NHL '09 - '10 Thread

[icehog3]

Call DirectTv and threaten to cancel bc of the feud. They will give you NHL center ice for free! Worst they can say is no :2 Try it Tom.

Unfortunately, I had already ordered Centre Ice before I knew about the Versus deal. :(

[ahc4353]

Rangers beat the Devils last night. All is well in my world today. :D

[Mr B]

Sharks look solid and really controlled the game last night against the Ducks. The Heater got a goal and an assist and the top line looked like it is starting to gel. He actually made a really good team play on the assist and it appears he was looking for it to give back after Setto made the play on the boards to keep the puck in the zone.

Top line looked MUCH better on Sat. Good to see Heatley being a passer not just a shooter. Nabbi almost had the shutout. Nicholas is going to be a scrapper.
Take it to the Kings tonight!

[Steelergar]

Whats up with the Canucks starting goalie last night. That guy was getting compared to Roy then he let up 2 goal in 20 something seconds and was replaced. Is he good or not?

[icehog3]

Whats up with the Canucks starting goalie last night. That guy was getting compared to Roy then he let up 2 goal in 20 something seconds and was replaced. Is he good or not?

Luongo is a Top 10 goalie in the NHL....had a bad period, happens to the best of them.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Luongo is a Top 10 goalie in the NHL....had a bad period, happens to the best of them.

Luongo is a hell of a goalie:2

[Ahbroody]

Whats up with the Canucks starting goalie last night. That guy was getting compared to Roy then he let up 2 goal in 20 something seconds and was replaced. Is he good or not?

Luongo always starts slow every year and has a stinker early. Last year he was pulled in one of the first games, then if I remember right he had 3 shutouts in a row.

Trying to decide if I want to watch the Leafs fight the Sens tonight, or the flyers vs Caps. With the bad blood between the leafs and sens and Burke at the helm I think a fight or 4 is almost a sure thing.

Flyers v. Caps can Emery get a third shutout with that D infront of him? Will Ovie keep showing why he is a better player than Crosby in my book? Pronger interviewed was not to positive about Ove and his style of play. This will be a good game. Top Defense possibly in the league vs Ovie!

[Mr B]

Luongo is a Top 10 goalie in the NHL....had a bad period, happens to the best of them.


It's scary when your team has to go up against Luongo in a shoot out:cali

[gpugliese]

Luongo is a Top 10 goalie in the NHL....had a bad period, happens to the best of them.

I think Top 10 is an understatement, Top 5 or Top 2/3 might be more accurate. :D

[icehog3]

I think Top 10 is an understatement, Top 5 or Top 2/3 might be more accurate. :D

If he had been better in the playoffs the last couple seasons, I would agree.

[GHC_Hambone]

Got my Center Ice going now. Man I love it!

[gpugliese]

If he had been better in the playoffs the last couple seasons, I would agree.

I'm curious, what's your Top 5 (or Top 10 for that matter)?

[icehog3]

I'm curious, what's your Top 5 (or Top 10 for that matter)?


I will do my best to give you my current tops (the guys I would start with if I was a GM building a team from scratch). I am sure my list won't look like anyone else's, Greg, JMHOs.

1. Marty Brodeur
2. Mikka Kiprusoff
3. Henrik Lundqvist
4. Steve Mason
5. Evgeni Nabokov
6. Roberto Luongo
7. Niklas Backstrom
8. Carey Price
9. Marc-Andre Fleury
10.Ray Emery

and my up and comer, Craig Anderson.

Be fun to see your list too. :)

[GreekGodX]

Yea Tom, your list doesn't look like anyone else's :r Obviously you think goaltending is important!

[gpugliese]

Here's my ten based on last year's performances. I think some spots would be rearranged if they don't break out of their "normal" early year slumps. 5/6/7 could easily be swapped with each other, I don't watch enough of those three to go into more detail.

1. Brodeur
2. Luongo
3. Lundqvist
4. Thomas
5. Backstrom
6. Nabokov
7. Kiprusoff
8. Fleury
9. Miller
10. Any of the following: Mason, Rinne, Ellis, LeClaire (if he avoids injuries) or Anderson.

If you're team building (5+ years), I'd take Brodeur, Thomas and Kipper out and replace them with some of the younger guys who are showing great promise.

[icehog3]

Here's my ten based on last year's performances. I think some spots would be rearranged if they don't break out of their "normal" early year slumps. 5/6/7 could easily be swapped with each other, I don't watch enough of those three to go into more detail.

1. Brodeur
2. Luongo
3. Lundqvist
4. Thomas
5. Backstrom
6. Nabokov
7. Kiprusoff
8. Fleury
9. Miller
10. Any of the following: Mason, Rinne, Ellis, LeClaire (if he avoids injuries) or Anderson.

If you're team building (5+ years), I'd take Brodeur, Thomas and Kipper out and replace them with some of the younger guys who are showing great promise.


I forgot all about Thomas, good call Greg. :tu

I only strongly disagree with Mason not being Top 5 if based on last year's play...the kid basically won a playoff spot all by himself.

[GreekGodX]

Paging Mr. Icehog!!!

Season Series
Wings 1
Hawks 0

[icehog3]

Hawks played a great 1st and a great 3rd, Christos. Two periods ain't enough against the Red Wings. :(

Congrats on the win, 5 more to go. ;)

[GreekGodX]

Hawks played a great 1st and a great 3rd, Christos. Two periods ain't enough against the Red Wings. :(

Congrats on the win, 5 more to go. ;)

Those 2 periods were great and scare me for the future games.. Next game Dec 20th in Chicago

[ahc4353]

Game you believe that Devil game! :c

Just goes to show you NEVER give up!

[Sawyer]

With a win over the Blues last night, the Thrashers start out 2-0 for the first time since 2003. Kovalchuk scored his 300th and 301st career NHL goals and Evander Kane got his first NHL goal last night. The Thrashers have won 14 of the last 20 going back to last season. Maybe they will finally make another run at the playoffs. Ten goals in two games is nice. I just hope they can keep it up.

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Game you believe that Devil game! :c

Just goes to show you NEVER give up!



I didnt have a chance to watch it but to get the puck in with ~1 second left to tie it up is amazing...Then of course we pulled it together....FINALLY:banger:D

[Ahbroody]

So pissed Was watching Sharks game and it looked like they were mailing it in again. Down 1-0 and just no push. Decide I will go to the gym and lift. not even out of the neighboorhood its tied. Get to the gym is 2-1 and fights are breaking loose. Final score 6-3 Sharks. Heater got a Hatrick and the crowd was chanting his name. Jumbo/Thorton had a 4 point night almost had a 5. The Sharks are inconsistent right now. Jumbo in the post game basically said they are starting to gel as a team. He said they are going to score a lot of goals. Advice to Fantasy guys. PICK UP HEATER!!

As Al also experineced lastnight and everyone always says. You can never give up on games anymore and you never know whats going to happen.

[SilverFox]

Flames are 4-0

I figured it was all done last night Oil was up 3-2 in the dying seconds of the 3rd then with 1.5 on the clock and the extra attacker boom we score - Flames in the shoot out.

Still a ton of hockey to play, but I like how Sutter coaches, these guys stuck with it and it worked.

[Mr B]

Great game from the Sharks. Awesome seeing Heatley get the Hat Trick at his first home appearance. Seto had 2 also. Columbus pulled their goalie after 5 goals. Nabbi got some redemption, although he still let 3 get by.
I think Seto will have the hat trick soon. This is his second 2 goal game out of just 4 games.
:banger

[E.J.]

Thought Anderson played well in the loss. That is a tough way to start this brutal road trip for the Avs....

[icehog3]

Advice to Fantasy guys. PICK UP HEATER!!



He is already long gone in fantasy leagues I am following. ;)

Thought Anderson played well in the loss. That is a tough way to start this brutal road trip for the Avs....

Glad Craig is off to such a good start! :D

[kugie]

The bruins last night :pu all over them selves, if thomas keeps playing like that Tuukka Rask had better get more chances in net.
All That money for a 35 yo goalie that has won squat :bh
Now don't get me wrong the rest of the team stunk up the joint as well. But the soft goals?????

