MLB 2012 Thread

[CigarSquid]

Opening on the road, don't agree with that. Just means the A's need to stomp there in Detroit and finish at home for the fans.

[icehog3]

Even though I am a Tigers fan, I disagree with the league having the higher seeded teams start on the road. Gives the underdog team a better chance to take a 2-0 lead to the favorite's barn.

Which is exactly what I hope the Tigers do to the A's.

[mahtofire14]

I don't like it either. I don't particularly agree with the new wild card set up. I think Atlanta got screwed last night. Yeah they lost the game, but they had a much better season than St Louis and now they're out after one game. Tough ending a whole season on one game. Just my two cents. My Twins weren't anywhere near the whole thing so what difference does it make?:sh

[Ahbroody]

Even though I am a Tigers fan, I disagree with the league having the higher seeded teams start on the road. Gives the underdog team a better chance to take a 2-0 lead to the favorite's barn.

Which is exactly what I hope the Tigers do to the A's.

Underdog? Most I have seen don't think the Tigers are the underdog. How can a team composed of a large number of AAA ball players at season start and the lowest salary in the major leagues be the favorite? For a large number of these kids its there first year and first post season experience. I have heard many think they may fold if they go down 0-1. Which is a very strong possibility. Is Tiger media trying to play the underdog card?

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Interesting wild card games. I'm liking the A's or O's to advance and the Cards or Giants for the NL.

[icehog3]

Underdog? Most I have seen don't think the Tigers are the underdog. How can a team composed of a large number of AAA ball players at season start and the lowest salary in the major leagues be the favorite? For a large number of these kids its there first year and first post season experience. I have heard many think they may fold if they go down 0-1. Which is a very strong possibility. Is Tiger media trying to play the underdog card?

I'm in Chicago, so I don't know, Mike.

I based favorite on better record overall, better record in September, better record in close games. I guess I should have said "lower seeded" rather than favorite. Let's Go Red Wings! :lr

[kelmac07]

In guessing Tigers vs Nationals World Series. :2

Anyone but the Yankees & Giants. :D

[shilala]

I'm pulling for the Tigers, but I think the A's have the edge across the board.
If the Tigers play like they should, it's no contest. They haven't all year.
The A's have just been solid. If they don't know they can lose, they're going to give the Tigers big trouble. If the Tigers go to the bullpen early, I'll be scared to death, and the A's have hit Tigers pitching well this year.
I honestly think that whichever team takes this evening's game will take the series, and pretty handily at that.

If I was betting, I'd say New York vs. San Fran, New York in 5 games.
And that'd suck. Ass.

[The Poet]

Interesting wild card games. I'm liking the A's or O's to advance and the Cards or Giants for the NL.

In guessing Tigers vs Nationals World Series. :2

Anyone but the Yankees & Giants. :D


Which is basically indicative of what p!$$es me off so much here. Seems like it's OK for people to be fans of any team they wish, as long as they hate the Yankees. It's BS, of the first filthy water.

Yeah, Mac, I know you're just "yankin' " the chain, but too many are serious about that. I'm totally sick of it, and am NOT gonna take it anymore. :mad: :gary

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Which is basically indicative of what p!$$es me off so much here. Seems like it's OK for people to be fans of any team they wish, as long as they hate the Yankees. It's BS, of the first filthy water.

Yeah, Mac, I know you're just "yankin' " the chain, but too many are serious about that. I'm totally sick of it, and am NOT gonna take it anymore. :mad: :gary

you forgot to quote Scott;)

[icehog3]

I'm pulling for the Tigers, but I think the A's have the edge across the board.
If the Tigers play like they should, it's no contest. They haven't all year.

True dat.

If the Tigers go to the bullpen early, I'll be scared to death,

Yup.

and the A's have hit Tigers pitching well this year.
I honestly think that whichever team takes this evening's game will take the series, and pretty handily at that.


Could be right as well, Scott.

Which is basically indicative of what p!$$es me off so much here. Seems like it's OK for people to be fans of any team they wish, as long as they hate the Yankees. It's BS, of the first filthy water.

Yeah, Mac, I know you're just "yankin' " the chain, but too many are serious about that. I'm totally sick of it, and am NOT gonna take it anymore. :mad: :gary

Why do you take it so personally? If someone hates the Tigers, The Blackhawks, The Gators, it's no affront to me personally. Have a cigar and chill out, Brother.

[CigarSquid]

Go A's! That's all I have to say for now.

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Prince3.jpg

[kelmac07]

Tom...you really need to find a new picture. :D

[CigarSquid]

Yes, something more like this....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/niSssEanR/OneDayAll.jpg

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Prince2.png

[CigarSquid]

That picture may be worse.. It has Young in there!

[icehog3]

That picture may be worse.. It has Young in there!

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/DelmonYoung.png

[CigarSquid]

How about the guy in the middle of that pile.. You recognize him?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/niSssEanR/brandon-inge.jpg

Or doing the................
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/niSssEanR/IngeCocoBernie.jpg

[Loon]

Which is basically indicative of what p!$$es me off so much here. Seems like it's OK for people to be fans of any team they wish, as long as they hate the Yankees. It's BS, of the first filthy water.

Yeah, Mac, I know you're just "yankin' " the chain, but too many are serious about that. I'm totally sick of it, and am NOT gonna take it anymore. :mad: :gary

http://elsmar.com/jpg/hold%20breath.jpg

[markem]

Which is basically indicative of what p!$$es me off so much here. Seems like it's OK for people to be fans of any team they wish, as long as they hate the Yankees. It's BS, of the first filthy water.

Yeah, Mac, I know you're just "yankin' " the chain, but too many are serious about that. I'm totally sick of it, and am NOT gonna take it anymore. :mad: :gary

Man, if only the Yankees had this kind of determination and backbone.

[icehog3]

How about the guy in the middle of that pile.. You recognize him?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/niSssEanR/brandon-inge.jpg

Or doing the................
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/niSssEanR/IngeCocoBernie.jpg

Love me some Inge. ;)

[CigarSquid]

I love him being on our team. Great player, great guy. Sure am missing him playing.. The more help, the better.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

omg Yankees suck:noon:noon

[icehog3]

I remember him hitting a grand slam in his first game as an A Vs. the Tigers.

Liked the outcome of that game even better. :)

[icehog3]

omg Yankees suck:noon:noon

:po

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

If the Tigers play the Yankees, I will root for the Tigers easily:noon:noon:D:D

[CigarSquid]

I remember him hitting a grand slam in his first game as an A Vs. the Tigers.

