Official SEC Football Thread 2011

[Stephen]

Stephen, it seems your argument preculdes itself. Because without the support of "dyed-in-the-wool fanbases", alumni, and monetary boosters, no such a top flight coach would employed (or employed for long) by a school and therefore the top flight talent you speak of would not follow as you detailed. I'm sorry my friend, but this sport starts with the support of the fans, and it is from those basic building blocks that championship teams are born. Ticket sales, donations and booster money are what draw coaches, top flight players, and championships.
You speak as though these are unique to the South. Texas, Notre Dame and Ohio St. all have way more money at their disposal than any SEC school and I'd wager that none have as big a following as Notre Dame. Yet until last year Notre Dame had not so much as a bowl victory in over 15 years. I doubt it's because the fans didn't care.
All pieces of the puzzle are important and it takes "the perfect storm", if you will, of all of them at once: broad fanbase, talented coaches, and talented players to cultivate a championship. But no piece is more integral to that equation as the culture of football within a given fanbase. Again, I think that you would be fooling yourself to think that the culture of football is predicated by the arrival of ANY coach ANYwhere. The flames of support may be fanned so to speak, but regardless, the fire comes from the so-called "rabid fandom". It is predicated on the fans supporting football. The arrival of a great coach or a top flight player or a championship is the direct result of the football culture of the region/area of interest. A coach may inspire a fanbase with great wins, and great players may endear themselves with memorable plays and performances, but they are all lost without the fans.
Nowhere did I mitigate fan support. But you could hope, wish, root and pray your little heart out for your team to do well, but if they don't have the coaching and players, it's a moot point. Is it a symbiotic relationship? Sure. Universities need money from fans to hire decent coaches, have nice stadiums and equipment to help recruit top players, etc. But at the end of the day, it's arrogance to think that the SEC is on it's current run because they have better fans. So, to use your logic, the previous three decades (70's, 80's and 90's) the Big 10, Pac-10, BigXIII/BigXII just had better fans than the SEC, that's why they won the vast majority of the National Titles during that span?
In each of the schools you mentioned above, it was not some invisible force that propelled those schools to hire great coaches. It was the desire in the fanbase (born through their football culture) to see the once great teams return to greatness.
And yet, they're not propelled to greatness without those coaches (and the talent that follows coaches), as fervent as the fanbase may be. It's an insult to fanbases around the country to somehow think that one of the main reasons the SEC has won the last five (soon to be six) BCS Championships is because you're better fans. It flies in the face of obvious recruiting advantages the South has and gives credence where it's not due.:2

[Stephen]

Wow, reading over this post again later, IT IS SO REDUNDANT.

Sorry about that.
You just wanted to make sure I understood.:r

[Stephen]

So, to use your logic, the previous three decades (70's, 80's and 90's) the Big 10, Pac-10, BigXIII/BigXII just had better fans than the SEC, that's why they won the vast majority of the National Titles during that span?
Meant Big VIII/Big XII, but I'm sure you guys knew that.

[Powers]

And the hits just keep comin': Charlie Weis takes the head coaching job of Kansas.

I never like that cheeseburger eatin' b@stard anyhow

[longknocker]

And the hits just keep comin': Charlie Weis takes the head coaching job of Kansas.

I never like that cheeseburger eatin' b@stard anyhow

Good Riddance, Huh, Michael? :D

[OLS]

I was reasonably shocked to hear that, mostly the good kind of shock because I looked at the
way he coached the Fla team this year and I was thinking, man, he either IGNORES the QB standing
next to him, NEVER talks to him, or he sits on the bench the whole game and doesn't watch and ignores
the QBs. I am thinking, 'they must be paying him in cheeseburgers' because he sure doesn't seem very
involved or doesn't have any desire to participate. I felt so sorry for the UF fans. COULDN'T be happier.

[OLS]

Erhuh..LSU's THE BEST, cough ehem, er....Merry Christmas and a sad new year to all my Bama friends.

[OLS]

Not too late to switch! Join members of the national sports media who are coming over to our side in droves.

[ir13]

Roll Tide!

[longknocker]

Roll Tide!

:tu

[Powers]

Breaking News: A winning season means male students are more likely to party and have their grades suffer! :eek: I'm shocked

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20111220/WIRE/111229959?p=1&tc=pg

I'd like to see this study done at a real football powerhouse in the SEC :r

[OLS]

Roll Tide!

Oh my god, say it isn't so....YOU have gone over to the darkest dark side?

[Powers]

2012 SEC schedules just released:

http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/NEWS/tabid/473/Article/230227/sec-releases-2012-conference-football-schedule.aspx

[OLS]

Before looking I think I remember that LSU, whom I touted as playing anyone nationwide with a sack,
has a pretty weak non-conference schedule in 2012. Spoke to soon, OR hello two straight national
championships, lol. Why is everybody playing Texas A&M??? Did I miss something???


ROFL

[ninjavanish]

Before looking I think I remember that LSU, whom I touted as playing anyone nationwide with a sack,
has a pretty weak non-conference schedule in 2012. Spoke to soon, OR hello two straight national
championships, lol. Why is everybody playing Texas A&M??? Did I miss something???


ROFL

Did you miss the addition of Texas A&M and Missouri into the SEC?

[hammondc]

Cannot wait to watch A&M get destroyed next year. Trial by fire....

[Powers]

Georgia looks to have quite the cupcake schedule next year

[ir13]

Georgia looks to have quite the cupcake schedule next year

They will still lose to Carolina I believe.

[Stephen]

Did you miss the addition of Texas A&M and Missouri into the SEC?
Mike the Tiger still has a smile on his face, so Brad hasn't come up for air yet.

[Powers]

It appears Stanford caught the 'Bama syndrome and couldn't make a FG. On second thought, Oklahoma State displayed superior depth and balance :D ;) :=:

[rizzle]

Double heh.

[jsnake]

Missouri looked good in the Independence Bowl. The schedule has some really great games and I am hoping to make a few of them in Columbia next season. I am a little more optimistic about how Missouri will do next year.

[rizzle]

Missouri looked good in the Independence Bowl. The schedule has some really great games and I am hoping to make a few of them in Columbia next season. I am a little more optimistic about how Missouri will do next year.
Well, you're definitely coming into the East at a good time. I'd expect UGA to be the early favorite, followed by S Cacalacky. Florida is down, Tennessee is in shambles, Kentucky is waiting for basketball season to start, and Vandy, of all places, just might be on the upswing. But I'd expect Missouri to actually compete pretty well next year. It's when the East gets strong again that you gotta worry. Plus, you get Bama out of the West next year, too. I'm thinking Mizzou goes 4-4 or so in conference. Should be a neat inaugural year for you.:tu

[OLS]

Man I felt SO bad for Vanderbilt here Memphis for the Liberty Bowl....I thought they HAD that one,
but it just wasn't to be.
The people that thought I did not know about TAM and MIZZOU missed the ROFL a few lines down.

