Second Firearm Thread...

[Remo]

16267

Told the wife I wanted a pocket gun for Xmas so I am getting an M&P .380 to go with my Shield and full size M&P's :wo

[Chainsaw13]

Nice Mike!

[Ashcan Bill]

I stopped in my local purveyor of fine firearms yesterday and came home with this model 37. It's a good bookend for my faithful 36 shown in the background, and it's an Airweight so it's about a third lighter. Both these came off the assembly line back in '89.

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a514/wak52/Wheelies/Model%2037%20013_zpsaf5sjljt.jpg

[Remo]

Nice pick up Bill :tu

[68TriShield]

My boy just sold his M&P 380 (secondary gun)

[Remo]

16329

Made it to the gun store finally for my early Xmas gift :tu

[mahtofire14]

Hey guys, looking to buy my first handgun. Looking at mostly home defense and gun range for use. Looking at Glock and M&Ps. Have shot both, and am leaning towards Glock.

Also is there any good way to get discounted prices. I have noticed Glock is almost never on sale.

Thanks for your opinions.

[Remo]

Check gun broker and cheaper than dirt, they will ship to your FFL. What caliber? That Glock 43 is a sweet little gun :tu

[Chainsaw13]

I have both a Glock 22 and a M&P 40c. Prefer the M&P. groupings are much better with that one.

Slickguns is another good site to find deals.

[Brian D.]

Hey guys, looking to buy my first handgun. Looking at mostly home defense and gun range for use. Looking at Glock and M&Ps. Have shot both, and am leaning towards Glock.

Also is there any good way to get discounted prices. I have noticed Glock is almost never on sale.

Thanks for your opinions.

Glock and S&W have "First responder" discount programs available to police, fire, EMS, military, etc. Check for specifics. Also, Glock sponsors a regular series of matches run by their Glock Shooting Sports Foundation. Get a membership it makes you eligible for roughly the same discounts given through the First Responder program.

[dijit]

Taurus curve was given me by my brother in Oct for beating cancer. Love it looks like I am carrying a wallet.

[Remo]

16330

Makes my Shield look big :)

[shilala]

I'm due for a new slug flinger. I'd like a couple old 9mm's so I can duel wield, just like in Halo.

[357]

16329

Made it to the gun store finally for my early Xmas gift :tu

Nice Mike. I need a secondary for lightweight carry like that. I'm not sold on the .380 round though. I had considered the LC9 but lately I've heard complaints about quality.

[357]

I'm due for a new slug flinger. I'd like a couple old 9mm's so I can duel wield, just like in Halo.

Like this Scott? Link (http://pm1.narvii.com/5830/ed3f9e79cd3fdda064b3a6b62321feab6add2239_hq.jpg)

[Remo]

Nice Mike. I need a secondary for lightweight carry like that. I'm not sold on the .380 round though. I had considered the LC9 but lately I've heard complaints about quality.

Ya, I am lazy about carrying my 9mm in the summer when I am just wearing shorts and a t-shirt, i'll just throw this in my pocket as a last resort. They always say that any gun with you is better than your .45 at home :)

[Stevez]

I always check out Buds for good deals and usually find their prices very competitive. I researched pocket guns quite a bit a few years ago and ended up going with the Kahr CM9 and love it. Bought a good pocket holster that was made for it and works great. The LC9's trigger to me was way too long and mushy. I also have the M&P9c and love that line, but that's not a pocket gun.

[Steve]

16330

Makes my Shield look big :)

:tu

[Nathan]

Hey guys, looking to buy my first handgun. Looking at mostly home defense and gun range for use. Looking at Glock and M&Ps. Have shot both, and am leaning towards Glock.

Also is there any good way to get discounted prices. I have noticed Glock is almost never on sale.

Thanks for your opinions.

When I got my Glock 19 I joined the Glock Sport Shooting Foundation and was able to order one at the law enforcement price and it was the cheapest I could find. This was 7 years ago though I don't know if they still do it.

[Chainsaw13]

Anyone familiar with the Urban Carry holsters? Urbancarryholsters.com

[shilala]

Like this Scott? Link (http://pm1.narvii.com/5830/ed3f9e79cd3fdda064b3a6b62321feab6add2239_hq.jpg)
YES!!! :tu

[Brian D.]

The first responder (aka Blue Label) price locally on a fourth generation model 17, 19, 22, or 23 is $425 and tax. The prices on those models in 3rd Gen is a little lower. Other less popular models are higher. Factory night sights add about $40.

I wanted to take advantage of this for a few years but my FD refused to get us updated photo IDs, a requirement of the deal from Glock. Then for unknown reasons it became imperative we all get new credentials w/photo.

So now I've gotten two model 19's with this deal in the last year.

Far as I know the GSSF deals are the same prices and are still offered by stores/ranges that host the matches. But just like the first responder program the supply of guns are sometimes limited.

[czerbe]

Just picked up a new XDS in 9mm I have the XDsc in 9mm plus a couple of Rugers but I just love the XD platform all together.

[czerbe]

16330

Makes my Shield look big :)

Is that that Bodyguard Remo?

[Remo]

Is that that Bodyguard Remo?

Ya, the .380 bodyguard.

[BlkDrew]

Anyone familiar with the Urban Carry holsters? Urbancarryholsters.com

I just looked them up and i was tempted to buy one as i hate appendix carry. Once they catch up on their back order i may buy one. price isnt bad and a lot of the reviews from customers were helpful.

[Remo]

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My M&P family.

[Remo]

I finally went and got my concealed carry permit, have never needed one as I can carry anywhere as an off duty officer, but I got tired of paying the extra cash for a background check when buying guns (they even make cops pay) if you don't have a CCW. Anyways all I needed was a letter from my chief, took 15 minutes :tu

[dijit]

Time well spent I say!

[Steve]

16353

My M&P family.

:tu:tu

[Drez]

I finally went and got my concealed carry permit, have never needed one as I can carry anywhere as an off duty officer, but I got tired of paying the extra cash for a background check when buying guns (they even make cops pay) if you don't have a CCW. Anyways all I needed was a letter from my chief, took 15 minutes :tu

Cops still have to wait the 5 day period down here if they dont have a concealed. Makes no sense.

[Steve]

But hey, now Mike's legal in Florida...

[Remo]

But hey, now Mike's legal in Florida...

Hell ya, most states :tu

[Steve]

BTW, I'm pretty sure when this months bank statement comes in, I'm going to be getting coal for Christmas. BUT, I won't have to worry about those pesky Florida grizzlies or musk ox getting me...

:tf

[0002S]

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/000002s/7mm%20Mauser_zpslftf1jo1.jpg

[Steve]

Pretty Shawn!

[Steve]

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/Misc_12/Things%20can%20get%20messy.jpg

[czerbe]

I finally went and got my concealed carry permit, have never needed one as I can carry anywhere as an off duty officer, but I got tired of paying the extra cash for a background check when buying guns (they even make cops pay) if you don't have a CCW. Anyways all I needed was a letter from my chief, took 15 minutes :tu

Nice I live in Pa which is Very Gun Friendly I have had mine for nearly 8 years and I try and carry everyday.

[Remo]

16379

While working my part time yesterday I found a couple of 30 round Port City mags. A quick google search found some good reviews, got them on sale and walked out with both for $6.90...score!

[dijit]

16379

While working my part time yesterday I found a couple of 30 round Port City mags. A quick google search found some good reviews, got them on sale and walked out with both for $6.90...score!

Hell that aint a score! Thats a grand slam straight through the uprights for a safety from mid court 3 point kinda score.