Liked the outcome of that game even better. :)

So do I. I was at the 2nd game of the series, sitting behind home plate in Oakland. Inge steps to the on deck spot, I tell him, 'make them sorry for trading you' He looks up and just smiles.

Seems like a class A guy.

[CigarSquid]

If the Tigers play the Yankees, I will root for the Tigers easily:noon:noon:D:D

I agree!

:cf2

[icehog3]

So do I. I was at the 2nd game of the series, sitting behind home plate in Oakland. Inge steps to the on deck spot, I tell him, 'make them sorry for trading you' He looks up and just smiles.

Seems like a class A guy.

Definitely. :tu

[icehog3]

Off to watch the game....I'll check in if it gets out of hand eithr way, otherwise, see y'all afterwards.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Tigers.jpg

[bobarian]

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh150/bigmagico/YankeesSuck7.jpg

[CigarSquid]

Not a big Boston fan either. Glad they fell apart this year.

[kelmac07]

Indians name Francona as next manager.

[CigarSquid]

Just seen that. See what he can do there.

[Ahbroody]

I'm in Chicago, so I don't know, Mike.

I based favorite on better record overall, better record in September, better record in close games. I guess I should have said "lower seeded" rather than favorite. Let's Go Red Wings! :lr

I know where you live buddy. I got your address and ain't affraid to use it. Redwings? Odd for a Hawks fan. Seem to recall the Chant "Detroit Sucks" starting there.


What a focking joke of a game Reynolds is calling. Verlander doesn't even have to throw strikes. I like how they stopped showing 3rd strike replay calls as their have been some horrible called 3rd strikes.

[CigarSquid]

I know where you live buddy. I got your address and ain't affraid to use it. Redwings? Odd for a Hawks fan. Seem to recall the Chant "Detroit Sucks" starting there.


What a focking joke of a game Reynolds is calling. Verlander doesn't even have to throw strikes. I like how they stopped showing 3rd strike replay calls as their have been some horrible called 3rd strikes.

Right? What a joke. Horrible calls on some of those strikes.

[alloy]

So the Nats don't have any fanboys on here at all?

[CigarSquid]

So the Nats don't have any fanboys on here at all?

I like Gio.

[icehog3]

I cringed when Benoit came in in the 8th, and he missed making it 3-3 by two feet.

Start the Tigers needed, hoping Fister can keep it going tomorrow.

[icehog3]

Cueto out with an injury with one out in the bottom of the 1st. :hn

[jonumberone]

What a focking joke of a game Reynolds is calling. Verlander doesn't even have to throw strikes. I like how they stopped showing 3rd strike replay calls as their have been some horrible called 3rd strikes.

I have to agree here!
Justin Verlander was the first man to ever get a handjob from 60ft 6inches away. -(P
You can't get down on the A's, all any team is looking for is a split.
You lose game one, on the road, with the other teams ace on the hill, not the end of the world.
Just make sure you get game 2!
:tf:tf

Nice job by the Reds, last night.
You lose your ace, in the first, on the road and still manage pull out a win.
Seeing him leave the mound brought back all the bad memories of the 03 World Series, game 5, when David Wells bailed on the Yanks.

Gonna make sure I have fresh batteries in the remote today!
Between NFL and 4 MLB games, I plan on doing a lot of channel changing. :D

[CigarSquid]

Tigers got some good crappy calls. A's were not hitting regardless of the calls. Need to swing the bat to preform like they were. I agree, It wasn't a huge beat by the Tigers and they hung in there for a bit against one of the best pitchers in MLB. Need to bounce back strong this game and get there fans and them self's pumped up for returning to Oakland!

I didn't watch much of the Reds/Giants game.. Dislike Giants. Way to go Reds!

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

I know where you live buddy. I got your address and ain't affraid to use it. Redwings? Odd for a Hawks fan. Seem to recall the Chant "Detroit Sucks" starting there.


What a focking joke of a game Reynolds is calling. Verlander doesn't even have to throw strikes. I like how they stopped showing 3rd strike replay calls as their have been some horrible called 3rd strikes.

I saw one strike 3 called on Verlander's fastball and it was up by the batters neck almost:sh

[CigarSquid]

There was more than that one.. haha

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

There was more than that one.. haha

I didn't watch the whole game so I only caught a few bad calls, but from what I hear I don't doubt there were more.

[theonlybear4CORT]

Well it looks like Detroit is using the A's as batting practice!

[kelmac07]

Great game this afternoon.

[icehog3]

Don Kelly....once again the unlikely Hero. Tigers just need to take one of 3 in Oakland, though I hope they win Game 3 and save their pitching for the winner of NY-Baltimore.

[Ahbroody]

Faaaaaaaaaack

It appears over. Hopefully Giants can get through.

[kelmac07]

Another great game. Hard to believe the Cardinals couldn't take advantage of Gios seven walks.

[CigarSquid]

Well it looks like Detroit is using the A's as batting practice!

same for the reds right this inning.

[VirtualSmitty]

Yankees rallied against a great closer last night to take it! :noon

[alloy]

Go Nats!!!!

[Islayphile]

:D

[kelmac07]

Are the Giants even gonna show up this series?

[Ahbroody]

It appears not.

[CigarSquid]

Are the Giants even gonna show up this series?

I don't think so!

[357]

How about the guy in the middle of that pile.. You recognize him?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/niSssEanR/brandon-inge.jpg

Or doing the................
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/niSssEanR/IngeCocoBernie.jpg

I used to think Inge was a good guy but he made a number of really shady statements. Basically blamed his poor performance, for the past 2-3 years, on lack of consistent playing time, weather, and the toothfairy. He WAS a huge fan favorite before he started that crap. By the end he had turned loyal fans against him. It eventually got so bad he was booed every time he took the plate. I hate to say it but I too like him and was turned off by his statements. Glad he's gone. Good luck with him.

What a focking joke of a game Reynolds is calling. Verlander doesn't even have to throw strikes. I like how they stopped showing 3rd strike replay calls as their have been some horrible called 3rd strikes.

:sh :D I don't know what you're talking about. I watched the game. Sure there were a few questionable calls on balls/strikes but so many people take the stupid box graphic as gospel. Please don't. IMO it's usually indicitive as to where the ball's at when it's caught, not when it was over the plate.

[pnoon]

... so many people take the stupid box graphic as gospel. Please don't. IMO it's usually indicitive of nothing.

fixed!

[357]

Thanks Peter.:)

[icehog3]

Yeah, those box graphics are a complete joke. :2

Let's Go 8, Sanchez!

[CigarSquid]

If any team can get 3 in a row.. Oakland, at home!

Let's go Oakland, Lets go!!

[icehog3]

If any team can get 3 in a row.. Oakland, at home!