OK, second to last chance bama boys.....come over to the Purple side and you will not be harmed.
Continue to pull for the Elephant and be doomed to a year of having been wrong TWICE!
I DO realize that fandom trumps rationality, and the fact that our superior special teams, superior
kicking game, 'superior in numbers' running game and superior quarterback play is not nearly enough
to get through your skulls, lol, but it will not be thought of as weakness here if you admit you guys
have no shot, lol. I promise NOT TO TELL.

[longknocker]

Man I felt SO bad for Vanderbilt here Memphis for the Liberty Bowl....I thought they HAD that one,
but it just wasn't to be.
The people that thought I did not know about TAM and MIZZOU missed the ROFL a few lines down.

OK, second to last chance bama boys.....come over to the Purple side and you will not be harmed.
Continue to pull for the Elephant and be doomed to a year of having been wrong TWICE!

No Chance, Brother! Roll, Tide! :D :tu

[OLS]

You know what really makes me chuckle??
Anywhere you find people commenting on the general BCS, you get these people angrily saying that they aren't
going to watch, that Ok St got hosed, or Stanford should have been put here or there, that the BCS is broken,
you couldn't PAY me to watch that pile of crap game.

Bull$hiT. I wouldn't doubt if it sets alltime BCS viewership records. People may say it's a bad result, but it's also
going to be like a slow motion car crash, people WILL HAVE TO watch. It's gonna be epic.

[Stephen]

Bull$hiT. I wouldn't doubt if it sets alltime BCS viewership records. People may say it's a bad result, but it's also
going to be like a slow motion car crash, people WILL HAVE TO watch. It's gonna be epic.
I'll gladly make any sort of wager you deem sufficient.

[OLS]

Nah, that's not trolling for a bet, just that I think a LOT of people who "wouldn't watch it if you PAID me" are going
to be tuning in no matter what they say online. Look at what WVU did to Clemson last night (70 points). Certainly
didn't say much for the rise of 2011 Clemson lovers around the forum. Felt bad for em. But to see that happen to
Clemson and to reflect on the A$$-whippin we put on WVU and the one we put on Oregon, you HAVE to be interested
to see EVERY game LSU plays, just for the glory of football the way it's supposed to be played. :) Had Clemson
overrun WVU, I think I would have thought, 'hmm, I thought they were better than that.' Then look at how
close the LSU BAMA game was earlier in the year, and think, 'maybe these ARE the two best teams in football'.
Why not watch something featuring two superb teams? --edit-- I mean, football is going away for a VERY long time.
Why not go out with a gigantic bang? I call it must-see TV 2. I am not talking as much about the OK St. fans, they
are never going to forget this year. And I still think it's totally unfair for them. But they are also not better than UA.

[Stephen]

Nah, that's not trolling for a bet, just that I think a LOT of people who "wouldn't watch it if you PAID me" are going
to be tuning in no matter what they say online. Look at what WVU did to Clemson last night (70 points). Certainly
didn't say much for the rise of 2011 Clemson lovers around the forum. Felt bad for em. But to see that happen to
Clemson and to reflect on the A$$-whippin we put on WVU and the one we put on Oregon, you HAVE to be interested
to see EVERY game LSU plays, just for the glory of football the way it's supposed to be played. :) Had Clemson
overrun WVU, I think I would have thought, 'hmm, I thought they were better than that.' Then look at how
close the LSU BAMA game was earlier in the year, and think, 'maybe these ARE the two best teams in football'.
Why not watch something featuring two superb teams? --edit-- I mean, football is going away for a VERY long time.
Why not go out with a gigantic bang? I call it must-see TV 2. I am not talking as much about the OK St. fans, they
are never going to forget this year. And I still think it's totally unfair for them. But they are also not better than UA.
Frankly, because causual fans have zero interest in watching another low scoring affair between two regional teams. Not to mention it's on ESPN, which further cuts into your audience. Sorry man, but I'd be surprised if as many people watched this year as they did last.

[OLS]

I doubt very seriously that people have no interest in watching another low-scoring affair. I do not doubt that YOU
do not want to, you are showing those cards, but people like seeing the best play the best, no matter the result.
As for ESPN, that is certain, in fact I am thinking about how much trouble I will be in if it is not on ABC that night.
Last year, our local ABC showed the game, which if I can believe what I read, states that it was the first ESPN only
NCG in history. I know ABC and ESPN are affiliated, but we will have to see. I can also watch on the net or walk
down to the tavern. But you are correct perhaps in that the numbers won't be biggest ever, but I refuse to believe
that 80% of this "I ain't watching" BS is true. It's FOOTBALL, and great power football at that. People like to seem
principled on the net where no one knows what's true and what isn't. Plus they like to run their mouths. Believe about
10% of that BS.

[Stephen]

I doubt very seriously that people have no interest in watching another low-scoring affair. I do not doubt that YOU
do not want to, you are showing those cards, but people like seeing the best play the best, no matter the result.
1. No offense, but you have no idea what I do or don't want to do.
2. I am intelligent enough, however, to see outside my sphere and realize what your casual, hardly-ever-watch football, "fan" likes, and it ain't a low-scoring sloppy football game (which is exactly what the first game was) that's can best be described as, "been there, done that." In case you haven't realized, there is ZERO buildup to this game. Nobody's talking about it, nobody outside the South really cares all that much. That doesn't lend itself to record-setting viewership.
As for ESPN, that is certain, in fact I am thinking about how much trouble I will be in if it is not on ABC that night.
Last year, our local ABC showed the game, which if I can believe what I read, states that it was the first ESPN only
NCG in history. I know ABC and ESPN are affiliated, but we will have to see. I can also watch on the net or walk
down to the tavern. But you are correct perhaps in that the numbers won't be biggest ever, but I refuse to believe
that 80% of this "I ain't watching" BS is true. It's FOOTBALL, and great power football at that. People like to seem
principled on the net where no one knows what's true and what isn't. Plus they like to run their mouths. Believe about
10% of that BS.
You're right, a lot of what you're reporting being said is hyperbole. I'm simply stating that it's probably going to be one of the lesser viewed National Championship games in some time for a myriad of reasons.

[OLS]

Haha, why do people always lead off with no offense before they intend to offend.
None taken.