[DPD6030]

Let's go Red Wings :ih

[icehog3]

Let's go Red Wings :ih

And take the Lions with ya.... :fu

[E.J.]

Come on Avs....BIG THIRD!

[DPD6030]

Wings win again! :wo

[icehog3]

Come on Avs....BIG THIRD!

9 round shootout, wow!

Only team I want to see Anderson lose to is the Hawks.

[E.J.]

Avs pull their first win of the road trip....

What are they doing playing in the middle of the day while I am at work.....:td

[icehog3]

Avs pull their first win of the road trip....

What are they doing playing in the middle of the day while I am at work.....:td

Craig has another stellar game in net. :tu

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Devils just came back from 2-0 against the Capitals. Won it in the shoot out!

[Ahbroody]

at the sharks yotes game.
no better sporting event live then a hockey game!!

[Ahbroody]

woot!
bonus hockey. sharks passing is crap tonight and the yotes are playing great positionaly.

[icehog3]

Hawks came back against Calgary from a 5-0 deficit to win 6-5 in OT. Biggest comeback in their history. :wo

[King James]

Hawks came back against Calgary from a 5-0 deficit to win 6-5 in OT. Biggest comeback in their history. :wo

awesome stuff! :banger

Sens lost though :(

[Prefy]

Hawks came back against Calgary from a 5-0 deficit to win 6-5 in OT. Biggest comeback in their history. :wo

I didn't believe my eyes when I saw the ticker

[ahc4353]

Congrats Tom. I think the Flames boys are on suicide watch today. :D

It will be interesting to here what Fox's views are.

[GHC_Hambone]

Man good thing I didn't switch off that Hawks game when they were down 5-0. Never should have been in that spot, but amazing comeback! Both goalies looked shaky but Niemi eventually settled down.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Man good thing I didn't switch off that Hawks game when they were down 5-0. Never should have been in that spot, but amazing comeback! Both goalies looked shaky but Niemi eventually settled down.

I wish I could have watched the game. I got home, flipped on CSN and watched the highlights, hell of a comeback:banger

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Anybody watching the Detroit-Buffalo game? Wow Buffalo is just running over Detroit. 7:14 left in the 2nd and the score is already 5-1 in favor of Detroit

[icehog3]

Wings are getting basted. ;)

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Lets go Hawks:banger The puck is about to drop

[GHC_Hambone]

Lets go Hawks:banger The puck is about to drop

No Huet/Khabibulin matchup, Niemi in net tonight. Go Hawks.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

You gotta be kidding me:r

[SmokeyJoe]

Hurricanes are taking the Penguins into a shootout! Good comeback by the 'Canes...

Now, if we can just get two points instead of just one. :ss

[SmokeyJoe]

Congrats to the Pens... but I was pleased with the Hurricanes' effort. :ss

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Congrats to the Pens... but I was pleased with the Hurricanes' effort. :ss

Sorry about the Canes lost Joe. I wanted them to beat the Pens

[KidRock]

whats up with the wings??

Watch out for Darren "nightmareon" Helm and Justin Applekater...:banger

[icehog3]

No Huet/Khabibulin matchup, Niemi in net tonight. Go Hawks.

Better for Huet's head right now, the home crowd is not showing him any love, and a loss to the Bulin Wall could have been devastating to his fragile confidence. Niemi played well enough to get the Hawks a win, but was not overly impressive, as he didn't have to face many shots.

Hope the Canes go on a roll, Joe. :tu

[kugie]

this has to be one great Goal
Check this out.
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/extras/bruins_blog/2009/10/the_most_talked.html

[ahc4353]

Awesome!

[ahc4353]

Sorry about the Canes lost Joe. I wanted them to beat the Pens


I want everyone to beat the Pens.

[Ahbroody]

this has to be one great Goal
Check this out.
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/extras/bruins_blog/2009/10/the_most_talked.html

I am sure this kid feels honored to be copied. Remember seeing this in 06 or 07 on sports center. This kids from texas though and he pulled it in front of 17,000 at intermission. Very Cool stuff though to see little kids pulling Michigans like that. Pretty sure Micah wont be rocking this move in 5-6 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afv8tzB5shQ

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

I want everyone to beat the Pens.

Lets not be salty about last year Al:r Seriously though, I agree. I think the first game the hawks play Pit is in December at Pit, so it will be marked on my calander for sure.

[King James]

Come on Sens!

Wish I could watch the damn game. I pay $10 a month for the uverse sports package, and all the damn games I want to watch on fox sports channels and that are blocked out in my area. So I'm basically paying $10 a month to get the NHL channel. May just drop it and be happy w/ the games that get put on U-Verse.....at least until playoffs

playoffs?! you're talking about playoffs?! playoffs!??

[Prefy]

Come on Sens!

Wish I could watch the damn game. I pay $10 a month for the uverse sports package, and all the damn games I want to watch on fox sports channels and that are blocked out in my area. So I'm basically paying $10 a month to get the NHL channel. May just drop it and be happy w/ the games that get put on U-Verse.....at least until playoffs

playoffs?! you're talking about playoffs?! playoffs!??

HERE (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/MOVIES-AND-NHL) you go

[King James]

HERE (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/MOVIES-AND-NHL) you go

Awesome! Thanks!

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll248/Beaster77/were-not-worthy.jpg
I'm Not Worthy!

[King James]

wow!

Sens are whoopin' on the bolts. 5-0 in the middle of the 2nd

hope the bolts don't come back like the hawks did the other night!...but not looking good

[E.J.]

Though I don't want to make more out of 7 games, than 7 games really is.... Avs 5-1-1.....not exactly the start I was thinking....

Anderson continues to play GREAT.... At .940 for the season.....:ss

[DPD6030]

Great game Wings v Kings. Wings win! :D

[icehog3]

Hawks won their 4th in a row, and Anderson gets a big win in Montreal...a good night for NHL hockey. :)

[DPD6030]

Hawks won their 4th in a row, and Anderson gets a big win in Montreal...a good night for NHL hockey. :)

:tu Yeah for Osgood and Anderson, both my fantasy goalies ;)

[Ahbroody]

The sharks were horrid!
Watched part of the Yotes and Blues game. I saw the same thing from the coyotes tonight as when they played the sharks. Always positionally sound intercept a ton of breakout passes. Just very solid defensively. I believe they are near the lowest goals against currently. Not always the most exciting style of play if you dont like good D, but I am very impressed with there improvememnt.

[Sawyer]

Thrashers top the Devils in a great game. Any time you can put 4 past Brodeur you have to be happy. Evander Kane is looking good and gets his second goal. Pavelec was impressive as well and I am happy the Thrashers finally have a consistent netminder.

Also, 5-5 on the PK and a shorthanded goal is nice.

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Thrashers top the Devils in a great game. Any time you can put 4 past Brodeur you have to be happy. Evander Kane is looking good and gets his second goal. Pavelec was impressive as well and I am happy the Thrashers finally have a consistent netminder.



UGH I cant believe we (the Devils) played like we did. Atleast 2 goals I saw could and should have been stopped

[kugie]

Bruins Win down go the Stars
Thomas with the Shutout 3-0

[E.J.]

AVS!!!!

GREAT third....controlled OT, win in the shootout....NICE!

[Sawyer]

Thrashers are on a roll. Kovalchuk scores another 2 goals tonight to help the Thrashers go to 4-1 on the season by handing the Sabres their first regulation loss this season. Best start in franchise history. Go Thrashers!

[Prefy]

Habs lose their 5th in a row...defense isn't looking so good. Anyone want Hal Gill?:r

[MedicCook]

How about the Rangers putting up 7 straight wins!!

[icehog3]

AVS!!!!

GREAT third....controlled OT, win in the shootout....NICE!

Craig is on a roll! :tu

Hawks goaltending was shoddy again...They need to score 4-5 goals a game to have a chance to win the way Huet is playing. :mad:

[Ahbroody]

Sharks win Clowe lays the beat down and yet again the Yotes put up another rock solid game beating the Bruins easily. Im telling you guys if you get a chance start watching the coyotes games. Solid solid hockey being played in the Desert.