Let's go Oakland, Lets go!!

How confident are you? Lil wager? ;)

[CigarSquid]

Wager? Name it..(I have no CC)

[357]

Wager? Name it..(I have no CC)

Did he take the wind out of your sails Tom?

[icehog3]

Did he take the wind out of your sails Tom?

Wager? Name it..(I have no CC)

Nope, at work.

5'er of NCs, Garry?

[CigarSquid]

I'm in! Certain value?

[icehog3]

I'm in! Certain value?

I've got some Viajes, Illusiones, Pepins, 601s, stuff like that....good but not crazy? That work?

[icehog3]

One for your guys, Garry....superbly pitched game by the A's....only 5 balls out of the infield all game, 3 singles and two robberies of Prince. Sanchez pitched great, A's just pitched better.

[CigarSquid]

Anderson.. Imagine if he was there all season! I didn't get to watch the game, I had my own to play. Watched the high lights.. Did Prince get screwed or what?

[icehog3]

Anderson.. Imagine if he was there all season! I didn't get to watch the game, I had my own to play. Watched the high lights.. Did Prince get screwed or what?

Screwed? Nah....Crisp made a great catch on a home run ball, but he had a bead on it the entire way. Cepedes made a nice diving grab of what could have been a pop single.

I was really impressed by Anderson's ability to get the ground ball outs. Glad he is done pitching for the season now. ;) :r

[357]

Screwed? Nah....Crisp made a great catch on a home run ball, but he had a bead on it the entire way. Cepedes made a nice diving grab of what could have been a pop single.

I was really impressed by Anderson's ability to get the ground ball outs. Glad he is done pitching for the season now. ;) :r

Amen to that. I hope Scherzer is dealing tonight.

[icehog3]

Amen to that. I hope Scherzer is dealing tonight.

Yup, 'cause I don't wanna see Benoit or Coke if possible. ;)

[357]

Yup, 'cause I don't wanna see Benoit or Coke if possible. ;)

I thought Leyland played with fire again. He sent Coke out to face righties for the second game in a row. Righties are hitting what .430 against him this year? He's figgen killing me with that stuff. :hn

[icehog3]

Yup, Leyland's pitching choices have been questionable....specially continuing to use Benoit in the 8th, when it seems like he gives up a home run 2 out of every 3 appearances the last month.

[CigarSquid]

Go A's!

[theonlybear4CORT]

Good luck A's

[CigarSquid]

One of the best teams to pull off a 3 game win at home!

I really didn't think the Giants would win today and for sure, not by that much.

[CigarSquid]

He was due for that homer.

[Ahbroody]

Ooooooooo damn.

[CigarSquid]

What a game!? They live to fight another day! Let's Go Oakland!

Such great motivation to bust up a closer like that.

[icehog3]

Great comeback by the A's, a heartbreaker for a Tiger's fan like me.

The bad news: The A's have all the momentum, and the emotion.

The good news: The Tigers have maybe the top pitcher in baseball to pitch Game 5.

The Tigers' big bats aren't inspiring much confidence in me right now. I think to pull it off, they will need a big performance from Verlander, and a couple of role players to come up big. Oh, and maybe Benoit to get lost on his way to the ballpark. :r

[icehog3]

My wish for Hero of the Day for 10/11/12:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Verlander.jpg

[kelmac07]

O's blew a big one last night.

[CigarSquid]

A's need to knock him out early. This needs to be one of their blow out games!

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

It's in Detroit right? If so, Tigers win:2

[CigarSquid]

Nope, it's Oakland.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Nope, it's Oakland.

Well that changes things IMO. No way the A's would take game 5 in Detroit. But in Oakland, I see the A's pulling it out.

[357]

Well that changes things IMO. No way the A's would take game 5 in Detroit. But in Oakland, I see the A's pulling it out.

In JV we trust. I'm hoping hit throws a CG shutout. NO BULLPEN. Although the only BP pitcher that failed yesterday was Papa Grande.

[Islayphile]

O's blew a big one last night.

It was glorious

[CigarSquid]

In JV we trust. I'm hoping hit throws a CG shutout. NO BULLPEN. Although the only BP pitcher that failed yesterday was Papa Grande.

Complete game shutout? No way!

[big pete]

Go Giants!! I'm still hoping for another Battle of the Bay.

[357]

Complete game shutout? No way!

Yeah, it's not like he's ever done that before. :rolleyes:

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Verlander.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/BuddyJesus.jpg

"You go, J.V.!" - J.C.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Just hope Justin doesn't pitch like he did in the All Star game this year:r

[icehog3]

Just hope Justin doesn't pitch like he did in the All Star game this year:r

About as much chance of that as of Benoit making the All Star team next year. :r

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

About as much chance of that as of Benoit making the All Star team next year. :r

Yeah he'll pitch good I'm sure. His innings pitched have to be very high now, no?

[icehog3]

Yeah he'll pitch good I'm sure. His innings pitched have to be very high now, no?

Doesn't seem to be a factor with him in the least. Pitches 120+ most games too.

Giants preparing to have a Tigersesque meltdown in the bottom of the 9th.

[icehog3]

I am nervous. That is all.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Don't worry Tom. I don't see the A's running away with this game. It will be a close one for sure.

[CigarSquid]

Verlander getting the outside on lefties.... WOW.

[CigarSquid]

Send me your addy.

[357]

Tigers go to the ALCS!!!! :wo

[icehog3]

Verlander getting the outside on lefties.... WOW.

A's got it too. ;)

Great season for the A's...I am truly impressed with their young pitching staff. They will be right back in the mix next season.

One game? I'll take Verlander. He's got this.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Verlander2.jpg

[alloy]

Jason "Bang Zoom Game Saving Season Saving" Werth!!!!!!!!!
GoNats!!!

[CigarSquid]

I think he got away with more calls than the A's.. Still no excuse for a shut out.. They watched way to many balls go by.

[357]

I think he got away with more calls than the A's.. Still no excuse for a shut out.. They watched way to many balls go by.

He did but only because he was attacking that spot. IMO they were strikes. When the A's pitchers threw to the same spot it was called the same way. Will balls and strikes the best you can ask for is consistency. JV was sick, really at his best last night.

On a side note I was surprised how many stolen bases the A's gave up. It's unusual for the Tigers to have 3 stolen bases in a week, let alone one game.

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Verlander4-1.jpg

[icehog3]

C.C matches Verlander's performance.

Yankees - Tigers. Should be a good series. Let's Go Tigers.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Verlander3.jpg

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Looks like I'm rooting for the Tigers:D

[CigarSquid]

I guess for now, let's go tigers.

