The LGC ping lighter

I'm 2 for 2 Steve but they say if you aren't satisfied you have 3 days to return it to them for a refund or exchange. If you don't do that then you are under the Manufacturers warranty which means the PING probably doesn't factor as a "warranty issue" but who knows as if you pay by credit card you can always dispute the charge and win.

[replicant_argent]

Originally Posted by Cigary

I'm 2 for 2 Steve but they say if you aren't satisfied you have 3 days to return it to them for a refund or exchange. If you don't do that then you are under the Manufacturers warranty which means the PING probably doesn't factor as a "warranty issue" but who knows as if you pay by credit card you can always dispute the charge and win.

wow.. you would dispute a CC charge for an "unsuitable ping"?
BTW.. if you look at these lighters with ping, you would find a phillips screw head and a piece of metal, some experimentation, clipping, tightening or bending may have a positive outcome.

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

wow.. you would dispute a CC charge for an "unsuitable ping"?
BTW.. if you look at these lighters with ping, you would find a phillips screw head and a piece of metal, some experimentation, clipping, tightening or bending may have a positive outcome.

I was telling the poster "if he" wanted to return the item he has 3 days and they will take care of it. I am looking at mine and there is nothing on the bottom of the lighter that has a phillips head screw. There is the small handle that you lift with your fingernail to unscrew the filler head like the ST Dupont and you recharge it very easily...screw the filler back in and wait for a couple of minutes and it lights first time. The handle is used to adjust the flame so as far as clipping, tightening or bending of anything on this item I don't see anything that is going to bind unless someone cross threads the filler back into the lighter.

Anytime I ever disputed a CC charge it was for good reasons and it was never contested.

[replicant_argent]

Originally Posted by replicant_argent

wow.. you would dispute a CC charge for an "unsuitable ping"?
BTW.. if you look at these lighters with ping, you would find a phillips screw head and a piece of metal, some experimentation, clipping, tightening or bending may have a positive outcome.

Originally Posted by Brutus2600

Looked at it a little bit and without really ripping the lighter apart to get to the phillips screw in the cap of the lighter I couldn't really adjust anything.

Looks like you looked in the right spot. However, with the construction process, it may be assembled (cap assembly) first, then attached to the sleeve body, so it might be more of a pain to tweak. The phillips is on the hinge side, and access is occluded by the lighter body when assembled.

Originally Posted by Cigary

I was telling the poster "if he" wanted to return the item he has 3 days and they will take care of it. I am looking at mine and there is nothing on the bottom of the lighter that has a phillips head screw. you aren't eyballing the right spot. There is the small handle that you lift with your fingernail to unscrew the filler head like the ST Dupont and you recharge it very easily...screw the filler back in and wait for a couple of minutes and it lights first time. The handle is used to adjust the flame so as far as clipping, tightening or bending of anything on this item I don't see anything that is going to bind unless someone cross threads the filler back into the lighter.

Anytime I ever disputed a CC charge it was for good reasons and it was never contested.

er... One mans "good reason" is anothers "you did what for a 24 dollar lighter?"

Originally Posted by Cigary

PING probably doesn't factor as a "warranty issue" but who knows as if you pay by credit card you can always dispute the charge and win.

Looks like you would either recommend a CC dispute to someone else or do it yourself for a "ping issue" to me.

[OLS]

Having watched both videos back to back, you are right, the ST is much
more musical. They are in the same range, which is how I determined that
mine was so close. But I watched the same video you did there and for some
reason never put it together the the STD (hehe) has a nice clear musical ring
and my cheap lady lighter has a clink.

I am good with it. You need to sue Cigary or his friend and keep the lighter.

Originally Posted by OLS

I am good with it. You need to sue Cigary or his friend and keep the lighter.

Lol,,,you might even get enough money to buy another $24 lighter.

[OLS]

Yeah, don't feel too bad. We're not accusing you of being petty. haha.
Like I said, I went through a very similar, if not exact sequence of events. Read Cigary's
post, google and Utubed the ping sound of the original, remembered the pitch, ignored the
tone, got in my lighter, heard the same pitch and never even considered the total lack of
sustain. TO ME, and I do not know what the Dupont lighter was made of, it's all in the
metal. You get a nice ringing sustain out of a high grade metal. Knockoffs, you could
certainly expect a total lack of a ring. Maybe Dupont's lighter actually has PRING.
Bling with pring. The knockoffs have ping.

After watching both videos again, I think my knockoff has a little more of a pronounced
ping, but still lacks the resounding ping.

[Giants85]

Originally Posted by Cigary

I was telling the poster "if he" wanted to return the item he has 3 days and they will take care of it. I am looking at mine and there is nothing on the bottom of the lighter that has a phillips head screw. There is the small handle that you lift with your fingernail to unscrew the filler head like the ST Dupont and you recharge it very easily...screw the filler back in and wait for a couple of minutes and it lights first time. The handle is used to adjust the flame so as far as clipping, tightening or bending of anything on this item I don't see anything that is going to bind unless someone cross threads the filler back into the lighter.

Anytime I ever disputed a CC charge it was for good reasons and it was never contested.

I believe the philips head screw that they are referring to would be the one in the cap of the lighter, where the "PING" is actually originating from.

It seems that there is a strip of metal inside the cap or head of the lighter which is actually causing the PING(possibly even some sort of a bell behind it???), some adjustment/modification here could lead to a better PING.

My lighter PINGS if I hit the head, while open, with my finger.

Never seen an ST Dupont in person, is this how they generate their PING as well?

Originally Posted by Giants85

I believe the philips head screw that they are referring to would be the one in the cap of the lighter, where the "PING" is actually originating from.

It seems that there is a strip of metal inside the cap or head of the lighter which is actually causing the PING(possibly even some sort of a bell behind it???), some adjustment/modification here could lead to a better PING.

My lighter PINGS if I hit the head, while open, with my finger.

Never seen an ST Dupont in person, is this how they generate their PING as well?

Nice detective work...will have to "play" around with it.
Incidentally, the "ping" was never supposed to exist; in the 50's, when S. T. Dupont first started making lighters, a mistake was made, and two cogs accidentally ended up generating excess friction. This resulted in an unwanted noise whenever the lighter was opened. The company, striving for perfection, understandably wanted this mistake fixed. However, it didn't take long for the "ping" to work its magic on customers, and needless to say, the company left the mistake in place. The "ping" might be what makes S. T. Dupont lighters distinctive, but it is not what makes them special, what gives them their charm. The lighters are a case of the whole being greater than the sum; each aspects of the lighter, the weight, the "ping," the high quality of materials, the care and precision that goes into the assembly, are all special in their own right. But, when put together these individual parts create a lighter unlike any other.

courtesy of http://blogcritics.org/tastes/articl...an-s-t/page-2/

[ripper]

Cigary whomped me upside the head with a generous gift of this exceedingly nice lighter. It's almost too nice to use.
Just what this old Bart needs - another addition to my addiction. Gary has helped me matriculate from matchbooks to BIC lighters to a shelf of butane lighters. Thanks professor -- and watch for those big brown trucks!