NFL Holdouts....Your thoughts?

BigAsh · 08-08-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by E.J.

People have to get their mind around the fact that this isn't a stinking game.... This is big business and these guys work for a living. Almost every one of them will be given a pink slip, no longer having the qualifications to perform the job.

I'm with Dom here.... These guys are paid what they deserve to be paid....it is a free market economy.... It is the exact reason for lockouts and strikes, these guys are business men that go to work and perform their trade....

I agree when it comes time for free agency....go out and get what the "market" will bear....but not the issue here....

chippewastud79 · 08-08-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh

I agree when it comes time for free agency....go out and get what the "market" will bear....but not the issue here....

Again, if he gets hurt during the season, will the team negotiate with him as if he was never injured? No. Thusly he could get nothing. The goal is to sign a new contract to get a nice potential signing bonus and some guaranteed money. There is nothing to say after the new contract is negotiated that the owners couldn't cut him and not have to pay him another dollar. The owners don't have to honor contracts, why are players expected to?

kelmac07 · 08-08-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

The owners don't have to honor contracts, why are players expected to?

The lightbulb just came on...very valid point here.

chippewastud79 · 08-08-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

The lightbulb just came on...very valid point here.

I've tried to point it out a few times.

No one is complaning about Adam Dunn making $13.5 million dollars this year, and he can retire tomorrow and still get the rest of the money in the contract he signed and the owners of baseball teams can do nothing. I think the Rangers still owe A-Rod about $16 million, the Knicks owe Alan Houston millions and he retired like 7 years ago.

The money in other sports, which is guaranteed, is ridiculous compared to the NFL and the player gets every dollar in those contracts, whether he performs to it or not. The NFL has very little guaranteed money, only signing bonuses and even sometimes those are prorated over longer periods of time and can be forfeited if the player is cut or retires.

E.J. · 08-08-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAsh

I agree when it comes time for free agency....go out and get what the "market" will bear....but not the issue here....

It has been pointed out more than a few times, but yea, IMO that is exactly the issue here.

As far as guaranteeing contracts in the NFL, never going to happen and I think we will see them disappear in the NBA shortly(see the current lockout).