Joe Cigar Selling Seconds?

[naamanf]

I have sent them a customer service email, but I am still waiting for a reply. I also have purchase a fair amount of cigars from them and not had much of a problem until lately. My recent box purchase from CB have been in great shape without any problems. Maybe it's just the quality of RP going way down hill.

As a internet vs. B&M thing that really isn't the issue here. Last time I checked there was local B&M out here in Iraq, so that leaves me no choice but to order from the internetz. There really isn't even a good one back home so all my purchases are over the net there.

I did light one of these smokes up today and can say that it is nothing like the Decades I have smoked in the past. It had a hint of that "Decade" taste but if I had to compare it to another RP cigar I would say it tasted almost exactly like a Indian Tabac Super Fuerte. Definitely not worth the price even at the discounted JC price. Really sad if this is the fault of RP.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by naamanf

I did light one of these smokes up today and can say that it is nothing like the Decades I have smoked in the past. It had a hint of that "Decade" taste but if I had to compare it to another RP cigar I would say it tasted almost exactly like a Indian Tabac Super Fuerte. Definitely not worth the price even at the discounted JC price. Really sad if this is the fault of RP.

Can't see how something like that could be anything but due to something at Rocky's end. Something like that is simply beyond what CI/Cbid/Cigar.com could have had influence over.

Wouldn't be the first time an RP blend has changed once the original tobacco stocks for a cigar were used up and new crops were being used to produce the cigar.

[Superbad]

Originally Posted by T.G

Can't see how something like that could be anything but due to something at Rocky's end. Something like that is simply beyond what CI/Cbid/Cigar.com could have had influence over.

Wouldn't be the first time an RP blend has changed once the original tobacco stocks for a cigar were used up and new crops were being used to produce the cigar.

They had a Diamond Crown event last week at my local B&M. The rep stated that in his opinion the best thing about Fuente Brands is that they are consistent. I have to agree as long as things are consistently good. He estimated that Fuente has about 8 to 9 years worth of tobacco for production stored up. Crazy huh!

I purchased a humidor on CBid, and I was very happy with it.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Superbad

They had a Diamond Crown event last week at my local B&M. The rep stated that in his opinion the best thing about Fuente Brands is that they are consistent. I have to agree as long as things are consistently good. He estimated that Fuente has about 8 to 9 years worth of tobacco for production stored up. Crazy huh!

Meh. I've had inconstant Fuentes, and they were Opus Xs to boot. Pure ammonia bombs, the tobacco used in that release had no age on it.

Unfortunately, most reps are full of ****.

The only people I would believe when they say that they have tobacco stockpiled for X number of years is General Cigar and Padron, and to a lesser extent, Altadis. It's pretty widely known that General won't even create and launch a cigar unless they have 5-7 years of tobacco stored up for it, and that's 5-7 years at their volume numbers, which are probably 5-10-20 times higher than anyone else's volume numbers. Padron's tobacco stockpiles are legendary, so cut that in half for realism or skepticism and it's still a massive amount. Altadis, see General cigar above, they're just not as good at stockpiling as General.

[Superbad]

Originally Posted by T.G

Meh. I've had inconstant Fuentes, and they were Opus Xs to boot. Pure ammonia bombs, the tobacco used in that release had no age on it.

Unfortunately, most reps are full of ****.

The only people I would believe when they say that they have tobacco stockpiled for X number of years is General Cigar and Padron, and to a lesser extent, Altadis. It's pretty widely known that General won't even create and launch a cigar unless they have 5-7 years of tobacco stored up for it, and that's 5-7 years at their volume numbers, which are probably 5-10-20 times higher than anyone else's volume numbers. Padron's tobacco stockpiles are legendary, so cut that in half for realism or skepticism and it's still a massive amount. Altadis, see General cigar above, they're just not as good at stockpiling as General.

I don't trust what most rep's say, but I do agree that I want consistency in a product. I hate getting something that is great in one box, and the next box tastes like it was made somewhere else, with totally different ingredients.
I like Opus, but they have to sit for a year before I touch them. I think it is amazing how much tobacco must be stored up between all the big manufacturers.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Superbad

I don't trust what most rep's say, but I do agree that I want consistency in a product. I hate getting something that is great in one box, and the next box tastes like it was made somewhere else, with totally different ingredients.
I like Opus, but they have to sit for a year before I touch them. I think it is amazing how much tobacco must be stored up between all the big manufacturers.

I'm with you bro. and I would venture to guess that we all want consistancy, be it good or bad, in a line of cigars from any given manufacturer.

[lightning9191]

Originally Posted by naamanf

I have sent them a customer service email, but I am still waiting for a reply.

If you have the opportunity, give them a phone call. It will pry get sorted out a lot quicker.