[kelmac07]

O's had this series won...:bh :bh Let's go Tigers!!

[jonumberone]

C.C matches Verlander's performance.

Yankees - Tigers. Should be a good series. Let's Go Tigers.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Verlander3.jpg

Interested in a little action? :su

:D

[CigarSquid]

Nationals all the way baby!

[CigarSquid]

There ya go.. Start it off right.

[icehog3]

Nationals all the way baby!

Nope.

Interested in a little action? :su

:D

Yup.

Glad to have you on board Nate, Mac, Garry. :wnr

[CigarSquid]

I quit. I am just going against the Giants and Yankees at this point.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Hoping to see Tigers vs Cards WS.

[CigarSquid]

Hoping to see Tigers vs Cards WS.

:tu

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Think about how bad of a World Series it would be if it was Yankees vs Giants:r:r

[688sonarmen]

Unreal...

The Nats had a GREAT season and while I'm not sure if this tops last year it's bittersweet to see it go down in D.C like that.

[icehog3]

Hoping to see Tigers vs Cards WS.

I 'd love a repeat of 1968! :wo

2006, not so much. :lr

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

I 'd love a repeat of 1968! :wo

2006, not so much. :lr

Yeah 06 was not so good for the Tigers:D

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

06 was crazy though Tom. Tigers were stacked and my pick to win for sure. The Cards just went into that series and surprised everyone.

[jonumberone]

Interested in a little action? :su

:D


Yup.


5er for the series? Or would you like to up the stakes? You decide.
Just so you know up front, I don't have any mini monsters to send you if you win! ;)

Fun fact I heard on the radio yesterday: This was the first time the Yankees got out of the first round since 2001, when they didn't play the Twins

It will be nice to play the Tigers in a 7 game series instead of 5.
I don't know if the Yanks announced their rotation yet, but I expect they will throw CC, on short rest in game 3, opposite Verlander.
This will set up CC and Justin to pitch game 7, on full rest.

Can't wait for tonight!

[kelmac07]

How in the hell do you blow a 6-0 lead at home?? :bh :bh

[CigarSquid]

How in the hell do you blow a 6-0 lead at home?? :bh :bh

I changed the TV when it was 6-4. Thinking I wouldn't miss anything. Wife said turn it back..

Seen the high lights.. Thought the same thing...

[icehog3]

5er for the series? Or would you like to up the stakes? You decide.
Just so you know up front, I don't have any mini monsters to send you if you win! ;)

Fun fact I heard on the radio yesterday: This was the first time the Yankees got out of the first round since 2001, when they didn't play the Twins

It will be nice to play the Tigers in a 7 game series instead of 5.
I don't know if the Yanks announced their rotation yet, but I expect they will throw CC, on short rest in game 3, opposite Verlander.
This will set up CC and Justin to pitch game 7, on full rest.

Can't wait for tonight!

5'er works for me, Dom, making the stakes too high sometimes takes the fun out of it for me. I'd rather it be about my team than cigars. :)

It is CC Vs. Justin for Game 3 in Detroit.

Tigers are:
Fister
Sanchez
Verlander
Scherzer
Fister
Sanchez
Verlander

NYY are:
Petitte
TBD
CC
TBD
TBD
TBD
TBD (right, lol)

[jonumberone]

Fiver it is! :tu

Let's go Yanks!!

[jonumberone]

The way the Yanks set up the rotation may be what makes or breaks this series.
CC has to go 3 and 7.
Do you go Andy 1 and 5? 1 and 6?
Kuroda game 2 on short rest and game 6 full rest? Or pitch him game 4?
If Kuroda doesn't go game 2, who does?

If it were up to me
Andy
Lowe
CC
Kuroda
Hughes
Andy
CC

Figure game 2 some combination of Lowe and phelps getting the yanks thru 5 and heavy bullpen after that. Girardi can lean on the pen game 2 with an off day after.

I really didn't care about the ALDS starting on the road, but forcing the #1 seed to not have an off day, and thus have to use 5 starters, when their opponent only has to use 4, is a huge disadvantage.
It allows the Tigers to carry an extra arm in their pen.
I'm not gonna ***** too much because the Yanks had the opportunity to win game 4, and avoid this, but they still got a bit of a raw deal.

[shilala]

So, last night I'm talking to Davey Johnson through the tv right after Descalso ties the game, "Storen's got nothing, brother. You gotta bring in a pitcher just to break momentum." I figured a trip to the mound would have got it done if he wanted to stay with Storen, but he already used up his trip.
I really didn't think Storen couldn't get it done, but after seeing the look on Beltran's face earlier, I knew the Cards weren't the least bit afraid of him after seeing him two nights previous.
Then Kozma carries his balls of steel to the plate, game over.
What an awesome game. I'm still excited about it, and I couldn't get to sleep till 4:00 in the morning thinking about it.
This postseason has been incredible, to say the least. :tu

[Ahbroody]

Was tough to see As knocked out. Really thought they would will themselves. Not a Yankee fan, but can't cheer for Tigers. Hope the Giants can take out the birds.

[icehog3]

Was tough to see As knocked out. Really thought they would will themselves. Not a Yankee fan, but can't cheer for Tigers. Hope the Giants can take out the birds.

Sure ya can...just give it a little go. :lr

[CigarSquid]

I am rooting for the Tigers.. But if they give this game up.. It may be the first time in my life I root for the Yankees. They had better find a new closer.. He screwed game 4 in Oakland as well.

[Mattso3000]

Wow...come on Tigers you're killing me.

[Gophernut]

Was tough to see As knocked out. Really thought they would will themselves. Not a Yankee fan, but can't cheer for Tigers. Hope the Giants can take out the birds.

I hear ya. I just can't bring myself to root for either team. I just don't think I can root for the Tigers, and I know I can't root for the Yankees. Oh well, one of these teams can lose to whichever NL team makes it to the World Series.:confused:

[Mattso3000]

I hear ya. I just can't bring myself to root for either team. I just don't think I can root for the Tigers, and I know I can't root for the Yankees. Oh well, one of these teams can lose to whichever NL team makes it to the World Series.:confused:

Can't say Im rooting for the Tigers...I guess I just hate them a little less than the yankees.

[Gophernut]

Can't say Im rooting for the Tigers...I guess I just hate them a little less than the yankees.

That does about sum it up. But the difference between the two teams to me is very small. Almost undefinable...

[CigarSquid]

Can't say Im rooting for the Tigers...I guess I just hate them a little less than the yankees.

:tpd:

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Can't say Im rooting for the Tigers...I guess I just hate them a little less than the yankees.

