Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?

[The Poet]

Does this all mean the "fuerte" is thus either misleading or a misnomer?

Frankly, I'm

[T.G]

Originally Posted by The Poet

Does this all mean the "fuerte" is thus either misleading or a misnomer?

Frankly, I'm

What's probably making things confusing is that Joya de Nicaragua is the name of the company, but has sort of been adopted as the name of the cigars too.

Keep in mind that this cigar is the "Fuerte" by Joya de Nicaragua. Fuerte means "strong", but there is no baseline for what "strong" is, it could mean "strong cigar" or "stronger than this other cigar we make" both of which are very subjective.

This is a strong cigar and it also happens to actually be stronger than the "regular" JdN (round band, gold trim). The JdN Antanio, which you might be thinking of, is a different cigar. The JdN Fuerte does use the same Criollo wrapper leaf as the JdNA though.

These are the cigars in the JdN lineup (in no particular order):
The original unnamed cigar from JdN, which has become known as the "JdN", Fuerte, Celebracion, Antanio, Antanio Dark Corojo (not yet available).

There used to be a Serie C, with a Connecticut shade wrapper, but that was discontinued about two years ago.

FWIW, Jonathan wanted to call these "Cheap and Strongs" but I guess someone at CI changed the name to "Fuerte" Sounds fancier (raises pinky)

Hopefully that helps some.

Originally Posted by T.G

What's probably making things confusing is that Joya de Nicaragua is the name of the company, but has sort of been adopted as the name of the cigars too.

Keep in mind that this cigar is the "Fuerte" by Joya de Nicaragua. Fuerte means "strong", but there is no baseline for what "strong" is, it could mean "strong cigar" or "stronger than this other cigar we make" both of which are very subjective.

This is a strong cigar and it also happens to actually be stronger than the "regular" JdN (round band, gold trim). The JdN Antanio, which you might be thinking of, is a different cigar. The JdN Fuerte does use the same Criollo wrapper leaf as the JdNA though.

These are the cigars in the JdN lineup (in no particular order):
The original unnamed cigar from JdN, which has become known as the "JdN", Fuerte, Celebracion, Antanio, Antanio Dark Corojo (not yet available).

There used to be a Serie C, with a Connecticut shade wrapper, but that was discontinued about two years ago.

FWIW, Jonathan wanted to call these "Cheap and Strongs" but I guess someone at CI changed the name to "Fuerte" Sounds fancier (raises pinky)

Hopefully that helps some.

Good info here and now raises my curiosity about them. I am fan of JDN and have smoked the consul for many years and then converted to the Antano. Have been seeing the "fuerte" and was wondering if it was hype or the real thing. Guess I need to get a 5 pak and see for myself.

[stitch]

Lower grade tobac .... A tad on the Harsh side, Decent strong tobbaco flavor
An Antano ...Nope not even close.
But they aint bad for a cheap smoke
BUT ...REMEMBER , This is coming from the old cowpoke who'll smoke a tree branch

Originally Posted by T.G

What's probably making things confusing is that Joya de Nicaragua is the name of the company, but has sort of been adopted as the name of the cigars too.

Keep in mind that this cigar is the "Fuerte" by Joya de Nicaragua. Fuerte means "strong", but there is no baseline for what "strong" is, it could mean "strong cigar" or "stronger than this other cigar we make" both of which are very subjective.

This is a strong cigar and it also happens to actually be stronger than the "regular" JdN (round band, gold trim). The JdN Antanio, which you might be thinking of, is a different cigar. The JdN Fuerte does use the same Criollo wrapper leaf as the JdNA though.

These are the cigars in the JdN lineup (in no particular order):
The original unnamed cigar from JdN, which has become known as the "JdN", Fuerte, Celebracion, Antanio, Antanio Dark Corojo (not yet available).

There used to be a Serie C, with a Connecticut shade wrapper, but that was discontinued about two years ago.

FWIW, Jonathan wanted to call these "Cheap and Strongs" but I guess someone at CI changed the name to "Fuerte" Sounds fancier (raises pinky)

Hopefully that helps some.

Truth be told TG, they have not been discontinued....when I visited the JDN Factory last year at this time I asked about the Serie C and was told it is only being sold to the European market. I saw boxes and boxes of them just waiting to get cello on them so they could be shipped.

I personally liked the Serie C and was disappointed that I could no longer get them!

[T.G]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanLarry

Truth be told TG, they have not been discontinued....when I visited the JDN Factory last year at this time I asked about the Serie C and was told it is only being sold to the European market. I saw boxes and boxes of them just waiting to get cello on them so they could be shipped.

I personally liked the Serie C and was disappointed that I could no longer get them!

Interesting, Jonathan had told me that they were discontinued. Thanks for the info.

[thebiglebowski]

anyone know how these compare to the celebracion series? particularly, the churchill size (in the celebracion)...

Pretty good smoke but I'd rather smoke the Antano at $3.45 a pop.

[bobarian]

Originally Posted by thebiglebowski

anyone know how these compare to the celebracion series? particularly, the churchill size (in the celebracion)...

I have only had the corona size in both blends. The Fuerte will be a bit spicier and stronger than the Celebracion. I really like the Antano, but since the price increase I dont find them as appealing. For $40 a bundle, I think these hold up well in the class. Different from the Nic 3000, but just as good a value.

Originally Posted by T.G

Interesting, Jonathan had told me that they were discontinued. Thanks for the info.

That's why I was there, we were doing the Drew Estate/Cigar Safari Tour. Jonathan sure knows how to put together a great event, I had a blast!

[T.G]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanLarry

That's why I was there, we were doing the Drew Estate/Cigar Safari Tour. Jonathan sure knows how to put together a great event, I had a blast!

Cool. I really want to get down there one of these days (weeks) for that.

[Tio Gato]

I just got two bundles delivered today. I smoked a Consul size this afternoon.

A very rustic looking cigar, lots of veins and bumps on the wrapper. The prelight aroma was fantastic. Scents of black tobacco and raisins.

The first inch was flavorful. Straight forward tobacco flavor with decent strength. Quickly became smooth with lots of chocolate flavors and became soft to the feel. It remained that way to the nub.

This is definitely not an Antano. It is a nice cigar for the price, but it's not a butt kicker. Worth a try at two bucks, but I wouldn't spend a penny more.