[Weelok]

Thought I would post my ridiculous gun safe in this thread. Guns later. CCW holder in California and CA law requires you to trigger lock or put in a safe your firearms that your currentry not using which generally means under your control. So if I'm going to have to buy something, might as well be useful.

I spent a bunch of time looking around and bang for buck seemed Sturdy Safe was pretty good and it supports a California business that manufactures the safes on site.

I went with the Model 3224 with the 4 AWG body upgrade. It was quite a bit cheaper last year but prices go up in CA faster then most places but 4 AWG steel safes at this price in the US are hard to find. No fire wall as you will see and that saved me a lot of money. I figure go home insurance if I get a fire as none of my weapons are collectibles.

Here is some pics:


http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g402/Weelok/F49CC054-1DAB-471B-B4A7-E455565EBB16_zpsb0gvnjvk.jpg (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Weelok/media/F49CC054-1DAB-471B-B4A7-E455565EBB16_zpsb0gvnjvk.jpg.html)

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g402/Weelok/4B1B5B8A-39B4-457B-BE86-A85544D49899_zpswxk1uwf4.jpg (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Weelok/media/4B1B5B8A-39B4-457B-BE86-A85544D49899_zpswxk1uwf4.jpg.html)

I still need to plumb an outlet inside for a dehumidifier but using a large box of desiccant I picked up on Amazon right now as Sacramento is quite humid in the winter. Summer no big deal.

[Brian D.]

Us cigar and gun guys go to much fighting humidity. In our humidors we want a lot of it, but our safes must be desert dry. Guess it's always struck me funny that we spend money on both humidifying AND dehumidifying.

[weedsnager]

Did the safe come with lights ?

[Weelok]

Did the safe come with lights ?

No, the safe does not and that would have been nice as it's DARK as hell with the black paint. After I plumb an outlet, I was going to put in an LED light string or something. It really needs it as it's a cave and my garage lighting stinks.

I need a new ballast in the overhead light fixture so some to do items.

[weedsnager]

I bought blue led strips and put them around the inside of the door frame and under the shelves, I then put them on a push button type switch that goes on when the door opens

[Remo]

16402

Any Rock Island owners here? I think the Tac II with VZ grips is my next gun.

[Steve]

Hot AND deadly Momma!

http://oldchurchbbq.com/sharedpictures/2015-12-31_Banging%20in%20the%20New%20Year/2015-12-31%2017.33.57.jpg

[Remo]

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I really love the look and feel of a 1911 but I just don't trust them with my life (I know some people swear by them and to each his own) but I still wanted a .45, well I went with a platform that I am familiar with so I ordered an M&P compact .45, should be here in a few days :tu

[Steve]

16419

I really love the look and feel of a 1911 but I just don't trust them with my life (I know some people swear by them and to each his own) but I still wanted a .45, well I went with a platform that I am familiar with so I ordered an M&P compact .45, should be here in a few days :tu

Looks about the same size as a Shield...hang on to it! :D

[Remo]

Looks about the same size as a Shield...hang on to it! :D

Quite a bit bigger all around, should be a good shooter :tu

[Steve]

:tu:tu

Without a hand or something for reference, it looked small. After googling it I see said the blind man... ;)

[czerbe]

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p601/czerbe/Fire%20Arms/20160104_211326_zpsluejjsid.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/czerbe/media/Fire%20Arms/20160104_211326_zpsluejjsid.jpg.html)

Put some new Talon Grips on my Baby! Love it.

[Remo]

Very cool Corey :tu

[czerbe]

Thanks Mike I love them it was really easy and not expensive at all. $20.00 to the door and took about 15 mins to put them on. I will be buying these for more of my pistols

[bonjing]

Thought I would post my ridiculous gun safe in this thread. Guns later. CCW holder in California and CA law requires you to trigger lock or put in a safe your firearms that your currentry not using which generally means under your control. So if I'm going to have to buy something, might as well be useful.

I spent a bunch of time looking around and bang for buck seemed Sturdy Safe was pretty good and it supports a California business that manufactures the safes on site.

I went with the Model 3224 with the 4 AWG body upgrade. It was quite a bit cheaper last year but prices go up in CA faster then most places but 4 AWG steel safes at this price in the US are hard to find. No fire wall as you will see and that saved me a lot of money. I figure go home insurance if I get a fire as none of my weapons are collectibles.

Here is some pics:


http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g402/Weelok/F49CC054-1DAB-471B-B4A7-E455565EBB16_zpsb0gvnjvk.jpg (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Weelok/media/F49CC054-1DAB-471B-B4A7-E455565EBB16_zpsb0gvnjvk.jpg.html)

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g402/Weelok/4B1B5B8A-39B4-457B-BE86-A85544D49899_zpswxk1uwf4.jpg (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Weelok/media/4B1B5B8A-39B4-457B-BE86-A85544D49899_zpswxk1uwf4.jpg.html)

I still need to plumb an outlet inside for a dehumidifier but using a large box of desiccant I picked up on Amazon right now as Sacramento is quite humid in the winter. Summer no big deal.

I have a sturdy myself and love it.

[HK3-]

Picked up a few since last time I posted on here. Here's a few…

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/IMG_9825.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/IMG_9826.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/IMG_9827.jpg

[Brian D.]

A good safe was likely the best gun-related purchase I ever made. Never had a break in at the house but have had strangers (contractors etc.) in my condo see the safe, perhaps took note it was bolted to the floor and thought better of coming back uninvited.

[Remo]

Awesome Hal :dr

[HK3-]

A good safe was likely the best gun-related purchase I ever made. Never had a break in at the house but have had strangers (contractors etc.) in my condo see the safe, perhaps took note it was bolted to the floor and thought better of coming back uninvited.

If you know it's there and you still attempt to rob the place….you got some balls. It's a 50/50 that you will live to see another day. :2

[Chainsaw13]

Holy crap Hal. Nice collection. What's the middle one in the first pic?

[HK3-]

Holy crap Hal. Nice collection. What's the middle one in the first pic?

Barrett MRAD in .338LM

[Chainsaw13]

Barrett MRAD in .338LM

Wow, that thing is sweet.

Anyone have recommendations on lower kits? Looking to start buying the parts to build a new lower for my RRA varmint upper.

[Remo]

16448

M&P .45 compact came in today :wo

[mahtofire14]

Glock or M&P remo? I'm having a hard time deciding between the two.

[Remo]

Glock or M&P remo? I'm having a hard time deciding between the two.

I was a Glock guy for a long time, switched all of my guns to M&P and never been happier, same reliability but the M&P shoots better for me, not as canted as the Glock.

[Drez]

Just picked up a Glock 42. Needed a pocket gun for those "quick out the door" days.

[dijit]

Glock or M&P remo? I'm having a hard time deciding between the two.

I have to agree with Remo on this for me the natural aimpoint on a glock at 25 ft is about a foot high. Reliability is top notch though. Personally I went with the XDM but the M&P series is very hard to beat.

[dijit]

Wow, that thing is sweet.

Anyone have recommendations on lower kits? Looking to start buying the parts to build a new lower for my RRA varmint upper.

Cant go wrong with rock river. Both of my lowers are from SAA. Great builds easy price and same milspec quality you get from some of the higher end retailers.

My next build will be from an 80% lower and be fro the AR-10

[Brian D.]

16448

M&P .45 compact came in today :wo

Those are nice. Only a little bit bigger than the same gun in 9mm/.40. Can't really say that about the Glocks, frame sizes vary enough between 9mm and the .45 acp to notice at a quick glance.

Different strokes for different folks though.