[Azpostal]

Yes! Gotta enjoy every win we can get out here. I love going to the games when we hammer a prestigious team from the east! Oh well I guess next year I'll have to find a new team or move to CANADA.

[kugie]

What is the deal with the Bruins
One night Steller and the next a :pn
No Defense no Goal tending and the offense is non-existing.
If they do a first to worst it is gonna be a crappy year.
Let's hope for a better team in the coming months

[Ahbroody]

Its part bruins part the fact that the Yotes are playing amazing positional hockey. They are always in the right place. They constantly stop break outs and are always in passing lanes. I mean come on they have only allowed 10 goals this year so far. That is the fewest goals allowed in THE WHOLE LEAGUE!

I said it before and I will say it again. The NHL needs to pull its head out and have some games on sundays during football season.

[Steelergar]

I've been impressed with the yotes too. I thought the penguins were going to kill them. But the yotes defense totally shut down their offense. I've been paying attention to the ever since. Too bad they don't get much attendance at home, that might affect them after awihle.

[Azpostal]

I've been impressed with the yotes too. I thought the penguins were going to kill them. But the yotes defense totally shut down their offense. I've been paying attention to the ever since. Too bad they don't get much attendance at home, that might affect them after awihle.

They do have an excellent defense and the arena was only half full on Saturday. I think people out here just got tired of the BS that has been going on since the summer.

[ahc4353]

Rangers are going Shark hunting tonight! :dance:

[Ahbroody]

Well I would wager a bet, but they are so hot and cold right now you just dont know what will happen.

Will be at Micahs hockey pratice for much of the game so will have to use my phone to get updates :(
Hopefully the Rangers get bit in the ass.

[ahc4353]

U should have bet. :D.

[Sawyer]

Pavelec was amazing for the Thrashers right up until the shootout. Oh well, still got a point and they finally come back to Blueland on Thursday after a 7 point road trip. Two really tough games coming up against the Caps and Sharks. Would be nice to get at least one of them. They are going to have to be better on offense than they were tonight if they want to have a chance.

[Ahbroody]

U should have bet. :D.
Like I knew the rangers were going to run their Jr. B Goalie out there. :r
Even the sharks feed was talking about how bad the goalie was playing. Too deep in the net and giving up eggs all over the front of the net.

Still they did play strong but you just dont know what team is going to show up this early in the year.

[ahc4353]

My friends son is listed on the NHL Draft Central as a player to watch for in the upcoming entry draft!

He's the goalie on Mitch's team.

How cool is that!!?

[Prefy]

My friends son is listed on the NHL Draft Central as a player to watch for in the upcoming entry draft!

He's the goalie on Mitch's team.

How cool is that!!?

That's pretty cool Al

Habs win a close one tonight...we still need to get rid of Hal Gill :r

[Ahbroody]

My friends son is listed on the NHL Draft Central as a player to watch for in the upcoming entry draft!

He's the goalie on Mitch's team.

How cool is that!!?
Petty freakin cool, butts in the stand watching the goalie, but hey that D guy hes not so bad. Whats his name? :tu
You got my positive thoughts brother hopefully he may get some extra looks as a result. TAKE THE BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[icehog3]

That's pretty cool Al

Habs win a close one tonight...we still need to get rid of Hal Gill :r

He's still in the NHL? :r

[icehog3]

Joe, hope the 'Canes can get you a pre-Birthday win tonight! :wo

I am heading to the Hawks game tonight, and thinking about heading to the Wolves game Friday for Chris Chelios' Wolves debut.

[Prefy]

Joe, hope the 'Canes can get you a pre-Birthday win tonight! :wo

I am heading to the Hawks game tonight, and thinking about heading to the Wolves game Friday for Chris Chelios' Wolves debut.

Sounds like a good time...Im going to have to make over to Buffalo soon to get a live NHL fix.

The Wolves have had a rough start to the year...maybe chelly will turn em around(not that I really want to see that happen from a Moose fan perspective:r).

[icehog3]

Sounds like a good time...Im going to have to make over to Buffalo soon to get a live NHL fix.

The Wolves have had a rough start to the year...maybe chelly will turn em around(not that I really want to see that happen from a Moose fan perspective:r).

That's who they play Friday I believe, Matt. Wolves fired their coaching staff Monday, so big changes should be afoot. They sure need them, the Icehogs are gobbling them up so far.

[Prefy]

That's who they play Friday I believe, Matt. Wolves fired their coaching staff Monday, so big changes should be afoot. They sure need them, the Icehogs are gobbling them up so far.

Ya thats what I thought...Moose are looking pretty good so far from what I hear. Biggest thing is their goaltending has been strong.

Who are they looking to take the reigns behind the bench?

[icehog3]

Ya thats what I thought...Moose are looking pretty good so far from what I hear. Biggest thing is their goaltending has been strong.

Who are they looking to take the reigns behind the bench?

They haven't tipped their hand at all. If Chelios wasn't so Hellbent on getting back to the Big Show, I'd guess they might make the mistake of offering him the "Player-Coach" title.

[icehog3]

If I go Friday I will post on the game and tell you how the Moose looked, Matt.

[Prefy]

If I go Friday I will post on the game and tell you how the Moose looked, Matt.

Good stuff..might have to tune into the broadcast if I'm not out and about.

Watch out Shirkov...hes been tearing it up as of late

[icehog3]

Good stuff..might have to tune into the broadcast if I'm not out and about.

Watch out Shirkov...hes been tearing it up as of late

Cool...Who are the Moose's NHL team?

[Prefy]

Cool...Who are the Moose's NHL team?

The Canucks

[icehog3]

The Canucks

GRRRRRR...that's who the Hawks play tonight. I don't like 'em!! :r

[Prefy]

GRRRRRR...that's who the Hawks play tonight. I don't like 'em!! :r

:r:r Moose/Canucks walking away with 4 pts from he Windy city this week:D

[icehog3]

:r:r Moose/Canucks walking away with 4 pts from he Windy city this week:D

I can live with 2 for the Moose....not so much for Alex Burrows and the Hair Pullers. ;)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/burrowe.png

[Prefy]

I can live with 2 for the Moose....not so much for Alex Burrows and the Hair Pullers. ;)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/burrowe.png

:r :r

[icehog3]

Have a great night, Matt, hopefully I will see you here after the game. :)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/blackhawks.jpg

[Ahbroody]

I can live with 2 for the Moose....not so much for Alex Burrows and the Hair Pullers. ;)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/burrowe.png
OOOOOO thats a bish move. He better be ear gauging him back. Just hear him now. "Let go of my hair Bit*c!"

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/burrowe.png

OOOOOO thats a bish move. He better be ear gauging him back. Just hear him now. "Let go of my hair Bit*c!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bzdA3db5ak

[ahc4353]

The whole hair pulling thing is so cheap. Jr. got into a fight two years ago and the kid ripped out a clump of his hair. Gross, right down to the meat. They reviewed the tape after the game and the kid got a ten game suspension, about on quarter of the league season.

[Ahbroody]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bzdA3db5ak
Man I like byfuglein style of play but that was kind of a douche move giving Luongo the shot to the head. Dont like Luongo much, but still.

Love Ben Eager body slaming Bieksa. Kind of dangerous, but pure WWE!

[icehog3]

Man I like byfuglein style of play but that was kind of a douche move giving him the shot to the head.

Love Ben Eager body slaming Bieksa. Kind of dangerous, but pure WWE!

Definitely no need for Big Buff to hit Luongo, but those two went at it the whole series...and I will be there tonight when they "rekindle their love". :r

Eager was just lucky he didn't hit his head harder (without the helmet) on that body slam.

[Ahbroody]

Definitely no need for Big Buff to hit Luongo, but those two went at it the whole series...and I will be there tonight when they "rekindle their love". :r

Eager was just lucky he didn't hit his head harder (without the helmet) on that body slam.

Yeah but could have imagined all the hell if he straigned his back or groin falling back. Vancouver would have called for a public hanging. :r

First thing I thought when I saw that slam comming was OOOOOO shiet! Would have been scary as hell if Bieksa had lost his helmet and landed wrong Carrer or life ending possibly. Have not seen a body slam like that before.

