Oil Found in Cuban waters

skibumdc · 10-24-2008, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wrench turner 85

i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing quality. but the price would go threw the roof.

Pride in the work has nothing to do with the Gov't control and the distribution. The workers do what the Gov't says....it's called communism.

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Originally Posted by poker

theres an embargo?

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Originally Posted by Mark C

Can't control the weather.

Nope. Cuba during some years had BAD quality control issues. CA magazine has talked about it and so have other forums. They blew up production and the quality suffered. They eventually scaled back down production until they could get it under control.

Habanos SA has said they are ready for the increased demand and scalable production if need be. But then again this is a gov't controlled organization so they speak what the gov't tells them to.

Also Most fo the farms changed the tobacco plant types to yield more crop per acre which changed the taste in 2003. It's why people covet pre-2003 cubans...that and they have at least 5 years of age on them.

ucla695 · 10-24-2008, 06:36 AM

Yes. I think quality would suffer initially, but it would eventualy come back.

Pyro · 10-24-2008, 07:03 AM

The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

10-24-2008, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyro

The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

I would have to agree with someone who has such an awsome name.

borndead1 · 10-24-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyro

The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

YES!!!!!!!!!! Personally, I can hardly wait for that to happen. Imagine the blending possibilities!!!!!

dunng · 10-24-2008, 07:59 AM

I voted Yes... but I am afraid of change...

Wolfgang · 10-24-2008, 08:26 AM

I vote NO. If the embargo was lifted every mook would be scrambling over eachother to get the Cuban Cigars, driving up the price, and i personally think there will be more counterfeits if that happened. Heve you looked at the lables of say Montecristo, or Rafiel Gonzolez? Any printer can make those. Clearly we are getting CC's from somwhwere already, at some good low prices too, why change that?

10-24-2008, 08:32 AM

so, oil in Cuba... why don't we just take it.

10-24-2008, 10:47 AM

I vote for yes,End the embargo. Maby they will import more Cubans like these.

10-24-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RottenZombie

I vote for yes,End the embargo. Maby they will import more Cubans like these.

in that case, i will vote YES

skibumdc · 10-24-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyro

The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

I thoguht this might happen as well....but then a good friend N2Advnture made me realize that the Cuban Gov't would never allow it.

They would prefer all the Cuban tobacco only be used in Puros. Makes their product more desirable. And since the Communist govt rules all, independent farmers don't have the capitalist right to sell to whomever they wish.

taltos · 10-24-2008, 04:54 PM

Kind of too bad that people value a cigar more than the valid interests of people and companies who were hurt by Castro and his revolution when he nationalized everything. Ask the Fuente family and others how much the revolution helped them. Ask the Cuban refugees in Miami how Castro was good for them. I have probably gone too far but if cigars are valued over people, I should not belong to a cigar forum.

macpappy · 10-24-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Kind of too bad that people value a cigar more than the valid interests of people and companies who were hurt by Castro and his revolution when he nationalized everything. Ask the Fuente family and others how much the revolution helped them. Ask the Cuban refugees in Miami how Castro was good for them. I have probably gone too far but if cigars are valued over people, I should not belong to a cigar forum.

you make some very valid points.
I think I know how Carlos would vote on this too

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10-24-2008, 06:36 AM	#2
ucla695 Neither here, nor there Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Pool Posts: 3,696 Trading: (5)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters Yes. I think quality would suffer initially, but it would eventualy come back.

10-24-2008, 07:03 AM	#3
Pyro Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Per Location: Sweden Posts: 30 Trading: (0)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!

10-24-2008, 07:59 AM	#6
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters I voted Yes... but I am afraid of change... __________________ MassHole Banter

10-24-2008, 08:26 AM	#7
Wolfgang Back from the dead Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 2,541 Trading: (14)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters I vote NO. If the embargo was lifted every mook would be scrambling over eachother to get the Cuban Cigars, driving up the price, and i personally think there will be more counterfeits if that happened. Heve you looked at the lables of say Montecristo, or Rafiel Gonzolez? Any printer can make those. Clearly we are getting CC's from somwhwere already, at some good low prices too, why change that? __________________ You probably wont remember that test you failed, but you'll never forget the girl you were with the night before, when you decided not to study.

10-24-2008, 08:32 AM	#8
theycallmedan'lboone Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters so, oil in Cuba... why don't we just take it.

10-24-2008, 10:47 AM	#9
RottenZombie Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters I vote for yes,End the embargo. Maby they will import more Cubans like these.

10-24-2008, 04:54 PM	#12
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: Oil Found in Cuban waters Kind of too bad that people value a cigar more than the valid interests of people and companies who were hurt by Castro and his revolution when he nationalized everything. Ask the Fuente family and others how much the revolution helped them. Ask the Cuban refugees in Miami how Castro was good for them. I have probably gone too far but if cigars are valued over people, I should not belong to a cigar forum.