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Ken

07-15-2009, 10:38 AM

ya he's strong, he's also what, 40 lbs heavier than mir, laying on him with his football field of a chest? Some skill, some lying there. Screw lesnar, piece of ****.
I'll definitely have more tact in my post than Lesnar did in the post fight interview. :hf

Let's talk HW's. The HW division is for big guys who can't/won't cut 205. I believe the UFC goes up to 265. There are a number of fighters who are 240 and under. Only a few at 260+, one being Shane Carwin. If any of these other HW's feel they do not possess the ability to fight a bigger guy then they need to start dropping weight. Because Carwin is on his way up and others well be flooding in after TUF 10.

Let's talk weight. I can personally tell you that weight does help though it isn't that advantageous over skill and ability. Each week I wrestle guys any where from 40lbs heavier to 40lbs lighter and none of them are easy to keep down. Lesnar is a top notch wrestler who is an ace in the game of takedowns and control. That is skill and not just weight holding him down. And if Mir can not deal with an extra 20lbs on a no-skilled chump then he pretty much sucks himself. Weight is nice to have over someone, but if you don't bring anything else to the table your toast.

And "Some skill, some lying there.". Did you watch the fight? In the 1st round he pretty much had Mir in a crucifix with only using one arm. Lesnar's arms are long enough and strong enough to pull something like that off. And it took training and knowledge to pull off such a move. Then the subtle things like getting your legs into position to control the ground, passing the guard, and subs. Not understanging this leaving you open for legs locks or being easily swept by your opponent.
I thought that taking your opponent down and beating the snot out of them was actually called ground-n-pound. Because this is what Lesnar employed. He easily took Mir down, controlled the top in side mount, gained position by showing patience, and then beat the tar out him.
Lastly, at the beginning of the match Mir tried a toss, stuffed, then transitioned to a knee bar, and was stuffed again. I'm beside myself as to how anyone could watch this and say that Lesnar showed no skill.

He can't take a punch either! :rolleyes:

I never watched this guy in WWE, though I wanted to see him do well in the UFC. But now, to spite everyone else and piss them off I'm an official Brock nut hugger. He's my new BBF. :O (I'm not sure what a BBF is but my neice says is means everything.)

LordOfWu

07-15-2009, 10:48 AM

I respect the skill that Brock used to beat Mir, he was better, he won. Mir is a BJJ black belt, and even he knew he made some mistakes. Lesnar is a strong and skilled wrestler...and he can hit. There have been many champions in the UFC with those credentials.

What I do not respect is continuing to go after him (Mir) verbally after the fight, I don't respect the way he conducted himself in the interview with Joe. If this does not bother you, that's fine with me, but is shows incredibly poor sportsmanship, and a complete lack of respect for his opponent, the organization and the fans (or at least some of them).

Speaking for myself I don't hate Brock, I don't think he is the downfall of UFC...he just happens to be a fighter I don't care for. There are enough other guys who are drawing lots of people to the UFC who I do like. If Brock does it for you, good for you.

Steelergar

07-15-2009, 11:05 AM

i think mir's black belt in bjj is suspect. Supposedly he received it after 5 years of training? It takes 10-15 years to get a black belt from a respectable teacher. When Mir fought Nog he was avoiding the ground most of the time.

ActionAndy

07-15-2009, 11:24 AM

Best Buddy Forever.

BengalMan

07-15-2009, 04:01 PM

Ken

07-16-2009, 01:23 PM

What I do not respect is continuing to go after him (Mir) verbally after the fight, I don't respect the way he conducted himself in the interview with Joe.
Mir talked a lot of trash I think he got what was well deserved. I also believe that with more maturity in the business Brock's interview demeanor will change. Though I don't think he will nor would I want to see him become some PC nancyass tip toeing around as to not offend anyone.

goalie204

07-16-2009, 01:33 PM

NCRadioMan

07-16-2009, 06:24 PM

but is shows incredibly poor sportsmanship, and a complete lack of respect for his opponent, the organization and the fans (or at least some of them).

In your opinion. ;) Besides he has been saying since he lost that he has no respect for Mir. And I'm sure Dana was doing cartwheels about all this because it's the first time that the UFC was a major story on ESPN and other outlets for 4-5 days after the event. (they never mentioned Brocks antics after the fight either) There is no such thing as bad publicity. Hell, we're still talking about it. :r

If anybody hates him, they are feeding right out of his and Dana's hands. That's exactly the way they want you to feel. :r More people will buy the ppv's just to root against him. Every sport needs a good villain.

The most "classless", if you want to label somebody that, person in UFC history is Dana White. Read his interviews and he calls out other organizations and labels them losers all the time using the F bomb liberally. It gets him noticed and that's what it is all about.

And don't even talk about class and Rampage. :rolleyes:

First, the running from the cops thing and now this:

http://www.break.com/cage-potato/rampage-dry-humps-cagepotato-reporter.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jimmy_traina/07/09/heather.nicholes-not-happy-with-rampage-jackson/index.html

Traina: Has he apologized since then?
Nichols: No, not at all. He was very, very pleased with himself.

ActionAndy

07-17-2009, 05:17 AM

In your opinion. ;) Besides he has been saying since he lost that he has no respect for Mir. And I'm sure Dana was doing cartwheels about all this because it's the first time that the UFC was a major story on ESPN and other outlets for 4-5 days after the event. (they never mentioned Brocks antics after the fight either) There is no such thing as bad publicity. Hell, we're still talking about it. :r

If anybody hates him, they are feeding right out of his and Dana's hands. That's exactly the way they want you to feel. :r More people will buy the ppv's just to root against him. Every sport needs a good villain.

The most "classless", if you want to label somebody that, person in UFC history is Dana White. Read his interviews and he calls out other organizations and labels them losers all the time using the F bomb liberally. It gets him noticed and that's what it is all about.

And don't even talk about class and Rampage. :rolleyes:

First, the running from the cops thing and now this:

http://www.break.com/cage-potato/rampage-dry-humps-cagepotato-reporter.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jimmy_traina/07/09/heather.nicholes-not-happy-with-rampage-jackson/index.html

Traina: Has he apologized since then?
Nichols: No, not at all. He was very, very pleased with himself.

He's the guy that always talks about how this isn't boxing...And acts just like a silly boxing promoter. Have you seen the cover of that new magazine, where he's throwing fists at the camera? Yeah, you're a hard ass Dana!

I also despise the fact that he talks down fighters that he can't land. He tries saying things like Fedor's overrated in one breath, and in the next he's desparately trying to make a deal with him?

goalie204

07-17-2009, 05:44 AM

He's the guy that always talks about how this isn't boxing...And acts just like a silly boxing promoter. Have you seen the cover of that new magazine, where he's throwing fists at the camera? Yeah, you're a hard ass Dana!

I also despise the fact that he talks down fighters that he can't land. He tries saying things like Fedor's overrated in one breath, and in the next he's desparately trying to make a deal with him?

its....called....business.

Steelergar

07-17-2009, 10:29 AM

he was criticising cro crop too, when he heard a rumor that he signed a deal with DREAM. Then they turn around and sign a 3 fight deal with him. He is very unprofessional and talks too much garbage.

BengalMan

07-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Tito Ortiz and Dana White mend their relationship.

“UFC is not out of the picture…. There’s a possibility — I don’t know. I had a conversation with Dana last week, me and him spoke … we were really, really good friends at a point, best friends at a point, and everything got mucked up because of the fight game…. I wanted to be a man and squash things between me and him and wish him luck in his journeys and he did the same to me. So we kind of amended and squashed things, which is great. Dana showed the kind of person he is by apologizing to me and vice versa…. I’m very thankful for Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta from the UFC and I’m glad that me and Dana (White) kind of got to brush each other off. We may not still like each other or whatever but we came to amends — which is awesome. I gotta thank Strikeforce for giving me an opportunity and I want to thank Affliction for giving me an opportunity.”

I have a feeling this was done to get Tito back into the UFC and possibly be the main event opponent for Rich Franklin at 103. Right now Rich doesn't have an opponent for the main event.

NCRadioMan

07-17-2009, 03:15 PM

I also despise the fact that he talks down fighters that he can't land. He tries saying things like Fedor's overrated in one breath, and in the next he's desparately trying to make a deal with him?

Case in point below. :r

Tito Ortiz and Dana White mend their relationship.

“UFC is not out of the picture…. There’s a possibility — I don’t know. I had a conversation with Dana last week, me and him spoke … we were really, really good friends at a point, best friends at a point, and everything got mucked up because of the fight game…. I wanted to be a man and squash things between me and him and wish him luck in his journeys and he did the same to me. So we kind of amended and squashed things, which is great. Dana showed the kind of person he is by apologizing to me and vice versa…. I’m very thankful for Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta from the UFC and I’m glad that me and Dana (White) kind of got to brush each other off. We may not still like each other or whatever but we came to amends — which is awesome. I gotta thank Strikeforce for giving me an opportunity and I want to thank Affliction for giving me an opportunity.”

I have a feeling this was done to get Tito back into the UFC and possibly be the main event opponent for Rich Franklin at 103. Right now Rich doesn't have an opponent for the main event.

NCRadioMan

07-17-2009, 05:12 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AjMVJcTF4q3wz_wGzbXPZww9Eo14?slug=dm-lesnar071709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Great article on the double standard applied to Lesnar.

Of all the pro wrestlers who have come into the sport, only two – Lesnar and non-UFC fighter Bobby Lashley – have ever been disrespected by fellow fighters for being a pro wrestler. In Lesnar’s four UFC fights, only one opponent didn’t throw some kind of variation on “It’s not the WWE,” at him before the fight. In hyping the match, Mir implied Lesnar was strong but clueless when it came to fighting. Heath Herring and his camp had complained behind-the-scenes to company officials that it was a joke he was even put in the ring with a fake pro wrestler, and made public comments about how the punches were going to be real.

The only opponent who didn’t disrespect Lesnar before the fight was Couture. The only opponent Lesnar didn’t trash talk afterward was Couture. Coincidence?

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UFC 100 took place July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. In the night's pay-per-view main event, UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar ground and pounded his way to a second-round TKO victory over interim title-holder Frank Mir. Lesnar wasn't issued a suspension, but Mir is sidelined until Sept. 10 for precautionary reasons.

The full list of suspensions includes:

Frank Mir: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons
Georges St. Pierre: Must have groin injury cleared by an orthopedic doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8. Even if cleared, suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons.
Thiago Alves: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons
Michael Bisping: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons
Yoshihiro Akiyama: Must have left orbital fractured cleared by an ophthalmologist. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8. Even if cleared, suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons
Stephan Bonnar: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons
Mac Danzig: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 due to a head laceration
Jim Miller: Must have right shoulder and clavicle X-rayed and cleared by a doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8
Jake O'Brien: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons
T.J. Grant: Suspended until Aug. 2 with no contact until July 26 for precautionary reasons
C.B. Dollaway: Suspended until Aug. 11 with no contact until Aug. 2 for precautionary reasons
Matt Grice: Suspended until Sept. 10 with no contact until Aug. 26 for precautionary reasons
Shannon Gugerty: Must have lower back pain cleared by a doctor. Otherwise, suspended until Jan. 8

UFC 100, which took place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, had a total disclosed payroll of $1,790,000.

The payroll figure does not include a $400,000 that was awarded for "fight night" bonuses that were handed out after the event. Each award winner received a record $100,000.

UFC 100, the UFC's heavily promoted and long-awaited milestone event, drew a soldout crowd estimated at 11,000 and assuming the preliminary figures hold up the second-largest gate in UFC history with $5.1 million in ticket sales.

The full payouts for the event included:

Jon Fitch: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus)
def. Paulo Thiago: $8,000

Brock Lesnar: $400,000 (no win bonus)
def. Frank Mir: $45,000

Georges St-Pierre: $400,000 ($200,000 win bonus)
def. Thiago Alves: $60,000

Dan Henderson: $250,00 ($150,000 win bonus)
def. Michael Bisping: $150,000

Yoshihiro Akiyama: $60,000 ($20,000 win bonus)
def. Alan Belcher: $19,000

Mark Coleman: $100,000 ($50,000 win bonus)
def. Stephan Bonnar: $25,000

Jim Miller: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus)
def. Mac Danzig: $20,000

Jon Jones: $18,000 ($9000 win bonus)
def. Jake O'Brien: $13,000

Dong Hyun Kim: $58,000 ($29,000 win bonus)
def. T.J. Grant: $5,000

Tom Lawlor: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus)
def. C.B. Dollway: $14,000

Shannon Gugerty: $10,000 ($5,000 win bonus)
def. Matt Grice: $7,000

The UFC awarded $100,000 each to Akiyama and Belcher (Fight of the Night), Henderson (KO of the Night, duh!) and Lawlor (Submission of the Night).

Keith Kizer, Executive Director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, on Friday released post-fight drug test results for UFC 100, which took place on July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center.

Thirteen athletes were tested for performance enhancing substances and drugs of abuse: Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, Georges St. Pierre, Thiago Alves, Dan Henderson, Yoshihiro Akiyama, Jon Fitch, Jon Jones, Mark Coleman, Jim Miller, Dong Hyun Kim, Tom Lawlor, and Shannon Gugerty.

All athletes tested negative.
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A UFC 103 welterweight bout between veterans Martin Kampmann (15-2 MMA, 6-1 UFC) and Mike Swick (14-2 MMA, 9-1 UFC) will, in fact, determine a No. 1 contender to challenge for UFC welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre's championship belt.

Starscream

07-19-2009, 07:50 PM

And don't even talk about class and Rampage. :rolleyes:

First, the running from the cops thing and now this:

http://www.break.com/cage-potato/rampage-dry-humps-cagepotato-reporter.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jimmy_traina/07/09/heather.nicholes-not-happy-with-rampage-jackson/index.html

Traina: Has he apologized since then?
Nichols: No, not at all. He was very, very pleased with himself.

This is why I called Jackson a douchebag in my earlier post.

Starscream

07-19-2009, 07:53 PM

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The full payouts for the event included:

Jon Fitch: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus)
def. Paulo Thiago: $8,000

Brock Lesnar: $400,000 (no win bonus)
def. Frank Mir: $45,000

Georges St-Pierre: $400,000 ($200,000 win bonus)
def. Thiago Alves: $60,000

Dan Henderson: $250,00 ($150,000 win bonus)
def. Michael Bisping: $150,000

Yoshihiro Akiyama: $60,000 ($20,000 win bonus)
def. Alan Belcher: $19,000

Mark Coleman: $100,000 ($50,000 win bonus)
def. Stephan Bonnar: $25,000

Jim Miller: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus)
def. Mac Danzig: $20,000

Jon Jones: $18,000 ($9000 win bonus)
def. Jake O'Brien: $13,000

Dong Hyun Kim: $58,000 ($29,000 win bonus)
def. T.J. Grant: $5,000

Tom Lawlor: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus)
def. C.B. Dollway: $14,000

Shannon Gugerty: $10,000 ($5,000 win bonus)
def. Matt Grice: $7,000

The UFC awarded $100,000 each to Akiyama and Belcher (Fight of the Night), Henderson (KO of the Night, duh!) and Lawlor (Submission of the Night).

Keith Kizer, Executive Director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, on Friday released post-fight drug test results for UFC 100, which took place on July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center.

Wow. Just wow. I'd love to be a loser in UFC! Many of them made more in one night than what I make in a year! :)

Steelergar

07-19-2009, 09:18 PM

Starscream

07-19-2009, 10:42 PM

All this Dana White talk makes me think of this guy named Jon C.:hm

NCRadioMan

07-20-2009, 09:56 AM

DREAM 10 is live at 3:00 a.m, set your tivo if you have HD net. It replays again on friday at 10:00 p.m and saturday at 4:00 p.m. keep an eye on welterweight galvo he is a bjj phenomenon and trains with anderson silva and he is only 23 years old.
Great card with great fights as always with Dream. Just finished watching them. I didn't think Paulo Filho would pull it off after getting rocked several times but it only takes one mistake by Manhoef and he exploits that mistake as good as anyone in the world. Sakurai vs Zarmoskis was an amazing fight too. A great stand-up brawl. TUF idiot Jesse Taylor got a win but not really when his opponent suffered a dislocated knee.

With the date now official for the second round of DREAM's open-weight "Super Hulk" tournament, the organization has now made the matchups official.

As was previously rumored, Hong Man Choi (2-2) meets Ikuhisa Minowa (42-30-8), while Gegard Mousasi (25-2-1) faces Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (6-4) at DREAM.11 on Oct. 6 in Kanagawa, Japan.

DREAM officials made the matchups official during Monday's DREAM.10 broadcast on HDNet.

The "Techno Goliath" earned his way to the semifinals with a 77-second shellacking of former baseball star Jose Canseco at May's DREAM.9. The 7-foot-2 super-heavyweight will enjoy a significant size advantage over "Minowaman," though that didn't matter much in "The Punk's" first-round matchup.