[HK3-]

Went to an indoor range nearby and shot for about an hour. On the way out I decided to do a little window shopping. In the used section they had a Dan Wesson 741 .41 Mag, blued, two sets of grips (one are the DW wooden ones),a case and it has a ten inch barrel. When he said $575 I looked around for a camera because I thought I was getting punked. Can't wait to shoot this pig.

[Brian D.]

Very good deal.

[Remo]

Got qualified today with my compact .45, that is a smooth shooter, feels like shooting my 9mm but bigger holes :tu

[Steve]

Got qualified today with my compact .45, that is a smooth shooter, feels like shooting my 9mm but bigger holes :tu

:tu:tu

[bonjing]

If anyone needs 10% off an order of $150 or more at Brownells, use code K4R

[BigBruce]

Just picked up m&p shield 9mm for concealed purpose. Liked the way it shot better than the xps or glock 43. Got a great deal at the px for $303 out the door. Glock would of been $420 out the door for blue label purchase if anybody was wondering. Now if only I could find cheap good 9mm ammo in bulk.

[Remo]

Just picked up m&p shield 9mm for concealed purpose. Liked the way it shot better than the xps or glock 43. Got a great deal at the px for $303 out the door. Glock would of been $420 out the door for blue label purchase if anybody was wondering. Now if only I could find cheap good 9mm ammo in bulk.

Nice grab, love my shield :tu

[Chainsaw13]

Plenty of sites have 9mm in bulk, around $.21/rd.

Check out, ammoseek.com, lucky gunner, natchezs, bulk ammo.

[HK3-]

Plenty of sites have 9mm in bulk, around $.21/rd.

Check out, ammoseek.com, lucky gunner, natchezs, bulk ammo.

Also try gunbot(dot)net as well if you've never used that to find cheap ammo.

[Steve]

Nice grab, love my shield :tu

:tu:tu Nice little compact!

[Remo]

16510

Did some gunsmithing today on my M&P, the shop ordered me in the version with the thumb safety, thought I could live with it but it was a no go, call S&W and they sent me out the frame plugs, did a 10 minute job today and no more thumb safety and no holes in frame :wo

[Remo]

16511

Like this before

[Flynnster]

That looks like it might get caught on a lot, good to see if was a simple fix.

[bonjing]

Mike, let me know if you want to sell the thumb safety. I could use a spare one.

[Remo]

Mike, let me know if you want to sell the thumb safety. I could use a spare one.

All yours, send a smoke as payment.

[czerbe]

The family of Crossbreed Holsters http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p601/czerbe/Fire%20Arms/20160120_190618_zps8xlmalta.jpg (http://s1158.photobucket.com/user/czerbe/media/Fire%20Arms/20160120_190618_zps8xlmalta.jpg.html)

[Remo]

Looks good Corey :tu

[Steve]

Dang, can't even tell it was there... :tu:tu

[HK3-]

Ordered my first fun wheel gun and need opinions on red dot sights. What do you have and why do you like or dislike it? Right now I'm leaning towards a vortex solely on the fact that their warranty is so great.

[Preacher]

I have seen the urban carry and am not a fan. I know they say that the draw is fast, but I have my reservations vs a regular holster. I also don't like the fact that the draw (no matter who fast) requires 2 hands. You might find yourself in a scenario where you are using your weak hand to create distance between you and an attacker while drawing with your strong hand. I have a tendency to stick with a traditional holster design and avoid all of the "latest and greatest". Take the time, do the research and order a good holster the first time out (with a good gunbelt).

[Preacher]

Ordered my first fun wheel gun and need opinions on red dot sights. What do you have and why do you like or dislike it? Right now I'm leaning towards a vortex solely on the fact that their warranty is so great.

I can't speak for their handgun sights, but I have a vortex on my AR and it is a great sight that didn't break the bank. Made in the US and lifetime warranty, even if you break it! What's not to like?

[Preacher]

My EDC is a commander 1911. I also have a Glock 22, but the 1911 carries and conceals better for me.

[HK3-]

I can't speak for their handgun sights, but I have a vortex on my AR and it is a great sight that didn't break the bank. Made in the US and lifetime warranty, even if you break it! What's not to like?

True. Thanks.

[Flynnster]

For the first time in years I walked into a store today (Bass Pro) and bought .22lr ammo. No limits, no crazy prices, no random brands in little ziploc bags with no names. Just a bulk box of 325 Federal.

It may be different where you're at, but in Michigan, it's been a long time since I've been able to do that and not pay $1 a round.

[czerbe]

Ammo has been getting better in Pa that is for sure. 22 Lr is around and 9mm has come down in price. .380 is still up there but its getting better.

[Remo]

For the first time in years I walked into a store today (Bass Pro) and bought .22lr ammo. No limits, no crazy prices, no random brands in little ziploc bags with no names. Just a bulk box of 325 Federal.

It may be different where you're at, but in Michigan, it's been a long time since I've been able to do that and not pay $1 a round.

Very nice!!

[HK3-]

For the first time in years I walked into a store today (Bass Pro) and bought .22lr ammo. No limits, no crazy prices, no random brands in little ziploc bags with no names. Just a bulk box of 325 Federal.

It may be different where you're at, but in Michigan, it's been a long time since I've been able to do that and not pay $1 a round.

I know right! Earlier this week I stopped in at a Dunhams and they had hundreds of thousands of 22 rounds. I was able to grab a brick of thunderbolts and a hundred round count of shorts for a normal price. Don't get me wrong though, we have a shop up the road that has plenty but you're going to pay nine bucks for a pack of fifty. :sl

[HK3-]

Here's my first 38 super. Picked it up this past wednesday after being delayed on my forty-four-seventy-three. Haven't decided if it's a safe queen or a shooter. :noon
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/IMG_2997.jpg (http://s286.photobucket.com/user/Lvmesum3zs/media/IMG_2997.jpg.html)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/IMG_2996.jpg (http://s286.photobucket.com/user/Lvmesum3zs/media/IMG_2996.jpg.html)

[Chainsaw13]

That's beautiful Hal.

My new Savage 20ga should be here Tuesday. :wo

[Remo]

Like a Cartel boss, Hal :)

[bonjing]

That's nice, Hal! What do you have behind that Colt?

[HK3-]

That's beautiful Hal.

My new Savage 20ga should be here Tuesday. :wo

Which one did you get Bob?

Like a Cartel boss, Hal :) Lol

That's nice, Hal! What do you have behind that Colt?

It's a Kimber sapphire in 9mm

[Chainsaw13]

Savage 220, 20ga bolt action slug gun. I'm going to be hunting in a shotgun zone this year, with the potential of 150-200 yard shots. Everything I've read says the Savage is up to the task.

[Chainsaw13]

Also found a great deal on gunbroker for a Leupold Ultimateslam scope for it.

[HK3-]

Savage 220, 20ga bolt action slug gun. I'm going to be hunting in a shotgun zone this year, with the potential of 150-200 yard shots. Everything I've read says the Savage is up to the task.

Also found a great deal on gunbroker for a Leupold Ultimateslam scope for it.

Very cool! I didn't hunt here in Michigan this past deer season but Im learning that you can hunt with a rifle but it has to be in a pistol caliber??? Guessing this is to prevent stray long traveling projectiles.

Slug guns are pretty wicked. I've always lived somewhere where we could use rifles or buckshot so I've never owned a real slug gun. I've used the old sabots or pumpkin balls a long time ago but I recall them being not very accurate compared to a rifled slug barrel.

[Chainsaw13]

Yea, you can use any straight walled cartridge as long as it's 1.8 in case length or less. At least that's what I've been told.

Researching the Savage, lots of guys in MI have them and love it. Was at Cabela's today and got a couple different boxes of Hornady's for it. Wanted Remington Accutip, but no 20ga on the shelves. :(

The line for gun sales was crazy.

