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Old 10-23-2008, 10:42 PM   #1
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i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing quality. but the price would go threw the roof.

So why do some dodge certain years?
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:50 AM   #2
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So why do some dodge certain years?
Can't control the weather.
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:14 AM   #3
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I voted no and will continue to vote no until Cuba voluntarily starts to make reparations to US companies and individuals who had assets nationalized and until their human rights abuses end.
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:36 AM   #4
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:59 AM   #5
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:08 AM   #6
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I voted Yes. Yea, the price of cigars would go through the roof and I wouldn't see any for a while, but after things settle down I think everything would be fine and would love to have the ability to go to a B&M and buy a box or buy from an online retailer to purchase some without fear of having them yanked by Customs. They were common and inexpensive at one point and they could be again.

Plus, if trade was open with Cuba, I think both the US and Cuba would prosper monetarily. Cuba is said to have the worlds best mechanics since they can't get parts for their american cars and still find a way to make them run.
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I voted no and will continue to vote no until Cuba voluntarily starts to make reparations to US companies and individuals who had assets nationalized and until their human rights abuses end.
Sad that you were the first to mention 'people'. I'm actully of the mind that if things opened up between Cuban & U.S. then changes would come and a lot of deep wounds would start to heal.

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The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends.
Nothing to do with the embargo, it's Cuban gov controlled.
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:26 AM   #8
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i disagree, I think cuban people take pride in ther cigars and they would produce to the max without loosing quality. but the price would go threw the roof.
Pride in the work has nothing to do with the Gov't control and the distribution. The workers do what the Gov't says....it's called communism.

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Nope. Cuba during some years had BAD quality control issues. CA magazine has talked about it and so have other forums. They blew up production and the quality suffered. They eventually scaled back down production until they could get it under control.

Habanos SA has said they are ready for the increased demand and scalable production if need be. But then again this is a gov't controlled organization so they speak what the gov't tells them to.

Also Most fo the farms changed the tobacco plant types to yield more crop per acre which changed the taste in 2003. It's why people covet pre-2003 cubans...that and they have at least 5 years of age on them.
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Old 10-24-2008, 06:36 AM   #9
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Yes. I think quality would suffer initially, but it would eventualy come back.
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:03 AM   #10
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The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:41 AM   #11
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The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!
I would have to agree with someone who has such an awsome name.
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The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!



YES!!!!!!!!!! Personally, I can hardly wait for that to happen. Imagine the blending possibilities!!!!!
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:59 AM   #13
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I voted Yes... but I am afraid of change...
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The most interesting thing with a dropped embargo would be all new blends where the producers outside Cuba could start to incorporate Cuban leaf in their blends. If they were successful in combining the best of both worlds...WOW!
I thoguht this might happen as well....but then a good friend N2Advnture made me realize that the Cuban Gov't would never allow it.

They would prefer all the Cuban tobacco only be used in Puros. Makes their product more desirable. And since the Communist govt rules all, independent farmers don't have the capitalist right to sell to whomever they wish.
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:54 PM   #15
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Kind of too bad that people value a cigar more than the valid interests of people and companies who were hurt by Castro and his revolution when he nationalized everything. Ask the Fuente family and others how much the revolution helped them. Ask the Cuban refugees in Miami how Castro was good for them. I have probably gone too far but if cigars are valued over people, I should not belong to a cigar forum.
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