Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. - Page 9

burninator · 05-08-2011, 04:48 PM

Much appreciated. The grinder upgrade is set for an, as yet, undetermined point in the presumably near future, but I didn't want to purchase a stovetop set that's going to be useless with my setup. I like to think I've gotten used to drinking darn good coffee, and I don't want to diminish the product, if you read me.

Now, Bodum offers a stovetop unit that is comparable in size to the 3-cup Moka. Has anyone tried it out? The aluminum pot runs about the same price at this size.

Mister Moo · 05-09-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by burninator

Much appreciated. The grinder upgrade is set for an, as yet, undetermined point in the presumably near future, but I didn't want to purchase a stovetop set that's going to be useless with my setup. I like to think I've gotten used to drinking darn good coffee, and I don't want to diminish the product, if you read me.

Now, Bodum offers a stovetop unit that is comparable in size to the 3-cup Moka. Has anyone tried it out? The aluminum pot runs about the same price at this size.

That's a sporty little three cup stainless pot for $70; they are very proud of it. Seems like the Bialetti aluminum three-cup pots are more like $25 or less; Fantes show a six-cup ss pot (and the rarely-seen ultra cute aluminum 1-cup Express for $9.99) for $53.

http://fantes.com/espresso-stovetop.html

http://remodelista.com/products/bodu...stovetop-maker

burninator · 05-09-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Moo

That's a sporty little three cup stainless pot for $70; they are very proud of it. Seems like the Bialetti aluminum three-cup pots are more like $25 or less; Fantes show a six-cup ss pot (and the rarely-seen ultra cute aluminum 1-cup Express for $9.99) for $53.

http://fantes.com/espresso-stovetop.html

http://remodelista.com/products/bodu...stovetop-maker

Ooh, lawdy mercy! No, I was looking at this one here for about $25 shipped. I'm getting the Bialetti...I was just curious about the Bodum, since I've enjoyed my press so much.

06-26-2011, 07:37 PM

So last Saturday I bought a cheapo ceramic moka pot (cups and plates included), which made so-so Italian coffee. It turned out that the upper ceramic portion was glued together with the lower aluminum portion of the pot, and after three runs on the stove it unglued, leaving me with with quite a mess to clean in my kitchen.

I went to the department store where I bought it, exchanged it for a Bialetti Moka Express and bought a set of proper espresso cups. I came back, threw away the first brew and then... wow! What a coffee! Huge thanks to Mr. Moo for his detailed procedure and indications. I still have dial in the crema, but it's far better than most espressos I've ordered in restaurants or coffee shops.

BTW, nice write-up about the Moka Pot here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennif..._b_744350.html

Mister Moo · 06-27-2011, 10:44 AM

Cool beans.

07-29-2011, 07:32 PM

Is Isuma a good brand? I am at Target right now and they have one.

Mister Moo · 07-29-2011, 10:38 PM

No idea. I am a Bialetti Express man.

07-29-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Moo

No idea. I am a Bialetti Express man.

This was half the price and stainless steel so I bought it and some cheapo Cafe Bustelo since I am new to this I didn't want to go in all the way and buy the $30 Bialetti and the really expensive coffee. This stuff is really good though! I am going to make it Cuban style tomorrow morning (I think that is what it is called with the sugar and such?) as well as look up new techniques. I just followed the one in the instructions. I know that most have said that aluminum is ideal but I am a health freak at times so I went with the stainless steel.

I will have to re-read this thread.

07-29-2011, 11:17 PM

It's a four cup so I suppose I am a ex-crack addict. I just figured that my girlfriend or one of my roomates might want some and I can make it a cafe americano right? Just add hot water?

07-29-2011, 11:36 PM

Dan, will an upgrade from a Maestro to a Rocky make any difference with mokapots? Need to upgrade soon
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Mister Moo · 07-30-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Dan, will an upgrade from a Maestro to a Rocky make any difference with mokapots? Need to upgrade soon
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D'ohhhhh... probly not.

