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Old 09-15-2009, 09:15 AM   #1
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Here are a couple of Qs that have always played on my mind. Maybe some of you can provide a little insight. Otherwise, perhaps we can all have fun just speculating together.

Since the '60's, the NC industry has made no small business of convincing us all that (some of) their product is just like CC product in every way we can imagine.

Hey- check out this one! It tastes like CC!

Hey- check out this one! It looks like CC!

Hey- check out this one! It has the same name as CC!

Hey- check out this one! It's packaged like CC!


So... this considerable effort not having gone unnoticed by me, down the years, I've spent many of them wondering:

1. Why did it take 'til the 21st century before we saw NCs with Corojo wrappers?

and

2. Why did it take 'til the 21st century before we saw (any significant number of) NCs with triple-caps?

I mean... DUH! Right?

Can anyone shed any light?
I think it has alot to do with the fact that there is such a demand for CC's in the states. As we all know, CC's are our fordidden fruit. If the Non-CC brands can make a cigar appeal to those wanting a CC, it becomes more appealing. I would imagine they also want to honor the tradition and culture of the CC.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:23 AM   #2
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I think it has alot to do with the fact that there is such a demand for CC's in the states. As we all know, CC's are our fordidden fruit. If the Non-CC brands can make a cigar appeal to those wanting a CC, it becomes more appealing. I would imagine they also want to honor the tradition and culture of the CC.
I think you misunderstand my questions, Jaime. I'm not wondering why they do it; I'm wondering why it took them so long to do it.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:32 AM   #3
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I think you misunderstand my questions, Jaime. I'm not wondering why they do it; I'm wondering why it took them so long to do it.
Ahh. Got me there!
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I think you misunderstand my questions, Jaime. I'm not wondering why they do it; I'm wondering why it took them so long to do it.
more competition!


I think the internet has a lot to do with the recent rise in the quality of NCs. It sounds weird (I'm pretty young and don't claim to be an expert) but it seems like in the 90's and prior to that, the industry was dominated by a few large companies. For this reason I believe that these larger companies did not have as much incentive to produce a superior product. They might not be as good as smaller, boutique brands but the majority of B&Ms and smokers were still buying their cigars and thus there was not threat of losing a large percentage of their customer base.

Today, cigar enthusiast have so many resources for cigars and cigar related information that the average smoker is much more knowledgeable and discriminating than in years past. They simply won't settle for the same old JR/Altadis/General cigars because there are so many better choices out there.

I'm only 30 but I've noticed a large shift in what B&Ms carry in the last 10 years. You still see the Altadis type brands but much more floor space is dedicated to smaller independent manufacturers. I remember when I first started shopping for cigars it was hard to find any boutique brands at all. Fuentes were expensive and often sold out. Now, even Fuente, who used to be top dog among discriminating aficionados must be feeling the pressure to improve what they produce or lose smokers to more exciting brands.
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I think the internet has a lot to do with the recent rise in the quality of NCs. It sounds weird (I'm pretty young and don't claim to be an expert) but it seems like in the 90's and prior to that, the industry was dominated by a few large companies. For this reason I believe that these larger companies did not have as much incentive to produce a superior product. They might not be as good as smaller, boutique brands but the majority of B&Ms and smokers were still buying their cigars and thus there was not threat of losing a large percentage of their customer base.

Today, cigar enthusiast have so many resources for cigars and cigar related information that the average smoker is much more knowledgeable and discriminating than in years past. They simply won't settle for the same old JR/Altadis/General cigars because there are so many better choices out there.

I'm only 30 but I've noticed a large shift in what B&Ms carry in the last 10 years. You still see the Altadis type brands but much more floor space is dedicated to smaller independent manufacturers. I remember when I first started shopping for cigars it was hard to find any boutique brands at all. Fuentes were expensive and often sold out. Now, even Fuente, who used to be top dog among discriminating aficionados must be feeling the pressure to improve what they produce or lose smokers to more exciting brands.
Well Said Jeff.
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