[OLS]

oklahoma state displayed superior depth and balance :d ;) :=:

catchphrase!

[Stephen]

Haha, why do people always lead off with no offense before they intend to offend.
None taken.
Because my intent wasn't to offend, but simply reinforce that it's folly to try and ascribe me as one of those of which you speak.

Brad, I don't begrudge you for your elation. I'm simply trying to explain to you as to why your jubilation, save a small region of these United States, might not be shared.

[rizzle]

Oh, it'll be highly watched. And if it isn't, who cares? And who cares about buildup anyway? I don't need anyone who knows less than I to tell me their opinion. I've never heard so much whining in my life.

[Stephen]

Oh, it'll be highly watched. And if it isn't, who cares?
I certainly don't. But the blind homerism in this thread reached critical mass about three pages ago...
And who cares about buildup anyway? I don't need anyone who knows less than I to tell me their opinion.
Because it was (is) germane to the current discussion in the thread.
I've never heard so much whining in my life.
Irony at its finest.

[rizzle]

I certainly don't. But the blind homerism in this thread reached critical mass about three pages ago...

Because it was (is) germane to the current discussion in the thread.

Irony at its finest.

It's delicious, isn't it.

[OLS]

But the blind homerism in this thread reached critical mass about three pages ago....

Then come back when your team has a year of SEC play under it's belt.
Or do you not pull for Mizzou?

Hell, I'd hardly call my Homerism BLIND. I used to have a pair of Snoopy
pajamas that said "It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am."
The I in the sentence is LSU in 2011, btw. No homerism in that, can you
name a better team? Can you name a team LSU WOULDN'T mop the floor with?

[McSmokey]

ROLL TIDE all the way Brad... That said I have seen Bama play and I've seen LSU play... I wouldn't place a bet on who's gonna win to save my own life.

[Stephen]

It's delicious, isn't it.
Tastes like chicken. Southern fried, of course.:D

[Stephen]

Then come back when your team has a year of SEC play under it's belt.
Or do you not pull for Mizzou?
Nah, I'm a loyal backer of the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Long story short; myself and my high school teammate were both recruited by Charlie McBride. He went on to have a nice NFL career, my left knee was completely destroyed my junior year of high school.
Hell, I'd hardly call my Homerism BLIND.
Now grant you, I'm in the SEC thread so some strutting is to be expected, but what drew me in to the conversation in the first place was someone stating that the reason the SEC has won (soon to be) six National Titles in a row is because of the fans (paraphrased). And now you recently said that you wouldn't doubt if it was the most watched BCS game ever. Eh, I probably should've left well enough alone, but I'm stupid and jumped in anyways.
I used to have a pair of Snoopy
pajamas that said "It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am."
The I in the sentence is LSU in 2011, btw. No homerism in that, can you
name a better team? Can you name a team LSU WOULDN'T mop the floor with?
Well, Alabama for starters.;)

[OLS]

Well, Alabama for starters.;)

Well, then let's get together on Tuesday to see what happens. I have a feeling you will have to
munch on those words.

I have tried to give a tough bama team their due in this whole argument, as the 2nd best team
in the USA, I still think they are. But they do not belong in this game.

[OLS]

"The common misconception is that all the players hate the BCS," said Alabama junior left tackle Barrett Jones,
who is undecided. (About a playoff) "It's hard to hate the BCS when you're in the SEC. It's been so good to us.
We feel if we win our conference, we'll have a chance to play for the national title."

Hahahahahaha...OK, I know what he MEANS, but this was especially relevant this year, lol, for jokes's sake anyway.

[Stephen]

But they do not belong in this game.
As in a Championship game, I agree. It's my opinion that Oklahoma St. should've been given that opportunity, but that ship has long since sailed. But you asked who LSU wouldn't mop the floor with, and as the first game indicated, they did anything but.

[OLS]

What's HARDER than beating alabama TWICE????

[OLS]

Beating LSU ONCE................ROLL TI-GERS

[ir13]

What's HARDER than beating alabama TWICE????

No one beats Alabama twice in one season :fu

ROLL TIDE !

[OLS]

MY FAVORITYE BAMA FAN IS IN TOWN, WOOHOOOO.
I hope this guy's 15 minutes never end, cause it is just awesome that he made the trip
to town AT LEAST to be in NO for the big game if he does not make the game in person.

[Powers]

Excited for the game, gentlemen! :tu


And if you need an excuse to have a few drinks:
http://kegsneggsblog.com/2012/01/09/your-bcs-national-championship-drinking-game/

[OLS]

I am surprisingly calm for a guy with no cable TV......

[OLS]

Good luck friends...........

[JDTexan]

No one beats Alabama twice in one season :fu

ROLL TIDE !

Saban just proved it.

[ninjavanish]

Whoopsie. Not even across midfield until 6 minutes left in the game? Tsk tsk.

[chippewastud79]

:bh

[SvilleKid]

Well, that was certainly decisive.

[ir13]

Well, that was certainly decisive.

Yep, First Shutout in BCS History.

ROLL TIDE!

[SvilleKid]

Six years SEC National Champs. Anyone taking bets for 7 in a row?

[longknocker]

Whoopsie. Not even across midfield until 6 minutes left in the game? Tsk tsk.

Well, that was certainly decisive.

Yep, First Shutout in BCS History.

ROLL TIDE!

Six years SEC National Champs. Anyone taking bets for 7 in a row?

Roll, Tide!!!:banger Where Is Brad????;)

[longknocker]

Saban just proved it.

Thanks, Justin! :D

[McSmokey]

Roll Tide Roll!!!!

[McSmokey]

Lighting up my last OR Lost City for this :tu

[yourchoice]

Very very impressive showing by Bama. Congrats to all the fans of The Crimson Tide.

[ninjavanish]

OLS...

Where are you??????

[OLS]

My congratulations to the Bama Fans here....I went to bed at halftime. The ESPN3 internet viewer window was
so stuttery it was giving me a migraine. What was ON IT was not too encouraging either. Not sure what Les
Miles did in the second half, but if it was as hard-headed as it was in the first, I didn't miss much. The only success
we had against the tough bama D all night was in vertical passing. As soon as we would complete a pass, he would call
a run. I would have kept it up until I out-scored the Tide, no matter what types of interceptions or worse happened.

Outstanding defensive scheme, and the kicking game did not fail you. Impressive win.

[Smokin Gator]

Congrats to all the Bama fans!!! I really enjoyed watching that butt whipping!!