Espresso? Absolutely.
Longevity? For sure.
Somewhat less sludge in press and moka? Ja, shure.

Maestro, if somewhat noisey and slow compared to pro-sumer grinders, is pretty darn good.

07-30-2011, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister Moo

D'ohhhhh... probly not.

Espresso? Absolutely.
Longevity? For sure.
Somewhat less sludge in press and moka? Ja, shure.

Maestro, if somewhat noisey and slow compared to pro-sumer grinders, is pretty darn good.

Ok, I was hoping for a good reason to buy a rocky

Maybe I will save a bit and buy a Gaggia Classic or Ranc. Syl.

07-30-2011, 01:29 PM

Okay what am I doing wrong? My coffee has been coming out warm and not hot. Should I do a lower heat setting? That might sound odd but my coffee has been brewing quickly so I am thinking maybe I have it on too high of heat and it is making it brew before it is boiling? Any thoughts? To me it tastes great but I could be doing it totally wrong lol

Mister Moo · 07-30-2011, 04:27 PM

After several minutes of medium heat to develop brewing pressure I try to brew a 3-cup mokapot for 45-60 seconds. With a gas burner that means low-low flame as brewing commences; with an electric range it usually means lifting & lowering (or sliding the pot away from the burner "hot spot") to control brewing temp. That brew rate isn't much more than a dribble.

The process gets the entire metal pot far too hot to touch (125*F = ouch). My pour is always hot - even it I wait minutes before filling a cup. If you have a problem with cool brew, try preheating your mug with boiling water while your coffee is brewing. MMoo

07-30-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Moo

After several minutes of medium heat to develop brewing pressure I try to brew a 3-cup mokapot for 45-60 seconds. With a gas burner that means low-low flame as brewing commences; with an electric range it usually means lifting & lowering (or sliding the pot away from the burner "hot spot") to control brewing temp. That brew rate isn't much more than a dribble.

The process gets the entire metal pot far too hot to touch (125*F = ouch). My pour is always hot - even it I wait minutes before filling a cup. If you have a problem with cool brew, try preheating your mug with boiling water while your coffee is brewing. MMoo

I will try it on lower heat. Thanks. I tried it a little lower and it was better. I had it on medium I'll try low low.

07-30-2011, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Moo

After several minutes of medium heat to develop brewing pressure I try to brew a 3-cup mokapot for 45-60 seconds. With a gas burner that means low-low flame as brewing commences; with an electric range it usually means lifting & lowering (or sliding the pot away from the burner "hot spot") to control brewing temp. That brew rate isn't much more than a dribble.

The process gets the entire metal pot far too hot to touch (125*F = ouch). My pour is always hot - even it I wait minutes before filling a cup. If you have a problem with cool brew, try preheating your mug with boiling water while your coffee is brewing. MMoo

Is this different than the video you posted a couple years back that is linked in this thread? I don't think the brew time was that long in it.

Mister Moo · 07-31-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallbright

Is this different than the video you posted a couple years back that is linked in this thread? I don't think the brew time was that long in it.

vid was a 1-cupper.

07-31-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Moo

vid was a 1-cupper.

Ah, that explains it. This is a 4 cup pot. I made some this morning using low low heat on my gas burner and it was much hotter and developed a tiny bit of crema on top.

I will keep experimenting with it until I get it right. That is only once a day thought because I don't think I can handle 8 cups in one day. The four is great for jump starting my mornings.

WyGuy · 12-18-2011, 08:15 PM

My family had celebrated Christmas early this year due to conflicting schedules next week and I was lucky enough to get some new coffee gear.

First cup out of the Mokapot turned out pretty good thanks to all the enough in this thread!

Blak Smyth · 12-18-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WyGuy

My family had celebrated Christmas early this year due to conflicting schedules next week and I was lucky enough to get some new coffee gear.