Yeah, you could say I'm in this boat. I guess any fans of AL Central teams other than the Tigers would be right?:r

[Mattso3000]

Yeah, you could say I'm in this boat. I guess any fans of AL Central teams other than the Tigers would be right?:r

True. I guess the only team i like less than the yankees is the white sox:D

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

True. I guess the only team i like less than the yankees is the white sox:D

You would root for the Tigers over the Sox? I know why though:D

[icehog3]

Crazy. Valverde with the epic fail again. Ibanez just amazing. Misplay by Swisher, some great relief by a first time in the post-season pitcher (Smyly), and the Tigers are up 1-0. I'll take it. :)

I do feel terrible for Derek Jeter....just a ballplayer's ballplayer, I would rather have the Tigers win with Jeter playing.

[CigarSquid]

I didn't watch anything after the game... Did they say exactly what Jeter did to his ankle?

[backyardcigar]

espn is saying jeter is out for the season. Ibanez is probably the only good thing the yankees have to rely on since A-rod can't do squat.

[icehog3]

I didn't watch anything after the game... Did they say exactly what Jeter did to his ankle?

Fractured ankle....3 month recovery.

[icehog3]

Sabathia now scheduled to pitch Game 4 Vs. Scherzer instead of Game 3. CC and Verlander will only meet if the series goes 7.

[kelmac07]

Glad to see the Tigers "pull" this one out after Valverde blows another one. Hate to see Jeter get hurt...the ONLY Yankee I have ever admired.

[CigarSquid]

Sucks for Jeter. I know how I am for softball.. and to miss games, let alone the playoffs!

How much you think it affects the Yankees?

[CigarSquid]

Glad to see the Tigers "pull" this one out after Valverde blows another one. Hate to see Jeter get hurt...the ONLY Yankee I have ever admired.

Jeter seems like a good guy.. I hate him for the fact he is a Yankee, but a great ball player.. Never to much trouble. I don't mind Swisher, since he once was a A's

[kelmac07]

Sucks for Jeter. I know how I am for softball.. and to miss games, let alone the playoffs!

How much you think it affects the Yankees?

Seeing how Jeter, Ichiro and Ibanez have been the only consistent performers this postseason...it's a HUGE blow to the Yankees. A-Rod, Granderson and Texiera are gonna have to step it up if the Yankees are gonna win this series.

[CigarSquid]

A-Rod... haha. Good one.

[icehog3]

Press in Detroit is calling for a new closer for the Tigers. Valverde has given up the last 7 runs against the Tigers, all with a Tigers' lead in the 9th innings.

[CigarSquid]

Press in Detroit is calling for a new closer for the Tigers. Valverde has given up the last 7 runs against the Tigers, all with a Tigers' lead in the 9th innings.

I agree.

Or, just do this.. see if it works... :gary

[icehog3]

I agree.

Or, just do this.. see if it works... :gary

Yup, if the managing stays the same and the Tigers' bullpen blows this series, Leyland might get one of those from Dombrowski and Illitch. :2

[gorob23]

Let's Go Giants..... :tu

Rob ;s

[CigarSquid]

I want to see Cards and Tigers.

[icehog3]

ESPN.com:

NEW YORK -- Jose Valverde won't close for the Detroit Tigers in Game 2 of the AL Championship Series but manager Jim Leyland says the reliever is keeping his role for now.

"I guess that sounds like I am mud watching, but I am really not. I still consider him the closer, but he will not close the game," Leyland said. "We will do some work with him."

[CigarSquid]

I missed the Tigers/Yankees game today.. Watching some of the replays.. WOW is all I can say.

Now, Lets go Cards!

[kelmac07]

This might be a quick series.

[theonlybear4CORT]

Lets go Oakland oh wait they ain't playing :p

LET'S GO GIANTS THE ONLY BAY AREA TEAM STILL PLAYING.

[CigarSquid]

We will see for how long...

[kelmac07]

Looks like poetic justice for the Cards tonight...blowing a 6-0 lead an all.

[CigarSquid]

Looks like poetic justice for the Cards tonight...blowing a 6-0 lead an all.

I was just talking with the wife about that.

[688sonarmen]

Looks like poetic justice for the Cards tonight...blowing a 6-0 lead an all.

Beltran is still in the game, nothing is blown yet.

[icehog3]

Best angle yet of the Infante - Cano play at 2nd base:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JIHAzU5ylc

If the Yankees had scored a run, it would have been a travesty.,.instead, it's just a footnote. Great pitching by Sanchez and Coke sealed the 2-0 series lead.

Looking forward to seeing JV pitch on Tuesday.

[jonumberone]

I'm not going to complain about the play a second.
Yes it was a bad call, and yes, it changed the dynamic of the game,
but when your team can't score a run, who cares about a bad call at second?

I've never been more disgusted with this ball club, than I was yesterday!
You would think they would want to go out there and win one for their captain, who more than likely picked each and everyone of their sorry asses up when they failed.
Or perhaps they would want to go out and score a run or two to support their teammate Kuroda, who was pitching his heart out, on short rest, for the first time in his career.
Or maybe you would think they would want to go out and score some runs because they had a tiny bit of self respect and competitiveness left inside them.
I don't want to knock Sanchez, he pitched a great game, but he's not Verlander.
The Yanks are certainly talented enough to hit him.
Instead they go out and look like lost children out there, and Girardi, after the game, came off like a whiny little school girl.

[VirtualSmitty]

Almost all of the Yankees post season batting averages make me cry. Maybe they aren't being paid enough?

[icehog3]

Obviously I am rooting for the Tigers, Dom and Joe, but I take no pleasure from the individual struggles of the Yankees offense.

OK, maybe ARod a little. ;) But it pains me to see Granderson and Cano struggling so badly.

[357]

Heard a stat while watching game 2. Tigers starting pitchers combined ERA in the post-season is below 1.00.

:wo

Hope it keeps dropping. About Jeter, sad to see him hurt. He's one Yankee I actually don't hate, well him and Grandy. Wish both of them all the success in the world except when they're playing the Tigers.

[MedicCook]

For the Yankees the series ended when Jeter broke his ankle. A-Rod has no heart and can't play in the clutch. Cano is becoming more like A-Rod when he should be more like Jeter. Too many Yankees look up to A-Rod as a team leader and that hurts the team. I really hope Cashman finds a team to trade him to this winter.
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[icehog3]

Heard a stat while watching game 2. Tigers starting pitchers combined ERA in the post-season is below 1.00.

:wo



Yup...the other stat was:

Starting pitchers have given up 5 runs in their last 48+ innings.
Valverde has given up 7 runs in his last 2 1/3 innings....and the last 7 runs the Tigers have allowed.

