick, RI have to do with your watch?

[s15driftking]

What does the airport in Warwick, RI have to do with your watch?


Clever, very clever!

Teaser

http://www.robert-uhren.de/images/product_images/popup_images/15_3.jpg

Manual wind FTW!!!! :banger:banger:banger

[Sauer Grapes]

Is that a Getat PAM homage? Jackson Tse?