[OLS]

Congratulations to LSU. They racked up an impressive season record of 13-1, the best record in the SEC,
a better record than the National Champions themselves even. They went into Tuscaloosa and stole a game
from what now looks like a superior team who just played badly. They played arguably the toughest schedule in the
nation and breezed through it undefeated. They played as well or better on the road than they did at home. If I had
to blame anyone for the loss at the BCS title game, I blame the fans, who must have believed their own press SO MUCH
that they felt like they could sit in the stands and drink and watch their team struggle against a brick wall of a defense
and let Bama run their offense in polite silence. And then there's the impressive lineup of wins over the Rose, Orange,
Cotton, Gator, Peach, Music City and BCS NCG bowl games. Impressive.

Yes sir, that was a mighty good season for the Tigers. 14-0 would have looked PRETTY SWEET on the mantle next
to that crystal egg they laid in the Superdome. But alas it was not to be. Bama only gets one kudo from me, see
reply above. But that was huge, just huge.

[G G]

That is one huge crow

[ninjavanish]

My congratulations to the Bama Fans here....I went to bed at halftime. The ESPN3 internet viewer window was
so stuttery it was giving me a migraine. What was ON IT was not too encouraging either. Not sure what Les
Miles did in the second half, but if it was as hard-headed as it was in the first, I didn't miss much. The only success
we had against the tough bama D all night was in vertical passing. As soon as we would complete a pass, he would call
a run. I would have kept it up until I out-scored the Tide, no matter what types of interceptions or worse happened.

Outstanding defensive scheme, and the kicking game did not fail you. Impressive win.

You know, for all the smack that was talked, impressive to see you post such a classy post even in defeat. Honestly. It's sore losers and sore winners that make the game unbearable. Of course we all like to gloat a little when we win, and that's expected. But I hope that we all have some solace in the fact that this is the first time in 6 years that an sec team lost in the bcs game... And it came at the hands of another sec team. Keep it in the south baby! Those other folks don't know how to play ball!

[OLS]

Well, Jeremy, either you don't know me very well, or you thought I was lying when I told you what I would do if we lost. ;)
Smack must be talked, I am a Homer. I DID promise to post "after the game", but I went to bed at the half owing to bad
web video. But I am not so far gone that I do not understand or comprehend a good ole fashion "a55-handing-to".
I will not come with excuses the next morning when we lose, because in football there ARE no excuses. Lose a player
early in the game, you replace him with another. If you don't have another, that's YOUR FAULT. Miss a bunch of field goals??
Get a new kicker. QB having an off night?? Replace him. Backs not playing up to par?? Switch em. Don't HAVE better
guys waiting in the wings? Then you aren't the best team, are you?
A lot of times you get fans who are flush with excuses or explanations as to why they lost. They are full of Smacktalk
when they win, but tell you you don't know what you are talking about when they lose. That is the worst kind of sportsman-
ship. Your team loses, especially in this kind of indefensible performance, THEY LOST. There is no excuse for it, we are one
of if not the deepest team in football. And yet not one player in the rotation was able to do anything all that positive,
and certainly not turn the game around. I did like the play of the defensive line and the punter. And I will state here
what I have said elsewhere. SHAME on the 50,000+ LSU fans in attendance. SHAME ON YOU. You let Bama just run their
offense in respectful silence. You barely cheered on your own team, and ONLY when something really good happened,
which was infrequent to say the least. SHAME on you.
----------Edit---
Oh and SHAME on Brent Musberger. I hate him to begin with, but LSU fans did not "pick up the extra tickets".
Each team receives 17,000 tickets to the game, with the roughly 38,000 remaining divided among Sugar Bowl
season-ticket holders, corporate sponsors and the 125-person Sugar Bowl committee. Yes, a lot of those ended up
in partisan hands. But it was just another reason I hate Musberger. He is just awful.

[elderboy02]

Wow, that was a horrible game to watch. :bh "The SEC has the best football in the country" :rolleyes: The kicker can't even make a PAT :sh

[OLS]

You want to be MORE impressed Jeremy??
I think now that we escaped Tuscaloosa with a win against a superior team that played an inferior game.
That does not change in any way the fact that I thought the better team won that night, because of
the very reasons I list in the reply above. I had a LOT of trouble with the sore losers the next week who
all seemed to begrudge me my team's time in the spotlight. But make no mistake, coupled with the stoning
we got last night, and the virtual tie in Tuscaloosa on Nov 5th, it is clear that Bama is the 2012 National Champion.
They proved to be better in almost every way than LSU in two games this season. LSU is no slouch, not even close.
But NO TEAM IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME HAS EVER been shut out. But Bama
shut out the Tigers. MIGHTY impressive. (The last shutout in a championship game was a 0-0 tie in the 40s.)

Sure, I am pi55ed. Sure, I am disappointed. Sure, I feel bad for my team. Sure, I feel bad for me especially.
But that was MIGHTY impressive.

[OLS]

Wow, that was a horrible game to watch. :bh "The SEC has the best football in the country" :rolleyes: The kicker can't even make a PAT :sh

Dan, you know I love you, but if you want to see a slaughter, put one of your top ten teams in
that game last night and see what happens. Sure, there would have been more touchdowns,
but I am not sure you would have liked the outcome any better.

[OLS]

Scary now to think of what might have 'happened' had Bama somehow failed to make it to the game,
because this was NEVER a lock. Had OK St not lost up in Ioway, they would be sitting at home last night
knowing they were the better team. OH WHY, OH WHY couldn't that have happened, hahah.

[elderboy02]

Dan, you know I love you, but if you want to see a slaughter, put one of your top ten teams in
that game last night and see what happens. Sure, there would have been more touchdowns,
but I am not sure you would have liked the outcome any better.

I would not have liked the outcome, but at least I would have been entertained. I just hate seeing a quarterback not even come close to hitting his receivers (LSU QB), and missed PAT's (obviously Alabama)

[ninjavanish]

You want to be MORE impressed Jeremy??
I think now that we escaped Tuscaloosa with a win against a superior team that played an inferior game.
That does not change in any way the fact that I thought the better team won that night, because of
the very reasons I list in the reply above. I had a LOT of trouble with the sore losers the next week who
all seemed to begrudge me my team's time in the spotlight. But make no mistake, coupled with the stoning
we got last night, and the virtual tie in Tuscaloosa on Nov 5th, it is clear that Bama is the 2012 National Champion.
They proved to be better in almost every way than LSU in two games this season. LSU is no slouch, not even close.
But NO TEAM IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME HAS EVER been shut out. But Bama
shut out the Tigers. MIGHTY impressive. (The last shutout in a championship game was a 0-0 tie in the 40s.)