Minowa needed just 75 seconds to submit the massive Bob Sapp in his first-round contest. The 13-year-veteran has made a career of taking on all comers, and the bout with Choi, who is nearly twice Minowa's weight, will certainly maintain the "freak show" feel made famous in Japan.

Mousasi, who will first face Renato "Babalu" Sobral at the Aug. 1 event "Affliction: Trilogy," made his way to the "Super Hulk" semifinals with a 79-second submission win over Mark Hunt. Mousasi is currently on an impressive 12-fight win streak.

Sokoudjou broke out of a recent slump and earned a first-round win over kickboxer Jan Nortje in May. The explosive win ended in controversial fashion when Sokoudjou delivered a few hotly contested blows that some deemed unnecessary. Sokoudjou later apologized for the blows.

DREAM.11 will also feature the semifinals and finals of DREAM's current featherweight grand prix.

Steelergar

07-21-2009, 12:28 AM

I just finished watching the fights, jason high got brutally knocked out in the welterweight finals. They also announced shinya aoki vs hansen for the lightweight championship and souza vs jason miller rematch will probably happen as well.

Steelergar

07-24-2009, 01:37 PM

Rickson Gracie says Brock Lesnar has many holes in his game and he could submit Lesnar easier than Fedor.

NCRadioMan

07-24-2009, 02:29 PM

Rickson Gracie says Brock Lesnar has many holes in his game and he could submit Lesnar easier than Fedor.

He has holes, obviously, as he is still very young in the game but sorry, that's just laughable. :r Fedor RULZ the world!

So much for Affliction being a major player. :r

Affliction scraps 'Trilogy' card altogether

By Josh Gross, SI.com

In a matter of days Affliction Entertainment's "Trilogy" event when from promising the top heavyweight fight in mixed martial arts to being cancelled outright, multiple sources confirmed to SI.com Friday morning.

Affliction Entertainment vice president began making calls with the news Friday morning to fighters scheduled to appear on the Aug. 1 card, SI.com has learned.

The abrupt change comes in the wake of 31-year-old Josh Barnett testing positive for banned substances following a California State Athletic Commission pre-fight drug test.

BengalMan

07-24-2009, 09:42 PM

What a strange day in MMA. It now appears that Affliction and the UFC have come to terms with each other to let Affliction once again promote and sponsor UFC fighters. It is currently unknown as to what will happen with the contracts of the fighters on Affliction and if they were a part of negotiations. Dana White also posted on his Twitter that Tito Ortiz is back in the UFC as well.....

Steelergar

07-24-2009, 10:18 PM

Even wikipedia is saying affliction is defunct as of today. I would like to see Fedor in DREAM for a heavyweight tournament they will likely have soon. But Sengoku has Antonio Silva who experts say has the best chance to beat Fedor. They also have the guy that defeated Fedor in combat sambo last year making his mma a debut august 2nd and he expressed that he wants to face Fedor in mma. But than again Rickson gracie might come out of retirement and choke him out.

NCRadioMan

07-25-2009, 01:32 AM

FIGHTERS REELING AS AFFLICTION CLOSES MMA SHOP
Friday, July 24, 2009 - by Steven Marrocco - MMAWeekly.com

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http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9222&zoneid=13

Word from Afflictions rank-and-file fighters this morning was that no one was getting paid. A little over a week out from an expected payday at Affliction Trilogy, most are still floored over the events sudden cancellation early Friday.

Theres no words that can even describe it, said Jay Hieron, who was scheduled to face Paul Daley on the events undercard. Its still fresh for me. Ive already paid all my trainers. I trained my ass off for this fight. Affliction vice president Tom Atencio on Friday said the loss of co-main event fighter Josh Barnett proved an insurmountable hurdle for the young promotion to overcome, and that pulling the plug was the only option.

Until Thursday night, the MMA world was holding its breath over who would replace Barnett to face Fedor Emelianenko. The front runner, middleweight Vitor Belfort, had drawn mixed reviews from both fans and media, mainly because the match-up would deprive them of a main card showdown with Sengoku champ Jorge Santiago.

Now, there will be no match-ups to look forward to. According to a UFC official, Affliction is ceasing its fight operations to become an official UFC sponsor. For Hieron, its the second time hes had a major promotion roll up its tent and leave him in the lurch. I think Ive been through everything thats bad in this sport, he said. I dont know what I havent been through yet. I know everything happens for a reason I hope its a good reason.

Standard fight contracts rarely allow for compensation in light of a cancelled event. For all but the top-drawing fighters, a cancelled show means months of hard work out the door. The only recourse, it seems, is to look for another fight.

To tell you the truth, I dont know whats going to happen, said Paul Buentello, who was due to fight Gilbert Yvel on the main card. It took a lot of wind out of my sails.

Multiple sources have indicated to MMAWeekly.com that several managers are attempting to place their fighters on two upcoming cards: Carano vs. Cyborg, due for Aug. 15 at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., and M-1 Globals Breakthrough, due for Aug. 28 at the Los Angeles Convention Center.

Afflictions deal with the UFC could mean work for some, but its unknown who will fold into the industry leading promotion and who will be a free agent. Most Affliction fighters were tied to non-exclusive three-fight deals, although many chose not to take fights in other promotions.

Strikeforce is entertaining either Jay Hieron or his originally scheduled opponent, Paul Daley, as a new opponent for Nick Diaz on Aug. 15. Diazs original opponent, Joe Riggs, withdrew from the fight on Friday morning.

Daley is game. I have trained so damned hard for this fight, probably the hardest ever and I am in great shape and now this happens. I still want a fight if they need someone to replace Riggs against Nick Diaz give me a call. It has also been tossed around that Affliction fighters Ben Rothwell or Gilbert Yvel are being considered to replace Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem, who had to withdraw from his title defense against Fabricio Werdum. A lot of fighters could still be out of work. One fighter places the blame squarely on Barnett.

Bottom line is, Josh Barnett should pay everybody, said Rothwell, who had drawn Chase Gormley for his undercard fight. He (expletive) up, bad.

But Rothwell and Buentello, both longtime veterans of the sport, agree that Affliction was not to blame for the cancellation.

They didnt do it, said Rothwell. They didnt make (Barnett) do the drug test.

Buentello said he would continue training until next week and decide what to do from there.

Right now, Im eating a big old helping of biscuits and gravy, he said. Im gonna be myself today and just relax. Take the day off.

Others werent so sure of their next step.

I dont just feel bad for myself, I feel bad for all the other fighters who arent going to make money, said Rothwell. I feel bad for Affliction. I feel for the fans. Everybody suffers.

Ken

07-27-2009, 02:22 PM

Crazy week in MMA. This my be the final chance the UFC has to try and land Fedor. Dana White said if they get Fedor that he'll get the title shot for his 1st fight, hard to argue, though I'd like to see him fight Randy one way or another. Sign him this week and everyone can start preparing for Brock vs Fedor.

It's a shame about Riggs, I wanted to see that rematch. Pretty sure Diaz would punish him, though.

ActionAndy

07-27-2009, 02:44 PM

When (if) Clint Eastwood dies, Fedor will be the raddest man walking.

NCRadioMan

07-27-2009, 07:47 PM

Babalu/Mousasi Title at Strikeforce Confirmed

The first two pieces of the scrambled puzzle left by Affliction's recent demise have fallen into place as Strikeforce light heavyweight champion Renato "Babalu" Sobral (35-8) will defend his title against Gegard Mousasi (25-2-1) on Aug. 15.

Sobral and Mousasi, who were originally scheduled to meet at the now-canceled "Affliction: Trilogy," will instead step into the cage at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., on the main card of "Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg," which airs live on Showtime.

Mousasi will compete on the card with a new Strikeforce contract, Afromowitz said, and not as a loaned commodity from M-1.

Mousasi is currently riding a 12-fight win streak, including a successful run to DREAM's middleweight crown in 2008, as well as a current semifinalist in DREAM's open-weight "Super Hulk" tournament.

The new contract is not likely to affect Mousasi's position in DREAM's tournament, as the Japanese-based organization and Strikeforce have a history of working together to share talent.

Sobral will take a five-fight win streak into the contest, and the Brazilian has won 15 of his past 17 contests. "Babalu" earned Strikeforce's 205-pound belt with a TKO win over Bobby Southworth in November 2008.

While previously announced competitors Fabricio Werdum and Nick Diaz are still without opponents following the withdrawal of Alistair Overeem and Joe Riggs due to various ailments, Afromowitz said he was unable to make any other announcements at this time.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15648/renato-babalu-sobral-to-defend-strikeforce-title-against-gegard-mousasi-on-aug-15.mma

Frank Mir May Face Cheick Kongo At UFC 107

A heavyweight battle between Cheick Kongo and two-time former UFC champion Frank Mir may take place at UFC 107 in Memphis, Tennessee.

Kongo (14-5-1) dropped a convincing unanimous decision to Cain Velasquez at UFC 99 in his last outing. Mir last fought Brock Lesnar at UFC 100 a couple weeks back. Although Mir fought valiantly, he was simply overpowered by the massive undisputed heavyweight champion.

Mirs camp says they have not yet been approached about the scrap, however they are definitely interested in taking the fight.

http://www.fightline.com/news/mma/2009/0726/430716/frank_mir/index.shtml

ActionAndy

07-27-2009, 09:15 PM

NCRadioMan

07-27-2009, 10:38 PM

Speaking of Carano...How do you guys feel about Women's MMA? Personally I think it's exactly like the WNBA: glad you're having fun, but I'm just not interested. Although I do like MMA quite a bit (and hate basketball) so I do still find myself watching if it's on...

I love it. When you get a couple of good bjj girls going, they can bend in all kinds of ways to get a sub. I've seen some amazing things. There are a handful of really great women fighters and I enjoy them as much as the men. Carano, Cyborg, Tara Larosa, Megumi Fujii, Rosi Sexton, Kelly Kobold, Carina Damm and a few more are all really good.

GoatLocker

07-27-2009, 11:08 PM

How do you guys feel about Women's MMA?

Ummm, no interest whatsoever. (nttawwt) I have not seen it, and would definitely change channels once I got past the "train wreck syndrome"... :rolleyes:

NCRadioMan

07-27-2009, 11:12 PM

Satoko Shinashi is another awesome fighter. Check this out. She is the real deal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf9W9luyxHw

Not only is Gina Carano very good looking, she kicks arse!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukc3Wd0v4Pw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku4xU1oDHaA&feature=related

NCRadioMan

07-28-2009, 12:14 AM

Fertitta Still pursuing Fedor

"We want Fedor" . . . Most MMA organizations would utter these words regarding WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko, however they're much more powerful when spoken by UFC co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta. "We want Fedor", Fertitta said of the Russian during a recent Q & A session for Fighter's Only Magazine. The following day, UFC president Dana White parlayed that sentiment by stating, "Eventually, Fedor's going to be here. I want Fedor. I want him to come to the UFC... We'll end up getting that deal done, and then we'll do Brock vs. Fedor, and it'll be a huge fight."

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/111500-fertitta-still-pursuing-fedor

RRocket

07-28-2009, 12:29 AM

The ONLY woman who I've ever followed in MMA/Thai was Lucia Rjiker. She fought like a friggen' man! She had so much balls, she even fought a former MALE champion in Thai fight. Yea, she was knocked out, but even to be game enough is amazing. 37-0, 25 KO. 4 World Titles.

She'd break Carano in half.

Ken

07-28-2009, 06:19 AM

Babalu/Mousasi Title at Strikeforce Confirmed

Frank Mir May Face Cheick Kongo At UFC 107

Not a Babalu fan, but glad to see this fight get held together. This should be good!

I will definitely be pulling for Mir in this fight. It'll probably get done; makes sense.

How do you guys feel about Women's MMA?
I like it, as long as there are good fighters. My only knock on women fighters is they have more a tendency to stand toe-2-toe and trade punches. Not bad, but not good strategy. I'd be shocked if Gina mixed up the clinch and goes for a takedown to avoid Cyborg's big punches.

NCRadioMan

07-29-2009, 03:18 AM

Not sure what to believe.

Fedor Emelianenko, UFC finalizing deal

A long-awaited agreement between the Ultimate Fighting Championship and the man considered the world's best mixed martial arts fighter, Fedor Emelianenko, is expected to be announced by UFC President Dana White on Friday, a source with information about the negotiations told The Times today.

The source, who asked not to be identified because he's not authorized to speak publicly about the dealings, called negotiations between the UFC and Fedor "very civil" just days after Fedor's scheduled Affliction Trilogy fight Saturday against Josh Barnett was canceled.

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M-1 Global says Fedor, UFC not close to a deal

M-1 Global says Fedor, UFC not close to a deal Story Highlights
The news contradicts a recent report by the Los Angeles Times
Dana White was rumored to be close to signing Fedor to UFC

By Josh Gross, SI.com
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/mma/07/28/Emelianenko.Octagon/

Denying a published report Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times, M-1 Global officials told SI.com that Fedor Emelianenko and the Ultimate Fighting Championship are not close to finalizing a deal that would bring mixed martial arts' top heavyweight in the Octagon.

"I can give you a guarantee it's not accurate," said Apy Echteld of M-1 Global, a St. Petersburg, Russia-based promotion and management company of which Emelianenko is an equity stakeholder.

According to the Times' report -- which referenced an unnamed source unaffiliated with the UFC and "with information about the negotiations" -- UFC president Dana White was set to announce the signing of Emelianenko on Friday. The source also said negotiations between the top MMA promoter and the Russian champion's camp were "very civil," and that both groups were discussing details on the pending public announcement.

Echteld declined to comment on negotiations between M-1 Global and the UFC, which are rumored to be taking place Tuesday in Los Angeles. He pointed to a press conference Wednesday in Anaheim, Calif., for "important" news on Emelianenko's fate.

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http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Report-Dana-White-to-announce-UFC-signing-of-Fedor-Emelianenko.html

A source close to Fedor Emelianenko's camp has exclusively informed FiveKnuckles.com, that rumors stating UFC President Dana White will announce the signing of Emelianenko at a press conference scheduled for this Friday are accurate.

The information was first broken by the LA Times.

Our source tells us that a fight between Emelianenko and Brock Lesnar is in preliminary discussions for UFC 103, which is set for Dallas, TX on Sept. 19 and would be for Lesnar's UFC heavyweight title.

NCRadioMan

07-29-2009, 03:50 AM

For those of you who never got to see the PRIDE promotion in Japan and for long-time fans, this is a must-see!

Pride Decade

Pt. 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFQ0V8TcyvY&feature=channel
Pt. 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuV-ff0yM78&feature=related
Pt. 3A - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDzEfRZI0DA&feature=channel
Pt. 3B - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5qYUDVRRBk&feature=channel
Pt. 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ZOniq5KHM&feature=channel
Pt. 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg4spi1Gwjs&feature=channel
Pt. 6A - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJkCgywSbxM&feature=channel
Pt. 6B - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBWF49uiRkY&feature=channel
Pt. 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76pgXxgElY&feature=channel
Pt. 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Mhc4eH8Qw&feature=channel
Pt. 9 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLa_KqxQQsg&feature=channel
Pt. 10A - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JysZumDskE&feature=channel
Pt. 10B - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ZCP-ulKO0&feature=channel
Pt. 11 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr2vHHVMu08&feature=channel
Pt. 12 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_7LL41JjCY&feature=channel
Pt. 13 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyE0O2Nzj_Y&feature=channel
Pt. 14 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb8L5GIGArM&feature=channel (just closing credits)

Steelergar

07-29-2009, 09:17 AM

nice post NCradioman, I have only watched part one so far but I guess this was made before they folded?

Steelergar

07-29-2009, 12:40 PM

Vitor Belfort is going to fight a Savati kickboxer in Betetti Combat promotion in Brazil. It is the first mma promotion to be brodcast live on network TV in Brazil. Lil Nog is on the card fighting the self proclaimed Brazilian killer Alex Stiebling. Ricardo Arona is also on the card making his return to mma after 2 and a half years. Paul Filho and Pedro Rizzo is on the card as well. It takes place Sep 12th.

NCRadioMan

07-30-2009, 12:23 AM

Anderson Silva has signed to box Roy Jones Jr.

UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson The Spider Silva (24-4) has made it clear that he plans on retiring from the UFC once his contract expires. As of now, Anderson has four fights with the Ultimate Fighting Championships, the most recent on August 8th in Philadelphia against contender Forrest Griffin.

However, according to Anderson himself in a recent conversation with Fighters Only Magazine, he has no intentions of retiring from hand-to-hand combat altogether once hes through in the Ocatagon.

Its been talked about for close to a year now and Silva has recently confirmed that there is no question about it; hes going to box Roy Jones Jr. As a matter of fact, contracts have been inked and its only a matter of time from here.