[Flynnster]

If any of yall are bass fishers, the Bass Pro sale going on right now is actually pretty great. I'm more of an online shopper but they had some great deals. Stocked up on Zoom plastics at 25% off, tons of hardbaits on markdown, and some great sales plus rebates on line.

[HK3-]

Yea, you can use any straight walled cartridge as long as it's 1.8 in case length or less. At least that's what I've been told.

Researching the Savage, lots of guys in MI have them and love it. Was at Cabela's today and got a couple different boxes of Hornady's for it. Wanted Remington Accutip, but no 20ga on the shelves. :(

The line for gun sales was crazy.

Cool. I will look at my local shop for your Remington Accutip in 20ga, Correct?

[Chainsaw13]

Cool. I will look at my local shop for your Remington Accutip in 20ga, Correct?

Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.

[dijit]

That's nice, Hal! What do you have behind that Colt?

It looks like a Kimber

[Remo]

16583

Cleaned my rifle up today :tu

[Chainsaw13]

Got my shotgun today. Time to mount the scope then bore site it.

[Remo]

Nice one Bob :tu

[matt0278]

16583

Cleaned my rifle up today :tu

Mike, have you had any problem with your EOTECH holding zero? They downed all of ours after the lawsuit. Looks like we're going with aimpoint for now. Mine nave gave me any issues, but they were concerned about liability. I've beat the hell out of it for years and it held zero like a champ.

[Remo]

Mike, have you had any problem with your EOTECH holding zero? They downed all of ours after the lawsuit. Looks like we're going with aimpoint for now. Mine nave gave me any issues, but they were concerned about liability. I've beat the hell out of it for years and it held zero like a champ.

No issues with mine, i'll see this spring when I get back on the range, but I don't expect any issues.

[HK3-]

Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.

Stopped off at the same place and it was the same price as yours. I will check some of the other smaller shops around or see if my Wally World has it for any less than $16.

[Blueface]

Saw this the other day and thought it was quite interesting.
Glad I have that Glock 21 as my go to bedroom/home defense weapon of choice.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/367b5dc9afc7c7b37bfb0ce9e6fdfaac.jpg

[HK3-]

Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.

Found it at Meijer for $12.99 Bob. Not great but definitely better.

[Chainsaw13]

Found it at Meijer for $12.99 Bob. Not great but definitely better.

I'll be on the look out. I was going to check Wallyworld, but I just can't force myself to go into that store more than once a month. And i was just there.

[TNT009]

Saw this the other day and thought it was quite interesting.
Glad I have that Glock 21 as my go to bedroom/home defense weapon of choice.

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So many variables with that... I've seen .45s bounce off skull and guy lived, but a .22 pierce the skull and scramble the brain. I know my wife couldn't handle the .45, but rocks the 9.

[nutcracker]

So many variables with that... I've seen .45s bounce off skull and guy lived, but a .22 pierce the skull and scramble the brain. I know my wife couldn't handle the .45, but rocks the 9.

Wound ballistics is actually quite complex - the injury is a factor of the kinetic energy imparted - which in turn in determined as follows:

mass x velocity (squared) at entry - mass x velocity (squared) at exit.

Hence a relatively small round from a high velocity rifle is devastating. In an operational area I treated deceptively small wounds from AK47 rounds that had caused devastating injuries. (There are of course 50 cal rounds that would pretty much take your head off.) Military rounds often don't have much "yaw" and "tumble", but a lower velocity round can be manipulated to do all kinds of gyrations based on bullet design. A 9mm can do a whole lot of hurt.

Obviously where you strike your intended victim is also important, and I'm sure you LE guys could advise us, but the percentage shot in my book is two in the torso. I'm far less likely to miss!

In a "domestic setting" with a handgun,- I guess you want to stop someone cold - so I suppose the biggest you can handle would be my rule of thumb.

Personally I think a nice semi auto shotgun would settle most disputes.

[Remo]

I am with Neil, shotguns for most applications :tu A good .223 is always a nice option also. I carry 9mm and .45 for handguns and a pocket .380, I figure any gun in hand is better than one in your car.

[Dave128]

I'm seriously considering a pistol permit. I'm pretty sure an intruder isn't going to wait around for me to get and load my shotgun.

[Remo]

I'm seriously considering a pistol permit. I'm pretty sure an intruder isn't going to wait around for me to get and load my shotgun.

Dave,

You could move to America and the you wouldn't need a permit to have a handgun.

[Dave128]

Dave,

You could move to America and the you wouldn't need a permit to have a handgun.

I'm sure you're reply is in jest, but I'm still not sure I follow the intended joke?

[bonjing]

I think he was referring to New York's strict gun laws.

[Remo]

I think he was referring to New York's strict gun laws.

:tu

[Dave128]

:tu

Gotcha! :)

[Remo]

I'm sure you're reply is in jest, but I'm still not sure I follow the intended joke?

NY gun laws Dave.

[Dave128]

NY gun laws Dave.

NY gun laws suck.

[bonjing]

I think he was referring to New York's strict gun laws.

NY gun laws suck.

Said the guy in California :r

[G G]

I am about to purchase a M&P Shield in .40. My everyday carry is a S&W E series 1911 which i love. I have had a Beretta Tomcat .32 for about 10 years that I carry in my pocket once in a while. I recently got my PI license and in Florida even if you have a Concealed License (which I do) you can't carry with that license when you are working on a case. You have to get a Florida G Statewide firearms license. And you have to qualify with whatever caliber you are going to carry. Did that with the 1911, and will now have to do it with the .40. The .32 isn't an allowed caliber to carry so I figured I would get something that was on the list that is smaller (than my 1911) and I could fit in a pocket in a pinch.

Anyone have any experience with the 9 and the 40 shield? I was a little concerned that the recoil in such a small framed pistol in .40 would be snappy. Talked to a guy that has one and he said it wasn't a big deal.

I was able to get an awesome deal on one with my first responder discount. Looks like the pistol, and extra extended mag (for a total of three, it comes with two) shipped to my FFL and background check will be just a few dollars less than 400 bucks.

[dijit]

I dont think the recoil in that frame will be a big deal to you since yu are used to the 1911. Should be pretty similar in my opinion.

[Remo]

I have the Shield 9mm, and have yet to shoot the .40, I have heard that they are not friendly, but who knows, can you shoot one before you buy?

[G G]

I have the Shield 9mm, and have yet to shoot the .40, I have heard that they are not friendly, but who knows, can you shoot one before you buy?

Maybe, but I probably won't. If you gonna be stupid you gotta be tough I always say.:r

[Remo]

Maybe, but I probably won't. If you gonna be stupid you gotta be tough I always say.:r

You must be a tough SOB G. G :r

[G G]

You must be a tough SOB G. G :r

Yep.:):tf

[BigBruce]

I am about to purchase a M&P Shield in .40. My everyday carry is a S&W E series 1911 which i love. I have had a Beretta Tomcat .32 for about 10 years that I carry in my pocket once in a while. I recently got my PI license and in Florida even if you have a Concealed License (which I do) you can't carry with that license when you are working on a case. You have to get a Florida G Statewide firearms license. And you have to qualify with whatever caliber you are going to carry. Did that with the 1911, and will now have to do it with the .40. The .32 isn't an allowed caliber to carry so I figured I would get something that was on the list that is smaller (than my 1911) and I could fit in a pocket in a pinch.

Anyone have any experience with the 9 and the 40 shield? I was a little concerned that the recoil in such a small framed pistol in .40 would be snappy. Talked to a guy that has one and he said it wasn't a big deal.