[357]

Yeah Papa Grande has been terrible. Talk is they may have found a mechanical flaw that they can address. Who knows. They said the same thing about Scherzer early in the season and since then he's been fantastic.

If they feel they've addressed it, he'll be back out there at some point.

[icehog3]

Yeah Papa Grande has been terrible. Talk is they may have found a mechanical flaw that they can address. Who knows. They said the same thing about Scherzer early in the season and since then he's been fantastic.

If they feel they've addressed it, he'll be back out there at some point.

Hopefully 2013. ;)

[357]

I'd bet money Valverde will be back out there this series. Leyland is too loyal, stubborn, and probably thinks he can't lose the roster spot in his bullpen by not playing him. It might not be in a save situation, but game 2 wasn't a save situation either.

[CigarSquid]

I'd bet money Valverde will be back out there this series. Leyland is too loyal, stubborn, and probably thinks he can't lose the roster spot in his bullpen by not playing him. It might not be in a save situation, but game 2 wasn't a save situation either.

I wouldn't.

[jonumberone]

I want to first guess here!
NO way should Nunez and Chavez be in the line up!
Nunez should NEVER be in the field.
Pure panic move by Girardi!
He's sacrificing defense, and Hoping Nunez hits.
And he's hoping Chavez hits too, he's 0 for 11 with 6 strike outs.
Not exactly stinging the ball!!
IMO, he's better off running A rod out there, and hoping he comes around.
He can't win this series if the left side of the infield is Chavez and Nunez/Nix! :2

[BHalbrooks]

Even though I'm from Michigan, I hate Detroit teams.... BUT I hope they crush the Yankees. 4-0.

[icehog3]

Let's Go Tigers!! http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/sweeping.gif

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Scherzer.jpg

Looks like the Tigers are just waiting on the Cards and Giants to see who's next. ;)

[68TriShield]

Let's Go Tigers!! http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/sweeping.gif

Tis done :D Congrats to all the Tigers fans!

the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!

[icehog3]

Tis done :D Congrats to all the Tigers fans!

the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!
the Tigers won the pennant!

:D :wnr

4 more to go, Dave!

[BHalbrooks]

Yankees suck haha

[Dave128]

Tigers win!! :)

[icehog3]

Delmon Young is the ALCS MVP, first player in MLB history to have 4 game winning RBIs in a series.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/DelmonYoung.png

[kelmac07]

Can you say SWEEP?? Sorry Dom...couldn't resist. :D :D

[CigarSquid]

The Yankees stunk it up!

[icehog3]

I am hoping the Cards win in 5 now, so that they will have almost as much time off before the Series starts as the Tigers will.

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/WS2.png

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/WS3.png

[jdakine]

Happy for the Tigers and hope the Cards get in for the fact that Pujols left for the money and they get back the World Series with out him.

[688sonarmen]

I am hoping the Cards win in 5 now, so that they will have almost as much time off before the Series starts as the Tigers will.

Cards are on a roll but the Giants have a way of coming back. Good news is the Cards bullpen is rested a bit from last night and they showed with out a doubt it does not matter who is injured that there is enough depth in the farm system to compensate.

Congrats to the Tigers, it was good seeing Fielder and the boys partying a bit after the win:tu

[theonlybear4CORT]

Well it was a nice run.

[jonumberone]

Congrats to the Tigers, and Tom! :tu

I tend to think of myself as a pretty level headed Yankee fan.
I try not to get too excited when they're up, and remain calm when they're low.
Despite what the PR machine tells me, I don't consider "not winning the World series" a failure of a season.
All that said, this is a disaster!

I've seen the Yanks lose plenty of series.
I've been sad, discouraged, and disappointed by past performances.
They've let me down, and broken my heart.
But never have they infuriated me, like they did in this postseason!
From top to bottom, I've never seen a more gutless performance!

I've never liked Girardi, and his performance here was awful!
To try and lay this at the feet of A-rod, while continuing to give Cano, Swisher, and Grandy a reach around, makes me want to bite his face like Max Cady.
If you want to bench A-rod, to make a point, Fine, but he was never going to win this series, under any circumstances, with A-rod on the bench!
I have so much more to add, but the vein bulging out of my neck, is forcing me to step away from the keyboard!

[Gophernut]

I agree Dom, it seems like the "experts" are trying to pin this on A-Rod. Well, as bad as he may have played, he didn't play in a couple games that they lost. How can you pin that on him? I don't really care for the Yankees, or the Tigers for that matter, but to say that this was anything other than a collective team loss, is crazy. Of course you have to give props to the Tigers for the excellent starting pitching, the timely hitting, and some solid defense. I don't see how any NL team is going to beat the Tigers at this point.

[CRIMPS]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/WS2.png

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/WS3.png

slow clap. Regardless of who Det faces... will be pulling for them.

[357]

I agree Dom, it seems like the "experts" are trying to pin this on A-Rod. Well, as bad as he may have played, he didn't play in a couple games that they lost. How can you pin that on him? I don't really care for the Yankees, or the Tigers for that matter, but to say that this was anything other than a collective team loss, is crazy. Of course you have to give props to the Tigers for the excellent starting pitching, the timely hitting, and some solid defense. I don't see how any NL team is going to beat the Tigers at this point.

The national media is confounded, trying to figure out how the Yankees lost the series. They never can come to the idea that the Tigers WON and their pitching staff is really good. The Yankees pitching was pretty good overall; their offense chose not to show up. I think the Tigers holding on in game 1 and winning in the 12th dealt an emotional blow to the Yankees. If the Yankees win game 1, it's a different series.

BTW, the bolded statement was said in 2006 too. Not so thrilled with how that one worked out. This team is better than that one though IMO. Pitching is better and the middle of the lineup is better. Lineup 1-9 may not be quite what the '06 team was but overall a better team. What's sick is next year Delmon Young won't even be on the team. With V-Mart back as the DH, they won't need him. He's proven he can't play the field at all anymore. So, it wouldn't suprise me if the Tigers bench him in the NL park. It'll be him or Quentin Berry getting pined due to the Cards starters all being righties and no DH allowed. My bet is Leyland goes with the L-R matchup not Delmon due to his hot streak. At least that's been Leyland's leanings in the past anyway.

slow clap. Regardless of who Det faces... will be pulling for them.

Pulling for the Tigers or their opponents?

[CigarSquid]

I do not care how or why the Yankee's lost.. I just love it!

[CRIMPS]

Pulling for the Tigers or their opponents?

Pulling for the Tigers.

[Starscream]

Looks like an all orange WS this year. I'm pulling for Detroit. Even though I'm a big NL fan, this will be the third year in a row that I've rooted for an AL team in the WS.

