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Old 05-27-2010, 01:49 PM   #1
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I would suggest a still functioning refrigerator and this... http://www.pexsupply.com/Johnson-Con...-120-240v-SPDT

Also, whatever beads or active Rh control you decide on. Simple and efficient.
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Old 05-27-2010, 01:58 PM   #2
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I would suggest a still functioning refrigerator and this... http://www.pexsupply.com/Johnson-Con...-120-240v-SPDT
My only problem with refrigerators is they always come with a freezer attached. I was looking for the simpler 1-piece design. Unless you get one from a restaurant supply type place, but in that case you are getting into the price range of an Aristocrat or other pre-fab system already. Even used those can go for $1000+. Not the $Free - $100 price tag you can find a used upright freezer for.

I agree on the Johnson control being a good option for the refrigerator route though. I looked into that but since most freezers have the coolant running through tubes connected to the shelves themselves, it's not really an option for me since I'll be ripping all of the existing shelving out. (I know, I look for a simpler solution, and then do something else to over-complicate it. heheh. Story of my life). Anyway, the Johnson control may still come into play depending on the cooling system I end up going with.
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My only problem with refrigerators is they always come with a freezer attached. I was looking for the simpler 1-piece design. Unless you get one from a restaurant supply type place, but in that case you are getting into the price range of an Aristocrat or other pre-fab system already. Even used those can go for $1000+. Not the $Free - $100 price tag you can find a used upright freezer for.
Off topic, but I have that same gripe about the refrigerators used to store food. Why the hell do residential refrigerators always have to incorporate a freezer into the same unit?

They make stand-alone upright freezers without a refrigerator attached at reasonable prices. Why can't they do the same thing with a refrigerator? if I want a stand-alone upright refrigerator, I have to drop $2500+ and get it from a restaurant supply store.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why. I can't be the only person out there that has looked into it. It's a conspiracy!
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I started a fridge project last year....almost complete when I get shelves/trays....but have been storing boxes in there with no problems....I have a Johnson controller which didn't kick on (set to 70) yet do to cool ambient temps...just got an Oasis xl to add some active humi to my Shilia beads....I need to get this finished!

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Old 05-27-2010, 02:29 PM   #5
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Putting thermoelectrics in the fridge would not be cost effective. You would need a lot of them to keep it cool and there are limits on the range they can cool down to. I believe it was a drop of 30 and then they are maxed.
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Putting thermoelectrics in the fridge would not be cost effective. You would need a lot of them to keep it cool and there are limits on the range they can cool down to. I believe it was a drop of 30 and then they are maxed.
Not really looking to freeze or even refrigerate anything. They just need to knock the temp down 10 or 15 degrees from ambient. The warmest temp the outside of the unit will be is in the 80's during the summer probably. Any warmer than that and we shut the windows and turn the AC on. The cooling system will just be there to make sure the internal temp doesn't go above 70.

I'd think if a thermo system can take a 5 Cu.F Vinotemp down to 35 degrees, the same thing can keep a 20 Cu.F freezer at 70 degrees in an 85 degree ambient environment.
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O.K. I was thinking down from 100 for some reason. Ya know, if you can pick a beatup looking cooler that has 2 or 3 thermos in it, pulls them and put in the fridge you should be good them.
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O.K. I was thinking down from 100 for some reason. Ya know, if you can pick a beatup looking cooler that has 2 or 3 thermos in it, pulls them and put in the fridge you should be good them.
No, the outside (of the house) temps spike over 100 during the summer, but inside the house we only let it get into the 80's before we turn the AC on. Didn't think about buying a used fridge as well to scavenge for cooler parts. I'll check that out.

I was just looking into plug & play systems or maybe ordering a 'replacement' cooler from Vinotemp or something. Thanks for the idea.
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