Never had Ashton VSG or ESG

jerseystepup · 01-24-2010, 03:51 PM

I've never had an ashton VSG or ESG... My local B&M regularly stocks the VSG and occasionaly gets boxes of the ESG in... but everytime i go in my money ends up going towards something else... i here alot of talk about these lately... what am i missing?

RightAJ · 01-24-2010, 03:55 PM

IMO? You're missing alot! These are one of the staples in high end NCs, and are comprable in quality to Padron Annis and Opus. They are strong smokes that are consistantly good. If you can find some with age, even better!

aj

Smokin Gator · 01-24-2010, 03:58 PM

I like the VSG and not so much the ESG. They both, typically, have great construction and burn. Both are a little one dimensional. I have had way more of the VSGs and you just know what you will get. A quality smoke at a decent price.

jerseystepup · 01-24-2010, 04:11 PM

These are made by fuente correct? As im slowly loosing taste for my NC's and gaining more repect for Cuban tobacco... my fuentes i still love... my opus, my anejo, and most of all my sungrowns.. Im thinking some VSG's may be just what i need.

JJG · 01-24-2010, 04:14 PM

I finally tried a VSG not too long ago and I wasn't that impressed. I expected it to taste more like a Fuente. They're not bad, just a little boring. I'd buy a Don Carlos or Opus instead.

DoctaJ · 01-24-2010, 04:37 PM

I have never had an ESG either...never could pull the trigger considering the price point.

As for the VSG, I had my 1st one last year. All I can say is, it is well worth the try

. Amazing smoke with some good complexity.

papajohn67 · 01-24-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

I like the VSG and not so much the ESG. They both, typically, have great construction and burn. Both are a little one dimensional. I have had way more of the VSGs and you just know what you will get. A quality smoke at a decent price.

on the ESG. Was a real disappointment.

bobarian · 01-24-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by papajohn67

on the ESG. Was a real disappointment.

The VSG is a good smoke. Some nice skinny vitolas as well. ESG? Meh.

01-24-2010, 05:52 PM

First time I tried a VSG earlier in my cigar hobby I hated it. I recently revisited one and absolutely loved it. I enjoyed the ESG very very much. If you like Opus then you'll likely enjoy the ESG. The ESG was much like the Opus except it seemed richer. This makes sense considering it uses a sun grown version of the Opus wrapper.

SNKBYT · 01-24-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Smokin Gator

I like the VSG and not so much the ESG. They both, typically, have great construction and burn. Both are a little one dimensional. I have had way more of the VSGs and you just know what you will get. A quality smoke at a decent price.

agree

01-24-2010, 06:19 PM

I am a huge fan of the ESG but the VSG is a better choice for most when you factor in price. I heard the VSGs get better with some age on them. Definitely try a VSG, you might like it a lot.

troutbreath · 01-24-2010, 06:25 PM

Love the VSG. Can't get enough. But, have never tried the ESG. Very pretty band.

kelmac07 · 01-24-2010, 06:31 PM

VSG is the shiznit!!

quantim0 · 01-24-2010, 09:11 PM

I had a VSG a few weeks back and really enjoyed it.

The local b&m owner told me you need to smoke the ESG very slowly and with no distractions. Apparently he didn't do that for the first one he got and told the Ashton rep that it was not great and the rep gave him another and told him to smoke it slow. He said the complexity is hard to pick up if you aren't giving it your full attention, but if you put the work it, it's a fantastic stick.

01-24-2010, 09:18 PM

ashton "proper" sucks, across the board. spend your money on san cristobal. sorry rex, you're a great guy!

RichardW · 01-24-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by papajohn67

on the ESG. Was a real disappointment.

The ESGs are way more money than what they are worth. The VSGs, however, are a well made, complex cigar. Not cheap, but worth trying a few.

eber · 01-24-2010, 10:26 PM

my limited experience with the VSG is that they are good cigars with great construction but IMHO not worth the price tag, I found them a little one dimensional but an enjoyable smoke none the less. That being said I have not been fond of the fuentes that I have smoked including different hemingways nat and mad, opus and a queen B SG. I just picked up an Anejo 50 maduro that I am letting rest. fingers crossed. just my

01-24-2010, 10:44 PM

About 6 years ago, the VSG was nothing but pure power and spice...very full-bodied. Honestly, today, I would invest my money elsewhere...the VSG still has a good flavor, great construction, and beautiful burn...but nowhere near the strength and spice of years past....I miss the really good VSGs...

Goldie · 01-24-2010, 11:26 PM

I prefer any of the VSG's over the ESG's. I only had one of the ESG's so maybe I just had a bad one. but that's just my opinion.

Kreth · 01-24-2010, 11:33 PM

I picked up a VSG Illusion last spring when Taboo had a sale on premium singles. It was pretty tasty. A bit pricy for my budget, but I'd grab another for a treat.
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01-24-2010, 03:51 PM	#1
jerseystepup L-I-V-I-N Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Posts: 774 Trading: (9)	Never had Ashton VSG or ESG I've never had an ashton VSG or ESG... My local B&M regularly stocks the VSG and occasionaly gets boxes of the ESG in... but everytime i go in my money ends up going towards something else... i here alot of talk about these lately... what am i missing?