[icehog3]

The Tigers just heard you are rooting for them, Andy, and they were pretty happy. :D

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/TigersWS1.png

[Starscream]

The Tigers just heard you are rooting for them, Andy, and they were pretty happy. :D

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/TigersWS1.png

They might think otherwise when they find out what happens to the teams I usually root for.;s

[icehog3]

They might think otherwise when they find out what happens to the teams I usually root for.;s

Those Bastids!!

[357]

Lets go Tigers!!!!

Hope JV pitches another CG gem FTW. :gl

[icehog3]

Lets go Tigers!!!!

Hope JV pitches another CG gem FTW. :gl

:banger

[Brian D.]

Ozzie Guillen fired from Miami Marlins...

Was there an obscenity laced tirade from Oz afterwards? I can't seem to find one on the interwebz. He doesn't seem like the type to quietly clean out his desk and leave the jobsite when pinkslipped.

[357]

Ozzie Guillen fired from Miami Marlins...

Was there an obscenity laced tirade from Oz afterwards? I can't seem to find one on the interwebz. He doesn't seem like the type to quietly clean out his desk and leave the jobsite when pinkslipped.

They'll be paying him to do nothing for the next 3 years.

[Dave128]

Tigers!!

[Ahbroody]

Having played ball through High School superstitions get the best of me.
I think some of the bay area boys need to get over here and break up this Detroit bromance. I will be working tonight but listening in the car at work.


Got Heeeeeeeeeeeeeem!!

[icehog3]

They'll be paying him to do nothing for the next 3 years.

After his glowing praise of Fidel Castro, it was inevitable he would be gone.

If he got hired by the Yankess, he would praise Adolph Hitler as a leader. He can't help himself.

GO TIGERS!!

[Ahbroody]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/ahbroody/facebook_-815664623.jpg

Got heeeeeeeeem!

Funny all day national media had this victory penciled in for Tigers.
Giants stronger pitches don't pitch till games 3 & 4. This will likely be a long series. Worried as Giants tend to play better when backs against the wall. Hope they don't get ahead of themselves.

[Starscream]

Ozzie Guillen fired from Miami Marlins...

Was there an obscenity laced tirade from Oz afterwards? I can't seem to find one on the interwebz. He doesn't seem like the type to quietly clean out his desk and leave the jobsite when pinkslipped.

Like Bobby V, Ozzy will be fine and will continue his career in baseball for many years to come, whether it be as a manager or whatnot. He just needs the right team and the right players and he'll be fine.

[Starscream]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/ahbroody/facebook_-815664623.jpg

Got heeeeeeeeem!

Funny all day national media had this victory penciled in for Tigers.
Giants stronger pitches don't pitch till games 3 & 4. This will likely be a long series. Worried as Giants tend to play better when backs against the wall. Hope they don't get ahead of themselves.

ESPN maybe, but the MLB network has shown footage for the past few days of Verlander getting lit up by Giants hitters in the All-Star game. I think they knew what was up. Tigers are still very much alive, just need to get their offense going like business as usual.

[bobarian]

I thought Joe Buck was going to have a coronary when McCarver said the last time Giants fans chanted "Barry, Barry" it was for Barry Manilow. What a maroon! :sl

[big pete]

Detroit doesn't want to see this guy again

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/15/32/25/3515720/3/628x471.jpg

[icehog3]

Giants outhit, outpitched and outfielded the Tigers.

One blown, four to go. Go Tigers!!

[kelmac07]

WOW!! Giants put it on the Tigers last night.

[icehog3]

WOW!! Giants put it on the Tigers last night.

Did they? I hadn't heard.




:lr

[357]

ESPN maybe, but the MLB network has shown footage for the past few days of Verlander getting lit up by Giants hitters in the All-Star game. I think they knew what was up. Tigers are still very much alive, just need to get their offense going like business as usual.

That was JV not taking the AS game seriously. It was fairly obvious and he admitted as much later. He was tying to put on a show and throw 200 mph.

The thing that was back breaking was Kung-Fu Panda, who had 12 HR all season, hitting 3 bombs and totalling 5 RBIs I believe all in game 1. The Papa Grande recovery experiment is over. At least we'll never see him take the mound again with a Tigers uni again.

Tig's better get game 2.

[Starscream]

That was JV not taking the AS game seriously. It was fairly obvious and he admitted as much later. He was tying to put on a show and throw 200 mph.

The thing that was back breaking was Kung-Fu Panda, who had 12 HR all season, hitting 3 bombs and totalling 5 RBIs I believe all in game 1. The Papa Grande recovery experiment is over. At least we'll never see him take the mound again with a Tigers uni again.

Tig's better get game 2.

Not a knock on Verlander at all here, but not sure I buy his excuse after the AS game.
As for Sandoval, that's just the nature of the postseason.

With all that said, Go Tigers!

[icehog3]

Giants firmly in the driver's seat. Outpitched again, masterful job by their staff.

I am a Tigers fan 'til the end, and still hold out hope that home cooking turns this around...but I know 4 out of 5 from a good team on a roll is a longshot.

[357]

Brutal to watch. Every last bounce, roll, and call is going the Giant's way. Fister pitched well despite taking that hit off the noggin that landed in center field. Think about how hard it had to hit to still have enough momentum to carry all the way into center. Man that had to hurt.

Anyway, still clinging to hope. The Tigers record was fantastic at home this year. Those bats better wake up. For the life of me I dont get why Dirks isn't in the lineup. I get R-L thing but Dirks has proven all season he can hit lefties. Garcia didn't give them anything through the first 2.

[kelmac07]

Bottom line...the Tigers just haven't hit the ball.

[Ahbroody]

Brutal to watch. Every last bounce, roll, and call is going the Giant's way. Fister pitched well despite taking that hit off the noggin that landed in center field. Think about how hard it had to hit to still have enough momentum to carry all the way into center. Man that had to hurt.

Anyway, still clinging to hope. The Tigers record was fantastic at home this year. Those bats better wake up. For the life of me I dont get why Dirks isn't in the lineup. I get R-L thing but Dirks has proven all season he can hit lefties. Garcia didn't give them anything through the first 2.

lol.
Every last bounce call and roll? This implies these games were close and could have gone either way. As to bounce in game 1 you got that two run fortunate bounce off the glove. It was a mistake to put the rookie in and he gave up 2. That game was 8-1 in reality. The tigers and your ace got destroyed in game 1. Destroyed did you miss the Panda taking your ace behind the wood shed? I have yet to see any questionable calls which could have gone either way. Fielder was out. Replay is very clear.