Micahs fist Minimite game this Saturday. Bringing the video cam to watch the trainwreck unfold. Hopefully he knocks someone down. He likes to bump kids off the puck guess working on that in the garage was not the best idea:banger

[icehog3]

Tell Micah good luck! :tu

If the Vancouver fans had called for a public hanging for Buff, would it have been by the hair? :r

[E.J.]

Little frustrated with the DOG penalty Wolski took late in the third....

All in all, great road trip(4-1-2) for the Avs.

[SmokeyJoe]

Hurricanes lost in another shootout...

to the ISLANDERS!? This could be a long season for Carolina fans. :(

[Ahbroody]

I think they will get it rolling Joe.

[BarneyBandMan]

Hurricanes lost in another shootout...

to the ISLANDERS!? This could be a long season for Carolina fans. :(

Chin up, my friend. There were a couple of bright spots last night. We will get there.:D

[Ahbroody]

Now the Yotes take out the Wings!
Man this team is playing well. I keep saying it. Watch them.

[Azpostal]

Yes! Bring on the rest of the originals!

[GreekGodX]

Now the Yotes take out the Wings!
Man this team is playing well. I keep saying it. Watch them.

The tying goal was b.s. Coyotes clearly pushed Ozzie into the net, but game is over now and the season moves on.

[DPD6030]

The tying goal was b.s. Coyotes clearly pushed Ozzie into the net, but game is over now and the season moves on.

Disagree to a point, IMO, wings push the yote into Osgood. Still sucks for Detroit though.

[Sawyer]

Thrasher's goalie Pavelec gave up 3 goals in 88 secs, starting with a 175-foot fluke goal, to the Capitals in a 5-4 loss. That was embarrassing. He was playing so well too. I hope it doesn't screw up his confidence. At least we will get a chance for redemption next Thursday.

[icehog3]

The tying goal was b.s. Coyotes clearly pushed Ozzie into the net, but game is over now and the season moves on.

Rules say you can't push the goalie in when he is covering the puck...Ozzie clearly was not, Christos, and to me it also looked like the Wings pushing the 'yote player. At least they got a point, more than the Hawks have gotten in their last 2 games.

[icehog3]

Headin to the Wolves - Moose AHL game tonight for Chris Chelios' AHL debut.....hope he does us old guys proud. :)

[ahc4353]

I'm sure he will! Have fun Tom.

[icehog3]

I'm sure he will! Have fun Tom.

Thanks Al, it should be cool to be there regardless, but I am rooting for Chris to open up some NHL team's eyes....maybe someone with a young defensive core who need a 5th-6th DMan who has some teaching skills.

[ahc4353]

Sounds like a plan. Tell him us old guys are pulling for him!


Thanks Al, it should be cool to be there regardless, but I am rooting for Chris to open up some NHL team's eyes....maybe someone with a young defensive core who need a 5th-6th DMan who has some teaching skills.

[Prefy]

Chelios Bumps the Manitoba's Mike Keane out of the AHL old timer spot with his debut tonight. I know since Mike joined the Moose back in the lockout season that many have benefited from his veteran presence.

[icehog3]

Chelios Bumps the Manitoba's Mike Keane out of the AHL old timer spot with his debut tonight. I know since Mike joined the Moose back in the lockout season that many have benefited from his veteran presence.

Is he still playing for them Matt?

[Prefy]

Is he still playing for them Matt?

Yep

[Prefy]

How was the game Tom? Saw the score 1-0 moose in a shootout...exciting 1-0 or a sleeper?

I see Manny Legace was between the Pipes for the Wolves...I always really liked him(he autographed a card for me back in the day when he played for the Moose before he made the jump to Detroit).

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Devils played well against the Rangers on Thursday. Todays game against Pittsburgh will be a tough one. I hope we can pull it off

[Steelergar]

Sidney Crosby is the man. The pens take the night off and Crosby picks up the slack with 3 goals 3 different ways (ppg, shg, sog)

[icehog3]

How was the game Tom? Saw the score 1-0 moose in a shootout...exciting 1-0 or a sleeper?

I see Manny Legace was between the Pipes for the Wolves...I always really liked him(he autographed a card for me back in the day when he played for the Moose before he made the jump to Detroit).

It was pitiful, Matt. I can see why the Wolves have only 1 win in 7 or 8 games, they can't pass, don't know when to shoot...they are a mess.

The Moose didn't look much better....the two players who really stood out, at least from a speed standpoint, were Matt Pettinger and Marco Rosa. Maybe Rosa will get a look in the Big Game sometime this season, I know Pettinger has been up and down.

I feel bad for Chelios....first, the building was empty. So much for a homecoming. Secondly, the team just can't play, or at least not within this system. He has to be frustrated starting a breakout only to watch his team turn over the puck time and time again.

[E.J.]

AVS!!!

45 saves by Anderson tonight.

In my wildest dreams would not have guessed a start like this.....

8-1-2.....:wo

[icehog3]

Anderson has been unbelievable, I am thrilled for him. :tu

Huet actually had himself a great game and put the Hawks back in the win column with a 2-0 shutout.

[Ahbroody]

Sharks almost didnt beat the Thrashers without Kovalchuck as he left in the first. They better get their Shiet together.

Looks like Ruutus hit on Tucker cost him 60k and 3 games.
Artyukhin suspended 3 games and fined 35 k for slewfooting
Ovechkin fined and not suspended for slewfooting peverley.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=503265#&navid=nhl-search

Decent article, but to say Ovechkin isnt a dirty player at times is kind of funny.


Hoooray three games tonight. I have a feeling the sharks are going to get worked like a borrowed mule tonight against philly

[icehog3]

Ovechkin has a history of this kind of stuff. On Hockey Night in Canada last night, Don Cherry opined that he likes Ovie, but that someday payback is gonna be a b#tch. ;)

[Ahbroody]

Ovechkin has a history of this kind of stuff. On Hockey Night in Canada last night, Don Cherry opined that he likes Ovie, but that someday payback is gonna be a b#tch. ;)

Wait Grapes said he likes Ovie?
That dude hates anyone who aint a "good ole Canadian Boy" Still remember that Soccer celebration/Goal celebration clip where he personally called out Ovie. That was the whole incident where Ovie did the stick on fire dance after a goal afterwards to piss him off more. Cherry makes me laugh and he is great, but that dude HATES EUROS!!!!!

[gorob23]

Patrick Kane
Right Wing - CHI
Video ›
Number: 88
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: 178
Shoots: Left
Born: Nov 19, 1988 (Age 20)
Birthplace: Buffalo, NY, United States

Drafted: CHI / 2007 NHL Entry Draft
Round: 1st (1st overall)

:wo I LOVE Patrick KANE!

Get home Friday and am running around until late yesterday..open a box from Tom ...a Patrick Kane Sweater ( isn't that what we call the Hockey tops?) So I can now sport my teams colors....:tu

Thank you Sir and I guess I gotta go back to work and start watching to see how my Favorite Player does..

Had an assited last night :tu

and you know this is only giving me more work to do :rlz

[Prefy]

Patrick Kane
Right Wing - CHI
Video ›
Number: 88
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: 178
Shoots: Left
Born: Nov 19, 1988 (Age 20)
Birthplace: Buffalo, NY, United States

Drafted: CHI / 2007 NHL Entry Draft
Round: 1st (1st overall)

:wo I LOVE Patrick KANE!

Get home Friday and am running around until late yesterday..open a box from Tom ...a Patrick Kane Sweater ( isn't that what we call the Hockey tops?) So I can now sport my teams colors....:tu

Thank you Sir and I guess I gotta go back to work and start watching to see how my Favorite Player does..

Had an assited last night :tu

and you know this is only giving me more work to do :rlz

Good Job Tom!

[icehog3]

Wait Grapes said he likes Ovie?
That dude hates anyone who aint a "good ole Canadian Boy" Still remember that Soccer celebration/Goal celebration clip where he personally called out Ovie. That was the whole incident where Ovie did the stick on fire dance after a goal afterwards to piss him off more. Cherry makes me laugh and he is great, but that dude HATES EUROS!!!!!