It is undoubted that I will face Roy Jones, revealed Silva. We have talked too much, have signed some contracts and we want to make it the sooner the better. Its not for money or spotlight, its for my desire.

I watch Roy Jones since he competed as an amateur and in the Olympic Games. Im looking forward to this fight to put in the ring everything I know, to show my students in the future that I understand what I may say over this or that and dont seem a pirate parrot.

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M-1: No Fedor in UFC Without Co-Promoting

ANAHEIM, Calif. -- Fedor Emelianenko, the top-ranked heavyweight in the world, will not fight in the UFC unless Dana White and company agree to co-promote with Emelianenkos partners at M-1 Global.

M-1 Global CEO Vadim Finkelstein made that clear Wednesday at a news conference in Anaheim, Calif. Finkelstein confirmed that M-1 Global had negotiated with UFC officials as recently as Tuesday.

We are open, Finkelstein said. We do want to work with the UFC. We do want to work with other promotions.

Finkelstein said the UFC made a new offer to Emelianenko, and M-1 Global made a counteroffer. However, Finkelstein said Emeliananko would not proceed without a co-promotional effort between M-1 and the UFC where they shared expenses and profits.

Finkelstein also communicated that the UFC's representation in the media of his negotiations with the organization has not been accurate. He said Emelianenko has been made completely aware of any deals, past and present, that have been offered.

"I have 100 percent faith in Vadim and M-1 Global," Emelianenko said.

M-1 Global also pressured the UFC by saying they are in talks with other shows, including Strikeforce.

We're not going to wait, Finkelstein said. We have to move forward. It might be that very soon we will be able to announce a deal with another promotion. I'm going to tell you that we're only going to work under co-promotion conditions.

Interesting. Dana would be an idiot not to co-promote with M-1. I can see M-1 and Strikeforce becoming a major, major player.

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Aleksander Emelianenko Blames Fedor's Manager
By Raj Giri | July 28, 2009
FightLine.com Staff

Aleksander Emelianenko Blames Fedor's Manager For Fedor Not Being In The UFCAleksander Emelianenko, brother of Fedor Emelianenko, feels that Fedor's manager, Vadim Finkelstein, is the reason why the UFC and his brother can't come to terms on a deal. Aleksander believes that Finkelstein is only interested in pushing his own business projects through his brother's fights.

"You can deal with UFC, I know that they have flexible contract system," Aleksander Emelianenko told Sports.ru. "All these talks about 'strict' contract terms with signing with UFC, come ONLY from Vadim Finkelstein, who wants to push his owns business projects through Fedor's fights"

Fedor appeared to be headed to the UFC in June of 2007, however negotations failed after Finkelstein demanded that the UFC work with his Russian M-1 Global promotion and permit Emelianenko to compete in combat sambo tournaments.

The UFC has since stated that they may allow Fedor to continue to compete in sambo to sign him. However, Finkelchtein still wants Fedor's fights to be co-promotional efforts with M-1 Global, a term virtually guaranteed to not be accepted by the UFC.

This is the moment of truth that the UFC has talked about," Finkelchtein told Mixfight.ru over the weekend. "We want to talk to the UFC about having Fedor compete against some of their fighters, but only within the framework of co-promotional efforts with M-1 Global.

Ken

07-30-2009, 08:04 AM

The offer being reported that the UFC is giving to Fedor will be the largest ever done. They will make Fedor and the M-1 morons very rich. 30 million plus PPV cuts and free M-1 advertising and Fedor can go back to Russia and play Sambo. Fedor would be an idiot if he doesn't cut the cord to this guys.

I'm telling you now, if he doesn't sign with the UFC I'll never bother with another one of his fights. If he truely wants to fight the best and prove himself here's his chance. And being led like a dog by M-1 he'll get his 1mil cut out of the whole deal.

goalie204

07-30-2009, 08:10 AM

I think fedors a great fighter....he has proven it time and time again, but i just see ufc as a different animal, even tho he's already beaten like 5 former ufc hw champs, i don't know maybe it's just a feeling i have

Steelergar

07-30-2009, 01:39 PM

Fedor is part owner of M-1 which is why he wants copromotion. 5 million is a joke compared to the 12 plus million he would get from a copromoted fight. Every mma orginization copromotes except the UFC because their trying to monopolize the sport. There are better matchups out there for Fedor to take anyway. The UFC heavyweight division is still a joke. In my opinion Brock is paper champ that brings more money to Zuffa. and why does it have to be a 6 fight contract?

Ken

07-30-2009, 02:14 PM

The UFC is offering much more than 5 million. And as far I as know Fedor doesn't own any part of M-1, his manager does. Vadim Finkelstein takes care of the negotiations and Fedor states that he trusts him with what ever decisions he makes.

M-1 brings very little to the table for co-promotion. They could possibly help the UFC into the Russian and Asian markets.

There are 1 or 2 legit fights for Fedor and then he'll be back to the circus. He can go to Dream and fight Barnett as they do not care about roids.

Steelergar

07-30-2009, 02:23 PM

BengalMan

07-30-2009, 03:33 PM

yeah there offering 30 million total but if Fedor wins his first fight, he is worth more than 5 million a fight. and yes Fedor is a shareholder in M-1. Outside of America Fedor is hugely popular while Brock is relatively unknown. M-1 promotes fights all over the world.

Fedor has next to no mainstream draw. Look at the lame Affliction PPV numbers they were doing. The only reason Fedor would make that kind of money is because he would be fighting what's likely to be the UFC's biggest PPV draw in history, Brock Lesnar. Him headlining 100 did more PPV buys than any other PPV. If he continues to run through opponents like has, there is no doubt he'll be a bigger draw than Chuck and Tito.

In conclusion, Fedor isn't worth more than $5 million a fight, he's not worth close to five million simply because he doesn't have the mainstream draw at this point. The UFC will go on without Fedor and will continue to flourish while Fedor and his insane management go and fight the likes of Brett Rogers. The risk to sign to the UFC is just too much to Fedor. Him and Vlad will go on kidding themselves thinking Fedor deserves to be number one, when in reality, they're ducking the competition that lies in the UFC. If he's so bad, prove it. If not, I could care less about him or any of his future fights as do the rest of the majority of casual MMA fans. The only worthwhile opponents out there that aren't in the UFC I can see are Overeem and Barnett. Hey, maybe we'll get Fedor vs. Jose Canseco on NYE this year!

Steelergar

07-30-2009, 04:30 PM

Antonio Silva and the guy that beat fedor in combat sambo, and roger gracie are more opponents for him. Who does the UFC have to give him a serious competition?

BengalMan

07-30-2009, 04:41 PM

The guy that beat fedor in sambo that's never had an MMA match? Antonio Silva I agree with though. Roger Gracie has had 2 fights, one 3 years ago and one a year ago. Sure he's a Gracie, but that's about it. As far as the UFC, there's obviously Brock. If he gets by Brock, there's guys like Shane Carwin, Gonzaga, possibly Mir in the future depending if he bounces back, Junior Dos Santos if he continues on the streak he's had, and of course Couture. Granted he's aging and the upcoming fight against Nog will tell a lot. All would likely be great match ups and would yield Fedor much more exposure to an audience that he doesn't have than M1 and Dream would.

NCRadioMan

07-30-2009, 04:43 PM

Who knows what to believe?

M-1 COO: Report of six fight, $30 million offer from UFC “completely ludicrous”

Reports have surfaced over the course of the past 24 hours that M-1 Global officials and Fedor Emelianenko turned down a six-fight, $30 million contract offer from the UFC. But in a new exclusive interview with Sherdog.com’s Loretta Hunt, M-1 Global Chief Operating Officer Joost Raimond is quoted as denying that such an offer exists.

Raimond labeled the report as “completely ludicrous” while revealing that talks with the UFC never progressed to a point where a specified number of fights was finalized.

Raimond was also quick to point out that the UFC’s offer did not approach anywhere near the $30 million figure that many claim Fedor and M-1 was offered.

“I can say that the guaranteed — and the word ‘guaranteed’ is of great importance here — the guaranteed offer made by the UFC is less than what Fedor made before,” Raimond told Hunt. “The five-million (per fight) is way, way, way out of range. Half of that is even way out of range of what they offered.”

Regardless of the money, Raimond reaffirmed that a major sticking point in the negotiations is the UFC’s insistence to sign Fedor as a UFC fighter with no connection to M-1.

“We made it clear that Fedor, now and forever is part, even part owner, of M-1 and those two cannot be separated,” Raimond is quoted. “If the rest of M-1 is excluded from any kind of deal, it makes the deal difficult.”

http://www.m-1global.com/lang/en/2009/07/30/m-1-coo-report-of-six-fight-30-million-offer-%e2%80%9ccompletely-ludicrous%e2%80%9d/

BengalMan

07-30-2009, 04:48 PM

The offer that was made to Fedor was not 30 Million as the article somewhat states above, but it kind of was. Apparently the guaranteed amount to actually show up and fight was in the neighborhood of what he was making at Affliction, but a little less. The 30 million figure was an estimated number based on the points he was getting on PPV buys and the cut he was getting off the points that the UFC was giving M1.

Does the current #1 HW fighter in the world deserve to have the highest guaranteed check from the UFC? Absolutely. But to say that he deserves these ridiculous figures is insane. Like I said before, the UFC doesn't need him. Would it be nice to have him? Sure. But in the end, they bent so many of their previous rules and stances they took with fighters to make this happen and M1 continued to be difficult. Good riddance Fedor.

NCRadioMan

07-30-2009, 04:56 PM

I have a feeling that Fedor is already in the UFC and all this is is to get people talking about it. And if you look at MMA boards and MMA news outlets, that's all they are talking about. I wouldn't be surprised to see Fedor in the audience at UFC 101 on the 8th.

Steelergar

07-30-2009, 09:09 PM

If he is, Brock's gonna have a hard time sleeping.

NCRadioMan

07-30-2009, 09:55 PM

If he is, Brock's gonna have a hard time sleeping.
I am one of the biggest Brock fans you will find but I think Fedor would crush him.

BengalMan

07-30-2009, 10:49 PM

I am one of the biggest Brock fans you will find but I think Fedor would crush him.

I'm not a Brock fan at all, I think he's an arrogant asshole and he does nothing but piss me off, but I'll gladly bet a box of cigars that Brock wins if they fight.

Honestly, I think it's going to be extremely hard for anyone under 260-270lbs to beat him. He's so damn fast and big that once he's on top of you, it's likely gonna be game over. I wanted Mir to crush Lesnar, but obviously that didn't happen... One person in the MMA world that I think could have a good shot at him would be Overeem. But once again, Brock is so dominant when it comes to wrestling that if it went to the ground, it could be over. I'd really like Brock's next fight to be some that has a great Muy-Thai/Kickboxing background that is a good size and is solid on the ground.

NCRadioMan

07-30-2009, 11:12 PM

I'm not a Brock fan at all, I think he's an arrogant asshole and he does nothing but piss me off, but I'll gladly bet a box of cigars that Brock wins if they fight.

That's exactly what he and Dana wants. :tu

Sorry, I don't bet. No matter the situation, I would lose. Ask Icehog. :r

icehog3

07-30-2009, 11:15 PM

That's exactly what he and Dana wants. :tu

Sorry, I don't bet. No matter the situation, I would lose. Ask Icehog. :r

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/kahn1.jpg

It's true! It's true!! :r

Steelergar

07-31-2009, 01:30 AM

I think Fedor's too good on the ground to let someone lay on top of him. Plus Brock has been rocked by couture and that knee by Mir and not to many hit harder than Fedor. I see Brock getting his face beat the hell up like Heath Herring did when he faced fedor or victory by leg lock.

ActionAndy

07-31-2009, 06:05 AM

I'm not a Brock fan at all, I think he's an arrogant asshole and he does nothing but piss me off, but I'll gladly bet a box of cigars that Brock wins if they fight.

Honestly, I think it's going to be extremely hard for anyone under 260-270lbs to beat him. He's so damn fast and big that once he's on top of you, it's likely gonna be game over. I wanted Mir to crush Lesnar, but obviously that didn't happen... One person in the MMA world that I think could have a good shot at him would be Overeem. But once again, Brock is so dominant when it comes to wrestling that if it went to the ground, it could be over. I'd really like Brock's next fight to be some that has a great Muy-Thai/Kickboxing background that is a good size and is solid on the ground.

I'd definitely take that bet with you...If they ever fight. I'm trying to stay optimistic but things aren't looking good for Fedor's arrival in the UFC.

NCRadioMan

07-31-2009, 09:38 AM

Dan Lauzon and Rafaello Oliveira Sign With UFC, Square Off at UFC 103

Two more Affliction cast-offs have found a new home with the UFC, as lightweights Dan "the Upgrade" Lauzon and Rafaello "Tractor" Oliveira have signed with the organization, and will face each other in the Octagon at UFC 103 in Dallas in September. Jason Benfari at FiveKnuckles.com has the report:

A source close to the event has informed FiveKnuckles.com that Dan Lauzon will square off against long time B.J. Penn training partner Rafaello Oliveira at UFC 103 in Dallas, TX. The fight is expected to be announced by Dana White as part of a UFC press conference tomorrow.

Originally scheduled to face Chris Horodecki on the Afffliction card, Dan Lauzon (12-2, 0-1 UFC) will join his older brother Joe in the UFC's crowded lightweight division, marking the first time in UFC history that two brothers will compete in the same weight class. This will not be Dan's UFC debut either, as he faced Spencer Fisher way back at UFC 64 when he was just 18 years old. Although he lost to Fisher via first round TKO, he made history as the youngest fighter ever to compete in the Octagon. Since that loss, Lauzon has gone 8-1, and with first or second stoppages in all his victories.

Rafaello Oliveira (8-1) is a BJJ standout and a long-time training partner of UFC lightweight champion BJ Penn. Oliveira was slated to take on Takanori Gomi at Affliction and was seen in one of BJ Penn's recent video blogs as being clearly distraught over the cancellation of that fight. "Tractor" will finish helping Penn prepare for his title defense against Kenny Florian next week, before resuming his own training for the September 19th clash with Lauzon.

BengalMan

07-31-2009, 11:25 AM

BengalMan

07-31-2009, 11:26 AM

He just doesn’t like doing laundry in public…

“There have been recent reports stating that talk between M-1 Global and the UFC regarding Fedor fighting in the UFC have ended. Like some of the other reports that have surfaced, this is incorrect. It is unfortunate that so much incorrect information has been leaked to the public. It is M-1’s preference not to negotiate in public and we are unsure why people claim that Fedor and M-1 turned down a six fight, $30 million contract to fight in the UFC when no such offer was ever made. Even though Lorenzo Fertitta and Dana White did not meet with Fedor in person on Tuesday, they were represented over the phone. Outside of representatives of the UFC and M-1, no other company was represented during our negotiations. Since we did not go to the media with details of the meeting and only responded to the erroneous reports, we are unsure how these reports started. It’s unfortunate because these type of tactics will not help ensure that M-1’s talks with the UFC are fruitful. M-1 Global is still interested in continuing to negotiate with the UFC and while we are fielding offers from other major promotions, nothing has been decided. It is our hope that the UFC will remain in active dialogue with us as we try to find ways for us to work together. All we are asking is that there is give-and-take in the negotiations and that they are not one-sided.”

-Vadim Finkelchtein, Co-owner and President of M-1 Global, issued a press release earlier today to reassure the mixed martial arts community that he’s not completely out of the Dana White business. Meanwhile, Fedor Emelianenko was shipped back to Russia without a new employer after the fall of Affliction and UFC fans will have to hope for other news coming out of White’s afternoon press conference to quell their insatiable hunger for UFC-related news. Tito? Vitor? Stay tuned…

LordOfWu

07-31-2009, 11:28 AM

All signs are reporting to UFC's announcement that is going to be made today will be confirming rumors that Tito is back and who and when his next fight will be along with touching more on the ESPN deal that was signed for the over seas market.

I'm finding it hard to care if Tito is back. There is plenty of good fighters at light heavyweight, and his last few fights in the UFC didn't do much for me. I'm just sort of.. eh .. bout him.

Steelergar

07-31-2009, 11:33 AM

Vitor already signed to a new promotion in Brazil

BengalMan

07-31-2009, 11:45 AM

I'm finding it hard to care if Tito is back. There is plenty of good fighters at light heavyweight, and his last few fights in the UFC didn't do much for me. I'm just sort of.. eh .. bout him.

Maybe so, but he's one of the most popular fighters in UFC history and can carry a PPV on his back without a problem. Tito coming back, even in a gatekeeper role will still be huge. I have a feeling he'll get a lay up or two, fight a top contender, and maybe get one last run at the title. The problem is that 205 is so deep now and there are already numerous people in line that so it's going to be interesting. You have Shogun fighting for the title soon, then the winner of Rampage and Rashad will get a shot, then there's Forrest and you can't forget about Rich Franklin. All things are pointing towards a Franklin vs. Ortiz main event at 103 which will put one of them in immediate title contention in my eyes.