Sure, I am pi55ed. Sure, I am disappointed. Sure, I feel bad for my team. Sure, I feel bad for me especially.
But that was MIGHTY impressive.

No doubt. I believe the best two teams played. I wouldn't begrudge LSU one bit for saying they were among the best, Its easy to see they dominated every other team.

Btw I can't stand Brent turdburger either.

[shilala]

I didn't watch the game, I'd rather watch paint dry. I did follow the score up until it was 9-0 and I was pretty shocked.
Now, if that shocked me, imagine how shocked I was to come in here and see Brad tip his hat.
Classy move, brother. :tu

[Scothew]

Im shocked at the outcome of the game. I expected more points from both sides, but on teh flip note, it was the defensive struggle I expected. But holding LSU back like they did, I did not expect.

OH well, glad the crystal is back in the state again :tu

[SvilleKid]

Well, the game was the defensive struggle I thought it would be. I am truly shocked at the lack of points from LSU. That outcome I would have bet against strongly! While it fits with Bama's defensive stats this year, there's no way anyone would have/should have expected that. I figured (especially when all Bama did in first half was FGs) the game would end up a reverse of the first game (Bama 9, LSU 6).

But I enjoyed the defensive excellence (from both teams) that is the mark of true championship teams (again, from both sides). Beat the heck out of watching most of the other bowl games where both teams pretty much scored at will. How many bowl games broke records in points scored, or other offensive catagories???

It's a two phase game. No defense, no national title or shot at a national title. Defense has been key in the SEC's wins over the last six seasons. The scores may not seem to reflect that in a couple of the games, but re-watch those games. Several were won befor the losing team tacked on a closing score where the winner basically traded a score that did not matter for time off the clock.

As far as boring..... I turned off most of the offense free-for-all bowl games at half time, because the looked like basketball games with all that uncontested running up and down the field, each team scoring at will! That's not football. That's barely half the game.

[Stephen]

You know, for all the smack that was talked, impressive to see you post such a classy post even in defeat. Honestly. It's sore losers and sore winners that make the game unbearable. Of course we all like to gloat a little when we win, and that's expected.
Maybe it's just me, but I liked watching in the second half as the other team helped guys up after the play was over. Mutual respect and classy.

[Stephen]

I wouldn't doubt if it sets alltime BCS viewership records.
You were right, Brad. *just not in the way you intended* (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34308344)
;s

[E.J.]

As far as boring..... I turned off most of the offense free-for-all bowl games at half time, because the looked like basketball games with all that uncontested running up and down the field, each team scoring at will! That's not football. That's barely half the game.

I turned off the game just after the half because it looked like a soccer game. Inability to come up with any offense, punt, punt, punt....that's barely half the game.....:r

From the ratings, it looks like I was not alone....

[Stephen]

I turned off the game just after the half because it looked like a soccer game.
Nah, soccer players are usually proficient at kicking.;)

[rizzle]

I'd like to congratulate the LSU Tigers on a fine season, as well as the rest of my SEC brethren. Not a bad showing through bowl season.

For the many PlayStation experts out there, those who wanted anyone in this game but Bama, and in particular Oklahoma State, you need to understand the most basic concept about college football...when a great defense full of athletes faces a great offense full of athletes, the great defense wins virtually every time. Virtually. Every. Time.

There is no need to endlessly defend the concept of defensive football and certainly no need to justify the value of anyone's entertainment dollar. It's as irrelevant as looking at the ratings from the first BCS game on cable only.

Hopefully we can be a little more mature on this thread next year and I apologize for my contributing to that nonsense. Till next year...Roll Tide!

[E.J.]

I'd like to congratulate the LSU Tigers on a fine season, as well as the rest of my SEC brethren. Not a bad showing through bowl season.

For the many PlayStation experts out there, those who wanted anyone in this game but Bama, and in particular Oklahoma State, you need to understand the most basic concept about college football...when a great defense full of athletes faces a great offense full of athletes, the great defense wins virtually every time. Virtually. Every. Time.

There is no need to endlessly defend the concept of defensive football and certainly no need to justify the value of anyone's entertainment dollar. It's as irrelevant as looking at the ratings from the first BCS game on cable only.

Hopefully we can be a little more mature on this thread next year and I apologize for my contributing to that nonsense. Till next year...Roll Tide!

Playstation experts? So again, numbers like sos and wins against ranked opponents don't count for anything....

For the record, I would like to think my comments(few as they have been) on this thread have been nothing but "adult".... Though truthfully, it appears that if you are not of the group think, you're a rebel rouser.....

As I said in another thread, I say congrats to the Bama faithful on their BCS Championship and LSU on a regular season unlike anything I have ever seen...

[OLS]

You know, for all the smack that was talked, impressive to see you post such a classy post even in defeat. Honestly. It's sore losers and sore winners that make the game unbearable.

If you remember on page 20, post 395, Longknocker asked me what I would say if Bama won. I told him :
"I will come into this thread and congratulate all of you, exactly the way I would have done it had you
beaten LSU at Tuscaloosa earlier. I told you as much a month ago. I still feel the same way...if bama beats
the Tigers, it won't be one play or another, it will be that we failed to execute our game plan, the plays
needed to score, and to otherwise secure victory. I have no problem praising the better team."

That's why I lost a lot of respect for some folks in the thread. They couldn't do that in the reverse situation.
No one knows losing hurts in this situation more than me. All you guys did was lose a squeaker. It ended up
not hurting you one bit. We lost it ALL. But no matter how cocky, partisan or obnoxious I am in preparation
for the game, I have the class to give credit where it's due after it's all over. You won't hear a lot of excuses
out of me. That's what bull5hi+ fans do.. We got our a55 whipped by a superior force. And not only that,
we looked like5hi+ doing it. Bama showed everyone what a juggernaut they are. They shut EVERYONE up.
At least the ones that know what they're talking about.

But all that baloney about how we ought to all be happy, cause it's still the SEC that won, F that. I am pi55ed
that we lost, and I now officially hate bama, lol.

[OLS]

One thing we do have to look forward to, more obnoxiousity by me, cause LSU is looking good for 2012.
Bama might be good too, not sure what they can do with what they might lose and what they WILL lose.
One thing for sure, McCarron is gonna be the QB to beat for best in the SEC. How embarassing was QB play this year?
LSU should have an easier time of it with the schedule in 2012, but it hurts to lose the big one after turning in the performance
we did with plate set before us. The way Oregon and WVU rose to the top was just like a 'meant to be' scenario. Ouch.
I don't follow it closely enough to know what all the other teams are going to be showing up with in 2012, so forgive me
if I leave the others out of my 'preview', lol.

