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The Poet 10-26-2009 04:35 PM
Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Did you guys see that 1-day e-mail offer for these? I'm not pushing them, or recommending them, I'm just curious - if these are Fuertes, then what the hell are their regular sticks of dynamite supposed to be, Macanoodles? Any thoughts?

acarr 10-26-2009 05:10 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Those are pequito fuerte, these ones are muy fuerte:D Actually if they are stronger, I think I might have to try one or two on an empty stomach!

bobarian 10-26-2009 05:12 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
These are quite good. They are a different blend from the Antano, but use the Antano wrapper. These are a bundle smoke and not to be confused with the as of yet unreleased(to my knowledge) stronger Antano.

Blindjimme 10-26-2009 05:15 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
They're actually pretty tasty, not a$$ kicking strong at all. It's different filler / same wrapper as the Antanos, which I also don't find to be overly strong either. Different folks..



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T.G 10-26-2009 05:16 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZs3s6lGLtc

Ratters 10-26-2009 11:45 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Yep, they are a pretty darned good smoke for the money. Not an Antano, but great for the price. I picked up three bundles, two when CI screwed up their box sale and had them for $30 a bundle. :ss

roughrider 10-27-2009 01:27 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
The few I've smoked had some nice spice to 'em.

sikk50 10-27-2009 01:45 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
I was gifted one (Thanks Ratters!!!) I plan to smoke it today to see if I should order a bundle

The Poet 10-27-2009 02:23 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Does this all mean the "fuerte" is thus either misleading or a misnomer?

Frankly, I'm :confused:

T.G 10-27-2009 03:37 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Poet (Post 619909)
Does this all mean the "fuerte" is thus either misleading or a misnomer?

Frankly, I'm :confused:
What's probably making things confusing is that Joya de Nicaragua is the name of the company, but has sort of been adopted as the name of the cigars too.

Keep in mind that this cigar is the "Fuerte" by Joya de Nicaragua. Fuerte means "strong", but there is no baseline for what "strong" is, it could mean "strong cigar" or "stronger than this other cigar we make" both of which are very subjective.

This is a strong cigar and it also happens to actually be stronger than the "regular" JdN (round band, gold trim). The JdN Antanio, which you might be thinking of, is a different cigar. The JdN Fuerte does use the same Criollo wrapper leaf as the JdNA though.

These are the cigars in the JdN lineup (in no particular order):
The original unnamed cigar from JdN, which has become known as the "JdN", Fuerte, Celebracion, Antanio, Antanio Dark Corojo (not yet available).

There used to be a Serie C, with a Connecticut shade wrapper, but that was discontinued about two years ago.

FWIW, Jonathan wanted to call these "Cheap and Strongs" but I guess someone at CI changed the name to "Fuerte" Sounds fancier (raises pinky)

Hopefully that helps some.

The Poet 10-27-2009 03:47 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
:tu

dannysguitar 10-27-2009 04:08 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Thanks for the info TG! This is why I love CA!

Cigary 10-27-2009 04:18 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G (Post 620028)
What's probably making things confusing is that Joya de Nicaragua is the name of the company, but has sort of been adopted as the name of the cigars too.

Keep in mind that this cigar is the "Fuerte" by Joya de Nicaragua. Fuerte means "strong", but there is no baseline for what "strong" is, it could mean "strong cigar" or "stronger than this other cigar we make" both of which are very subjective.

This is a strong cigar and it also happens to actually be stronger than the "regular" JdN (round band, gold trim). The JdN Antanio, which you might be thinking of, is a different cigar. The JdN Fuerte does use the same Criollo wrapper leaf as the JdNA though.

These are the cigars in the JdN lineup (in no particular order):
The original unnamed cigar from JdN, which has become known as the "JdN", Fuerte, Celebracion, Antanio, Antanio Dark Corojo (not yet available).

There used to be a Serie C, with a Connecticut shade wrapper, but that was discontinued about two years ago.

FWIW, Jonathan wanted to call these "Cheap and Strongs" but I guess someone at CI changed the name to "Fuerte" Sounds fancier (raises pinky)

Hopefully that helps some.
Good info here and now raises my curiosity about them. I am fan of JDN and have smoked the consul for many years and then converted to the Antano. Have been seeing the "fuerte" and was wondering if it was hype or the real thing. Guess I need to get a 5 pak and see for myself.

stitch 10-27-2009 08:08 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Lower grade tobac .... A tad on the Harsh side, Decent strong tobbaco flavor
An Antano ...Nope not even close.
But they aint bad for a cheap smoke
BUT ...REMEMBER , This is coming from the old cowpoke who'll smoke a tree branch :ss

SkinsFanLarry 11-15-2009 09:57 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G (Post 620028)
What's probably making things confusing is that Joya de Nicaragua is the name of the company, but has sort of been adopted as the name of the cigars too.

Keep in mind that this cigar is the "Fuerte" by Joya de Nicaragua. Fuerte means "strong", but there is no baseline for what "strong" is, it could mean "strong cigar" or "stronger than this other cigar we make" both of which are very subjective.

This is a strong cigar and it also happens to actually be stronger than the "regular" JdN (round band, gold trim). The JdN Antanio, which you might be thinking of, is a different cigar. The JdN Fuerte does use the same Criollo wrapper leaf as the JdNA though.

These are the cigars in the JdN lineup (in no particular order):
The original unnamed cigar from JdN, which has become known as the "JdN", Fuerte, Celebracion, Antanio, Antanio Dark Corojo (not yet available).

There used to be a Serie C, with a Connecticut shade wrapper, but that was discontinued about two years ago.

FWIW, Jonathan wanted to call these "Cheap and Strongs" but I guess someone at CI changed the name to "Fuerte" Sounds fancier (raises pinky)

Hopefully that helps some.
Truth be told TG, they have not been discontinued....when I visited the JDN Factory last year at this time I asked about the Serie C and was told it is only being sold to the European market. I saw boxes and boxes of them just waiting to get cello on them so they could be shipped.

I personally liked the Serie C and was disappointed that I could no longer get them!

T.G 11-15-2009 10:21 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsFanLarry (Post 645922)
Truth be told TG, they have not been discontinued....when I visited the JDN Factory last year at this time I asked about the Serie C and was told it is only being sold to the European market. I saw boxes and boxes of them just waiting to get cello on them so they could be shipped.

I personally liked the Serie C and was disappointed that I could no longer get them!
Interesting, Jonathan had told me that they were discontinued. Thanks for the info.

thebiglebowski 11-16-2009 07:33 AM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
anyone know how these compare to the celebracion series? particularly, the churchill size (in the celebracion)...

darkninja67 11-16-2009 08:15 AM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Pretty good smoke but I'd rather smoke the Antano at $3.45 a pop.

bobarian 11-16-2009 12:27 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebiglebowski (Post 646149)
anyone know how these compare to the celebracion series? particularly, the churchill size (in the celebracion)...
I have only had the corona size in both blends. The Fuerte will be a bit spicier and stronger than the Celebracion. I really like the Antano, but since the price increase I dont find them as appealing. For $40 a bundle, I think these hold up well in the class. Different from the Nic 3000, but just as good a value. :2

SkinsFanLarry 11-16-2009 12:59 PM
Re: Joya de Nicaragua Fuerte?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G (Post 645949)
Interesting, Jonathan had told me that they were discontinued. Thanks for the info.
That's why I was there, we were doing the Drew Estate/Cigar Safari Tour. Jonathan sure knows how to put together a great event, I had a blast!


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