BengalMan

07-31-2009, 12:10 PM

Press Conference Updates:
-UFC has signed Vitor Belfort and will be fighting Franklin at 103
-Dana said they tried everything to get Fedor but refused to co-promote. Said Fedor will never see a deal like this again.
-Tito is officially back long-term and will retire in the UFC. Tito: "Time cures everything. Dana apologized to me....It was about competition...financially I'm ok...Dana stuck by his word."
-ESPN and UFC signed a 3yr TV deal for broadcasts in the UK
-Tito: "If if fought in Strikeforce, who would I fight? I have no more pain in my legs, no more numbness. It's about competition. I expect to return in Nov. or Dec"
-Dana: "Tito will have ring rust. First fight back could be against Marc Coleman"
-Franklin vs. Vitor will be at 205.
-Dan Henderson is next in line for a title shot against Anderson Silva.
-Dana: M-1's going to "co-promote"? They're going to help US? "That **** probably works in Russia. Not here. Were coming to Japan, it can't be stopped"

Will update as it goes on.

BengalMan

07-31-2009, 01:01 PM

-Dana: "M-1's request is like Brett Favre doing a deal with a team saying "We're going be 50% partners"."
-Dana: "White: Everything that we thought was a sticking point we fixed, re: Fedor. As far as I know, deal breaker is co-promotion."
-Dana: "White: We were willing to make a deal at almost any cost, re: Fedor and M-1"
-Dana: "White: "we did EVERYTHING to make this deal happen. We didn't hold back on anything. We gave everything." Fedor doesnt want to fight the best."
-Dana: "White: I flew to Tito's house to do a deal with Tito. With Fedor, we gave EVERYTHING to make this fight happen."
-Tito Ortiz: "squashing beef with Dana actually more on his mind than returning to UFC."
-Dana: "I buried the hatchet with Atencio, Affliction personnel. I apologized to Bud Light, but "it all worked out in the end."
-Dana: "the deal that I said "would change the UFC forever" is "very close" to happening and NOT the Tito Ortiz deal."
-Dana: "Vitor's mentally and physically back. His contract was up and we were interested. Him and Rich is a fun fight."
-Dana: "if M-1 is ready to make a deal, they can call me right now. "I wanted this thing so bad. I was so confident this was going 2 happen"
-Tito: "I was close to signing with Strikeforce. Coker is an awesome guy, but there's no one for me to fight there."
-Dana: "if we get a network deal, "we're putting serious fights" on television. "It's going to be so awesome for the fans"

BengalMan

07-31-2009, 01:24 PM

Conference call ended a few minutes ago. I for one am very excited about Franklin vs. Vitor, even though after this fight at 205, Vitor will likely drop back down to 185. Love him or hate him, I'm pumped that Tito is back. The energy he brings and his popularity with fans both new and old will be nice to have back in the UFC.

ActionAndy

07-31-2009, 01:27 PM

BengalMan

07-31-2009, 02:02 PM

Was Franklin always at 205? I was never big into him, so I can't even remember.

Rich started in the UFC at 205, then dropped to 185 and went on a tear holding the title for some time until Anderson Silva came into the picture and owned him 2x in a row. After that Rich moved up to 205 as a third fight with Silva wasn't going to happen and he didn't want to be Anderson's gate keeper. The only problem is that he still is Anderson's gate keeper. He fought Wandy at 195 to see if he could cut it at 185. Wandy drops to 185 and will now be a contender for Anderson. He fought Hendo at 205, who he lost to, which led to a fight with Bisping which, after todays press conference, resulted in Hendo getting a title shot. Now he's fighting Vitor at 205, who openly said he wants Anderson. If Vitor wins, he'll also drop to 185 to go for a title shot as well. Everyone Rich has fought above 185 since moving up in weight has dropped to 185 to go for the title. Rich should have stayed at 185 if he was going to just have the gatekeeper role that Dana told him he wouldn't. The whole point that Rich moved to 205 was because he didn't want to be a gatekeeper and he felt he could make a title run at 205.

In the end, I think Rich needs to be fighting legitimate 205 lb title contenders and stop fighting people that will do nothing for his career. How about Rich vs Jardine? Rich vs. Forrest? Maybe Luiz Cane or Thiago Silva? There is so much talent at 205 that for Rich to continue to be Anderson's gate keeper at 205 to determine if the guy he fights drops to 185 to make a title run is stupid. Don't get me wrong, I'm PUMPED for Vitor vs. Rich, but it makes ZERO sense for Rich.

LordOfWu

07-31-2009, 02:12 PM

Rich started in the UFC at 205, then dropped to 185 and went on a tear holding the title for some time until Anderson Silva came into the picture and owned him 2x in a row. After that Rich moved up to 205 as a third fight with Silva wasn't going to happen and he didn't want to be Anderson's gate keeper. The only problem is that he still is Anderson's gate keeper. He fought Wandy at 195 to see if he could cut it at 185. Wandy drops to 185 and will now be a contender for Anderson. He fought Hendo at 205, who he lost to, which led to a fight with Bisping which, after todays press conference, resulted in Hendo getting a title shot. Now he's fighting Vitor at 205, who openly said he wants Anderson. If Vitor wins, he'll also drop to 185 to go for a title shot as well. Everyone Rich has fought above 185 since moving up in weight has dropped to 185 to go for the title. Rich should have stayed at 185 if he was going to just have the gatekeeper role that Dana told him he wouldn't. The whole point that Rich moved to 205 was because he didn't want to be a gatekeeper and he felt he could make a title run at 205.

In the end, I think Rich needs to be fighting legitimate 205 lb title contenders and stop fighting people that will do nothing for his career. How about Rich vs Jardine? Rich vs. Forrest? Maybe Luiz Cane or Thiago Silva? There is so much talent at 205 that for Rich to continue to be Anderson's gate keeper at 205 to determine if the guy he fights drops to 185 to make a title run is stupid. Don't get me wrong, I'm PUMPED for Vitor vs. Rich, but it makes ZERO sense for Rich.

It's obvious from reading your post why this will never happen and Rich will continue as the gatekeeper...it makes complete sense! As we know this is not a feasible condition for UFC, we will probably see GSP fighting Rich at the 192.637 lbs catch weight! :r

NCRadioMan

07-31-2009, 04:56 PM

Just for clariification about Fedor's role in M-1. He is part owner.

"We made it clear that Fedor, now and forever is part, even part owner, of M-1 and those two cannot be separated, Raimond noted. If the rest of M-1 is excluded from any kind of deal, it makes the deal difficult." - Joost Raimond, CEO for M-1 Global

BengalMan

07-31-2009, 07:21 PM

Rich just posted on Twitter that the fight between him and Vitor will be at a catch weight of 195 per Vitor's request.

Ken

07-31-2009, 08:25 PM

I'll take a foot in mouth for going on some bad info.
Just for clariification about Fedor's role in M-1. He is part owner.

Good to know. As good as Fedor is I have to side with the UFC on this. M-1 wants to bring one fighter to the show but rake half the pot. They can go somewhere else and fans will know they are not putting forth the effort to fight the top guys. UFC's HW division has improved 10 fold and will be more stacked than others.

It's a shame as I still wanted to see Fedor vs Couture

For heavens sake, if Franklin is going to move to 205 then just let him fight guys in that division .

LordOfWu

07-31-2009, 08:42 PM

Rich just posted on Twitter that the fight between him and Vitor will be at a catch weight of 195 per Vitor's request.

Dang, I was half in jest with the catch weight thing...{sigh}

Steelergar

07-31-2009, 09:44 PM

I'm looking foward to the Franlin vs Vitor fight. I hope Vitor kicks his butt after Franklin won a decision by back peddling against Wandy . It seems like Vitor should be an old guy because he has been fighting so long. He fought in UFC 12 for crying out loud. But he is only 32 and still in his prime right now.

Ken

08-01-2009, 10:41 PM

I hope Vitor kicks his butt after Franklin won a decision by back peddling against Wandy .
Come on, should he stand toe 2 toe and play you punch me and I'll punch you. That's Wandy's game, not Franklins. Stick and move, hit the angles.

This should be a great fight. Vitor is looking pretty good and back on his game.

BengalMan

08-01-2009, 11:25 PM

Come on, should he stand toe 2 toe and play you punch me and I'll punch you. That's Wandy's game, not Franklins. Stick and move, hit the angles.

This should be a great fight. Vitor is looking pretty good and back on his game.

Agreed. Franklin would get KTFO if he stood and banged with Wandy, MANY have. I love Wandy, he's been one of my favorite fighters since the Pride days. It's a shame he gone downhill since coming back into the UFC, I had high hopes for him to come in and be a beast. Rich has always fought smart (for the most part. Trying to clinch with Anderson fights in a row was beyond stupid, but whatever, lol). Being a Cincinnati native, I gotta root for the hometown guy!

I'm excited to see Vitor vs Rich, probably one of the fights I'm looking forward to the most all year.

Steelergar

08-01-2009, 11:51 PM

Come on, should he stand toe 2 toe and play you punch me and I'll punch you. That's Wandy's game, not Franklins. Stick and move, hit the angles.

This should be a great fight. Vitor is looking pretty good and back on his game.

thats cool if thats how he wants to approach it. But than the UFC needs to get with the times and update how they score a fight and get off this boxing 10pt scoring system. More emphasis needs to be made on making a fight and how it finishes. and less on if they take someone down but can't do anything. I see too many times in the UFC where guys dance around the final 2 minutes or lay on top of and hold people people like Rich did because they think there winning by points.

Steelergar

08-02-2009, 12:17 AM

Sengoku 9 starts in an hour, there is a live brodcast on Just in TV at 3:00am. Their having the featherweight grand prix finals. Marlon Sandro is a heavy favorite, is 14 -0 and trains at Nova Uniao with Thales Leites and Xande Riberio. Blagoi Ivanov (the guy that beat Fedor) is making his mma debut against Fujita. Also a guy I have alot of respect for and a true samauri Misaki is fighting the character Nakamura.
Enjoy, it airs on HD net on Fri @ 10:00pm.

Steelergar

08-02-2009, 02:19 PM

Stayed up to watch Sengoku 9 last night. I think that was the longest match I ever watched, it was over 5 hours. Some of the highlight were American Dan Hornbuckle had a great performance against Akihiro Gono who returned to Japan after some decision loses in the UFC. Hornbuckle finished him on a brutal head kick knockout and Gono could not move for over 5 minutes. I thought he was dead until I saw him breathing a minute or 2 after the KO, he had to leave on a stretcher. Misaki had a good performance against Nakamura. To finish he landed a flying knee the got Nakamura in a guilitine. I felt kind of bad for Nakamura he left the ring immediately with a towel over his head and you could here him crying loudly. Blagoi Ivanov had a not so impresive mma debut and won by split decision against Fujita. His punches while strong but were wild windmill puches that people in barfights use and he was exhausted after the 1st round and his ground game is suspect. He is tall and a southpaw which is what might have

Steelergar

08-02-2009, 02:32 PM

thrown Fedor off. For the featherweight tournament the 2 best fighters did not make it to the finals. Hatsu Hioki had a impresive performance showcasing his great ground game, transitions and submission attempts. But Kanehara wouldn't give up and it went to the judges where Hioki won by decision. Hioki sufered from a concussion after the fight and Kanehara went to the finals for him. The Sandro vs Omigawa fight ended in a draw but the judges chose Omigawa to go to the finals. Sandro's team didn't care for the decision and hoisted Sandro up on their shoulders declaring him the victor. One of the judges even gave Sandro a one point advantage in the scoring. Omigawa went with a busted up left eye from Sandro went on to lose to Kanehara in the finals.

Steelergar

08-03-2009, 03:40 PM

Fedor signs multifight deal with strikeforce.

BengalMan

08-03-2009, 04:09 PM

“”I’m in Abu Dhabi right now and my reaction is Fedor is a [expletive] joke. [He] turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies, for no money. Fedor is a [expletive]!”

Classic. Love Dana or hate Dana, he speaks his mind. I gotta say, I agree with him. You got Brett Rogers who while doing well, really hasn't been tested. You have Werdum who couldn't cut it in the UFC and you have Overeem who is constantly injured and has bailed on multiple fights in the past year or so. Strikeforce just wrote half their company over to M-1 hoping that Fedor will take them to the next level. I'm not drinking the Kool Aid. I picture Diaz leaving and coming back to the UFC and possibly Shields and Lawler following suit in the near future....

ActionAndy

08-03-2009, 04:30 PM

goalie204

08-03-2009, 07:25 PM

Fedor isn't the best HW in the world. He used to be, but isn't now. For those who say he has nothing to prove, the only constant is change, and Fedor of the past may not be the same Fedor as today, and unless he fights in the octagan vs some incredible HW's in the ufc, he isn't the best imo.

chippewastud79

08-03-2009, 07:30 PM

I don't know if this move by Fedor is proof that he is scared, but someone in his camp is. They clearly wanted control over their fighter and the ability to put him in matchups that best suit him. Someone knew that the heavyweight division in UFC isn't something that he could conquer. M-1 wanted some sort of controling stake in UFC and it sounds like Dana wanted just a fight contract. Maybe eventually he will realize that M-1 is holding him back or that he isn't as good as everyone says he is. Time will tell if this move will even save Strikeforce. :hm

ActionAndy

08-03-2009, 08:31 PM

I have no reason to doubt Fedor as the best. He simply is. No one can match his stats. That being said, the less and less he fights, and if he starts fighting really irrelevant opponents...THEN we can make the argument that he can't be the best. GSP and Anderson Silva are already threatening to take his crown, in my opinion.

goalie204

08-03-2009, 08:45 PM

icehog3

08-04-2009, 12:07 AM

Fedor signs multifight deal with strikeforce.

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THE FEDOR-STRIKEFORCE DEAL; UFC COMMENTS (UPDATED)
Monday, August 03, 2009 - by Steven Marrocco - MMAWeekly.com

Joost Raimond, Chief Operating Officer for M-1 Global, said the deal to sign Fedor Emelianenko to Strikeforce was completed Monday morning, just before a press release was sent to media outlets. Details of the agreement were finalized in recent days.

Emelianenko, the top-ranked heavyweight fighter in the world, will make his debut for the San Jose, Calif., based promotion sometime in the fall, his first time fighting inside a cage. Strikeforce Director of Communications Mike Afromowitz told MMAWeekly.com that Emelianenko is contracted for three fights.

The news came as an abrupt about-face to earlier reports that Emelianenko and his team were in the process of fielding offers from multiple promotions, including a lucrative proposal from the UFC, which clamored for the Russian’s services last week.

UFC president Dana White had just landed in the United Arab Emirates for the 2009 Abu Dhabi Submission Wrestling Championships when he heard the news.

"Fedor is a ****ing joke, he turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!" White commented to MMAWeekly.com via email through a UFC representative.

"I feel sorry for the real fight fans. I wanted to make the deal, but it takes two and it is VERY obvious Fedor doesn't want to fight the best, and doesn't give a **** about the fans," added the brash UFC executive.

Raimond said Strikeforce met M-1 Global’s chief demand to co-promote events which Emelianenko fought on.

“It was a good opportunity,” said Raimond. “(The co-promotion) is a substantial part. The whole set-up for the deal is to have co-promotion partners, and of course, Fedor is an important part of that construction. But the co-promotion deal is of great importance.”

Raimond declined to say whether the financial side of Emelianenko’s deal with Strikeforce was comparable or better to other offers.

“All the assumptions flying around about the offer are assumptions made by various people, and are quite unsubstantiated,” he said. “The financials behind his deal are based on a large number of factors, which include the co-promotion and co-branding activities, and Fedor is a part of that total deal.”

When asked whether Emelianenko would fight on CBS this fall, Raimond said, “It would seem that way, yes.”

However, he amended his statement shortly after.

“The timing for that cannot be confirmed,” he continued. “But of course, because of the broadcasting deals Strikeforce has, these things all become very possible.”

Kelly Kahl, Senior Executive Vice President for CBS Primetime TV, said he “wouldn’t rule out” a Strikeforce show on CBS late this year. He said his network had no direct hand in the Emelianenko deal, but stood to gain from it with options the network held to broadcast Strikeforce events.

“This was, quite frankly, a straight Strikeforce deal,” he said. “I don’t believe anything was represented on the part of CBS. Strikeforce and, I would assume, Showtime, get all the credit.”

In the press release issued Monday morning, Strikeforce stated Emelianenko’s first fight would be broadcast on Showtime. Afromowitz said a press conference announcing details on the new relationship was forthcoming.

Raimond said the new deal included plans to co-promote shows with Strikeforce overseas in Europe, where M-1 has conducted most of its shows. He said other M-1 fighters were Strikeforce bound as well, but did not name any names.