How about the Tigers start hitting the ball? How many hits did the Tigers have last night against a pitcher that had been benched?

How about in a 0-0 game you make the play at the plate to keep it 0-0. Not make the double play because your thinking your just going to magically start hitting.

You sound like that nightengale guy who is eating his hat. The Tigers have been out hit, out pitched, out coached. To say its coming down to bounces rolls and calls is such Crap.
http://www.freep.com/article/20121024/SPORTS02/121024027/detroit-tigers-san-francisco-giants-world-series

[icehog3]

Bottom line...the Tigers just haven't hit the ball.

The Giants pitching has been purty darn good.

SJ Mike, pour a little more lemon juice in our paper cuts, why don't ya? :rolleyes:

[357]

Game 1 hit goes off third base, which would have ended the inning. End result 3 more runs scored in that inning.

Game 2 the bunt that rolled along the line spinning and stayed fair. The calls have been great. Replay proved that. My only complaint there is the strike zone is strangely small, especially east/west when Tigers are pitching. Giants are getting the outside pitch called for a strike consistently where the Tigs aren't. It's not the reason for the 2-0 lead but it contributes.

I'm not complaining or making excuses. My point is EVERYTHING is going the Giant's way. Panda had 12 HR in 162 games then hits 3 in WS-Game1. I wouldn't have expected that if I was pitching. Heck he chipped the third one over the wall like he had a pitching wedge in his hand. Unreal.

Prince was out at home thanks to a terrible slide. Get outside the baseline when the catcher is setup insidem OR, hit the plate with your front foot and you'd have been safe. The only slides I've seen worse were by Delmon Young during the season where BOTH feet missed the bag.

Point taken about hitting a bad pitcher. All year it seems pitchers who were struggling magically right the ship against the Tigers. Bum was just the latest. What was his postseason ERA coming in 11.5? JV's was 0.74 and he gets beat up for 5 runs. Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot?

[Ahbroody]

The Giants pitching has been purty darn good.

SJ Mike, pour a little more lemon juice in our paper cuts, why don't ya? :rolleyes:

Sorry mang. I just have watched the national media crap on the Giants even after game 1. Then now instead of saying the Giants Pitchers are just dealing filth I see a lot of "the Tigers are beating themselves" crap. It gets tired with the OOOO if not for this or that. Baseball is the ultimate game of skill and luck. That said its also about matchups. The Tigers stats were exaggerated to an extent playing in the worse division in the whole league. Given now that the #1 and #2 pitchers of the Giants are going against the #3 and #4 pitchers of the Tigers, I like the Giants chances to take one of the next 2 or possibly both. Unless they Pitch JV on short rest. The National media thinks the Tigers can all still magically start hitting. The Giants faced Pitchers like the Tigers in the last series, no ones mentioning that. The Tigers faced a horrible pitching line up against the Yankees. The Giants staff is very different and better then the Yankees. This is all so familiar to the Giants Rangers series. The old they are a joke they have no chance. They will get out pitched and hit.

It also drives me nuts that everyone is saying how great this team is. They managed just 88 wins in the worse division in baseball. Put them in the West or the East and they dont even make the dance. It just makes a lot of us out here shake our heads.

Rant over.


As to last night.

Got Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeem!!

Edit I take Boch as the better skipper also.

[icehog3]

Tigers are great on paper. I would be the first to agree that they underperformed this regular season, Mike. Their starting pitching was amazing in the ALDS and ALCS and gave fans a glimpse of what could be.

I have given kudos to the Giants pitching since right after Game 1, and said the Tigers were outpitched in Game 2 as well. I could give a f*** what the national media says, they're 67% wrong 80% of the time. ;)

[Ahbroody]

Agreed on that. Not just baseball, but hockey as well.

All that said I am going to be bored as hell when the series is over. Not a football guy and without hockey lifes going to be boring.

I would just like to state that I am in no way saying the series is over. If the Tigers do get hot I think they can still take it 7 and maybe even come back. I really do think pitching is pretty even on both sides. I will say I think this is the first of the post season series that the Tigers have faced a legitamate pitching staff. Even though Kane is the #1 he has not had an easy go this post season and has walked the tightrope a lot. Both the Giants next two startes are better then the last two though. So the Tigers will need to get hot against better pitchers then they have seen. With Timmy coming out of the bullpen also its not going to be easy to get hot.

[BC-Axeman]

Giants need to win one of the next four, Tigers need to win four of the next four.
The Giants are just playing the way they always play. It seems to be working.

[Gophernut]

Wow timely shot by Posey.
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[ChicagoWhiteSox]

And lights out, Congrats to the SF Giants!!

[theonlybear4CORT]

champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ahbroody]

Wow triple crown winner strikes out with bat on his shoulder. Didn't expect a sweep.

In the words of BW

Got Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem!!!

[bonjing]

Champs once again!

[Ahbroody]

change your damn avatar greg

[bonjing]

Haha I will once I get to a legit computer. I only have a itouch at home ;s

GIANTS BABY ! ! ! :banger

[theonlybear4CORT]

We going to the parade?

[Remo]

Can't believe they swept!

[bobarian]

:banger:banger:banger:banger:banger

[bobarian]

:noon:noon:noon:noon:noon

[bobarian]

:wo:wo:wo:wo:wo

[theonlybear4CORT]

http://cdn.mlbmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/389401_10151270047058627_224831938_n.jpg

[icehog3]

Congrats to the Giants, they outpitched and outhit Detroit. Well deserved championship.

[kelmac07]

Congrats to the Giants and their fans. Tom hit the nail on the head...they outplayed the Tigers in every aspect of the game to earn thier second title in three years.

[BC-Axeman]

This has been a great year for the Giants. You can't say the other teams weren't good either. Hard fought wins (except maybe the first game against the Tigers :D).

[357]

Congrats to the Giants, they outpitched and outhit Detroit. Well deserved championship.

Agreed. Hope the Tigers will be back next year with V-Mart in tow.

[Ahbroody]

Wonder what role Romo will play when BW comes back next year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELQXqtcWtfg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Will be interesting to see what the Giants do in the off season.

[icehog3]

Tigers cut Papa Grande and Delmon Young loose....they say Victor Martinez will be the DH in 2013.

They will try to resign Larid, but he has said that he will seek a bigger paycheck.

Their priority will be resigning Anibal Sanchez. They also say they have a prospect who may fill the closer role.

[kelmac07]

Rangers made Hamilton a qualifying offer...just to ensure they get draft pick compensation. My Mets need a complete new outfield...just sad that Sandy won't be dropping a large wad of cash down. We still have to lock up Wright and am afriad we wil be stuck with another AA/AAA outfield on 2013.