I was able to get an awesome deal on one with my first responder discount. Looks like the pistol, and extra extended mag (for a total of three, it comes with two) shipped to my FFL and background check will be just a few dollars less than 400 bucks.


I got my shield and my ccw about the same time. I picked the shield 9mm due to cheaper rounds and more carry capacity. It is a great gun and shoots like a laser. I chose it over the xps 45.

[Chewbacca]

Big 2A supporter here! Proud CPL holder.

My EDC pistol is a Glock 23. I carry it at 4:00 in a Crossbreed SuperTuck Deluxe.

I typically have it loaded with either Federal Guard Dogs or Winchester PDX1.

[Chainsaw13]

My EDC pistol is a Glock 23. I carry it at 4:00 in a Crossbreed SuperTuck Deluxe.


What do you do for the other 23 hours! :lr

;s

[HK3-]

What do you do for the other 23 hours! :lr

;s

:r Bob that about made me spit coffee on the monitor.

[Remo]

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Nudge Nudge GG

[WaxingMoon]

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[G G]

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Nudge Nudge GG
What is it? 9mm? what kind of holster is that?
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Looking good Ed!!!!

[G G]

I was able to look at a compact M&P .40 today and although I really like it, I think the extra width will be contra-indicated for the way I want to carry it.

[Remo]

It's my 9mm shield, holster is an RDR (rounds down range) IWB

[Remo]

I was able to look at a compact M&P .40 today and although I really like it, I think the extra width will be contra-indicated for the way I want to carry it.

Ya, the compact would defeat the purpose!

[Remo]

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And a flat dark earth for the .45

[G G]

It's my 9mm shield, holster is an RDR (rounds down range) IWB
Very nice. I will check out the RDRs.
Ya, the compact would defeat the purpose!
Yeah, I really liked the way it feels in my hand but it's just too wide.
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And a flat dark earth for the .45

Nice.

[Drez]

mike got me a RDR holster for my 38 and its be great. i carry that gun 75% of the time just because of the holster.

[Steve]

:tu

I have a couple of them, use them frequently

mike got me a RDR holster for my 38 and its be great. i carry that gun 75% of the time just because of the holster.

[G G]

I was a member of floridaconcealedcarry.com when I bought my 1911 and was in need of a holster. Everyday on that forum there were folks singing praises about a holster from pantherconcealment.com. They are located in Jacksonville, Fl. They don't have a storefront and they work out of their home. They sell on the internet and a few stores in Jacksonville. I kept looking at different holsters and kept seeing the daily praises on the forum. They were giving a 10% discount to forums members as both of them are members there. I emailed them and asked a few questions. I ordered an IWB from them and I carry that 1911 full size 1911 daily with perfect comfort. Anyone that is needing a great holster at a great price and unbeatable customer service wouldn't go wrong by buying from them. I have nothing to do with their company, just wanted to put it out there for those who might need a very good holster.

[Chainsaw13]

My friend Mark showed me this place that does custom cerakote. http://blowndeadline.net

Guy does some unbelievable work. Not cheap, but pretty cool if you have the cash.

[G G]

Well I thank you all for your help and advice. I just ordered the M&P Shield in .40S&W a few minutes ago. I ordered the pistol with two extra 6 round mags to go with it. I had almost decided on the 9mm but a friend at work told me he can get ammo for a .40 (he is buying one soon) for free through a mutual friend, so I figured why not as I was leaning back toward the .40 anyway. Will let yall know what I think once I get it and fire it.:tu

[HK3-]

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Picked the one on the left up today. They sure make a cute couple. :noon

[Bax]

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picked the one on the left up today. They sure make a cute couple. :noon

purdy!!!!

[Remo]

Well I thank you all for your help and advice. I just ordered the M&P Shield in .40S&W a few minutes ago. I ordered the pistol with two extra 6 round mags to go with it. I had almost decided on the 9mm but a friend at work told me he can get ammo for a .40 (he is buying one soon) for free through a mutual friend, so I figured why not as I was leaning back toward the .40 anyway. Will let yall know what I think once I get it and fire it.:tu

Congrats!

[Remo]

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Picked the one on the left up today. They sure make a cute couple. :noon

Sweet :tu

[Brian D.]

Well I thank you all for your help and advice. I just ordered the M&P Shield in .40S&W a few minutes ago. I ordered the pistol with two extra 6 round mags to go with it. I had almost decided on the 9mm but a friend at work told me he can get ammo for a .40 (he is buying one soon) for free through a mutual friend, so I figured why not as I was leaning back toward the .40 anyway. Will let yall know what I think once I get it and fire it.:tu

You know that expression about keeping friends close, and enemies closer? Keep that free ammo friend closest of all! ;)

[mhailey]

My first AR. I'm looking forward to taking this out to the range.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34653516/photos/20160305_174011.jpg

[G G]

You know that expression about keeping friends close, and enemies closer? Keep that free ammo friend closest of all! ;)

Yessir, I plan to. LOL

I picked up a Desantis Superfly for the Shield when it gets here. Anyone have any experience with it? I had a cheap Don Hume leather pocket holster for the Beretta Tomcat. But the superfly seems to be a lot better.

Here is a link for the superfly on youtube:
https://youtu.be/bX808F5KyUI

I intend to carry the shield in a cargo pocket mostly.

[HK3-]

My first AR. I'm looking forward to taking this out to the range.

Very cool. Take her to the range and get her broke in.

[G G]

Just got the call, M&P Shield has arrived at my FFL.

[Remo]

Just got the call, M&P Shield has arrived at my FFL.

Go get it :tu

[Chainsaw13]

Just got the call, M&P Shield has arrived at my FFL.

:noon:noon:noon

[Remo]

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Found my next gun, PWS Diablo SBR

[G G]

Go get it :tu

I did. 2 seconds after I posted it was there. On duty too, so I drove to town in the ambulance like a BOSS and got it.:tu

[Steve]

:banger :banger

I did. 2 seconds after I posted it was there. On duty too, so I drove to town in the ambulance like a BOSS and got it.:tu

[G G]

First thoughts on the M&P Shield. I got it outta the box and this thing feels good in the hand, I already had pawed one in a local store but only for a minute. It does seem pretty stiff on the slide but I am sure after some rounds that will loosen up some. Although it comes with a 6 round flush fit and a 7 round extended magazine, I made the choice to go ahead and get two extra 6 round flush fit because I intend to carry this as a BUG or in a pocket and the smaller the better, and I also like to carry two spare mags. Almost all of my fingers are sore from loading up the mags because DANG those springs are stiff. I also had already bought a Desantis Superfly pocket holster for it and I like that holster. It is very sticky on the sides and it also has a velcro piece that covers the whole pistol in a pocket. You can also remove the piece for a front pocket type carry. I have carried a Beretta Tomcat .32 in a Don Hume leather pocket holster for a while in the cargo pocket of BDU type pants and even though the Shield is bigger than the Tomcat it doesn't seem to be as heavy in the pocket. The superfly holster holds the gun upright in the pocket very well. It will probably be a few days before I get to shoot it but i think I love it already.

[Brian D.]

Last weekend I picked up an M&P 9mm full size with the VTAC sights. That model also seems to include an upgraded trigger/sear package. Will never warm up to the flat dark earth finish but the sights and better internals are quite nice.

Got it low miles used from a new friend at a very good price. It shoots lights out dead on. The enhanced trigger pull accounts for a lot of that.

[G G]

Last weekend I picked up an M&P 9mm full size with the VTAC sights. That model also seems to include an upgraded trigger/sear package. Will never warm up to the flat dark earth finish but the sights and better internals are quite nice.