“We have a much more international view on the entire business, and Strikeforce is very U.S. domestic oriented, and we have always been much more internationally minded.”

Emelianenko, who returned to Russia Wednesday following a press conference in Anaheim, Calif., said he was happy to have a home again.

“I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level,” he said.

goalie204

08-04-2009, 05:34 AM

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“I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level,” he said.

White was right, Fedor _IS_ a retard.

Steelergar

08-04-2009, 09:00 AM

icehog3

08-04-2009, 01:18 PM

No offense but Tough guys like Carwin and Lesnar grow on trees.

Hope there's none of those trees in my neighborhood. ;)

coastietech

08-04-2009, 01:23 PM

Sweet!! MMA fans... If anybody in my local area wants to watch UFC 101 shoot me a PM. :tu

BengalMan

08-04-2009, 09:34 PM

Steelergar

08-04-2009, 09:49 PM

Strikeforce and DREAM are working on an alliance.

chippewastud79

08-04-2009, 10:11 PM

I for one don't agree with Dana White. He is unprofessional, imature and a liar. Also the rumor about the 5 fights for 30 million offer was false . It was more like 3 fights for less than 2 million each. I am probably in the minority but I think the Strikeforce M1 deal is a good thing for MMA. Because Strikeforce is cool with copromotion they can sign any fighter in the world that is not signed to the UFC. I also think Overeem is in his prime right know and a good challenge for Fedor. He completly dominated a fight with Cro Crop last year before a accidental low blow ruled it a no contest. No offense but Tough guys like Carwin and Lesnar grow on trees.

Ofcourse the 30 million was a rumor. Dana and M-1 both confirmed that all their talks were behind closed doors and the person who leaked that rumor had no knowledge of the situation. The M-1/Strikeforce merger is great for M-1 and Fedor, now they have a controlling stake in a second rate forum. It appears UFC and Dana were not willing to allow a promotion come in with one fighter and take some kind of controling stake of the #1 promotion in America.

You really think guys like Lesnar grow on trees? That guy is a damn freak. College wrestler, entertainment wrestler, NFL, and now the dominant heavyweight in MMA. Find another guy who tips the scales at well over 265 with a physique like that and a resume like that :hm

Strikeforce and DREAM are working on an alliance.

Great, now they have a place for all the guys who can't cut it in UFC to go. :rolleyes:

Steelergar

08-04-2009, 10:51 PM

Ofcourse the 30 million was a rumor. Dana and M-1 both confirmed that all their talks were behind closed doors and the person who leaked that rumor had no knowledge of the situation. The M-1/Strikeforce merger is great for M-1 and Fedor, now they have a controlling stake in a second rate forum. It appears UFC and Dana were not willing to allow a promotion come in with one fighter and take some kind of controling stake of the #1 promotion in America.

You really think guys like Lesnar grow on trees? That guy is a damn freak. College wrestler, entertainment wrestler, NFL, and now the dominant heavyweight in MMA. Find another guy who tips the scales at well over 265 with a physique like that and a resume like that :hm

Great, now they have a place for all the guys who can't cut it in UFC to go. :rolleyes:

your right Brock does have an impressive resume, look at all the guys he has beaten. Anybody who doesn't fight in the UFC just plain sucks.

chippewastud79

08-04-2009, 11:23 PM

your right Brock does have an impressive resume, look at all the guys he has beaten. Anybody who doesn't fight in the UFC just plain sucks.

Not talking strictly MMA here, a full body of work. Lets see, he is a national champion, 4-time All-American (this alone is impresive even for most MMA fighters), made a few million dollars in WWE, tried out for an NFL team, and now happens to be thoroughly beating all comers thus far. Oh yeah and all this while weighing close to 280 and being a damn freak with 2% body fat and staying clean. The man is a genetic freak. I hope my kids end up like that seeing as that are so common. :tu

Are you insinuating that UFC is not the top promotion with the best fighters right now? I am not saying there aren't a few good fighters in other promotions, but I would be willing to take UFC fighters in a tournament from top to bottom of the 'popular' promotions. :rolleyes:

goalie204

08-05-2009, 05:25 AM

farm teams vs pro teams

BengalMan

08-05-2009, 06:50 AM

your right Brock does have an impressive resume, look at all the guys he has beaten. Anybody who doesn't fight in the UFC just plain sucks.

It seems to me that you've decided to take the exact opposite stance of others each possible opportunity on here which is fine. It stirs up conversation and any conversation regarding MMA I'm more than happy to read and/or take part in. Regardless of the stance.

In the end, a majority of people, including hardcore MMA fans are upset about Fedor not going to the biggest MMA organization. Why wouldn't you want to see him on that stage? When the question gets posted on major MMA forums all over that ask if you think Fedor should be in the UFC, the response is overwhelmingly yes.

To call Brock's resume not impressive is simply being difficult and not recognizing what he's done. Adam has already said it, but an NCAA National Champ, a major WWE superstar (say what you want, but to do the things that he did in the ring, athletes like that don't "grow on trees" as you say). Then to walk off the street and get invited for NFL try outs, yup, no easy task. Then to come into the UFC off the street and immediately fight the best of the best and in the matter a few fights, completely dominate some of the best in the world and become champ, that's damn impressive. All this while cutting from around 290lbs to 265 and being one of, if not the fastest and strongest HW in all of MMA.But guys like him grow on tree's. Right. Please show me where this magic tree is because maybe if I eat the apples off it, it'll get me the physique, speed and strength of Brock and Shane Carwin.

No one is denying what Fedor has accomplished. I don't think anyone will accomplish the wins that he has strung together. I will say this though, with Scott Coker saying they're going to "build up to Fedor vs. Overeem", one of the only worthwhile fights over there is foolish. If Fedor would have signed in the UFC, he would have been fighting for the title, against the best the UFC has to offer from the get go. No warm ups, no "building up", just proving on the biggest stage your still the best and no one is going to take that from you. Who wouldn't rather see that?

If you heard what Tito said when he was asked why he came back to the UFC, it was simple. The competition. Tito wanted to fight the best there is to offer on the biggest stage. Why wouldn't the #1 HW fighter in the world want to go where 5 of the top 7 HW fighters in the world are and fight the best? Sure he's beat Nog twice. Take him out of the equation, there are still a ton of great fights for Fedor there.

In the end it's just sad for an MMA fan to see someone with Fedor's talent go to a second rate organization and fight 2nd tier ranked talent. If you want to be the best, beat the best. He's done that thus far. Now he has to continue to fight the best to maintain being the best. Plain and simple. In Strikeforce, he's not doing that, and no one can argue otherwise.

goalie204

08-05-2009, 07:19 AM

How long till strikforce folds like the rest of them? I'm saying before March 2010.

Steelergar

08-05-2009, 02:33 PM

How long till strikforce folds like the rest of them? I'm saying before March 2010.

I don't know why you guys hate on non UFC promotions. It seems to be a common thing among Dana White drones though. America is the new kid on the block for mma fights. Japan and Brazil have been doing this for a long time you could say the early 1900s. You guys talk like UFC is so great than how come the Gracie who created the UFC don't send the new generation there? As a matter top level BJJ guys don't even fight there they go to Japan where the fans are more knowledgeable and don't boo when the fight goes to the ground. Damien Mia is probably the only top level guy they have. Also you guys seem to forget that the Fertittas were going to sell the UFC just 5 years ago before they decided to try a reality TV show that became popular and saved them from disaster back when PRIDE was top dog. And what is the Ultimate Fighter? Cheap talent with face recognition that sells shows.

Steelergar

08-05-2009, 02:47 PM

They conned you guys into beleiving Bisbing, Thales Leittes, Rashad Evans, and Forest Griffin are the best contenders out there. And when you see those guys fight against actual fighters they look confused and lost. UFC has a Mcdonalds aproach to MMA. Although they did pick up alot of the PRIDE contracts but I doubt they had much of a choice. I'll watch any MMA promotion no matter where its at if there are good fights on the card. I believe that copromotion is the key to putting the best against the best. UFC claims to be the NFL of mma. That disgraces the NFL with a comment like that. MMA is more like soccer where their is greatness all around the world and they have a world cup to see whos the best. Thats what MMA needs. Also just because my opinion is different from yours it doesn't mean I am deliberately going against you. To the post 2 above STRIKFORCE has been around for 25 years and Scott Coker is a respectable guy in the fighter community.

NCRadioMan

08-05-2009, 05:19 PM

How long till strikforce folds like the rest of them? I'm saying before March 2010.

They won't. They run a very successful and profitable promotion for many years now. Coker is a great business man that knows what he is doing.

NCRadioMan

08-05-2009, 06:08 PM

I don't know why you guys hate on non UFC promotions.

:tpd: Sengoku, Dream and K-1 in Japan goes all out and always has very good fighters and all the shows are good. All of them. You can't say that for UFC. They seem to have alot of mediocre shows.

ActionAndy

08-05-2009, 06:47 PM

:tpd: Sengoku, Dream and K-1 in Japan goes all out and always has very good fighters and all the shows are good. All of them. You can't say that for UFC. They seem to have alot of mediocre shows.

Yeah, and let's not forget where great fighters like Rampage got their start--Japan. MMA is a sport with worldwide interest. I really do value the UFC though because they do great things like free televised fight nights.

BengalMan

08-05-2009, 09:42 PM

:tpd: Sengoku, Dream and K-1 in Japan goes all out and always has very good fighters and all the shows are good. All of them. You can't say that for UFC. They seem to have alot of mediocre shows.

I agree. I think the UFC is doing too many shows. I'd much rather see 8-10 numbered UFC PPV cards a year, and maybe 3-5 Fight Nights a year on Spike. This way cards are more stacked.

On another note, wtf is up with Ricardo Arona? Ever since that brutal KO by Soko, he hasn't fought once.

Steelergar

08-05-2009, 10:19 PM

On another note, wtf is up with Ricardo Arona? Ever since that brutal KO by Soko, he hasn't fought once.

The only info I can find is that he claims to have suffered from dengue fever in that KO loss. He was suppose to fight Marvin Eastman a while back but Eastman got injured and the fight was postponed until Sep 12th at Bettiti Combat in Brazil. Vitor Belfort was suppose to fight there until UFC signed him. I do wonder what Arona's contract was with PRIDE when it went under. It might of just expired recently, which is why he hasn't been fighting. Plus brazilian top team took a tumble as well.

ActionAndy

08-06-2009, 12:14 PM

Anyone here bet on MMA? The odds are pretty big on this weekend's bouts. I'm 98% positive BJ Penn is going to smash Florian...I just hate risking money.

goalie204

08-06-2009, 01:05 PM

I've bet cigars with some folks, but don't bet money. I would bet on florian tho, i like this particular underdog

BengalMan

08-06-2009, 01:12 PM

ActionAndy

08-06-2009, 01:19 PM

BengalMan

08-06-2009, 04:29 PM

Well, as I previously stated Forrest has the strength and size advantage against Silva. Now I'm questioning that statement, lol. Regardless, my money is still on Forrest.

http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/ufc101-1.jpg

goalie204

08-06-2009, 05:10 PM

Should we believe anything B.J. Penn has to say?

By Maggie Hendricks

B.J. Penn dropped a bombshell in an interview with Yahoo! Sports' Kevin Iole. A baseless, unsubstantiated bombshell, but nonetheless, a bombshell.

“It’s just my opinion that (Georges St. Pierre) uses steroids,” Penn said. “That’s it. My opinion. I do believe it. I can’t hand you any proof, but that’s my opinion.”

***

lol @ BJ. What a d-bag. Hope kenny destroys him.

story http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Should-we-believe-anything-B-J-Penn-has-to-say-;_ylt=AkX1yiTqXSjMq69Lbe3nDlw5nYcB?urn=mma,181251

NCRadioMan

08-06-2009, 06:05 PM

At +300, I'm taking Forrest. His size and strength are superior to Anderson and the guy has some serious heart. Anderson is a true beast, but I think if someone has a good shot to beat him, it's Forrest.

Not to say I would be surprised if Anderson smashed him because he is an unreal fighter, but at +300, Forrest is a great bet in my eyes.

Hard not to take those odds but I don't think Forrest can take the Spider. I also think Florian is very, very good and will take BJ. I am a Penn fan but Florian impresses me more and more everytime he fights. His elbows are killer!

One thing I don't like about BJ is that when he loses, he makes alot of excuses.

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Fedor conference call about the Strikeforce deal.

http://chicago.fighthype.com/2009/08/06/strikeforce-offers-better-deal-than-ufc/

Highlights:

"The UFC did not give us any chance to develop. The UFC wants me to be the fighter of the UFC. They do not offer us anything else. Dana White stated that M-1 rejected a huge amount of money and decided to fight for cheap money. That's not the truth. Nothing special was offered to M-1. And when we made a deal with Strikeforce and when we united with Strikeforce, we got the opportunity to broadcast all fights on the first channel in Russia, in the leading channel in Korea and in Japan, and in many other countries. But UFC won't give us these opportunities. If Strikeforce was able to offer a better deal than the UFC, why should we go to the UFC? I'm happy we have found a great partner. I'm very happy to fight again. I don't know the name of the opponent yet. I know for sure that the fight will take place in fall. I will be happy to meet any opponent, which will be offered by the organizers."

"I would like to say that I have full control of all the contracts and my career as well. I get all financial reports. All important issues are being discussed with me. Everything I don't like, Vadim tries to send for. I need to tell you I have complete control of what's going on."

"From my viewpoint, the UFC does not have the proper attitude towards fighters. They do not consider fighters normal people – human beings. I think the attitude for UFC fighters is not the correct one. The offer seems to be one kind and on the Internet, they published different numbers. The offer we got from them was neither of those. I don't pay attention to different discussions. There are a lot of people who take the side of the UFC. A lot of people take side of M-1 as well. I think that if the numbers which are published on the Internet were real numbers, we would have signed the contract with the UFC."

In response to allegations that Dana White called Strikeforce “Strikfarce,” and that no one watched Strikeforce, that they had no money and no one to fight Fedor, Scott laughed. “My response to that is of course he’s going to say that. He’s a promoter. We’ve been in business a long time, and I think we know how to operate a business with Ken (Hirschman) and Showtime. I feel confident we are going to have some great big shows. Under the current circumstances, is anyone surprised? I don’t think so.”

In conclusion, Fedor addressed the disappointment expressed by fans with the cancellation of the Brock Lesnar fight. “I really feel very sorry for that fight which could not happen. I feel very sorry for my fans, but I think that I also deserve some respect. That my personal interests are taken into consideration.”

I, for one, don't fault Fedor at all for wanting full control of his fighting future and having his own business (M-1) grow at the same time. He has earned the right to do just that, imo. And Dana always makes an ass out of himself when he doesn't get his way. Always throwing folks under the bus and cussing like a sailor. He has always struck me as one of those "I'll take my ball and go home" kinda guys. Waaahhhhhhh!

NCRadioMan

08-06-2009, 06:15 PM

Don't forget about WEC 42 on Sunday either! It's pretty much a one fight show but Torres wicked good. I love to see him fight.

http://www.mmafight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/WEC-42-Poster.jpg

Steelergar

08-06-2009, 09:35 PM

I'm thinking Anderson Silva might come out aggresive and look for a KO to shut up the booing hecklers. I'm looking forward to seeing that fight and the ricardo almeida fight.

The last time I bet on a fight I put money on Ronald Souza a heavy favorite against Mousassi for the DREAM middleweight tournament finals and Mousassi KO"d Souza with a heel kick from his back. That happens like once every 4 or 5 years in mma.

Steelergar

08-06-2009, 10:53 PM

There appears to be some bad blood brewing between anderson silva and Griffin. Griffin has Robert Drysdale a Abu Dhabi champion training him in BJJ for this fight. Robert claims Forrest has better BJJ than Silva and this pissed him off. Silva called Drysdale a fool and an idiot.
Other news Strikeforce signs Ronaldo Jacare Souza, the USA fans get to see this incredible fighter now.

goalie204

08-07-2009, 05:05 AM

Looks like Edith isn't an octagon girl anymore! She isn't on the ufc site, new girl replacing her is hot - natasha wicks
http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&w=550&cs=1&s=ECE2E252-1422-0E8C-9A740B12DAB8BA82.jpg

Ken

08-07-2009, 08:10 AM

natasha wicks

I likes!!!

My only hope with this Fedor situation is that Strikeforce doesn't over extend their business to suit M-1 or their pocket book. I'm with many people, and what Dana W. brought up in statements, that Strikeforce doesn't put on title fights. Three belts that have been stalled and who knows when Cung Le will fight again. Aside from the titles I've liked the Strikeforce shows.

"The UFC did not give us any chance to develop. The UFC wants me to be the fighter of the UFC. They do not offer us anything else."