First cup out of the Mokapot turned out pretty good thanks to all the enough in this thread!

That's exactly what I was looking at next. I gotta upgrade to a burr grinder first and then a moka pot. Nice Xmas presents you got right there!

05-08-2011, 04:48 PM	#161
burninator Still Watching My Back Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 55 Trading: (0)	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. Much appreciated. The grinder upgrade is set for an, as yet, undetermined point in the presumably near future, but I didn't want to purchase a stovetop set that's going to be useless with my setup. I like to think I've gotten used to drinking darn good coffee, and I don't want to diminish the product, if you read me. Now, Bodum offers a stovetop unit that is comparable in size to the 3-cup Moka. Has anyone tried it out? The aluminum pot runs about the same price at this size.

06-26-2011, 07:37 PM	#164
GusAGV Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. So last Saturday I bought a cheapo ceramic moka pot (cups and plates included), which made so-so Italian coffee. It turned out that the upper ceramic portion was glued together with the lower aluminum portion of the pot, and after three runs on the stove it unglued, leaving me with with quite a mess to clean in my kitchen. I went to the department store where I bought it, exchanged it for a Bialetti Moka Express and bought a set of proper espresso cups. I came back, threw away the first brew and then... wow! What a coffee! Huge thanks to Mr. Moo for his detailed procedure and indications. I still have dial in the crema, but it's far better than most espressos I've ordered in restaurants or coffee shops. BTW, nice write-up about the Moka Pot here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennif..._b_744350.html

06-27-2011, 10:44 AM	#165
Mister Moo I barely grok the obvious Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Lizard Lick, NC Posts: 1,417 Trading: (3)	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. Cool beans. __________________ "I hope you had the time of your life."

07-29-2011, 07:32 PM	#166
Tyler Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. Is Isuma a good brand? I am at Target right now and they have one.

07-29-2011, 10:38 PM	#167
Mister Moo I barely grok the obvious Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Lizard Lick, NC Posts: 1,417 Trading: (3)	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. No idea. I am a Bialetti Express man. __________________ "I hope you had the time of your life."

07-29-2011, 11:17 PM	#169
Tyler Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. It's a four cup so I suppose I am a ex-crack addict. I just figured that my girlfriend or one of my roomates might want some and I can make it a cafe americano right? Just add hot water?

07-29-2011, 11:36 PM	#170
ChicagoWhiteSox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. Dan, will an upgrade from a Maestro to a Rocky make any difference with mokapots? Need to upgrade soon Posted via Mobile Device

07-30-2011, 01:29 PM	#173
Tyler Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. Okay what am I doing wrong? My coffee has been coming out warm and not hot. Should I do a lower heat setting? That might sound odd but my coffee has been brewing quickly so I am thinking maybe I have it on too high of heat and it is making it brew before it is boiling? Any thoughts? To me it tastes great but I could be doing it totally wrong lol

07-30-2011, 04:27 PM	#174
Mister Moo I barely grok the obvious Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Lizard Lick, NC Posts: 1,417 Trading: (3)	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. After several minutes of medium heat to develop brewing pressure I try to brew a 3-cup mokapot for 45-60 seconds. With a gas burner that means low-low flame as brewing commences; with an electric range it usually means lifting & lowering (or sliding the pot away from the burner "hot spot") to control brewing temp. That brew rate isn't much more than a dribble. The process gets the entire metal pot far too hot to touch (125*F = ouch). My pour is always hot - even it I wait minutes before filling a cup. If you have a problem with cool brew, try preheating your mug with boiling water while your coffee is brewing. MMoo __________________ "I hope you had the time of your life."

12-18-2011, 08:15 PM	#179
WyGuy Boiler Up! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: MN Posts: 1,359 Trading: (16)	Re: Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period. My family had celebrated Christmas early this year due to conflicting schedules next week and I was lucky enough to get some new coffee gear. First cup out of the Mokapot turned out pretty good thanks to all the enough in this thread!