01-24-2010, 03:55 PM	#2
RightAJ Here Franky Franky Join Date: Oct 2009 First Name: aj Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 915 Trading: (3)	Re: Never had IMO? You're missing alot! These are one of the staples in high end NCs, and are comprable in quality to Padron Annis and Opus. They are strong smokes that are consistantly good. If you can find some with age, even better! aj __________________ My Blog-> ajstogies.blogspot.com Beer Blog->thehopscribe.blogspot.com

01-24-2010, 03:58 PM	#3
Smokin Gator Just plain insane! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Swamp Posts: 6,237 Trading: (106)	Re: Never had I like the VSG and not so much the ESG. They both, typically, have great construction and burn. Both are a little one dimensional. I have had way more of the VSGs and you just know what you will get. A quality smoke at a decent price. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

01-24-2010, 04:11 PM	#4
jerseystepup L-I-V-I-N Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Posts: 774 Trading: (9)	Re: Never had These are made by fuente correct? As im slowly loosing taste for my NC's and gaining more repect for Cuban tobacco... my fuentes i still love... my opus, my anejo, and most of all my sungrowns.. Im thinking some VSG's may be just what i need.

01-24-2010, 04:14 PM	#5
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Never had I finally tried a VSG not too long ago and I wasn't that impressed. I expected it to taste more like a Fuente. They're not bad, just a little boring. I'd buy a Don Carlos or Opus instead.

01-24-2010, 04:37 PM	#6
DoctaJ Still Watching My Back Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 135 Trading: (5)	Re: Never had I have never had an ESG either...never could pull the trigger considering the price point. As for the VSG, I had my 1st one last year. All I can say is, it is well worth the try . Amazing smoke with some good complexity.

01-24-2010, 05:52 PM	#9
mariogolbee Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG First time I tried a VSG earlier in my cigar hobby I hated it. I recently revisited one and absolutely loved it. I enjoyed the ESG very very much. If you like Opus then you'll likely enjoy the ESG. The ESG was much like the Opus except it seemed richer. This makes sense considering it uses a sun grown version of the Opus wrapper.

01-24-2010, 06:19 PM	#11
darkninja67 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG I am a huge fan of the ESG but the VSG is a better choice for most when you factor in price. I heard the VSGs get better with some age on them. Definitely try a VSG, you might like it a lot.

01-24-2010, 06:25 PM	#12
troutbreath Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: The Dash, NC Posts: 706 Trading: (0)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG Love the VSG. Can't get enough. But, have never tried the ESG. Very pretty band.

01-24-2010, 06:31 PM	#13
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG VSG is the shiznit!! __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

01-24-2010, 09:11 PM	#14
quantim0 Feeling at Home Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Andrew Location: Palm Bay, Fl Posts: 528 Trading: (20)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG I had a VSG a few weeks back and really enjoyed it. The local b&m owner told me you need to smoke the ESG very slowly and with no distractions. Apparently he didn't do that for the first one he got and told the Ashton rep that it was not great and the rep gave him another and told him to smoke it slow. He said the complexity is hard to pick up if you aren't giving it your full attention, but if you put the work it, it's a fantastic stick. __________________ All animals are equal, but some are more equal then others. -George Orwell

01-24-2010, 09:18 PM	#15
Robert Mabona Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG ashton "proper" sucks, across the board. spend your money on san cristobal. sorry rex, you're a great guy!

01-24-2010, 10:26 PM	#17
eber Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Erik Posts: 1,229 Trading: (7)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG my limited experience with the VSG is that they are good cigars with great construction but IMHO not worth the price tag, I found them a little one dimensional but an enjoyable smoke none the less. That being said I have not been fond of the fuentes that I have smoked including different hemingways nat and mad, opus and a queen B SG. I just picked up an Anejo 50 maduro that I am letting rest. fingers crossed. just my

01-24-2010, 10:44 PM	#18
ScottishSmoker Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG About 6 years ago, the VSG was nothing but pure power and spice...very full-bodied. Honestly, today, I would invest my money elsewhere...the VSG still has a good flavor, great construction, and beautiful burn...but nowhere near the strength and spice of years past....I miss the really good VSGs...

01-24-2010, 11:26 PM	#19
Goldie Bring the pain! Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Drew Location: Ohio Posts: 808 Trading: (13)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG I prefer any of the VSG's over the ESG's. I only had one of the ESG's so maybe I just had a bad one. but that's just my opinion. __________________ Come in here dear boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go far - Pink Floyd I like my draw, like I like my women, a little loose - Goldie

01-24-2010, 11:33 PM	#20
Kreth Ronin smoker Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Oneonta, NY Posts: 3,620 Trading: (14)	Re: Never had Ashton VSG or ESG I picked up a VSG Illusion last spring when Taboo had a sale on premium singles. It was pretty tasty. A bit pricy for my budget, but I'd grab another for a treat. Posted via Mobile Device