I'm about done with this, but wondered what this was actually targeted at. Are they talking about developing as a fighter and not wanting a title shot for the first fight?
Hard not to take those odds but I don't think Forrest can take the Spider. I also think Florian is very, very good and will take BJ.
I'm running with you on this. I like forrest though do not see him finishing Silva and Silva is going to put on a fight. And Penn is probably prepping excuses right now for his post fight interview.

ActionAndy

08-07-2009, 08:18 AM

I'm about done with this, but wondered what this was actually targeted at. Are they talking about developing as a fighter and not wanting a title shot for the first fight?

I think in poor english he means that they didn't offer M-1 the chance to expand in a US market-- co-promotion. He wants to develop M-1 as he develops his US based fight game, one alongside the other.

Ken

08-07-2009, 08:42 AM

You're probably right ActionA, though part of my brain was thinking they may have wanted to get a feel for the cage. Although Fedor has used the ropes to avoid takes I don't think the switch to the cage really matters much, he is a natural fighter and should adjust quickly.

NCRadioMan

08-07-2009, 03:57 PM

UFC 101 weigh-in results: All 22 fighters officially make weight for "Declaration" event

PHILADELPHIA - All 22 competitors set to fight at "UFC 101: Declaration" successfully made weight for the event at today's official fighter weigh-ins.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today was on scene for the weigh-ins, which were held at the Wachovia Center in Philadelphia, the same venue that hosts Saturday's pay-per-view event.

UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn and fellow headliner Kenny Florian each tipped the scales at the 155-pound limit before briefly engaging in a nose-to-nose staredown.

Following the pose-off, each competitor promised to display their full potentials.

"This is my dream; this is what every fighter works for," Florian told event emcee Joe Rogan. "I will perform tomorrow night for sure."

The usually vocal Penn was brief in response.

"I'm in great shape," Penn said. "I'm going to go out and do my best."

Additionally, UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva, who moves up to the light heavyweight division for a non-title fight with Forrest Griffin, weighed 205 pounds. Griffin also weighed in right on the light heavyweight limit.

The full weigh-in results included:

MAIN CARD

* Champ B.J. Penn (155) vs. Kenny Florian (155)
* Champ Anderson Silva (205) vs. Forrest Griffin (205)
* Ricardo Almeida (185) vs. Kendall Grove (185.5)
* Josh Neer (155.5) vs. Kurt Pellegrino (154.5)
* Johny Hendricks (171) vs. Amir Sadollah (166.5)

PRELIMINARY CARD

* Shane Nelson (156) vs. Aaron Riley (154)
* John Howard (169.5) vs. Tamdan McCrory (170)
* Thales Leites (185) vs. Alessio Sakara (185.5)
* Dan Cramer (169.5) vs. Matthew Riddle (170)
* George Roop (154) vs. George Sotiropoulos (155)
* Jesse Lennox (171) vs. Danillo Villefort (170.25)

Frankly, this show doesn't have that much appeal. If it were not for the 2 main fights, this shouldn't be a PPV. I think you could argue that it shouldn't anyway. At least not at what they are charging to watch it.

Oh, and PJ Penn has apologized for accusing GSP of juicing. http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Penn_Apologizes_For_Saying_GSP_Uses_Steroids?vid= 10005935&tid=105

Ken

08-07-2009, 09:00 PM

Champ B.J. Penn (155) vs. Kenny Florian (155)
Champ Anderson Silva (205) vs. Forrest Griffin (205) I'll pull for Griffin though
Ricardo Almeida (185) vs. Kendall Grove (185.5)
Josh Neer (155.5) vs. Kurt Pellegrino (154.5)
Johny Hendricks (171) vs. Amir Sadollah (166.5)

Frankly, this show doesn't have that much appeal. If it were not for the 2 main fights, this shouldn't be a PPV. I think you could argue that it shouldn't anyway. At least not at what they are charging to watch it.

Can't argue with that!

Tonight Penn should be preparing his list of excuses. :r

NCRadioMan

08-08-2009, 05:39 PM

MMA pioneer Don Frye out of Aug. 28 "M-1 Breakthrough," event moved to Kansas City.

M-1 Global's Aug. 28 event, "Breakthrough," has suffered another setback as Don Frye has backed out of the evening's main event.

Frye's opponent, Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal, released the information in a recent video blog posted on YouTube.

"Don Frye, I guess, pulled out because he didn't like the location of the fight," Lawal says in the video. "It was originally supposed to be in Los Angeles, but I guess they moved it to Kansas City or something. I'm trying to still get that payday, so they're going to find a replacement to take his spot."

Sources close to the event have since confirmed Frye's withdrawal from the card with MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), as well as the relocation of the event to Kansas City.

SI.com first broke the news that "M-1 Breakthrough" would not be happening in Los Angeles in conjunction with IMMAE, an international MMA trade show. Much was made of M-1 Global's lack of a promoter's license in California, but sources close to the event point to a financial backer withdrawing its commitment as the real culprit.

While M-1 Global has yet to make an official announcement regarding a venue in Kansas City, the organization would most likely look to Memorial Hall, the same venue that hosted a June event from the company's "M-1 Challenge" team-vs.-team event series.

Sources close to the event said a replacement for Frye is likely to be announced as soon as Monday, and the show – which will be broadcast on HDNet – will go on despite the changes.

If you have never seen King Mo fight, you are missing out. He is awesome! I think he would have had no trouble with the aging Frye.

BengalMan

08-08-2009, 10:12 PM

Wow, Anderson made Forrest look like a straight bum. Dude is unreal. Every time I think someone has a CHANCE at beating him, he makes them look foolish. Anderson is a beast, I really have to say, the best P4P fighter in the world.

Overall though, this card has been ass, plain and simple. Luckily I didn't pay for this one...

On another note, I'd like to see King Mo in the UFC. Maybe we see that soon now that he's being jerked around from city to city and opponents dropping out, etc.

Finally, Natasha is smoking hot, especially since she got what looks to be a surgical "upgrade" after winning the Maxim ring girl contest.

BengalMan

08-08-2009, 10:49 PM

Well, BJ dominated. Kenny failed at imitating Couture's tactics against Gonzaga and Sylvia in holding BJ against the cage and hoping he would gas. BJ's conditioning is obviously where it needs to be and like always, his striking and ground game are on point. Great fight though. Looking forward to BJ vs. Sanchez.

BORIStheBLADE

08-08-2009, 11:08 PM

Damn that was the worst card I have seen in a while except for BJ's fight.:confused:

goalie204

08-08-2009, 11:23 PM

that was a crap ufc, they need to put on more quality, less quantity

kgoings

08-08-2009, 11:40 PM

that was a crap ufc, they need to put on more quality, less quantity

Give me a break! I guess Fedors new diggs will put on better fights :td

Steelergar

08-08-2009, 11:45 PM

kgoings

08-08-2009, 11:52 PM

They had too many ultimate fighters on the card and so far this has been the year they have been exposed. I thought Silva embarrassed Thales but Griffin might have looked even worse. Roy Jones better look out. I dont know why the UFC can't set up a Silva vs Jones boxing match in the UFC ? They would make a ton of money plus it would be fun to see a MMA striker against a boxer. Other organizations use to hold kickboxing matches at their events.

Silva is the man!

The Sadollah fight could have gone longer, but the ref was right he wasnt intelligently defending himself...but I didnt think Hendricks wasnt really hitting him while he was down. Hendricks hit him with the first swing but after that was just swinging wildly at air. I watched Hendricks while he was at OSU so it was really cool to seem him in the UFC, I was rooting for him but didnt think the fight was over at that point.

Again Silva is the MAN!

Fedor is ducking the comp in the UFC.

hornitosmonster

08-09-2009, 12:46 AM

Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva are on a different skill level then the rest of the UFC fighters. Don't expect a fight between the two because they are best friends and have already ruled it out.

Silva can beat what is left of RoyJones Jr. in a Boxing match...However, Silva would not have beaten a prime Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match. A match now between the two is a joke. Roy is so past his prime...

As for Fedor, I seriously doubt he is afraid of any of the Heavyweights the UFC has... It is kind of a joke to even suggest that. Please explain why Fedor is ducking the very weak UFC heavyweight division? As much as I want Fedor to destroy that joke of a champion that Lesnar is, I'm happy Fedor has raised his middle finger toward the UFC...

kayaker

08-09-2009, 07:06 AM

Silva vs Griffin was CRAZY!!! Kind of reminded me of when Liddel beat Sobral, only better. It started with Liddel back pedaling while Sobral was chasing. Then Chuck caught him with an upper cut or hook. Few fighters can hit that hard while moving backwards.

It didn't look like Anderson had any body movement to the punch. It was all arms.

I thought Griffin's best chance was to take Silva down and control him like Dan Henderson. I wonder how the ground game would have went. In any case, Anderson didn't wait for that to happen.

He won't fight Machida at 205, so who do you think would be the next best match up at LHW?

cbsmokin

08-09-2009, 07:50 AM

Here is the Silva fight if anyone didn't see it:

http://www.myvideofight.com/UFC/Silva-vs-Griffin-Video

12stones

08-09-2009, 07:58 AM

Let's just say that I'm glad I didn't pay for this card.

Ron1YY

08-09-2009, 08:13 AM

He won't fight Machida at 205, so who do you think would be the next best match up at LHW?

Rashad would be a good fight. Also Rampage too. If Randy dropped back to LHW that would be a fight also.......

kayaker

08-09-2009, 08:21 AM

Here is the Silva fight if anyone didn't see it:

http://www.myvideofight.com/UFC/Silva-vs-Griffin-Video

Thanks. I can't get enough of watching that.:D

So...Anderson is the most accurate striker in the UFC and last night they indicated BJ is 3rd on that list. Who is #2?

kayaker

08-09-2009, 08:23 AM

Let's just say that I'm glad I didn't pay for this card.

I paid for it and was quite happy. To each their own I guess.:)

goalie204

08-09-2009, 09:00 AM

Let's just say that I'm glad I didn't pay for this card.

me too.

Silva wonders why people boo him, but cheer him also. He is incredibly talented no doubt, but his "showboating" makes him look like an a-hole just as much as it makes his opponents look like scrubs in his presence.

Personally I love Silva, i'd say he's the best in the world hands down. I find his showboating amusing, but i also kind of hope one day he gets caught doing it and ktfo :)

Steelergar

08-09-2009, 10:12 AM

I want Silva back at middleweight. He looks overweight at 205. What's the deal with Okami? He is ranked as one of the top middleweights in the world, he deserves a title shot. I also want to see Silva vs Maia to see how Silva handles a Abu Dhabi champion.

Yeah I just looked up Roy Jones Jr's age and that would be a joke if they fought. Silva vs Mayweather than. That guy is a punk and is always talking trash on mma fighters.

ActionAndy

08-09-2009, 10:58 AM

I'm still a bit stunned at how humiliating Silva's victory was...It was like watching someone fight Zeus. lol

NCRadioMan

08-09-2009, 01:20 PM

I'm still a bit stunned at how humiliating Silva's victory was...It was like watching someone fight Zeus. lol

Silva is much better than anyone thinks. Even those of us that think he is the bees knees. I think he could take most of the heavyweights.

This card was just terrible and the next one is even worse. This one was a 2 fight card that turned out to be a one fight card. I'll never pay to watch a UFC PPV until they put on a stacked card. They rely too much on the main event. It just tells me that the UFC isn't as deep as people think they are. Then again, I'll never pay to see that either. Too many live streams available. I'll say it again, K-1, Dream and Sengoku cards are always good from top to bottom.

Golie has it right:
that was a crap ufc, they need to put on more quality, less quantity

Silva dominated and humiliated Forrest. Him running out of the ring immediately was a b*tch move. I'll never look at him the same again. IF it went to the ground, Silva would have dominated. His bjj is just as amazing as his stand-up. He walks around normally at 205 so I don't think he looked out of place at all. And the BJ/KenFlo fight wasn't all that it was expected to be. I think KenFlo became nervous because he didn't look like himself and was timid. BJ was dominate on the ground and proved he is the best 155'er ever in the UFC. If he keeps himself in shape, nobody can beat him at 155.

I don't know why anyone would pay to see 102. Two over-the-hill fighters in the main event? And the undercard is just as crappy. I don't think so. It should be on Spike.

As far Fedor ducking, I don't think so. It's best for the UFC that he didn't come in. He would have ripped through everyone then left. The UFC heavyweight division is not good at all. They have 2, maybe 3 decent fighters. However, that could be said for just about every organization out there.

goalie204

08-09-2009, 01:36 PM

Forest had a dislocated jaw from a previous hit, and he ran out to go directly to the hospital apparently

kgoings

08-09-2009, 01:39 PM

I agree NC the next event is crap.

NCRadioMan

08-09-2009, 01:54 PM

Forest had a dislocated jaw from a previous hit, and he ran out to go directly to the hospital apparently

I guess but I don't think that is the only reason he wanted to get out of there asap. He was totally outclassed and embarrassed and he knew it.

Good article about who is next for Silva. http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=Ao1VeqO_Fj6JnQiXezvM_F89Eo14?slug=dm-silva080909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

coastietech

08-09-2009, 01:57 PM

I purchased the fight and while I thought it could have been better I was still happy with the purchase. Silva is unstoppable, the only person I could even fathom beating him is GSP if he can get to the weight needed to fight him.

BJ is pound for pound one of the greatest fighters ever and he looked good last night. I think if he keeps up this new program and dedication he has a chance at holding the title for a very long time.

kgoings

08-09-2009, 02:09 PM

What do you think about a Diego Sanchez vrs. BJ Penn fight? I really like Sanchez, but I dont think he is as good of an all around fighter as BJ. In Diegos last fight against Guida, Guida took him down and kept him down in the 2nd and 3rd. Diego was able to deal some damage from the bottom but I think in that situation BJ would have finished him.

Would like to see Hendo and Sylvia again too.

Steelergar

08-09-2009, 02:35 PM

Forrest Griffin gets $60,000 bonus for fight of the night?

chippewastud79

08-09-2009, 05:06 PM

He was totally outclassed and embarrassed and he knew it.

I don't know about getting outclassed, I found Anderson's antics to be less than classy. Forest got dominated, no doubt, he was likely embarassed and hurt at the end of that fight and wanted to get out of there ASAP. He should have probably stayed for the official announcement, barring a dislocated jaw ofcourse. Anyone who has played a sport and gets beaten (quite handedly) doesn't usually want to stick around to watch the other guy get their trophy. :2

NCRadioMan

08-09-2009, 05:10 PM

I don't know about getting outclassed, I found Anderson's antics to be less than classy. Forest got dominated, no doubt, he was likely embarassed and hurt at the end of that fight and wanted to get out of there ASAP. He should have probably stayed for the official announcement, barring a dislocated jaw ofcourse. Anyone who has played a sport and gets beaten (quite handedly) doesn't usually want to stick around to watch the other guy get their trophy. :2

Outclassed as in Forrest Gump is not in Silva's class. Nowhere near as skilled.

chippewastud79

08-09-2009, 05:11 PM

Outclassed as in Forrest Gump is not in Silva class.

Then we agree on that, frankly I am not sure there is another UFC fighter in Silva's class right now. :hm

WildBlueSooner

08-09-2009, 07:46 PM

Then we agree on that, frankly I am not sure there is another UFC fighter in Silva's class right now. :hm

:tpd: I was thinking about this and I have to agree. There is no one that I would put on the same level as Silva at the moment.

goalie204

08-10-2009, 05:39 AM

I would say GSP is on the same level. He isn't cocky and doesn't show boat tho. I'd love to see what happens if they fought. My prediction would be gsp takes him down and messes him up.

kayaker

08-10-2009, 06:33 AM

The GSP vs ASilva fight could be very interesting. GSP could give him a lot of trouble if he could get the take downs but I think Silva would win. This fight may never happen now unless GSP wants to jump 2 weight classes:

http://insidefights.com/2009/08/09/silva-seeks-permanent-light-heavyweight-move/

Also, here's an update on Forrest. Turns out the injury report was false:

http://insidefights.com/2009/08/09/griffins-post-fight-antics-not-a-result-of-injury/

goalie204

08-10-2009, 07:06 AM

GSP fights at welterweight (170) - Silva's champ at Middleweight (185) Only 1 weight class diff, silva's 205 fight was his 2nd as light heavyweight, he moved up for the fight

kayaker

08-10-2009, 08:35 AM

GSP fights at welterweight (170) - Silva's champ at Middleweight (185) Only 1 weight class diff, silva's 205 fight was his 2nd as light heavyweight, he moved up for the fight

Read the link Myles.:rolleyes:

:D

Anderson wants to move to 205 permanently.

LordOfWu

08-10-2009, 08:45 AM

BJ has always wanted to be the first to hold a title at two different weight classes, but I think Silva has the most realistic chance. Even if he refuses to fight Machida, the light heavy weight division has a lot of good fighters to chances are in the near future the title will change hands and he will get that chance. I like Machida, but he is not as dominant in LHW as Silva at MW or GSP and WW.