[longknocker]

If you remember on page 20, post 395, Longknocker asked me what I would say if Bama won. I told him :
"I will come into this thread and congratulate all of you, exactly the way I would have done it had you
beaten LSU at Tuscaloosa earlier. I told you as much a month ago. I still feel the same way...if bama beats
the Tigers, it won't be one play or another, it will be that we failed to execute our game plan, the plays
needed to score, and to otherwise secure victory. I have no problem praising the better team."

That's why I lost a lot of respect for some folks in the thread. They couldn't do that in the reverse situation.
No one knows losing hurts in this situation more than me. All you guys did was lose a squeaker. It ended up
not hurting you one bit. We lost it ALL. But no matter how cocky, partisan or obnoxious I am in preparation
for the game, I have the class to give credit where it's due after it's all over. You won't hear a lot of excuses
out of me. That's what bull5hi+ fans do.. We got our a55 whipped by a superior force. And not only that,
we looked like5hi+ doing it. Bama showed everyone what a juggernaut they are. They shut EVERYONE up.
At least the ones that know what they're talking about.

But all that baloney about how we ought to all be happy, cause it's still the SEC that won, F that. I am pi55ed
that we lost, and I now officially hate bama, lol.

Thanks For Being A Good Sport, Brad!:tu I Don't Think Anyone Expected That Score. I Never Did Hear Les Miles Say Anything About BAMA Outplaying His Tigers, Did You?

[OLS]

Hopefully we can be a little more mature on this thread next year and I apologize for my contributing to that nonsense. Till next year...Roll Tide!
If everything goes your team's way, I can totally see that happening :rolleyes:

:lr

[OLS]

Thanks For Being A Good Sport, Brad!:tu I Don't Think Anyone Expected That Score. I Never Did Hear Les Miles Say Anything About BAMA Outplaying His Tigers, Did You?

Greg, I hate to say it, I didn't hear him say anything. I was asleep at the end, not from boredom, haha.
I expect him to say something like we got our butts whipped, hats off to Alabama, and to the coaches
and players. It has to be tough on him. He let himself be wildly out-coached. And the players deserved
better, much better. They had the kids to hang with bama. They know they were under-coached.
Shame. Miles has his hands full for a few months, probably 6-7.......

But great for the Tide, huh? Got to say, they made their fans very proud. ALL that sadness turned 180
degrees. I am sure the guy who is now internet famous and his crusty looking girlfriend must be TICKLED!

[rizzle]

One thing we do have to look forward to, more obnoxiousity by me
.
That's kinda stating the obvious, huh.

[rizzle]

How to pick your SEC school, in flowchart form. Pretty good. :tu

Clicky (http://mobile.redcuprebellion.com/2012/1/9/2690793/how-to-choose-your-sec-school-a-primer-for-disinterested-fans)

[Powers]

How to pick your SEC school, in flowchart form. Pretty good. :tu

Clicky (http://mobile.redcuprebellion.com/2012/1/9/2690793/how-to-choose-your-sec-school-a-primer-for-disinterested-fans)

:lr

That's great. Although they could have done a little more w/the Florida one

:tu

[McSmokey]

Sigining day anybody not watching bamsradio.com is missing out. Roll Tide!

[Powers]

14th straight year the SEC leads the nation in attendance :tu

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/40024/sec-again-leads-the-way-in-attendance

[hammondc]

I'm ready for 2012.......

[chippewastud79]

Chris Claiborne scores a 4 on his Wonderlic. How bad are the academic standards for athletes at LSU that this is possible? :hm

[Smokin Gator]

Not exactly in the football theme... but I wonder if there has ever been a time when one conference has held the national title in football, basketball, and baseball at one time?

[McSmokey]

Not exactly in the football theme... but I wonder if there has ever been a time when one conference has held the national title in football, basketball, and baseball at one time?

from Answers.com California, Michigan, and Ohio State are the ONLY schools to win all 3 Division I Championships but none have one them in the same year.

[SvilleKid]

Not exactly in the football theme... but I wonder if there has ever been a time when one conference has held the national title in football, basketball, and baseball at one time?

:banger:banger:D:tu

[Powers]

So the Mad Hatter is to blame for breaking 'Bama's trophy!

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/thegeneral320/ah.gif

:r :r

[rizzle]

Nice. :tu

[Powers]

:r

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/thegeneral320/PetrinosHogShop.jpg

[Powers]

War Eagle?

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/thegeneral320/e6206506ab4f11e192e91231381b3d7a_7.jpg

[OLS]

Don't be laughin at 80s hair, that is illegal, since most of us around here had some.
You kids with your youth and your book lernins' you think you are so supereari-or.

[OLS]

Psych..........to the top.

[Powers]

Best wedding cake EVER. Can't wait for some SEC football

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/thegeneral320/deadugacake.jpg

[OLS]

WOW

[hammondc]

Too early for a 2012 SEC thread?

[smitty81]

I'll be rootin for A&M

[Powers]

Too early for a 2012 SEC thread?

I wait until after the AP Preseason polls come out, which will be around August 18th this year

[OLS]

To the top, lol

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/uga-tailback-crowell-arrested-weapons-171624421--ncaaf.html

[OLS]

I wait until after the AP Preseason polls come out, which will be around August 18th this year

Then he'll LIE about how good UF is gonna be, spend a few weeks lying and then he will be struck by
the ugly dong of reality again this year. Of course I kid about all that. UF is great. At least they ain't UT
Oh but for one less little piece of a letter they might be. This is going to be the year we get our first
real taste of conference realignment and ship-jumping and what all that means to the greatest football
conference on the planet....I am looking forward to it with special relish, as I am boycotting the NFL this year.
So Saturdays are going to mean a little more to me this year. I guess that means I'll be doubly obnioxious.....sorry.

[Powers]

Then he'll LIE about how good UF is gonna be, spend a few weeks lying and then he will be struck by
the ugly dong of reality again this year. Of course I kid about all that. UF is great. At least they ain't UT
Oh but for one less little piece of a letter they might be. This is going to be the year we get our first
real taste of conference realignment and ship-jumping and what all that means to the greatest football
conference on the planet....I am looking forward to it with special relish, as I am boycotting the NFL this year.
So Saturdays are going to mean a little more to me this year. I guess that means I'll be doubly obnioxious.....sorry.