Got it low miles used from a new friend at a very good price. It shoots lights out dead on. The enhanced trigger pull accounts for a lot of that.

Awesome Brian.

I picked up the shield last Tuesday and haven't really had a chance to shoot it til now. I just had time to shoot a couple mags, but I gotta say that the recoil on the .40 Shield wasn't as much as I expected after reading about it in various places. It is well manageable, will take a little getting used to since I am using the 6 round mags since concealability as a BUG is what I got it for. I am used to shooting my S&W E Series 1911 45 for the last several years and haven't had a short gripped gun in a while. I don't think it will be a problem though as the gun feels like it was made for my hand even with the flush fit mags.

[HK3-]

Anyone have any new stuff in the hopper or in their sites?

Looking at getting one of the limited run Colt nineteen-03 general officer models 32acp they redid and a regular old m1911a1 made by the same company.

[Stevez]

Love to hear your thoughts on the nineteen 03 if you do go that route. I'm researching now getting the nineteen 11 defender model in .45 caliber. Have always wanted one as the full size 1911 I have isn't a good CC option. I love it, but don't want to carry it. Been packing away a few bucks here and there to get it and I'm real close.

[HK3-]

Love to hear your thoughts on the nineteen 03 if you do go that route. I'm researching now getting the nineteen 11 defender model in .45 caliber. Have always wanted one as the full size 1911 I have isn't a good CC option. I love it, but don't want to carry it. Been packing away a few bucks here and there to get it and I'm real close.

I should be picking it up in a couple more weeks and will report back when I receive it.

Defenders are nice. Those little mustangs are nice also. Laughing at the stashing away because I do the same. ;) We call it she money, money she don't know about. :r

Picked up two double barrels yesterday off a guy. Didn't need them but the price was right so I made the purchase. One is a Crescent and the other is a Springfield Stevens I think. Both are pre 1930's and all of the metal is in good shape. The stocks on the other hand….one has a crack and the other may just be loose.

[Stevez]

I should be picking it up in a couple more weeks and will report back when I receive it.

Defenders are nice. Those little mustangs are nice also. Laughing at the stashing away because I do the same. ;) We call it she money, money she don't know about. :r

Picked up two double barrels yesterday off a guy. Didn't need them but the price was right so I made the purchase. One is a Crescent and the other is a Springfield Stevens I think. Both are pre 1930's and all of the metal is in good shape. The stocks on the other hand….one has a crack and the other may just be loose.

Love that; now I have a name for my stash: "she money". She wanted me to get a hobby and I did. But, she doesn't want me to fund it! She has trouble seeing the investment potential. Guess it's like me not seeing the investment potential in her decoration ideas.

[HK3-]

Love that; now I have a name for my stash: "she money". She wanted me to get a hobby and I did. But, she doesn't want me to fund it! She has trouble seeing the investment potential. Guess it's like me not seeing the investment potential in her decoration ideas.

:r:r:r:r

[Remo]

Need some info. from you gun guys, any idea the value (ballpark) of a complete AR10 .308 Maten upper? Barrel, muzzle brake, rails, complete bolt carrier group and charging handle. Again, ballpark figure.

[dijit]

Need some info. from you gun guys, any idea the value (ballpark) of a complete AR10 .308 Maten upper? Barrel, muzzle brake, rails, complete bolt carrier group and charging handle. Again, ballpark figure.

I can look as soon as I get home. Not familiar with prices on Maten.

[Stevez]

Just purchased a Colt Defender, 1911 3 inch, semi-automatic. Don't have it in my hands yet, but it's on it's way. I settled for the .45 caliber. I have the Colt Special Combat, full size, but always wanted this gun for some reason. Easier carry option from what I read, so looking forward to receiving it.

[Remo]

Nice Steve, congrats!!

[Sugar44]

You will can never go wrong with a Colt!

[Remo]

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Here is the Mega Arms AR10 .308 complete upper I just picked up :tu

[Remo]

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[Remo]

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[bonjing]

Nice, Mike! Robared or cerakoted?

[Remo]

Cerakote

[HK3-]

Very Nice Mike.

[Brian D.]

Been building up the gun fund by selling off magazines and other accessories from firearms long gone and not missed. Spent some of it on a S&W Shield 9mm this weekend.

It's as tall and almost as long as my M&P 9c, just a bunch skinnier and lighter when loaded. The trigger on this Shield has a slight rough spot, but some use will take care of that. Seems to have less over travel than my other M&Ps.

I put a Pierce base plate extender on the 7 round mag so that my pinky has something to grab, that helped in draws, handling, and shooting.

It hits just a tad high past 10 yards or so, not really a problem.

I see why my friends like theirs.

[Remo]

Been building up the gun fund by selling off magazines and other accessories from firearms long gone and not missed. Spent some of it on a S&W Shield 9mm this weekend.

It's as tall and almost as long as my M&P 9c, just a bunch skinnier and lighter when loaded. The trigger on this Shield has a slight rough spot, but some use will take care of that. Seems to have less over travel than my other M&Ps.

I put a Pierce base plate extender on the 7 round mag so that my pinky has something to grab, that helped in draws, handling, and shooting.

It hits just a tad high past 10 yards or so, not really a problem.

I see why my friends like theirs.

Congrats! Love my shield :tu

[Preacher]

I have been thinking about a pocket gun for some time, but the choices are overwhelming. Every time I think I have settled on one, I stumble across something else. I can't really decide between .380 and 9mm (like the firepower of the 9mm, but I think the .380 would handle better). I was kinda fixed on a Ruger until I went shooting on Saturday and one of the guys had a Kahr CT380. Nice pistol with a great trigger.

[Remo]

I have a .380 bodyguard for a pocket gun, 9mm shield and a .45 compact for IWB carry and a full size 9mm.

[G G]

I love the Shield 40 I bought as well. Haven't fired it a lot yet. I have a Desantis Superfly holster and a cheap ARC appendix holster for it. I have taken to carrying it appendix as a backup to the 1911. Nothing better than carrying a gun, except carrying two guns. LOL

[SmokeyJoe]

I love the Shield 40 I bought as well. Haven't fired it a lot yet. I have a Desantis Superfly holster and a cheap ARC appendix holster for it. I have taken to carrying it appendix as a backup to the 1911. Nothing better than carrying a gun, except carrying two guns. LOL

Absolutely love my Shield 40... it is my EDC. I also have a M&P Bodyguard 380 that disappears in a pocket holster. Great for deep conceal.

[Ashcan Bill]

I have been thinking about a pocket gun for some time, but the choices are overwhelming. Every time I think I have settled on one, I stumble across something else. I can't really decide between .380 and 9mm (like the firepower of the 9mm, but I think the .380 would handle better). I was kinda fixed on a Ruger until I went shooting on Saturday and one of the guys had a Kahr CT380. Nice pistol with a great trigger.

I picked up a P3AT for use as a pocket gun. While I prefer IWB for carry, if I want something small to shove in my pocket, the little 380 is hard to beat. And there are plenty out there to try and choose from. The P3ATs don't get a lot of love, but mine has never failed to go bang when I pull the trigger.

[Stevez]

I have, and love, a Kahr CM9. Took several people shooting with it and they like it a lot and got the same thing. It is my pocket carry and because of that it's the one I carry the most. I also have the M&P 9c and that's not carried much just because I like the pocket style. I think both are great guns. Suggest going to Youtube and looking up Hickock45 who does gun reviews/demonstrations. He has one on the CM9. I personally would never buy the PM9, it's higher end brother, just because the differences are not worth the extra in my opinion. A CM9 can be had for $350. Good luck.