I was suprised too...Cherry said he "likes the way Ovechkin plays the game, that he is (Cherry's) kind of player". I don't remember ever hear him praising an Eastern European before.

Patrick Kane
Right Wing - CHI
Video ›
Number: 88
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: 178
Shoots: Left
Born: Nov 19, 1988 (Age 20)
Birthplace: Buffalo, NY, United States

Drafted: CHI / 2007 NHL Entry Draft
Round: 1st (1st overall)

:wo I LOVE Patrick KANE!

Get home Friday and am running around until late yesterday..open a box from Tom ...a Patrick Kane Sweater ( isn't that what we call the Hockey tops?) So I can now sport my teams colors....:tu

Thank you Sir and I guess I gotta go back to work and start watching to see how my Favorite Player does..

Had an assited last night :tu

and you know this is only giving me more work to do :rlz

The only work you need to do is sport the jersey on game nights and keep giving Kane some luck! The BLACKHAWKS LOVE ROB!

Good Job Tom!

Thanks Matt....did you see my comments on the Moose?

[Prefy]

Thanks Matt....did you see my comments on the Moose?

I missed em :D

Comments kind of sound like the AHL. That the big difference early in the season I have found between he AHL and the NHL. The play seems to be sloppy , and I think for the most part that a lot to do with the inexperience of the majority of the players on the team. Come back and watch some games in January and you will be amazed by the improvement.

I didn't realize that most of the Moose Firepower was up with the big club, Bolduc, Grabner and Shirokov had all been called up the week previous. Might be one reason why it was such a low scoring affair.

[icehog3]

It was borderline pathetic, Matt.....Pettinger, Rosa and Chelios were the only players I was even moderately impressed with.

[Prefy]

It was borderline pathetic, Matt.....Pettinger, Rosa and Chelios were the only players I was even moderately impressed with.

I guess you'll have to go check out the Moose and Icehogs in November for a comparison

[icehog3]

I guess you'll have to go check out the Moose and Icehogs in November for a comparison

I try to get out to Rockford for a couple of games per season, maybe I will try to make that one.

[smokeyandthebandit05]

I cant believe the Devils beat the Pens

[Sawyer]

Sharks almost didnt beat the Thrashers without Kovalchuck as he left in the first. They better get their Shiet together.


Especially since the Shark's second goal came on a power play that should have gone the other way and the fourth goal was just lucky. I feel that if Kovalchuk hadn't had to leave the game and that penalty was called correctly that the Thrashers would have easily won.

[icehog3]

Craig Anderson with another shutout.....Chicago never should have let him go.

[GHC_Hambone]

Craig Anderson with another shutout.....Chicago never should have let him go.

Yeah, remember that one guy we let go? His name started with an H......Hasek I think?

[icehog3]

Yeah, remember that one guy we let go? His name started with an H......Hasek I think?

Even Hasek couldn't have saved the Hawks in the late 90's and early '00s. :2

[Ahbroody]

Craig Anderson with another shutout.....Chicago never should have let him go.

True but I think the panthers are getting laughed at a little harder.
Well I mean people have laughed at them for years, but now its really bad.

[GreekGodX]

Finally Datsuyk came alive. 2 goals and an assist in the win over Vancouver. I don't know what we are doing with our goalie situation. Ozzie faced 4 shots and allowed 2 goals. He may be the man in the playoffs but we have to make it there first.

[Ahbroody]

Hey theres the wing fan I was wondering where you went. Its okay to call your team out when they loose I do it with the Sharks and Tom does it with the Hawks :r

You guys in detroit got an interesting issue. You guys may end up as the flyers of recent years. Pretty solid from the blue line out, but no stability in Goal. I said last year that this was the year the cap was finally going to take a hit on the Wings. So far this looks like the case. Sure the wings will make the playoffs, just expect goal tending issues and some up and down nights.

Taking Micah to the Sharks game tonight. His first one of the season. Love taking him because he has been going since birth. One of the only little kids you will ever see not bouncing in his seat, just sits there and watches the game repeating what dad yells. :r

[E.J.]

Craig Anderson with another shutout.....Chicago never should have let him go.

AMAZING.... He is playing sooooo well and I think that translates to confidence to the D in front of him. For such a young team, they play with A LOT of confidence and are making few mistakes.

What a great start to the season..... It is EARLY....but doesn't make this any less fun.:tu

[King James]

Got to watch most of the Caps game last night, got a nice W with Ovechkin making it look worse than it was at the end on empty net

[icehog3]

True but I think the panthers are getting laughed at a little harder.
Well I mean people have laughed at them for years, but now its really bad.

Yes, he should have been the Panther's number 1 goalie last year, but they couldn't do that with Vokoun's big contract...it would have been admitting a mistake. Well, they made an even bigger mistake in the off-season letting Anderson sign elsewhere.

Hey theres the wing fan I was wondering where you went. Its okay to call your team out when they loose I do it with the Sharks and Tom does it with the Hawks :r

You guys in detroit got an interesting issue. You guys may end up as the flyers of recent years. Pretty solid from the blue line out, but no stability in Goal. I said last year that this was the year the cap was finally going to take a hit on the Wings. So far this looks like the case. Sure the wings will make the playoffs, just expect goal tending issues and some up and down nights.

Taking Micah to the Sharks game tonight. His first one of the season. Love taking him because he has been going since birth. One of the only little kids you will ever see not bouncing in his seat, just sits there and watches the game repeating what dad yells. :r

This could well be the Hawks' Achilles heel this year as well. Huet has had two solid games in a row and all the columnists, etc., in Chicago are saying he has turned the corner....Me? I ain't so sure.

[Ahbroody]

this not so slender lady next to me is ruining this game. Every lost faceoff or turnover or shot tht doesnt result in a goal is met with a barage of ooo geez, come on, what are they doing, etc.

[E.J.]

Unbelievable....:D

Nice last 58:50 for the Avs!

[Azpostal]

Well after 2 losses in a row the Yotes found a way to win!

[GreekGodX]

this not so slender lady next to me is ruining this game. Every lost faceoff or turnover or shot tht doesnt result in a goal is met with a barage of ooo geez, come on, what are they doing, etc.

Shootout win for your sharks last night :tu

Did you think I wouldn't chime in about the Wings at some point ;)

[DPD6030]

Wings down 1-0 3 minutes into the game :td

[Mr.Maduro]

Who's looking forward to "50 Years Behind the Mask" Sunday @ 7pm on the NHL channel?

[icehog3]

Who's looking forward to "50 Years Behind the Mask" Sunday @ 7pm on the NHL channel?

TiVo is all set, Patrick. :D

[Ahbroody]

they have been hyping it all week on xm 204.
Seriously if you guys dont have xm radio for the hockey talk you need to get it. Then again out here in Cali we need it because radio is CRAP for hockey.

5-2 edmonton after 2. Watching a stream. Funny last night the wings had found their game tonight its back to goaltending is killing them.

[icehog3]

Red Wings signed Todd Bertuzzi.

OOOOOOooOOOOooOoooo Zingaah!
I dont know. I am saying 25 goals on that team.


I will take "the under" on that one, Mike. ;)

not really but what the hell cc 5er?
I dont have extensive, but by the end of the season I should

Bertuzzi better pick it up for you, Mike...he got his 2nd of the season tonight. ;)

[Ahbroody]

Bertuzzi better pick it up for you, Mike...he got his 2nd of the season tonight. ;)

I would just send you a fiver now, but my selection is the suck still. By the end of the season I should be able to smack you good.

They keep dropping them to. They loose tonight. Why I bet for anyone in a Wings uniform is beyond me.

[Eleven]

This is one of the first times in years that even with injuries, I ain't sweating the situation the Penguins are in.

Biggest surprise of the year for me is the Avalanche. And the Coyotes!

[E.J.]

Biggest surprise of the year for me is the Avalanche.

Amazing early season run. I would have expected to hit 22 points in DECEMBER.....:ss

[GreekGodX]

I would just send you a fiver now, but my selection is the suck still. By the end of the season I should be able to smack you good.

They keep dropping them to. They loose tonight. Why I bet for anyone in a Wings uniform is beyond me.