There is no lying involved in faith and bravado :D

PS - "ugly dong of reality" is my favorite metaphor of the day :r

[OLS]

Can't wait, dude......FL is gonna be up and coming, LSU might have at least one decent QB, Bama is going
to THINK they are reloading but end up a lil short. Hell even the VOLS might do something. I'd be lying if
I said I wasn't pumped to see everyone match up with the new kids on the block. For decades, A&M
and MIZZOU were UNWATCHABLE to me, now they might actually be interesting. And then we have the
new put up or shut up bowl (TM) coming soon, and we're also heading for a 4 team playoff. The NFL
can still kiss my entire a55 this year and it won't even matter. Even this thread, I can totally wait for the
2012 thread as long as I have the 2011 thread, haha.

[Stephen]

I admit I got a bit of a chuckle when I saw this shirt, although it should've ended with, "Roll Damn Tide"

http://friendsoftheprogram.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/rtrshirt.jpg

[Powers]

^^^ That's a hilarious shirt

[longknocker]

I admit I got a bit of a chuckle when I saw this shirt, although it should've ended with, "Roll Damn Tide"

http://friendsoftheprogram.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/rtrshirt.jpg

^^^ That's a hilarious shirt

You Know I Liked It!:D:banger

[E.J.]

Good read....

http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2012/07/06/uga-fan-response-to-uga-football-player-arrestmust-read/

[OLS]

I am going to be the first a55hole to say it, but any mention of those trees should be banned by court order.
It takes an awful lot of balls to write that on anything. I hate Alabama as much as the next guy, but when it
comes to the most embarrassing thing ever done in the name of FREAKING FOOTBALL, (outside of tripping over
a podium and shattering a $30k football) there are some things that should just be understood as taboo.

But like our Capstone folks here like to say "Who cares what you think, loudmouth."
-------------------
Lets drown some kittens after the game Saterdy. sheesh. (startin early this year, haha, sorry)

[OLS]

Good read....

WOW, that IS a good read. I think it's funny that in the age of $hi++er and Bookface, all these kids
have the (DIS?)advantage of all this instant ability to say tings that everyone who cares can hear,
but not to understand that it's only in their tiny little circle of yes-men that it seems like he is getting
'disrespected" and DIS-enfranchised and al the other Dis- words that they like to go on and on about.

I can tell you one thing, the stands will be PACKED in Athens when it is time to play ball, but if that
punk thinks he is gonna take the field and NOT be booed, he might as well go home now and start
his downfall early. It may be just a few plays worth of boos, but UGA fans don't have a nut
between em if they don't light him up for a MINIMUM of one game.

[Jefft72]

I'll be rootin for A&M

:tu Gig`Em.

I am hoping that my Ags can show some fight and not get too torn up this year. I am not a fan of the move to the SEC, but it is an exciting time to be a fan. New AD, new coach, and new conference.

[OLS]

Jeff, do you have reasons you would share about why the move is not good for you?
I am excited about the expansion and the hand grenade it throws into the leagues and
what is coming with the Big 12, etc. I am more excited about the Aggies than the Tigers,
but I will learn to love em like I do Vandy. I agree it's a great time to be a fan, SEC or AGgie

[Jefft72]

The move itself is interesting and really shakes things up. I am excited about the new rivalries that form and especially seeing how the new playoff system works out in a couple of years. The only real downside to the move is that we are leaving some long standing rivalries and traditions in the Big12.

I do believe that the move is great for the school from both national exposure and financial aspects, which who can argue with either of those. We will form new rivalries and new traditions. I am all in, and I am ready for football season to start.

[OLS]

I guess I forgot about that part. When I was a kid I never thought for a minute that LSU would ever NOT play Tulane
in a football year. Unthinkable. Today it's not only THINKable, it's almost forgotten that they ever played. But you
actually stand to win as a fan. Those games just became extremely important to those 'left behind'. For every one
that gets played going forward, you should see extra fervor, money, publicity and meaning. Choosing non-
conference is now a LOT harder, too. You want to keep old traditions alive, but playing someone too tough hurts
you when you already play 8 tough SEC games. It takes some getting used to. I like the way LSU was doing it
for many years, taking on tough Non-conference opponents to polish their possible credentials should they be
in the hunt at the end of the season. THIS YEAR it does not look like they have scheduled anyone that tough
out of conference. Shame, since it looks like they "COULD - GO - ALL - THE - WAY... :)

[OLS]

Lord, Michael, I just checked the schedule to find out who our ONE 'tough' out of conference opponent was
(Washington) and I saw that we have to go into the swamp this year....I call it a dangerous toss-up. Talk
about a season-wrecker for LSU and a season cementer for the Gators depending on how it goes.

[longknocker]

I guess I forgot about that part. When I was a kid I never thought for a minute that LSU would ever NOT play Tulane
in a football year. Unthinkable. Today it's not only THINKable, it's almost forgotten that they ever played. But you
actually stand to win as a fan. Those games just became extremely important to those 'left behind'. For every one
that gets played going forward, you should see extra fervor, money, publicity and meaning. Choosing non-
conference is now a LOT harder, too. You want to keep old traditions alive, but playing someone too tough hurts
you when you already play 8 tough SEC games. It takes some getting used to. I like the way LSU was doing it
for many years, taking on tough Non-conference opponents to polish their possible credentials should they be
in the hunt at the end of the season. THIS YEAR it does not look like they have scheduled anyone that tough
out of conference. Shame, since it looks like they "COULD - GO - ALL - THE - WAY... :)

Didn't You Think That Last Year, Brad? :D;s

[OLS]

You need to learn to delete quoted portions, Greg, lol...Do you mean did I think they could go all the way last year?
Of course I did. And they WOULD have, too, if somehow Bama had not been allowed to lose their division,
conference and head to head matchup and still end up in the CG....But I just say that for stats. You know how
I feel about them being in that game. I didn't like it, but I knew it was the only fair matchup. Then of course
it was made clear that they were the better team on that night. So yeah, I did say that last year. It's like Mike
says, its all part of being a fan and having expectations. Or I think he said Faith and Bravado...

[Powers]

Lord, Michael, I just checked the schedule to find out who our ONE 'tough' out of conference opponent was
(Washington) and I saw that we have to go into the swamp this year....I call it a dangerous toss-up. Talk
about a season-wrecker for LSU and a season cementer for the Gators depending on how it goes.

I agree with ya on that one, it'll be an interesting game. Muschamp needs a couple big wins this year to stay outta the hot seat next year, he needs to beat at least one and hopefully at least two of our matchups with LSU, FSU & UGA

[longknocker]

I'm Too Old For "Hi Tech", Brad!:r Looks Like LSU Is In The Driver's Seat Pre- Season. Is Your New Quarterback As Good As They Say?