[Brian D.]

It's no surprise to me that there is such a divergence of opinion when it comes to "pocket carry" sized guns. Wasn't that long ago, the choices were .380/.38 special or smaller, caliber wise.

As long as I've been around firearms, I'm still willing to try new things when they come along, the learning never stops, and permanently settling on something is short-sighted, no wordplay intended.

For ME, even these little guns need a decent set of sights, but I'll leave my reasons out of this so as not to be a windbag. Point being, that takes certain offerings off the table for my use.

I would ask that those of you haven't experimented with carrying a fuller size gun at least keep an open mind, and try a few of them out too. Holsters and belts are better suited to this than not that many years back, it's way more do-able now.

[Stevez]

It's no surprise to me that there is such a divergence of opinion when it comes to "pocket carry" sized guns. Wasn't that long ago, the choices were .380/.38 special or smaller, caliber wise.

As long as I've been around firearms, I'm still willing to try new things when they come along, the learning never stops, and permanently settling on something is short-sighted, no wordplay intended.

For ME, even these little guns need a decent set of sights, but I'll leave my reasons out of this so as not to be a windbag. Point being, that takes certain offerings off the table for my use.

I would ask that those of you haven't experimented with carrying a fuller size gun at least keep an open mind, and try a few of them out too. Holsters and belts are better suited to this than not that many years back, it's way more do-able now.

I agree Brian. I did buy a nice belt specifically for carry and several really quality holsters and I have/will carry the larger guns. And, I do shoot better at longer distances no doubt. I tend to default more often to my pocket gun when wearing shorts/sweats.

[HK3-]

Picked this one up Tuesday. Not a bad looking 1911.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll115/Lvmesum3zs/IMG_3388.jpg (http://s286.photobucket.com/user/Lvmesum3zs/media/IMG_3388.jpg.html)

[Steve]

It's no surprise to me that there is such a divergence of opinion when it comes to "pocket carry" sized guns. Wasn't that long ago, the choices were .380/.38 special or smaller, caliber wise.

As long as I've been around firearms, I'm still willing to try new things when they come along, the learning never stops, and permanently settling on something is short-sighted, no wordplay intended.

For ME, even these little guns need a decent set of sights, but I'll leave my reasons out of this so as not to be a windbag. Point being, that takes certain offerings off the table for my use.

I would ask that those of you haven't experimented with carrying a fuller size gun at least keep an open mind, and try a few of them out too. Holsters and belts are better suited to this than not that many years back, it's way more do-able now.

I agree Brian. I did buy a nice belt specifically for carry and several really quality holsters and I have/will carry the larger guns. And, I do shoot better at longer distances no doubt. I tend to default more often to my pocket gun when wearing shorts/sweats.

I was amazed at the difference it made when I actually spent the money on a quality belt instead of trying to get by with a "regular" dress type belt!

[Remo]

Nice score Hal :tu

[Remo]

I was amazed at the difference it made when I actually spent the money on a quality belt instead of trying to get by with a "regular" dress type belt!

Ya, I wear a Tru-Spec belt and I love it, great belt, great price. I have a tan one for work and a black for off duty.

[G G]

Speaking of belts...... I have used a cheap 1.5 inch leather belt I bought from a leather store for years. My EDC is a Smith and Wesson E Series fullsize 1911. I did buy an awesome IWB from pantherconcealment.com and have been very happy with it. I can carry the 45 all day with no discomfort and cover it with a T-Shirt most of the time or a polo shirt with no problem. I just bought an Aker reinforced gun belt and it came in a couple days ago. I haven't had a chance to actually carry with it yet cause I am on a 48 hour shift. But I did put it on and wear it for 10 or 15 minutes while sitting and standing and it makes a huge difference.

[HK3-]

And this one today. Limited run using the old tooling.

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[M1903A1]

I'd be surprised if that really was from "the old tooling" (that they would have been sitting on since 1945) as opposed to CNC machining...that said, these M1903s and M1908s are true icons, every bit as much as an M1911. :tu

[HK3-]

I'd be surprised if that really was from "the old tooling" (that they would have been sitting on since 1945) as opposed to CNC machining...that said, these M1903s and M1908s are true icons, every bit as much as an M1911. :tu

You are probably right. Colt has licensed another company to do this along with others. It's a program they are starting to bring back some of the old stuff like the 1908.

[Steve]

So, here's something I have been wondering about for a while...appendix carry.

I realize that as I have grown older my six pack has picked up a couple of extra bottles making it more uncomfortable for me (and a lot less sexy than some of the pictures of the young female "tactical" models that are sporting it in their tight waistbands) to carry it in the appendix position. But besides the physical discomfort, it seems like carrying in the front violates the rule of muzzle management. When I carry at 4:00, if I'm drawings my weapon or in some other may manage to accidentally discharge, worst case I have powder burns on my backside and possibly donate some unneeded flesh. If that happens carrying in the front, Fred and the Flintstones are GONE! Not to mention a fairly large artery that runs nearby.

I understand that it is harder to have it taken away in the appendix position, but I can also lock it down with my strong arm while deploying a backup device if someone was able to somehow creep up undetected and make a play for it. But, as I am less likely these days of encountering close quarters battles as I once was, and am more interested in protecting my family and those around me from an active shooter, I don't worry too much about having my pistol taken from me.

So, is it just another fad, or am I missing something?

[Remo]

Steve,

I have no issue carrying either way, some people are concerned with reholstering while appendix carrying, my thought is once it is in it will stay in unless there is a need to use my weapon which is very rare when carrying concealed, if it were needed it is probably not going back in for awhile and then it will be put back in a safe manner.

Some tool bags that pull there gun out all the time to show it off, maybe they shouldn't carry appendix, but on the plus side maybe if they have a negligent discharge they won't be reproducing :tu

[Steve]

Steve,

I have no issue carrying either way...

But remember Mike, you're one of those buff young studs with a six-pack of titanium...:D

Steve,

Some tool bags that pull there gun out all the time to show it off, maybe they shouldn't carry appendix, but on the plus side maybe if they have a negligent discharge they won't be reproducing :tu

Good point, one can hope!

I guess being an FOG, I'm still kind of cautious with striker-fired guns. That's what concerns me personally about an accidental discharge. I know enough to keep my finger clear, but I still am a little mistrusting of something mechanical going wrong. Not really a rational fear these days probably, but as an older guy growing up with 1911s and revolvers...

But I'm with you, if the gun comes out, I figure it will be out for a while, and if I have to partially disrobe to put it back in the holster, what's the rush? Action will be over then :tu

[Remo]

But remember Mike, you're one of those buff young studs with a six-pack of titanium...:D



Good point, one can hope!

I guess being an FOG, I'm still kind of cautious with striker-fired guns. That's what concerns me personally about an accidental discharge. I know enough to keep my finger clear, but I still am a little mistrusting of something mechanical going wrong. Not really a rational fear these days probably, but as an older guy growing up with 1911s and revolvers...

But I'm with you, if the gun comes out, I figure it will be out for a while, and if I have to partially disrobe to put it back in the holster, what's the rush? Action will be over then :tu

That being said, I doubt I would appendix carry a 1911, my S&W or a Glock, no worries.

[Steve]

That being said, I doubt I would appendix carry a 1911, my S&W or a Glock, no worries.