NCRadioMan

08-10-2009, 08:47 AM

Still stunned after watching the WEC event last night. Didn't see Torres getting beat so badly and so quickly. WOW! This was a much better card than what the UFC put on Saturday. All the fights were very entertaining and action packed.

goalie204

08-10-2009, 08:54 AM

oh sorry ;P - reading is overrated!

NCRadioMan

08-10-2009, 11:42 AM

WEC Fight Night bonuses!

LAS VEGAS - Dominick Cruz, Joseph Benavidez, Brian Bowles and Ranui Yahya each earned $10,000 "fight night" bonuses for their performances at "WEC 42: Torres vs. Bowles."

WEC 42 took place Sunday night at The Joint at The Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, and aired live on VERSUS. The bonus amounts were on par with the $10,000 bonuses that were given out at WEC 41 in June.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) confirmed the amounts and winners following the event.

In what was billed as a bantamweight No. 1 contenders' bout prior to the contest, Cruz and Benavidez put on an action-packed 15-minute affair. The two never stopped and rarely slowed throughout the affair, though Cruz got the better of the action with his extended reach and multiple takedowns. Cruz earned the unanimous decision, handing Benavidez the first loss of his career, but both fighters enjoyed a bit of extra income as the card's "Fight of the Night."

While Bowles earned the evening's only true knockout, his award for the evening's "Knockout of the Night" was hardly issued by default. Beyond simply shocking the world with his destruction of former champ Miguel Torres, the WEC's bantamweight champion showed why his heavy right hand is feared. Torres was out cold, and Bowles cashed an extra check in addition to earning a belt.

Picking the evening's "Submission of the Night" was simple, as Yahya was the only fighter to pull off a finishing move. However, the award was well-deserved as Yahya sliced through opponent John Hosman's defenses en route to securing a first-round submission win via north-south choke.

NCRadioMan

08-10-2009, 04:38 PM

SPIKE TV TO START AIRING "BEST OF PRICE FC"
Monday, August 10, 2009 - by MMAWeekly.com Staff

Spike TV on Monday announced a new weekly mixed martial arts series. Best of Pride Fighting Championships will premier on Sunday, Jan. 11, at 11 p.m. ET/PT, featuring bouts from the now defunct fighting organization owned by Zuffa, LLC, the parent company of the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Word of the series first came to light when UFC President Dana White mentioned it at his Fight Club Q&A session at UFC 101 on Friday.

Hosted by Kenda Perez, the series features past and present UFC champions among the legendary MMA combatants that includes Chuck Liddell, Anderson Silva, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Dan Henderson, Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic, Wanderlei Silva, Fedor Emelianenko, Josh Barnett, Mauricio Shogun Rua, Mark Coleman, Frank Trigg, Hidehiko Yoshida, Akihro Gono, and Takanoro Gomi.

As the destination for the best mixed martial arts on television, Spike TV is always looking for ways to give fight fans more of the incredible action and competition they crave, said Kevin Kay, president, Spike TV.

Pride held more than 60 mixed martial arts events during a decade of operation including the largest live MMA event audience record of over 70,000 people in August 2002. Zuffa, LLC purchased Pride in March 2007.

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DIAZ OFFICIALLY OFF THE CARD ACCORDING TO CSAC

It's Nick being Nick. The elder Diaz brother is one of the top 20 fighters in the world but the kid is a handful for any promoter. Diaz, who has boasted many times in the past that he's a marijuana smoker, no showed his mandatory test with the California State Athletic Commission on Friday. Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker told the gathered media during a conference call today that the deadline is 3 p.m. PT. With all the uncertainty, the backup plan is now Jesse Taylor, of Ultimate Fighter 7 fame, squaring off against Jay Hieron. This fight has become a disaster. Remember Hieron was a late replacement for Joe Riggs.

Coker is taking the Diaz drama in stride:

"We've been in the business for 25 years -- in the martial arts fight business," he said. "And you know, when I was in my early 20's, and something like this happened, I would freak out, and get upset. But over the years, you know, you learn that it's part of the game. And you don't even try to create logic behind it because sometimes there's no logic behind the thought-process of, you know, what has happened or a fighter's decision or a manager's decision or just the circumstances that unfold because of circumstances."

UPDATE: DIAZ OFFICIALLY OFF THE CARD ACCORDING TO CSAC:
According to MMAWeekly, Bill Douglas, Assistant Executive Officer of the CSAC, said there would be no Monday test:
If Mr. Diaz is in fact in route to Los Angeles, then it is news to us because he has not notified us and considering that we are administering the test, wrote Douglas, I suggest that he or someone from his camp lets their fingers do the walking, reaches out to touch someone, or any other colorful catch phrase that you can think of stemming from an old telephone commercial."
Hieron said on the conference call that he wasn't going to freak out, after having several fights canceled or delayed over the last 18 months:

"I think I've been through everything bad a fighter could be through in his career. So I just chalk it up and keep going forward. Really, I can't control that situation with them, so I try to put it out of my mind. You know, everything will turn out the way it's supposed to, and I can't really stress about the situation. The good thing about it is that I've been through all this stuff before, and it helps me get through this."
Coker said that he had spoken with Diaz's trainer Cesar Gracie. He also mention the promotion had booked a flight for Diaz to get down to Los Angeles from Stockton this afternoon. This is a huge blow to the card and another slap in the face of Hieron, who loses out on a chance at a victory over a major name.

Steelergar

08-10-2009, 09:56 PM

Hey guys I was just watching some old Antonio Silva fights, this guy looks pretty impressive. I was also looking up Aleksander Emelianenko because he KO'd the only guy that beat Silva. Aleksander is still a young guy (28) and has been finishing fights easily, most in the 1st round (just like his bro). I thought it was interesting for Aleksander's bio it says he once killed a bear by trapping its head with a fork like staff then stabbed it in the heart with a knife. That takes alot balls. He is also bigger than Fedor at 6-6 255lbs. To bad he cant fight in the USA. His next fight is against Blagoi Ivanov (the guy that beat his bro in combat Sambo) in September. I am looking forward to that one.

Ken

08-11-2009, 10:47 AM

Every time I watch a Matt Riddle fight I like him even more. Let's go Mr. Heatmeiser! :tu

I'll agree that UFC 102 doesn't look great though there are a few fights I think are going to be good. Not sure why Leben's fight is on the main card. I have to say I really want to see Tuchscherer destroy Gonzaga.

NCRadioMan

08-11-2009, 05:29 PM

NO WHERE BUT UP FOR ANDERSON SILVA?
by Ken Pishna - MMAWeekly.com

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Whats next for Anderson Silva? That is the million dollar or perhaps multi-million dollar question.

After moving up in weight and dismantling No. 3 ranked light heavyweight Forrest Griffin at UFC 101 on Saturday night, it was all but a foregone conclusion that he would drop back down to 185 pounds to defend his middleweight belt.

I think his next fight is at 185 pounds, probably against Dan Henderson, said UFC President Dana White at the post-fight press conference. I think we're gonna do him and Dan again. And then, I don't know. He goes back to 205. He could do anything.

And do anything could be coming a lot sooner than even White had anticipated.

Yahoo! Sports Dan Wetzel reported that following the fight, in the wee hours of morning, Silvas manager, Ed Soares, approached White with an unexpected proposition. That proposition being Anderson Silva forego defending his middleweight title to make a permanent move up to light heavyweight.

Id let him, White later told Wetzel. Wed put (the middleweight title) up for grabs.

No word yet out of Octagon Central, but its an interesting proposition with blockbuster fights written all over it. While Silva is running out of options at middleweight, Rashad Evans, Quinton Jackson, Mauricio Shogun Rua, or the returning Tito Ortiz await at 205. And though Silva discounts ever fighting him, there is also current champion and Silva teammate Lyoto Machida.

With his win over Griffin, Silva took one more step in proving White correct. He's the most talented fighter in the world. He's pound-for-pound the best in the world. He proved tonight, not only that he's that, but he can dominate in two different weight divisions.

It now sounds as if he wants to be done in one of those two weight classes, perhaps enjoying the added power that accompanies the added bulk at 205.

If Silva and the UFC brass do decide to put the middleweight title up for grabs, Silva will likely have to let his words of solidarity fall by the wayside.

Lyoto's my friend, he's my brother, and there is no way that fight will happen, he declared at the press conference.

But if he moves up and both keep winning, an eventual collision would be inevitable.

If Anderson gets to that point where he starts taking out 205-pounders, I'll make that fight, White stated just as emphatically. I promise you, I'll make that fight.

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Dana White still uncertain whether Chuck Liddell's retirement is permanent
by Dann Stupp

Is Chuck Liddell really retired?

It seems the man who first announced the former champion's career conclusion isn't even sure these days.

After a knockout loss to Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 97 in April, UFC president Dana White announced in a post-fight press conference that Liddell had entered the octagon for the final time. Now, though, he hasn't completely shut the door on his longtime friend and former manager fighting once more.

"He's a huge superstar, and we could still sell lots of tickets (with Liddell)," White said in April. "But I don't care about that. I care about him. I care about his health, and it's over, man. It's over."

A few weeks later John Hackleman, the trainer of the recent UFC Hall of Fame inductee, told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) Liddell could still compete with the best.

"I don't know what's going to happen," Hackleman said. "Just on his abilities, his skill and his power, and what he has left, I think he has more than one fight left in him. Maybe his game isn't what it was 10 years ago. I don't know. But he's definitely at the top of the food chain.

The episode has played out in the media since the spring with White, Hackleman, the media, fans - everyone but Liddell himself - giving definitive thoughts. Liddell recently said he'd take a year off and decide early next year to fight again.

And echoing comments first made in May, White hasn't ruled out the possibility.

"I don't want him to (fight)," White said after this past weekend's UFC 101 event. "He wants to, so we'll see what happens."

WildBlueSooner

08-11-2009, 05:35 PM

Interesting. Would be cool to see him put the middleweight up in the air, and move on up. The door would be open for one hell of a PPV!

NCRadioMan

08-12-2009, 09:25 AM

NOT SO FAST, ANDERSON STILL WANTS TO SWING

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9352&zoneid=2

Hot on the heels of reports that Anderson Silva had acquired a permanent taste for the 205-pound division, it appears that the most dominant middleweight champion in UFC history isnt quite ready to relinquish his throne at 185.

A recent column by Yahoo! Sports writer Dan Wetzel stated that Silvas manager, Ed Soares, told UFC President Dana White that his client was willing to make the move to light heavyweight permanent, even if it meant dropping his middleweight belt in the process.

Not so Soares told MMAWeekly.com, saying hes not sure where that information was drawn from.

Its not true. I never said that to Dana, stated the Brazilians chief negotiator. I never said he would move up and relinquish the title. I have said to Dana that hed like to fight again at 205 (but not permanently).

After UFC 101, where Silva dismantled Forrest Griffin at 205, White indicated that Silvas next bout would likely be a drop back down to 185 to defend his belt against Dan Henderson. That would be a rematch of their first bout of a year-and-a-half ago, when Silva won with a decisive second round submission.

Soares isnt so sure that Henderson is the person that deserves the next middleweight title shot.

Since losing to Silva at UFC 82, Henderson has three straight victories: a unanimous decision over Rousimar Palhares at 185, a split decision win over Rich Franklin at light heavyweight, and a middleweight knockout victory over Michael Bisping.

Does that really make him a number one contender? I feel a true number one opponent (at 185) would be if Henderson fought the winner of Nate Marquardt and Damian Maia, Soares told MMAWeekly.com. That would produce a true number one contender... we could take another fight at 205 or a catchweight fight (in the meantime).

As for his clients future, nothing has changed.

Ive always said the same thing, he wants the biggest fights possible, whether its at 205 or 185.

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A knee injury has forced UFC veteran Chris Lytle (27-17-5 MMA, 6-9 UFC) out of a scheduled UFC Fight Nigh 19 bout with Carlos Condit.

Ken Pavia of MMAAgents.com, which reps Lytle, today told MMAjunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com) the longtime UFC fighter and runner up on "The Ultimate Fighter 4" tore his meniscus and now has a "blown ACL."

The UFC has not officially announced Lytle's departure from the card, though the organization has ample to find a replacement for the Sept. 16 fight, which was part of the night's Spike TV-televised main card.

UFC Fight Night 19 takes place at the Cox Convention Center in Oklahoma City, Okla., and serves as a lead-in for the debut episode of "The Ultimate Fighter 10."

Lytle, fresh off a "Fight of the Night" victory over Kevin Burns at The Ultimate Fighter 9 Finale in June, has won two of his past three fights, the lone loss coming to Marcus Davis via split decision. Lytle continued his recent windfall by picking up his third straight "Fight of the Night" bonus and fourth overall. In fact, including fight-night bonuses for submissions and knockouts, he's won six bonuses in his past eight fights.

A timetable for the veteran's return is not immediately known.

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The UFC set to counter Strikeforce this Saturday with UFC 100 replay

The UFC are at it again with their counter programming policy, this time targeting Saturdays Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg event with the historic UFC 100 show from last month.

It has been revealed that the UFC will counter with several bouts from the night in question free on SPIKE TV, although the order has not been confirmed. Past experiences would expect them to run the majority of the main card which featured championship bouts between Brock Lesnar, Frank Mir, Georges St. Pierre and Thiago Alves.

The UFC have used this tactic in the past to great effect with Affliction and have made it public that they are not on good terms with Strikeforce, especially since the California based promotion snapped up WAMMA heavyweight champion, Fedor Emelianenko.

By Michael Pepper.

Original source: FoxSports.com

LordOfWu

08-12-2009, 09:30 AM

Too bad about Lytle, he is always good for an exciting fight.

:(

NCRadioMan

08-12-2009, 03:42 PM

Jon Fitch vs Ricardo Almeida in the works for UFC 106

Fresh off his unanimous decision victory over Kendall Grove at UFC 101, MMAmania.com has learned that Ricardo Almeida (11-3) will finally get to make his welterweight debut when he tangles with 170-pound stalwart Jon Fitch (19-3) at UFC 106 from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Nov. 21.

Since returning to the sport of mixed martial arts after a self-imposed three-year layoff to open the Ricardo Almeida Jiu-Jitsu Academy in Hamilton, N.J., Cachorrao has posted a 3-1 record, which includes wins over Grove, as well as the previously unbeaten Rob Yundt at UFC 81 and Matt Horwich at UFC Fight Night 18.

The lone loss came via split decision to the hard-hitting Patrick Cote at UFC 86 a fight that earned The Predator a title shot against middleweight kingpin, Anderson Silva.

Almeida was expected to make the drop in weight prior to UFC 101; however, Joe Silva offered him a chance to fight in front of his hometown crowd if he remained at 185-pounds to mix it up with Da Spyder during the televised portion of the Philadelphia event.

It was an offer he couldnt, and didnt, refuse.

Steelergar

08-12-2009, 10:27 PM

Thales Leites has been cut from the UFC. Went from #1 contender 3 months ago to jobless. WTF

BengalMan

08-14-2009, 08:23 AM

Lots of stuff going on in this thread with last weekends cards. I was in New Orleans for the IPCPR show and was able to get away from the show and Bourbon St. Saturday night to stream UFC 101 in the hotel room. All I can say about the Forrest/Anderson fights was WOW. Anderson continues to make things look so easy. BJ looked great as well. I always enjoy seeing him fight.

I missed the WEC card though, but when I looked up MMA Mania and saw that Torres lost in such a brutal fashion in the first round I was shocked. Too bad we won't see Bowlds in action again for some time with that broken hand.

I was really excited to see the Strikeforce card tonight due to Nick Diaz being on it. Not anymore. Guess he likes smoking weed more than being a fighter and making a ton of money. What a fool. I think the card will still be good, but with Diaz on it, it would have been that much better.

Ken

08-14-2009, 10:11 AM

ActionAndy

08-14-2009, 10:23 AM

So the UFC dropped Tamdan McCrory and signed Phil Baroni; WTF!

Strikeforce working on Fedor Emelianenko vs. Ricco Rodriguez; HAHAHAHA WTF! You have got to be kidding me.:r Might as fight in side-shows. There is nothing at all for Fedor to gain out of this fight. He should destroy Ricco as quick as he disposed of Timmy. I think I'll root for an upset.:D Let's wait to see if this deal gets inked.

I went to the same college as Tamdan. Never talked to him but he did go to the same bar quite often. Kinda bummed to see him out, hopefully he finds a way to get resigned.