Because at the end of the day you know its the sound choice. I don't know about Bertuzzi getting 25 goals but the Wings will be playing better hockey when playoffs roll around.

[icehog3]

Because at the end of the day you know its the sound choice. I don't know about Bertuzzi getting 25 goals but the Wings will be playing better hockey when playoffs roll around.

Or not.




Relax, Christos, just pimpin' ya!! Maybe you guys need to re-sign Chelios! :D

[GreekGodX]

Or not.




Relax, Christos, just pimpin' ya!! Maybe you guys need to re-sign Chelios! :D

Maybe if he's willing to play goalie :r He can't be any worse right? :rolleyes:

[icehog3]

Maybe if he's willing to play goalie :r He can't be any worse right? :rolleyes:

Howard is brutal....is Ozzie hurt?

[GreekGodX]

Howard is brutal....is Ozzie hurt?

We've known for a while Howard wasn't very good. Ozzie is going through another mental breakdown is what it seems like.

Letting Conklin go is really going to hurt us during the regular season. Ozzie can't be relied on for a whole season. He needs to be platooned until the playoffs start.

[Azpostal]

Another shut out!

[icehog3]

We've known for a while Howard wasn't very good. Ozzie is going through another mental breakdown is what it seems like.

Letting Conklin go is really going to hurt us during the regular season. Ozzie can't be relied on for a whole season. He needs to be platooned until the playoffs start.

Letting Conklin go was probably a mistake, though I don't know the Wings' salary cap considerations.

Ozzie does have a pretty proven track record in the playoffs, hard to argue with that.

[kugie]

today was anice win by the B's good game all around and even though they did not win on thursday that was also a good game
It is nice to seem hem sarting to play like the team they can be.

[Azpostal]

Another SO win!

[Sawyer]

Thrashers have to go on the road to start winning again. A 50 save game for Pavelec against Ottawa. If anyone gets a chance to watch the highlights, there are some amazing saves on there. It took a 2-man advantage for them to even get their one goal.

[E.J.]

Avs lose to Raycroft.....:td

Get to go home for 3 and get back on track.

[Ahbroody]

They lost to Nabby and the Sharks also.
The Sharks have been playing well finally. Looks like maybe things are finally starting to click. Heatley is doing exactly what they brought him in to do. Marleau is having a typical Pattie season, Super solid. Hoping with the preasure on Heatley in the playoffs maybe he will do well this year in the post season.

[SmokeyJoe]

They lost to Nabby and the Sharks also.
The Sharks have been playing well finally. Looks like maybe things are finally starting to click. Heatley is doing exactly what they brought him in to do. Marleau is having a typical Pattie season, Super solid. Hoping with the preasure on Heatley in the playoffs maybe he will do well this year in the post season.

Sharks showed a lot of grit yesterday. The first goal by Sutter for Carolina did not even have a chance to be celebrated before the Sharks found the back of the net. Carolina looks lost at this point. Alas, alas. :(

[Ahbroody]

Yeah I saw that but didnt want to say anything. They do look a little rough right now. Given the pieces are still there and they made a deep run last year I believe it will come back around. The old saying you cant keep a good dog down.

[Mr B]

They lost to Nabby and the Sharks also.
The Sharks have been playing well finally. Looks like maybe things are finally starting to click. Heatley is doing exactly what they brought him in to do. Marleau is having a typical Pattie season, Super solid. Hoping with the preasure on Heatley in the playoffs maybe he will do well this year in the post season.


Awesome to see the Defense steppin up. 3 goals and like 11+ points from the D :tu

[icehog3]

Joe, it seems that every time the Hurricanes make it deep into the playoffs, they miss the playoffs the following season. Is there any discussion of this in the Carolina media?

Sorry for your pain...I had about 15 years of it without a break with the Hawks.

[Ahbroody]

Man the Sharks are bad news for other teams stars. First Kovalchuck gets hurt in a game against them, now one of the Stall in Carolina.

[SmokeyJoe]

Joe, it seems that every time the Hurricanes make it deep into the playoffs, they miss the playoffs the following season. Is there any discussion of this in the Carolina media? ...

TONS of discussion... just no answers!
Everybody has the attitude, "What the heck is going on?!"

Chuck Kaiton, long-time radio broadcaster (goes back through the Whaler's days) said he has not seen anything like this with this franchise since 1982. All the peices are there... looks good on paper... deep run into last year's playoffs... and just stinkin' up the ice.

Lots of pride and veteran presence on the ice - but it sure is not showing. 'Canes fans are trying not to panic, but 13 points back from first on the Southeast this early in the season is scary.

:confused:

[icehog3]

TONS of discussion... just no answers!
Everybody has the attitude, "What the heck is going on?!"

Chuck Kaiton, long-time radio broadcaster (goes back through the Whaler's days) said he has not seen anything like this with this franchise since 1982. All the peices are there... looks good on paper... deep run into last year's playoffs... and just stinkin' up the ice.

Lots of pride and veteran presence on the ice - but it sure is not showing. 'Canes fans are trying not to panic, but 13 points back from first on the Southeast this early in the season is scary.

:confused:

Plus now I heard Staal is injured? That can't help, Joe. :hn

[Ahbroody]

Yotes lost to the Kings tonight but in their defense Labarbiedoll was in the net and let in some bad goals as well as a little poor puck handling.

Anyone noticed the Islanders are moving up the standings? Watched the highlights of tonights game and they got the win, but in part do to lucky bounces. I love how Roloson is still drawing interfernece calls when his ass leaves the crease. Thought they stopped giving away those freebies.

[Azpostal]

Wow I don't know what the heck happened in the 3rd last night!

[icehog3]

Wow I don't know what the heck happened in the 3rd last night!

Drew Doughty happened...kid is a helluva defenseman.

[SmokeyJoe]

Plus now I heard Staal is injured? That can't help, Joe. :hn

Yep... out at least three games... maybe more.

Gonna make the comeback later this season even more spectacular! :rolleyes:

[icehog3]

Yep... out at least three games... maybe more.

Gonna make the comeback later this season even more spectacular! :rolleyes:

I hope it happens for them, Joe. :tu

[icehog3]

With the Winter Classic set for Boston's Fenway Park on Jan. 1 (the Bruins against the Flyers), The Boston Globe reports the ice is being made available starting Dec. 18 for corporate events or pickup games.

All it will cost to play in the shadow of the Green Monster is $7,500 to $10,000. That's per hour.

[Ahbroody]

Denise Leary is going to do it. I will bet you right now he does it.

[GreekGodX]

With the Winter Classic set for Boston's Fenway Park on Jan. 1 (the Bruins against the Flyers), The Boston Globe reports the ice is being made available starting Dec. 18 for corporate events or pickup games.

All it will cost to play in the shadow of the Green Monster is $7,500 to $10,000. That's per hour.

Winter ice hockey herf? I'll pickup for the first minute :r

[icehog3]

Denise Leary is going to do it. I will bet you right now he does it.

No doubt about it. If I had his money, I would too. :)

Winter ice hockey herf? I'll pickup for the first minute :r

OK, I have the last 45 seconds. ;)

[Ahbroody]

I'll just sneak on and mooch your ice time

[icehog3]

I'll just sneak on and mooch your ice time

What out for Christos' and my patented move, the flying elbow sammich. ;)

[GreekGodX]

I'll just sneak on and mooch your ice time

What out for Christos' and my patented move, the flying elbow sammich. ;)

Mike would have no idea what hit him :)

[Ahbroody]

Hell no I still have my hard cap Jofa Elbows that got banned after Mclaren rearanged Saku Koivu's face in the playoffs back in the day. I love them. they work great. Im short I am ducking and low bridging Tom FTW. :r

[Ahbroody]

Side note.
If anyone knows anyone looking for a CCM Pro girdle, the 08 model in a medium. I am looking to move mine. Only wore it once at pickup. Just didnt fit right and went back to my Tackla pants. Trying to scrounge up some money for the wife and my anniversary on dec 1st. looking for like 50.00 It honestly looks brand new

[icehog3]

Side note.
If anyone knows anyone looking for a CCM Pro girdle, the 08 model in a medium. I am looking to move mine. Only wore it once at pickup. Just didnt fit right and went back to my Tackla pants. Trying to scrounge up some money for the wife and my anniversary on dec 1st. looking for like 50.00 It honestly looks brand new

I wish I could fit into it, Mike, I love the CCMs.

