Tat Drac: Shipping Date

[poriggity]

Originally Posted by Cort

I thought cigars were supposed to be a relaxing hobby

All this Tat drama is crazy. Sorry to everyone who got jerked around by these clowns. How good can the damn cigars be?

I had a friend tell me he smoked a drac today, and thought the Conoju was better. That right there tells me that the hype is way over played.

[Brooks W]

Originally Posted by poriggity

I had a friend tell me he smoked a drac today, and thought the Conoju was better. That right there tells me that the hype is way over played.

Oh, cmon, really? Based on one person?

Based on what **I** know, the Cojonu series is NOT better then the Drac, not by a long shot...

(but I do love a good Cojonu 2003

~ brooks

[poriggity]

Originally Posted by Brooks W

Oh, cmon, really? Based on one person?

Based on what **I** know, the Cojonu series is NOT better then the Drac, not by a long shot...

(but I do love a good Cojonu 2003

~ brooks

Yes, really. Its a guy I trust, and know his tastes. If he says the Cojonu is better than the drac, than I am pretty positive that's how I'll feel, as we have the same tastes in cigars. As far as "having fun" with the hunt for drac's and boris, thats great. If you guys can have fun with it, go for it. I just can't really agree with the price gouging going on from SOME retailers, and the games going on from SOME retailers. IMHO, the most FAIR way to deal with the Drac/Boris situation is to put them on the shelves or website, and put them up for sale, AT MSRP plus taxes, and sell them till they are gone. First come first serve. Thats just my opinion, and I am pretty sure it's not the popular one.
Scott

[Brooks W]

Originally Posted by poriggity

Yes, really. Its a guy I trust, and know his tastes. If he says the Cojonu is better than the drac, than I am pretty positive that's how I'll feel, as we have the same tastes in cigars. As far as "having fun" with the hunt for drac's and boris, thats great. If you guys can have fun with it, go for it. I just can't really agree with the price gouging going on from SOME retailers, and the games going on from SOME retailers. IMHO, the most FAIR way to deal with the Drac/Boris situation is to put them on the shelves or website, and put them up for sale, AT MSRP plus taxes, and sell them till they are gone. First come first serve. Thats just my opinion, and I am pretty sure it's not the popular one.
Scott

Have you smoked a Drac yet, and do you plan on trying to get one to try, to see if you feel the same way after you taste it?

Just wondering

~brooks

[poriggity]

Originally Posted by Brooks W

Have you smoked a Drac yet, and do you plan on trying to get one to try, to see if you feel the same way after you taste it?

Just wondering

~brooks

If I stumble upon a shop that has a drac or boris sitting there, untouched and at MSRP, I MIGHT grab it just to smoke one and see what my thoughts are, but I won't be making any special phone calls to try and procure any. You are correct though Brooks, I SHOULD smoke one, and form my own opinion on it.
Scott

Originally Posted by poriggity

Yes, really. Its a guy I trust, and know his tastes. If he says the Cojonu is better than the drac, than I am pretty positive that's how I'll feel, as we have the same tastes in cigars. As far as "having fun" with the hunt for drac's and boris, thats great. If you guys can have fun with it, go for it. I just can't really agree with the price gouging going on from SOME retailers, and the games going on from SOME retailers. IMHO, the most FAIR way to deal with the Drac/Boris situation is to put them on the shelves or website, and put them up for sale, AT MSRP plus taxes, and sell them till they are gone. First come first serve. Thats just my opinion, and I am pretty sure it's not the popular one.
Scott

As many people will attest, you can't judge a cigar based on 1 stick. Especially 1 stick smoked OTT--the only option when smoking a Drac this week. I am certian that your friend did not like the Drac he smoked as well as the Cojonu's he's smoked. But again, judging that one 1 OTT stick that your friend smoked is, in my opinion, not enough to call the Drac release "all hype" or whatever. No offense, just my opinion.

I've had 1 Cojonu '03 and one '06, and though they were good, I felt they weren't worth the coin to me. But again, that's 1 stick. I have 2 more of each I believe, so I'll reserve judgment. I've learned that my palate can't always be trusted, especially during cold season like now.

Oh, and as far as your opinion on the Drac sales ... that's FAR from an unpopular one, actually. Many have said exactly what you have. I have actually "discussed" it with Pete in another forum, and have heard that he's taking a version of one of my ideas to heart for next year's release. Essentially--exactly like this year's with one major addition: a huge extra allotment (666 or 1300 boxes) to be sent to one store, earmarked for phone/internet orders. This will keep the shops happy while also making the collectors/hardcore fans/brand supporters happy as well.

[acarr]

Originally Posted by njstone

As many people will attest, you can't judge a cigar based on 1 stick. Especially 1 stick smoked OTT--the only option when smoking a Drac this week. I am certian that your friend did not like the Drac he smoked as well as the Cojonu's he's smoked. But again, judging that one 1 OTT stick that your friend smoked is, in my opinion, not enough to call the Drac release "all hype" or whatever. No offense, just my opinion.

I've had 1 Cojonu '03 and one '06, and though they were good, I felt they weren't worth the coin to me. But again, that's 1 stick. I have 2 more of each I believe, so I'll reserve judgment. I've learned that my palate can't always be trusted, especially during cold season like now.

Oh, and as far as your opinion on the Drac sales ... that's FAR from an unpopular one, actually. Many have said exactly what you have. I have actually "discussed" it with Pete in another forum, and have heard that he's taking a version of one of my ideas to heart for next year's release. Essentially--exactly like this year's with one major addition: a huge extra allotment (666 or 1300 boxes) to be sent to one store, earmarked for phone/internet orders. This will keep the shops happy while also making the collectors/hardcore fans/brand supporters happy as well.

Now going full circle, will the collectors and hardcore fans want them if there are 2500 boxes of them

Originally Posted by acarr

Now going full circle, will the collectors and hardcore fans want them if there are 2500 boxes of them

heck yea! I want a Drac box just as much as a Frank box, and there are twice as many.

In point of fact, though, what Pete might do is have only a certian number of the collector's coffins (maybe 1300 again) and have most of the boxes shipped to B&Ms be simple 10-count cedar boxes. This makes a LOT of sense to me, since most B&Ms are just braking the boxes up for singles anyway. Send each shop 1 nice collector's box, and the rest plain 10-count boxes.

End result: more sticks than this year, but roughly the same amount of boxes.

[chenvt]

Originally Posted by njstone

heck yea! I want a Drac box just as much as a Frank box, and there are twice as many.

In point of fact, though, what Pete might do is have only a certian number of the collector's coffins (maybe 1300 again) and have most of the boxes shipped to B&Ms be simple 10-count cedar boxes. This makes a LOT of sense to me, since most B&Ms are just braking the boxes up for singles anyway. Send each shop 1 nice collector's box, and the rest plain 10-count boxes.

End result: more sticks than this year, but roughly the same amount of boxes.

that's a hell of an idea, making both sides happy