:tu

[HK3-]

Made it out to the range yesterday with my parents and two of my friends. We put lots of lead down range and had a blast doing so. Took a picture of my latest wheel gun that I put my first rounds through. It shot great but I think I will enjoy it more once I get a red dot sight for it.
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[AdamJoshua]

So finally broke down and picked up a gun. After much back and forth I decided to grab a Henry Lever Action Frontier model, just for range shooting and plinking. Before I even had it I ordered the large loop for it and got them both on the same day. Today I broke it down, installed the large loop lever and now just waiting on the right dove converter for the red dot sight, it's just for range fun, but the eyes aren't what they used to be so the red dot just makes it easier to target things. Super fun gun for all ages and to quote My Cousin Vinny, it's balls on accurate, with just the iron sites. What can I say, I've had my fill of pistols and M-16s in the military (and TOWs even), now I like wheel guns and lever action rifles ... it's all very cowboys and indians.

I will say breaking it all down the first time was a bit of a pain in the ass, the videos online tend to suck, the Henry videos sucked the most actually, so there was a bit of frustration getting the lever set right with the locking bar, hopefully 2nd time around will be less so.

Next gun will be a revolver not sure what, while I love the S&W 686 (.357 / .38 special), I might go with a .22 there as well, again it's just for fun and when I go shooting I like to shoot a lot, which can get expensive with a lot of calibers. I actually wanted a Mare's Leg, but of course those are illegal in the liberal republic of California.

[Remo]

Need to get into some cowboy action shooting competition :tu

[AdamJoshua]

Well first you need the appropriate guns or have someone handy to borrow from, then you need a gun belt and holsters which holy geez those are expensive (well you know good hand tooled ones ;) ) then you need lots of ammo and fees, so you can see where this might be prohibitive having just been laid off. :lr

[Remo]

Well first you need the appropriate guns or have someone handy to borrow from, then you need a gun belt and holsters which holy geez those are expensive (well you know good hand tooled ones ;) ) then you need lots of ammo and fees, so you can see where this might be prohibitive having just been laid off. :lr

Excuses, excuses :)

[AdamJoshua]

Shh *shifty eyes*

Seriously though I have been watching vids on Youtube, looks like a lot of fun, there was one with a a kid's spring rocking horse that was the first station, they had to ride the horse and shoot at some targets, that's awesome :lr

[Remo]

Ya, never done it but it does look like fun, especially if you can smoke cigars :tu

[AdamJoshua]

at least a cheroot ala the man with no name

[G G]

since I bought the M&P Shield I have been appendix carrying it most of the time I carry it. I don't have any concerns at all so far.

[czerbe]

since I bought the M&P Shield I have been appendix carrying it most of the time I carry it. I don't have any concerns at all so far.

I bought the Springfield XDS in 9mm and I have been trying to appendix carry and it just isn't working out. It rubs hard on my gut when I sit or drive. Standing or walking I'm fine. Maybe I need to drop 20lbs and see if that makes a difference. LOL -(P

[Remo]

17004

What! M&P Shield in .45.....my next gun :wo

[Steve]

17004

What! M&P Shield in .45.....my next gun :wo

That's a lot of bang in a light frame...but, it's not exactly a range gun I guess :)

[Remo]

That's a lot of bang in a light frame...but, it's not exactly a range gun I guess :)

That's what she said :r

[Steve]

That's what she said :r

:hy

[Remo]

You live in Chicago and are just now concerned for your safety? :)

[dijit]

You live in Chicago and are just now concerned for your safety? :)

What ^^^ said!

[bonjing]

Does Chicago have/issue CCW? I thought it was just as bad as San Francisco.

Couple of new (to me) toys, finally have a Ruger MKIII and a G43.

[357]

I think any law requiring just cause to exercise a right enshrined in Constitution overtly oppressive.

Do you need to prove a need to exercise any other Constitutionally protected right?

The D.C. "may issue" law requiring just cause was ruled unconstitutional.

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/legal/breaking-washington-d-c-may-issue-handgun-carry-license-law-unconstitutional-rules-federal-court-today/

[dijit]

Does Chicago have/issue CCW? I thought it was just as bad as San Francisco.

Couple of new (to me) toys, finally have a Ruger MKIII and a G43.

To hear the Mayor of Chicago tell it there are no firearm issues in Chicago. Its all indiana's fault.

[357]

Michigan has open carry written into the state constitution. We've been more free than Texas concerning carrying of firearms since 2001. However, in Texas you can use lethal force to defend property. That's not the case in Michigan unless you're occupying that property (house/car).

[G G]

I bought the Springfield XDS in 9mm and I have been trying to appendix carry and it just isn't working out. It rubs hard on my gut when I sit or drive. Standing or walking I'm fine. Maybe I need to drop 20lbs and see if that makes a difference. LOL -(P

I bought the Blackhawk ARC holster for mine. It is adjustable for ride height with two adjustments. I put it in the high ride at first and it printed a lot, because my gut pushed it out. Changed it to low ride and it works pretty good. It does get a little uncomfortable while sitting at times but not too bad so far.

[Remo]

Just ordered my .45 Shield :wo

[Remo]

17109


Going to buy another .223, need help deciding. All things being equal what do you guys like, FDE Magpul as pictured?

[Remo]

17111

Black Magpul

[Remo]

17112

Or black tactical?

[afranco]

The black tactical has my vote

[bonjing]

I'd go tan, if you don't have tan. But I'd think tan would get dirty.

[Remo]

I'd go tan, if you don't have tan. But I'd think tan would get dirty.

I am ok with dirt. :tu

[HK3-]

I like both but leaning more towards the tactical.

[dijit]

I vote for the magpul set up. While the tac looks cool its definitely not friendly to the hands when out shooting. I am about to build my next AR and cant wait to finish it. Once I am done I just need to find a nice trijicon to go on top!

[Chainsaw13]

While I like the look of the tactical, the little I've used an AR with guard like that, the sharp corners can be a pain. My vote would be for the black Magpul.

[Remo]

While I like the look of the tactical, the little I've used an AR with guard like that, the sharp corners can be a pain. My vote would be for the black Magpul.

My othe gun is railed, nice for putting furniture on but I do use a vertical foregrip. I actually like the set up of the magpul ones.

[DPD6030]

I don't think I mentioned I picked up a stainless Springfield 1911 .45 DU special edition, a Rugar American .308 rifle and a TriStar over/under 12 gauge.

[Chainsaw13]

With that said, I put the Vltor guard on my AR. Thinking I might sell though, it's quite heavy. When I was hog hunting a couple months ago, one of their guns had a stock guard and it was much lighter.

[Bill86]

Just bought a S&W 686 Plus, the 7 shot .357 magnum. I kinda want to get a .308 AR-10.....

[s15driftking]

Very cool thread. I know have been gone for a while. But this is great to see.

Started competing in Long Range comps. Just did my 5th one!

[Remo]

Very cool thread. I know have been gone for a while. But this is great to see.

Started competing in Long Range comps. Just did my 5th one!

Cool, what long range gun are you shooting?

[s15driftking]

Cool, what long range gun are you shooting?

I compete with an Accuracy International AXMC with a 308 barrel currently. Premier Heritage Optic. Spuhr Mount. And LRA bipod. Current load is 175g Sierra tipped Matchking with 44.5g of varget going 2720 out the muzzle.

I also shoot a .408 CheyTac M200 :)

[Remo]

I compete with an Accuracy International AXMC with a 308 barrel currently. Premier Heritage Optic. Spuhr Mount. And LRA bipod. Current load is 175g Sierra tipped Matchking with 44.5g of varget going 2720 out the muzzle.

I also shoot a .408 CheyTac M200 :)

Nice, reach out and touch someone stuff :tu

[s15driftking]

Nice, reach out and touch someone stuff :tu

Yes sir! I also dabble in the NFA world. As I see you do as well. I have s couple MG's, handful of cans, and a few SBR's.

[s15driftking]

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Cigars and guns!