[OLS]

He must be good enough to drive that other prospect to Notre Dame....wasn't it Notre Dame?? Gunner Kiel??
I know that few people follow the ins and outs of LSU football. I think we have two hot shots instead of one
idiot and one imperfect winner.

The team I am worried about is FLA after SEC Media Days. How did Muschamp's comment about hoping
to have a QB by the opener go over in FL? Scared me and I am not a fan, lol. One thing I DO KNOW Greg is that
the LSU coaches have proven several times they can take great talent and lose with it, so we'll see. But as you
know, I am boycotting the NFL, so LSU IS my football in 2012, so its on, babay. But any QB is better than what we
strapped ourselves to last year.

[OLS]

Add to that all the boy has to do is be competent, capable of throwing a decent forward pass, and check out
of trouble and I think it's at LEAST a step UP. With the talent LSU has this year, that's all we need, right?

[longknocker]

Add to that all the boy has to do is be competent, capable of throwing a decent forward pass, and check out
of trouble and I think it's at LEAST a step UP. With the talent LSU has this year, that's all we need, right?

I Think The Game On 11/03/12 In Baton Rouge Should Be "Very Interesting" To Both Of Us, Brother!:D

[OLS]

Yes Greg, I look forward to saying completely irrational things for 3 months straight,
but mostly I look forward to topping this thread to show off my new avatar.
Only football makes me care enough to have a killer season-avatar...seems like any
other time it's best for the new kids if we keep the same avatar so they'll know who
the hell is who. But during SEC time, it's time to hope and compel and root and boast
and enjoy. And I have Stephen on my ignore list, lol......................hater. :D

[longknocker]

Yes Greg, I look forward to saying completely irrational things for 3 months straight,
but mostly I look forward to topping this thread to show off my new avatar.
Only football makes me care enough to have a killer season-avatar...seems like any
other time it's best for the new kids if we keep the same avatar so they'll know who
the hell is who. But during SEC time, it's time to hope and compel and root and boast
and enjoy. And I have Stephen on my ignore list, lol......................hater. :D

:):banger Brad: My Best Friends Are Tennessee, Auburn, & LSU Fans, So I'm "Used" To It! Bring It On, Brother!:D

[hammondc]

Let's go Gamecocks!!!!

[OLS]

We get to see what Spurrier's got now. He's gonna write his legacy with this squad.

[Powers]

We get to see what Spurrier's got now. He's gonna write his legacy with this squad.

Not so fast my friend.

His legacy is already written. He's a championship coach who changed the SEC and thus college football forever with his offensive style. AKA his legacy is firmly established as the coach who made his alma mater a 5 star program and a national powerhouse. Secondly, as he's said countless times, he'll always be a Florida Gator first.

Remember, I'm graduating from Clemson for my MA within a week and have gotten into countless verbal altercations that nearly ended up in bar-fights defending Spurrier.

I believe you are getting at what his legacy will be at South Carolina :D

[rizzle]

Bwahahaha

[jjirons69]

Bwahahaha

One less Honey Badger makes me laugh, too, Ritchie!

[SvilleKid]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/sports/ncaafootball/tyrann-mathieu-is-off-louisiana-states-football-team.html?smid=fb-share

Drugs again, maybe??

[OLS]

Somehow I knew that SvilleKid would have an opinion on that story. I am sure there is no doubt it was drugs.
All we are getting now is "inside sources report..." My sister and I gave him a pass last year, kids are kids,
especially high profile ones. No matter how hard anyone wants to make the boy into a man to help their own
theories along, he is just a kid, and kids are prone to and bound to make mistakes. But this was without a doubt
the most bonehead move any kid could make at this point. I have pulled my support for him. These are likely
just the two instances we KNOW about. I am sure that there was no end of trouble with him for two years.
The fact that he's only considering Div 2A and community colleges means there is no way he is going to play
major college football again. He had a SMALL chance at making good money in the NFL at one time. Hell he was
close to being the Heisman Trophy winner. But now he has likely removed any chance that a kid that small can
make it in the league....baggage, and limited, though arguably very specialized skills. Too bad for him. he might
still find a spot on some team somewhere in a limited role at low pay. Sad.

LSU won't have any trouble replacing him, though.

[SvilleKid]

When I look at my local news and at fox news for NCAA football on my I phone, I see a lot of reports on players/recruits on a multitude of teams getting kicked off, held out of practice for cause, and/or is being investigated by the NCAA. I figure ALL the schools are going to be super vigilant in the wake of the Penn State situation.

I can't blame Miles AT ALL for releasing the player (last I saw was Mile's statement that several failed drug tests were involved). At some point, he has to chose between the team and the individual player. I know any coach would hope his program will turn around bad behavior and help kids that may not have a good role model or motivation from other sources. But at some point, it becomes counter productive, especially if the player refuses to stop the behavior that is at the root of the issue.

On the bright side, only 19 more days to the Bama opener! RTR! And the Bama Auburn game has moved back to a Saturday game this year! Going to be a tough season against the SEC on the road.

[OLS]

Alabama is fielding a team this year? Awesome.

As a drug user, I don't think it is so bad that a kid likes to smoke a little weed.
But I find it perplexing and moronic that someone in a situation like that kid was
in would not put off the gratification for a few years to secure a future for himself
and that of his family. His success is NOT assured by any means, he is too small
and non-prototypical. But he had a good SHOT. I am thinking this is another kid
who fails to realize that there is no money/living in being a ex-college football star.
Absolutely none. No matter how quick, clever, tenacious or flamboyant you were.

[Powers]

Waiting on the AP to release their preseason rankings to start the new thread :tt

Seems to be later this year than normal

[SvilleKid]

Waiting on the AP to release their preseason rankings to start the new thread :tt

Seems to be later this year than normal

I thought I saw that somewhere already, with LSU ranked No. 1, Bama ranked No. 4. Seemed like there were 6 or 7 SEC teams in the top 20. Hell, maybe I just imagined it. Or it was some media outlet poll, not the AP. :confused: Could just be oldtimerz disease acting up again!

[Powers]

I thought I saw that somewhere already, with LSU ranked No. 1, Bama ranked No. 4. Seemed like there were 6 or 7 SEC teams in the top 20. Hell, maybe I just imagined it. Or it was some media outlet poll, not the AP. :confused: Could just be oldtimerz disease acting up again!

That was the USA Today's Coachs' Poll. The AP poll is set to come out tmrw :tu

[OLS]

LSU seems to have dropped 3 spots without playing a game, haha.

Should be a fine season without that kid with the weed. Now if he wants to come over and watch the game,
I could craft a bong of sorts. :hm

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The 2012 SEC Thread:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57609