NFL Holdouts....Your thoughts?

[jonumberone]

I never understood the argument that the players are overpaid.
You read gripe after gripe about how much money the players make, but never a peep about the owners income.
A lot was written about this locally when Jeter was in contract negotiations.
In 2009 the Yankees reported 441 million dollars in profits after operating costs and earned another 184+ million from the Yes network (84 million for rights & 100+ million in dividends).
Why did fans want so badly for Jeter to make 12 mil and the Yankees to make 444mil?

So it's not a complete threadjack,
The players should have the right to holdout, until the Owners guarantee contracts.
Players in the NFL aren't only asked to rework their contract when they underperform, sometimes they are asked to do so when they live up to them for the benefit of the team.
Marc Sanchez did so this year after taking his team to back to back AFC championship games.

[jledou]

Originally Posted by jonumberone

but never a peep about the owners income.

Not saying they are not overpaid also here. I don't feel sorry for the owners one bit when I shell out $27 for parking + $85 for a ticket + $11 for a beer +

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by jledou

Not saying they are not overpaid also here. I don't feel sorry for the owners one bit when I shell out $27 for parking + $85 for a ticket + $11 for a beer +

But fans don't hold out anything but their wallets when ticket prices and concessions get higher, but it seems that people have strong opinions about players trying to capitalize on their success.

[kelmac07]

Originally Posted by chippewastud79

But fans don't hold out anything but their wallets when ticket prices and concessions get higher, but it seems that people have strong opinions about players trying to capitalize on their success.

While I am not an owner supporter by any means (but they are business owners and not one us of here would enjoy having others tell us how to run our business). I have ZERO problems with a player capitalizing on their success AFTER their current contract expires/is about to expire. Some of these players are in year 2 of a 4-5 year deal, but because they had a career year, they are going to hold out??? HONOR the contract you signed from the beginning.

[chippewastud79]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

While I am not an owner supporter by any means (but they are business owners and not one us of here would enjoy having others tell us how to run our business). I have ZERO problems with a player capitalizing on their success AFTER their current contract expires/is about to expire. Some of these players are in year 2 of a 4-5 year deal, but because they had a career year, they are going to hold out??? HONOR the contract you signed from the beginning.

If players can be punished (cut) for under-performing, why can't they be rewarded (new contract) for over-performing?

[jonumberone]

Originally Posted by BigAsh

I agree when it comes time for free agency....go out and get what the "market" will bear....but not the issue here....

Originally Posted by kelmac07

HONOR the contract you signed from the beginning.

If Desean Jackson would have blown his knee out returning the punt, that put the nail in the coffin of the Giants season, that I will never forgive Matt Dodge for not kicking out of bounds, would the Eagles honor their end of an already signed contract?

Probably not!
So how can you begrudge him for trying to capitalize on a good year, when he could be cut due to one botched play where he gets hurt?

[BigAsh]

Originally Posted by jonumberone

If Desean Jackson would have blown his knee out returning the punt, that put the nail in the coffin of the Giants season, that I will never forgive Matt Dodge for not kicking out of bounds, would the Eagles honor their end of an already signed contract?

Probably not!
So how can you begrudge him for trying to capitalize on a good year, when he could be cut due to one botched play where he gets hurt?

This was really the point of my thread....coaxing Dom to face his suppressed memories....

I get the counter-point....just not a fan of the tactic, especially with the EAGLES, who have a won't renegotiate with hold-outs policy....see T.O. (another Rosenhaus client)

[jonumberone]

Originally Posted by BigAsh

This was really the point of my thread....coaxing Dom to face his suppressed memories....

I get the counter-point....just not a fan of the tactic, especially with the EAGLES, who have a won't renegotiate with hold-outs policy....see T.O. (another Rosenhaus client)

Couldn't sleep last night, Thanks Buddy

What tactic should players use?
Something tells me, asking ownership pretty please won't work