[E.J.]

Go AVS! Time to get back on track against the 'Yotes...

[icehog3]

Go AVS! Time to get back on track against the 'Yotes...

Back on track? They're first in the NHL, what more do ya want? :r

[Ahbroody]

The Sharks pick up their 6th straight win.
Nice to see the boys comming together. This will be a great game aginst the Pens this Saturday. Great to see where they stand against last years champs.

[E.J.]

Back on track? They're first in the NHL, what more do ya want? :r

Yea....guess that could come across the wrong way....;)

After 2 losses, time to get some points..... Budaj is playing well. Doing well on both sides on the PP.... Getting another chance right now....

GO AVS!

[icehog3]

Yea....guess that could come across the wrong way....;)

After 2 losses, time to get some points..... Budaj is playing well. Doing well on both sides on the PP.... Getting another chance right now....

GO AVS!

I only root for the Avs when:

A). Craig is playing

and

B). They are not playing the Blackhawks.

Friday should be a great game, Craig should be pumped to play the Hawks, and hopefully the Hawks will have Johnny Toews back in the line-up.

[Ahbroody]

Looks like the Sharks lost Blake tonight. He fell oddly into the boards seemingly untouched and didnt get up to quick then skated off in serious pain not to return.

[icehog3]

Looks like the Sharks lost Blake tonight. He fell oddly into the boards seemingly untouched and didnt get up to quick then skated off in serious pain not to return.

No details on Blake's injury yet on ESPN.com.

[Prefy]

Not NHL related but Hockey:

What do you guy think of this hit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPj-kCp1rGI). Alt Angles here
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1a12G5xWYE&feature=related)
Dirty, Clean, Questionable?

Make a response to what you think before you look up any other information.

[WyGuy]

To me it looks like a clean hit. Looks like it was just terrible timing when the D goes to turn and pass the puck. Sucks to see someone get such a serious injury though.

[icehog3]

Didn't look blatently dirty to me...but the escalating head injuries this season have been very disturbing.

[Prefy]

From what I have seen I would have to agree with both of you. But apparently the referees and the commissioner of the league David Branch didn't agree.

Michael Liambas the guy who threw the hit was suspended for the season. Which I think is pretty harsh. They keep using the excuses that Liambas is an Overager who throughout his career was always a "tough guy" and Fanelli is inexperienced and just 16.

I do pray for Ben Fanelli as he is in Hospital in severe condition with skull and facial fractures.

All in All interesting situation I never want to see someone get hurt but there is also the general rule that you need to keep your head up when you're on the ice.

http://www.tsn.ca/chl/story/?id=297187

[icehog3]

Harsh punishment indeed. :2

[Ahbroody]

Sorry Tom I am going to disagree and I will explain why.

When you slow it down he did appear to get his elbow on his head. That said hits that look similar to this occur almot every night in the NHL and no one gets hurt. The reason being the guy hitting doesnt bring the elbow and the guy taking knows how to absorb the hit.

A little bit of research and thinking shows why the league did this. I think part of the suspension may be the guy has a history of questionable hits. He is basically a fighter enforcer and the jrs remember are trying to limit this after the past few years and kids hitting heads on ice etc.
This hit was not the only one, just one I thought demonstrated what he does. He had nothing but bad intentions here and charged the guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Qo2B7imkI&feature=related

Hes an overager. From what I understand he was 20 at the start of the season but may be 21 now. Basically to me it appears the league has decided the guy isnt going to add anything to the league isnt going to make the show and will likely spend the year blowing up 16 and 17 year olds trying to impress a club wanting a potential tough guy. He almost killed this kid and given his style of hitting he may have ended up killing a 16 year old by the end of the year. The league is basically saying okay badass time to go play in the AHL or ECHL and go pull this.

Arent the majors looking into not allowing the 16 and some 17s not playing majors because of this type of stuff?

Its not accurate or fair to ask to look at this one hit and base your decission saying its wrong or harsh on the one hit. Just as in the NHL. Repeat offenders are treated much more harshly when they have a history as opposed to the clean player who screws up once. Say I dont know someone like Chris Simon? This guy has an extensive history of bad hits and fighting. These are two things the majors want gone last I heard as they are trying to protect kids. This guy is a men amoung boys and he almost killed one. That is why he is gone.

[icehog3]

You make excellent points, Mike. I have neither researched it nor slowed it down the way you did. I respect your opinion, and therefore accept your argument.

[Ahbroody]

Focking Sharks lost in a shot out to the evil empire. Nabby played well and had a little luck. Want to have a stick so bad right now but cant shake this chest cold.

[Azpostal]

Yes!!!! Finally another win for the Yotes!!!

[GreekGodX]

Focking Sharks lost in a shot out to the evil empire. Nabby played well and had a little luck. Want to have a stick so bad right now but cant shake this chest cold.

VICTORY!!!! :banger 3 straight for the Wings. Ozzie looks to be getting it together (but I'm sure I just jinxed him lol). Zetterburg's SO goal was very nice.

Na-Bak-Ov, Na-Bak-Ov, Na-Bok-Ov :D

[kugie]

Oh Bruins Oh Bruins where has the Scoring gone?
I think two goals in the last 4 games??
I guess one good thing is they are not giving up alot 5 in the last 4

[WyGuy]

Sorry Tom I am going to disagree and I will explain why.

When you slow it down he did appear to get his elbow on his head. That said hits that look similar to this occur almot every night in the NHL and no one gets hurt. The reason being the guy hitting doesnt bring the elbow and the guy taking knows how to absorb the hit.

A little bit of research and thinking shows why the league did this. I think part of the suspension may be the guy has a history of questionable hits. He is basically a fighter enforcer and the jrs remember are trying to limit this after the past few years and kids hitting heads on ice etc.
This hit was not the only one, just one I thought demonstrated what he does. He had nothing but bad intentions here and charged the guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Qo2B7imkI&feature=related

Hes an overager. From what I understand he was 20 at the start of the season but may be 21 now. Basically to me it appears the league has decided the guy isnt going to add anything to the league isnt going to make the show and will likely spend the year blowing up 16 and 17 year olds trying to impress a club wanting a potential tough guy. He almost killed this kid and given his style of hitting he may have ended up killing a 16 year old by the end of the year. The league is basically saying okay badass time to go play in the AHL or ECHL and go pull this.

Arent the majors looking into not allowing the 16 and some 17s not playing majors because of this type of stuff?

Its not accurate or fair to ask to look at this one hit and base your decission saying its wrong or harsh on the one hit. Just as in the NHL. Repeat offenders are treated much more harshly when they have a history as opposed to the clean player who screws up once. Say I dont know someone like Chris Simon? This guy has an extensive history of bad hits and fighting. These are two things the majors want gone last I heard as they are trying to protect kids. This guy is a men amoung boys and he almost killed one. That is why he is gone.

Going to have to disagree with the elbow to the head. To me it appears to be a shoulder to shoulder, clean hit. I re-watched the video multiple times now trying to see it, but it still looks clean to me.

Here's the OHL's official statement, their calling it a boarding penalty.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/OHL-suspends-Liambas-for-season-after-brutal-hit?urn=nhl,200172

I do think your right though, seems they have had enough of this guy and want him gone. Wish Fanelli the best of luck and speedy recovery.

[Ahbroody]

Going to have to disagree with the elbow to the head. To me it appears to be a shoulder to shoulder, clean hit. I re-watched the video multiple times now trying to see it, but it still looks clean to me.

Here's the OHL's official statement, their calling it a boarding penalty.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/OHL-suspends-Liambas-for-season-after-brutal-hit?urn=nhl,200172

I do think your right though, seems they have had enough of this guy and want him gone. Wish Fanelli the best of luck and speedy recovery.

