Connecticut Wrap's

Scottw · 10-03-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JJG

I have to agree that the wrapper doesn't really add anything to the strength or fullness of flavor. On the other hand, it's hard for me to believe that the green and black are the same blend aside from the wrapper. The greens and reds are just sooo strong and the blacks are incredibly smooth.

I disagree unless you are speaking of this cigar specifically as I have never tried these sticks. The flavor in a cigar comes from the wrapper undoubtedly. Not saying if the binder and filler are **** and the wrapper is good that you will have a great cigar but the wrapper is key in the cigar.

NCRadioMan · 10-03-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottw

I disagree unless you are speaking of this cigar specifically as I have never tried these sticks. The flavor in a cigar comes from the wrapper undoubtedly. Not saying if the binder and filler are **** and the wrapper is good that you will have a great cigar but the wrapper is key in the cigar.

I would disagree. I've smoked the same cigar (robusto) with and without a wrapper and it tasted the same. The blend is where the flavor comes from. Otherwise, you could just throw a bunch of leaves together without a thought and wrap it with a specific wrapper. But if you did that, it wouldn't taste too good.

PV1191 · 10-04-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

The 601 Black is not a mild cigar by any means. The 601's all have the same filler but have a different wrapper.

The palate is freshest in the morning so I tend to smoke my favorite, no matter what the strength.

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

But the only difference is the green and black is the wrapper. The wrapper can't magically make the blend mild.

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I would disagree. I've smoked the same cigar (robusto) with and without a wrapper and it tasted the same. The blend is where the flavor comes from. Otherwise, you could just throw a bunch of leaves together without a thought and wrap it with a specific wrapper. But if you did that, it wouldn't taste too good.

Sooooo....I'm confused............in your opinion does the wrapper make a difference?....or does it all taste like chicken?

10-04-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PV1191

Sooooo....I'm confused............in your opinion does the wrapper make a difference?....or does it all taste like chicken?

i think hes saying the wrapper only matters if its marinated in chicken...other wise all the 601s taste exactly the same...and sees no reason for them to make them in all the wrapper variety...i could be wrong..just a noob guess here....

NCRadioMan · 10-04-2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PV1191

Sooooo....I'm confused............in your opinion does the wrapper make a difference?....or does it all taste like chicken?

Yes, the wrapper can make a slight difference in taste (50rg and under) but not strength. And for the record, I don' think the 601 green isn't that spicy as compared to the corojo Red 601. A little more rich with the oscuro than anything. It's that subjective and taste thing. That's just my opinion after being in the industry for 3 years.

Sorry to interrupt your very informative sandwich/chicken banter.

10-04-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yes, the wrapper can make a slight difference in taste (50rg and under) but not strength. And for the record, I don' think the 601 green isn't that spicy as compared to the corojo Red 601. A little more rich with the oscuro than anything. It's that subjective and taste thing. That's just my opinion after being in the industry for 3 years.

Sorry to interrupt your very informative sandwich/chicken banter.

Ohhhhhhhh three years in "the industry" I bow down to your status and long jevity . I'm just a noob that is suckered by "the industry". If your part of the game you must be more intelligent and advanced than me...just a regular ol everyday stupid consumer

Jbailey · 10-04-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Yes, the wrapper can make a slight difference in taste (50rg and under) but not strength. And for the record, I don' think the 601 green isn't that spicy as compared to the corojo Red 601. A little more rich with the oscuro than anything. It's that subjective and taste thing. That's just my opinion after being in the industry for 3 years.

I do believe taste is subjective. If I had to break down the 601 line from mild to strong it would be Blue, Black, Red, Green. I got a few different 601's that I'm tempted to swap some wrappers around. The RG does have a lot to do when it comes to the wrapper. The San Cristobal line is a great example since it's the same blend across the board except the "Guajiro" which has a different one. So taste and compare some different size San Cristobal's and it might be a surprise.

After working at a cigar shop for a few years and getting to know the regulars really well it's interesting how some people pick up different flavors or gravitate towards certain cigars. I had smokers that either smoked the whole 601 line to just one from the line.

Another one to discuss would be the Padron base line which I believe is the same blend. Comparing the natural to the maduro there is a small difference in flavor.

VirtualSmitty · 10-03-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottw

I disagree unless you are speaking of this cigar specifically as I have never tried these sticks. The flavor in a cigar comes from the wrapper undoubtedly. Not saying if the binder and filler are **** and the wrapper is good that you will have a great cigar but the wrapper is key in the cigar.

Really? How do explain the first gen H2000 leaf then? The wrappers were horrible, burned horrible, but the cigars still tasted pretty good. I'm also curious why you feel one leaf is more flavorful than the several that make up the filler

Scottw · 10-03-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

Really? How do explain the first gen H2000 leaf then? The wrappers were horrible, burned horrible, but the cigars still tasted pretty good. I'm also curious why you feel one leaf is more flavorful than the several that make up the filler

What cigar are you referring to? I haven't had many H2000 Wrappers so I won't try to explain what I don't know much about but read the second part of my post. I am not saying that a good wrapper with a **** binder and filler would be good but to say that no flavor is imparted by the wrapper to me (not a pro mind you) is incorrect. Are you talking about the H2000 used in some Gurkha