Watched the video in the link you gave. 39 second freeze you see this.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/ahbroody/elbow.jpg
That is not shoulder to shoulder brother. His elbow is right on his head. Now clearly at the speed its hard to pick up, but it is there to me. Hope this helps you see it. He clearly finishes with the elbow. He came in and drove the elbow, he didnt lead with the elbow, but at that speed finishing with it is I guess harder to pick up

[WyGuy]

Here's a view from the other side. To me that basically looks shoulder to shoulder, but I can see where your coming from.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/mike2212/liambus.jpg

[Ahbroody]

Lol I guess we are going to dance in circles. You are showing the start of the contact. I already said in my reply to you that he didnt lead with the elbow I said he finished with it. Look at his body positioning on your pic. Thats the begining of the contact where they are side by side as he hits and drives through Fanelli the elbow finishes on the side of his head which is the pic I am showing. If you look at my pic he is no longer side by side as in yours.

Any way you look at it the kid ended up with a fractured orbital bone which usually occurs when someone gets the Shiva to the face. Regardless of that I think the league made the right call. If you youtube this guy its a collage of suspect hits and fights. GOOOOOOOOOOOOON!! He is a great fighter though, in one fight he gave up almost a foot and like over 50lbs and still broke the dudes nose. He just doesnt have much business playing in a development league with 16 and 17 year olds to me.

[WyGuy]

Alright, one more lap around the old circle, lol.

Here's the way I see this, but my interpretation of the incident may be wrong.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/mike2212/liambus1.jpg
I agree with the fact that he's a goon and that he shouldn't be playing against most teenagers who are still developing.

[Ahbroody]

Look at your first pic. At the start of the hit his helmet has already come off his head and is now above where his head is. You can see his head and hair and everything in your pic. Now watch the video and notice the helmet lands after he does as its floating in thr air during the hit and fall. You are going to need to place that head lower then the helmet and remember that the head is a large area then that little circle you drew. You cannot fit the elbow and head in the area below the helmet without the elbow being on his head. The elbow is on the head man. I guess we should stop as apparently you think its a clean hit and I cant show it anymore clearly then the photos that his elbow is on the head.

[E.J.]

Looking forward to the Avs vs 'Hawks game in a few hours.... GO AVS!

[icehog3]

Looking forward to the Avs vs 'Hawks game in a few hours.... GO AVS!

Me too....It will feel weird rooting against Craig...but GO HAWKS!

[E.J.]

Me too....It will feel weird rooting against Craig...but GO HAWKS!

Guess we can expect another extended shootout next week....

[icehog3]

Guess we can expect another extended shootout next week....

That was a lot of fun, though I have no clue why Byfuglien thought he could beat Craig with a slapshot. Watched the shootout with Craig's brother, so at least HE was happy. :r

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

That was a lot of fun, though I have no clue why Byfuglien thought he could beat Craig with a slapshot. Watched the shootout with Craig's brother, so at least HE was happy. :r

He broke his stick:r

[icehog3]

He broke his stick:r

He broke Anderson's stick?

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

He broke Anderson's stick?

Byfuglien broke his own stick, atleast it looked that way.

[icehog3]

Byfuglien broke his own stick, atleast it looked that way.

Dufus! :r

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Anderson really impressed me last night, Niemi also had some great saves as well.

[Ahbroody]

sharks plying the pens tonight. gonna listen at work. hopefully I can watch some in the car :)

[icehog3]

Carolina goaltender Cam Ward was helped off the ice in the first period of the Hurricanes' game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.

Ward knelt for a couple of minutes on the ice before he was attended to by team trainers. As he was being helped off, drops of blood hit the ice.

Ward stretched to make a save while the Blue Jackets' Rick Nash was skating through the crease at the 7:35 mark. It appeared Nash might have nicked Ward in the groin area with a skate.

Michael Leighton replaced Ward in goal.

When it rains, it pours, Joe. :(

[SmokeyJoe]

When it rains, it pours, Joe. :(

No kidding, bro... starting to think we should prepare for locusts and plague. :D

Cam Ward is a great goalie, and a quality person. Hoping he will be OK. Heard on the radio broadcast that they were keeping him in the hospital overnight... was hoping they would get a couple of stitches and release him. I will be listening intently for his condition.

[icehog3]

No kidding, bro... starting to think we should prepare for locusts and plague. :D

Cam Ward is a great goalie, and a quality person. Hoping he will be OK. Heard on the radio broadcast that they were keeping him in the hospital overnight... was hoping they would get a couple of stitches and release him. I will be listening intently for his condition.

Please let us know if you get any local updates before ESPM.com puts one up, Joe. Hope he will be back soon.

[Ahbroody]

Man Joe that is horrible and scary. Hope he is alright.

Watching the wings and leafs in the car. Someone forgot to tell the Leafs they were supposed to get rolled. Looks like the wings up and down season will continue. Bad goal tending again tonight

oOOOO crap Rangers at Calgary. Hey Phenuf how you like my sloppy seconds! Come on fight

[smokeyandthebandit05]

Devils still kickin ass and takin names. Beat Ottowa 3-2

[Ahbroody]

Sharks stomping on the pens.

[icehog3]

Sharks stomping on the pens.

Big time.

[SilverFox]

Kipper put on a show tonight.

Big hit on Drury from Glencross, I like my team but this one might have been beyond necessary.

Whats with the super pest...............he was invisible tonight, not that I give a damn about Avery but a pilon would have been more effective.

Update on Ward on HNIC was that he will be released in the morning that the stay over was precautionary.

[icehog3]

I just happened to turn on XM radio right after the Drury hit but didn't get any details...what happened Shawn?

[SilverFox]

I just happened to turn on XM radio right after the Drury hit but didn't get any details...what happened Shawn?

Looked like incidental contact right at the blue line, but Torts was furious. Even on the replays I didn't see it as intent but he did catch him in the head with the shoulder. Drury is concussed which is bad for him as I believe he has had three or for already.

[icehog3]

It's like an epidemic this season, so many more than in past years...and almost all of them are coming on clean (legal ) hits.

[SilverFox]

It's like an epidemic this season, so many more than in past years...and almost all of them are coming on clean (legal ) hits.

I am typically not a fan of European hockey..........but maybe they have it right. A shot to the head (intentional or not) is a penalty.

Dunno, seems there is a ton of injuries this year to a lot of top notch players.

On that happy note, the Flames won..........its late.........sleep time.

Night all.

[icehog3]

Night Shawn. :ih

[Ahbroody]

It's like an epidemic this season, so many more than in past years...and almost all of them are coming on clean (legal ) hits.

I am typically not a fan of European hockey..........but maybe they have it right. A shot to the head (intentional or not) is a penalty.

Dunno, seems there is a ton of injuries this year to a lot of top notch players.

On that happy note, the Flames won..........its late.........sleep time.

Night all.
Why do you guys post these comments you know you are going to get me started.

The report the other day on the NHL channel was currently just over 20% of nhl teams starting rosters are injured. Many of these are comming from big hits. Years ago a lot of these hits would be charging. Now a days guys are getting a 30 foot running start on these hits. You guys know my stance on it. I just dont like head hits. They are becoming way to common. I LOVE I mean LOVE, a monster hip check and just a clean shoulder to body suck the air out hit. You know the old school open ice hits that left your mouth wide open? Its a lost art these days. The guys know how to hit the head and more and more guys are getting more and more injuries. You cant argue they dont and arent when you look at the stats. Head injuries are way up. Part of the problem is the rule changes. One of the new ones needs to be removed. They either need to
1) allow some hooking again to slow players down
2) reactivate the two line pass rule
3) getting ride of that STUPID ASS Instigator Rule on fighting so teams can bring in enforecers to whoop some ass when people run guys (not a huge fan of this and dont think it will really work anyway, just hate the instigator rule)
4) Outlaw headshots all together if they want to keep the rules.

Some great players have had carrers ended from headshots like Lindros and isnt tim connelly got injury issues from them? There are others also. I think its a bad sign of the current game and the lack of respect players are showing for each other. Some(mainly old schoolers) are saying bring back the enforcers/goons to teach respect, but that could result in a whole new group of issues. Either bring back a little hooking and grabbing or outlaw headshots. I guess they will just wait till something happens like the jr kid in the nhl where someone ends up a vegetable or dead.