Steelergar

08-14-2009, 10:56 AM

Too bad nick diaz isn't on the card tomorrow I was looking forward to it. But I just realized Melendez is fighting Ishida. I saw their fight at Yarenoka and Melendez clearly won that fight. Japanese homecooking gave him his 1st loss. I imagine Melendez is going to come out on fire. The American fans get to see Gregard Mousasi for the first time. I think this guy was fighter of the year last year. In 2008 he was 6-0 in mma 1-0 in kickboxing, won a stacked middleweight tournament, moved up to heavyweight and subed Mark Hunt, and he finished all his opponents except one (a olympic medal winner in Judo). It probably doesn't hurt that he trains at team red devil either. And the kid is only 24. Look forward to seeing Werdum as well. Even though he was KO'd by Santos, Werdum took a chance and got caught, that happens. He would still be a contender in the UFC. And I never watched a female mma fight before but cyborg sounds like a female Wandy and Santos is hot. I would like to see that Gracie girl too

chippewastud79

08-14-2009, 11:09 AM

signed Phil Baroni

Fire up Chips! :tu

Ken

08-14-2009, 12:23 PM

I went to the same college as Tamdan.
Seems like a pretty good guy and he puts on good fights. He went into the UFC 8-0 and has been 3-3 while there. There's a big difference in how losses are looked at in the UFC compared to Pride. If you are fighting tough opponents you are going to pickup a loss here or here. But the guy comes to fight.

Too bad nick diaz isn't on the card tomorrow I was looking forward to it. But I just realized Melendez is fighting Ishida.The American fans get to see Gregard Mousasi And I never watched a female mma fight before but cyborg sounds like a female Wandy and Santos is hot. I would like to see that Gracie girl too
It is a shame Diaz is off the card. That guy has been putting up good wins. - Mousasi is tough and this is going to be a good fight. - Do you mean "Carano is hot". Cyborg is Santos.

D. White has stated that McCrory & Leites are back in the UFC, he's reversing who ever made that call.

sodomanaz

08-14-2009, 12:30 PM

McCrory and Leites are back.

Steelergar

08-14-2009, 12:44 PM

- Do you mean "Carano is hot". Cyborg is Santos.

D. White has stated that McCrory & Leites are back in the UFC, he's reversing who ever made that call.

Hell yeah Cyborg is hot. Just kidding I meant Carano. Thats good that they brought back Thales. That guy is pretty good and trains with some top level fighters.
On another note I am not a fan of the California testing agency. They have been wrong in the past about positive test and I wouldn't be suprised if Barnett was clean for his fight. Royce Gracie tested positive for crying out loud. Athletes have higher levels than normal people. They need to test their DNA also to have an accurate result. For Diaz since when does THC make you a stronger fighter. And its banned by the California testing agency in a state where small possession is not a crime?

BengalMan

08-15-2009, 10:22 PM

Cyborg almost isn't fair, lol. Werdum looked slick, Melendez had an amazing game plan and utilized it to take the win. Melendez look great. Then there's Mousasi, who not many in the states know about, but I for one was pumped to finally see him over here. Making quick work of Babalu like that is no easy task. Mousasi is going to be a serious threat for many years to come.

Steelergar

08-16-2009, 02:17 AM

ActionAndy

08-16-2009, 11:34 AM

It was kind of tough watching hot carano get beat up. I would like to see Cyborg fight Faber. Werdum made it look easy. One of the coolest things about Mousasi is that he is so calm in the ring, even after he exploded on Babalu.

I know sexism is out of style but I don't think any woman could actually hang with an experienced male fighter. I enjoyed the Carano Cyborg fight but the entire time I kept thinking wow, these are the two best female fighters? Am I out of line thinking it was just a sloppy fight? Cyborg was mounted with very little resistance...and then Carano just stood up out of it. Some very odd decisions got made in that fight...

RRocket

08-16-2009, 11:39 PM

I know sexism is out of style but I don't think any woman could actually hang with an experienced male fighter. I enjoyed the Carano Cyborg fight but the entire time I kept thinking wow, these are the two best female fighters? Am I out of line thinking it was just a sloppy fight? Cyborg was mounted with very little resistance...and then Carano just stood up out of it. Some very odd decisions got made in that fight...

Lucia Rijker actually fought Somchai Jaidee (a former male champion) after Rijker had destroyed nearly every woman she fought (36-0, 25 KO). Jaidee ending up KOing her in the 2nd round though. You can find the vid on YouTube. When Rijker was being trained by legendary trainer Freddie Roach, Rjiker floored one of Roach's male champs in sparring...though Freddie would never say who it was. She also did a piece for Discovery Channel Fight Science. Lucia and a male boxer, both 140 lbs, left hooked a blind folded MMA fighter, and the fighter said Lucia's punch was harder. She is the toughest female fighter I've ever seen..and her style is the cleanest most "male like" I've ever seen. When she was in her prime against the right guy, I could definitely see her coming out on top.

As far as Carano..I never thought she was as much into MMA for fighting as she was to advance her career into acting/TV/modelling/whatever. She's been over-weight for several weigh-ins, left MMA for awhile to be an American Gladiator and is reputed to have gotten a "boob job" and supposedly will be posing for Playboy. This doesn't sound like someone who's #1 focus is MMA. To me she looked gassed by 2 minutes of the round. From then I though it would only be a matter of time..and it was.

Ken

08-17-2009, 09:26 AM

Mousasi is going to be a serious threat for many years to come.
The guy is badass. White seemed pissed they didn't land him in the UFC.

Am I out of line thinking it was just a sloppy fight?

Nope! It was a bit sloppy with things went into the clinch & on the ground. I still liked the fight, though.

supposedly will be posing for Playboy.

Carano has shot them down several times. damn!

NCRadioMan

08-17-2009, 10:44 AM

Good card. Good fights. Cyborg is awesome!

Penn Wants Bout With Sanchez Sooner Rather Than Later

UFC Lightweight Champ BJ Penn talks to The Hawaii Tribune Herald about his proposed match up with Diego Sanchez and when he'd like to see it happen:

Its gonna happen, hopefully within the next two, two-and-a-half months. Im 30 now and Im hoping to get a couple of more fights in. I know they say that in MMA, people peak later, but who knows? My whole career, fighting from age 20 to 30, Ive gotten into real good shape and gotten out of shape and started getting back into shape again. I dont want to do that anymore. Here I am. Im in shape. I want to have fun for a couple of days, take some time off, eat some good food, and then I want to get right back into all that stuff. Diego is" really good, he's really explosive. He's shown that he has some knockout power and hes a very good grappler. He's very hungry, he's shown that he wants to be a champion someday. This is an important fight. I'd like to get a fight with St. Pierre again, but now that Diego Sanchez is next, once we get the word from Dana White, thats what were gonna be thinkin about.

Cung Le Eyes Return To Strikeforce By The End Of The Year

While Strikeforce has made recent headlines with the impressive roster of new talent company officials have managed to bring to the organization, one familiar face has remained unseen for more than a year.

Strikeforce middleweight champion Cung Le (6-0) hasn't fought since earning the title with a TKO win over Frank Shamrock in March 2008, and many MMA fans are calling for the flashy striker to give up the belt.

But as Le recently told MMAjunkie.com Radio (http://www.mmajunkie.com/radio), Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker isn't of the same opinion.

"I had that conversation with Scott Coker," Le said. "I think we talked maybe a week ago, and he said he's trying to figure out when the next CBS date will be. He said as soon as he squares away that deal, am I interested in fighting? I said, 'Of course.'

Coker said either the end of the year or early next year he should get that CBS deal going and I should be back in there throwing kicks."

LordOfWu

08-17-2009, 10:47 AM

ActionAndy

08-17-2009, 11:11 AM

Lucia Rijker actually fought Somchai Jaidee (a former male champion) after Rijker had destroyed nearly every woman she fought (36-0, 25 KO). Jaidee ending up KOing her in the 2nd round though. You can find the vid on YouTube. When Rijker was being trained by legendary trainer Freddie Roach, Rjiker floored one of Roach's male champs in sparring...though Freddie would never say who it was. She also did a piece for Discovery Channel Fight Science. Lucia and a male boxer, both 140 lbs, left hooked a blind folded MMA fighter, and the fighter said Lucia's punch was harder. She is the toughest female fighter I've ever seen..and her style is the cleanest most "male like" I've ever seen. When she was in her prime against the right guy, I could definitely see her coming out on top.

As far as Carano..I never thought she was as much into MMA for fighting as she was to advance her career into acting/TV/modelling/whatever. She's been over-weight for several weigh-ins, left MMA for awhile to be an American Gladiator and is reputed to have gotten a "boob job" and supposedly will be posing for Playboy. This doesn't sound like someone who's #1 focus is MMA. To me she looked gassed by 2 minutes of the round. From then I though it would only be a matter of time..and it was.

Thanks I'll go check for those clips! And yeah, Carano was definitely gassed.

NCRadioMan

08-17-2009, 12:54 PM

I like Cung Le, but for crying out loud! How do you get a belt and not fight for almost a year and a half?!? And now it might be early next year? Not good, and doesn't make Strikeforce look like it has it's ducks in a row either.

Gotta agree. He should have been stripped. I just found this recent article.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/236015-a-bleacher-report-exclusive-interview-with-cung-le

Seems he has been filming movies, including Tekken and resting his elbow injury.

Mike Leanza (Bleacher Report)- I'm sure you've probably heard this already but Jake Shields was offered a fight later this year for the interim middleweight championship. When asked about you he said it was "retarted" that you hadn't been stripped of the title. Any thoughts on that?

Cung Le- I don't have any thoughts on it. I don't blame Jake or anyone that feels that way. If they were in my position I'm sure they'd get the same comments. Obviously they don't have the opportunities that I have and I'm not mad at them at all. I feel bad. I said if eventually I don't defend my title than I'll have to vacate the title. It's not fair for other fighters not to be able to fight for the title.

I'm just striking while the iron is hot. I guarantee that 99.9% of the fighters out there would be doing the same thing. I love fighting and if I can fight forever than I'll fight forever.

The pay in MMA has gotten alot better but at the same time movies pay well too. And in the movies down the road when a movie comes out your get royalty checks every quarter. That doesn't happen in fighting.

I love fighting but I can't do it forever. I still have fights left in me and when the time comes I'll be back in the cage. In the meantime, Strikeforce only acquired Jake's contract this year. He's only fought one time.

Yeah, he got a great win but I've been with Strikeforce since the beginning. I have six fights with Strikeforce. I was there in the kickboxing days and when Scott Coker needs me to step up, I step up.

I don't mind what anybody says. It's probably retarted to Jake but if he were in my shoes right now, he'd be doing the same thing.

Mike Leanza (Bleacher Report)- You've been gone for over a year now, do you fear any ring rust might spoil your return later down the road?

Cung Le- I guarantee there will be a little bit of ring rust. I haven't been training like a fighter but I have been training. I get my sparring in here and there and time Josh Thompson comes in he sees me training but it's not the same when your not training for a fight. You just get in a different zone.

I just have to make sure when I come back that I'm ready to defend the title or whatever the case is. If I'm not ready than I won't do it. I'm not a fighter that will just jump in there. I want to do it when I'm ready because I'm the one fighting.

goalie204

08-17-2009, 04:33 PM

chuck lidell to be on dancing with the stars

NCRadioMan

08-17-2009, 05:31 PM

'Jacare' Signs With Strikeforce

Fresh on the heels of todays announcement that Jake Shields will fight this fall for the Strikeforce interim middleweight championship, the promotion announced that Ronaldo Souza has been added to the 185-pound roster with a you guessed it fall 2009 debut.

Heres a snip from Jacare on the signing:

I am very excited that I will have the opportunity to fight in STRIKEFORCE amongst many of the worlds best middleweight fighters. STRIKEFORCE has an extremely deep roster of top middleweight fighters. I am looking forward to the challenge and to taking my career to the next level.

Jacare is perhaps best known (outside of his ridiculous jits) for his battles with Jason Miller over in DREAM. He outpointed Mayhem back in 2008 and their rematch was ruled a no contest after Souza was split open with a kick that officials deemed illegal.

No word yet on what will happen to their planned third tilt scheduled for DREAM 11 in September in light of this recent news.

The Alligator (Jacare translated) is a two-time Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion who placed second in the absolute division of the 2005 Abu Dhabi Combat Club (ADCC) world championships, losing to Roger Gracie by submission (rear naked choke).

He also competed against UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture in a Professional Submission League grappling match in 2006, taking The Natural to a scoreless draw.

After getting knocked out in his mixed martial arts debut back in 2003, Souza put together a torrid 10-fight win streak, finishing nine of his victims by way of submission.

That streak came to a crashing halt courtesy of a perfectly timed upkick from Gegard Mousasi in the finals of the DREAM 2008 middleweight grand prix last September.

At 10-2, the Brazilian is a dangerous addition to any promotion, and should further bolster the Strikeforce middleweight roster.

In fact, with Shields and now Jacare, Cung Le might want to think twice about rushing back from his hoedown in Hollywood to unify the belts.

http://mmamania.com/2009/08/04/ronaldo-jacare-souza-signs-with-strikeforce/

This is freaking hilarious!

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/153284/runforrest.gif

BORIStheBLADE

08-18-2009, 02:40 PM

'Jacare' Signs With Strikeforce

This is freaking hilarious!

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/153284/runforrest.gif

:r:r:r:r

Carano got paid $125k for that fight , holy crap!

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9399&zoneid=2

ActionAndy

08-18-2009, 03:59 PM

:r:r:r:r

Carano got paid $125k for that fight , holy crap!

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9399&zoneid=2

And for 125k you think she'd have bothered putting gas in the tank. She looked pathetic.

RRocket

08-18-2009, 05:21 PM

And for 125k you think she'd have bothered putting gas in the tank. She looked pathetic.

Agreed, Andy. She struggled to make weight for this fight too. I'm sure you heard about the whole nude weigh in thing...

She's just never really been focused in MMA IMO...

NCRadioMan

08-18-2009, 10:16 PM

A couple of mma news bits:

Former light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz is set to make his return to the Octagon opposite the first-ever heavyweight champion for the promotion, Mark Coleman, at UFC 106 from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Nov. 21.

Mike Disabato, founder of MMA Authentics and long-time friend/training partner of Coleman, today confirmed the rumored 205-pound match up via Twitter.com.

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Lil Nog to joins the UFC.

The UFC will soon have a notable addition to its light-heavyweight division, according to former UFC interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.

During a media conference call to promote his upcoming UFC 102 main-event fight with Randy Couture, "Minotauro" Nogueira said his twin brother, Antonio Rogerio "Minotoro" Nogueira, will soon be announced as a UFC fighter.

Additionally, a source close to the fighter today told MMAjunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com) "Little Nog" has been scratched from a Sept. 12 Bitetti Combat show, where he was slated to fight Alex Stiebling.

The UFC has yet to make an official announcement, and Tom Huggins of Bitetti Combat informed MMAjunkie.com that he was unaware of Nogueira's intentions to withdraw from the contest. Huggins also said that the Sept. 12 event will go on as planned regardless of the light heavyweight's ultimate decision.

"Minotoro" Nogueira, a former PRIDE and Affliction fighter, owns a 17-3 career record and current five-fight win streak.

"He's coming to the UFC very soon," "Minotauro" said of his brother. "They (UFC officials) are going to announce that. I don't know when. They've already talked to him, so for sure he's coming to the UFC.

"You're going to hear that."

Nogueira, who submitted Dion Staring at a May Jungle Fight event in Brazil, was recently announced as a participant in next month's Bitetti Combat show. However, it's not known if his departure from the card is directly related to the UFC deal.

"Minotoro," 33, turned pro in 2002 and is widely regarded as one of the top 10 or 15 fighters in the light-heavyweight division. His career includes victories over notables such as Alistair Overeem (twice), Dan Henderson, Guy Mezger and Kazushi Sakuraba.

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Wanderlei Silva has facial surgery, ruled out of UFC 105

MMABay can EXCLUSIVELY reveal that former PRIDE FC middleweight champion, Wanderlei “The Axe Murderer” Silva has undergone extensive facial surgery in Brazil ruling him out of his proposed fight with Michael Bisping in the UK.

After seeing pictures posted on a popular internet forum of the star, MMABay contacted a source in Las Vegas that shed light on the situation. Surgery of this type normally takes 3-4 weeks to recover from but due to circumstances beyond control, the Brazilian will have to sit out the rest of the year.

Wanderlei was all set to square off with UK star, Michael Bisping at UFC 105 on November 14th in Manchester, England but when MMABay contacted management at the Widnes based gym tonight we were told “The Count” had no opponent at this time, backing up what our source had told us in Brazil.

http://mmabay.co.uk/Story%2002334.html

RRocket

08-18-2009, 11:20 PM

BORIStheBLADE

08-19-2009, 12:43 AM

And for 125k you think she'd have bothered putting gas in the tank. She looked pathetic.

I had some friends ask me about her fight and I said the same thing. I'm not an expert, but I think she can use some boxing work. She might have been able to go a bit longer if her puncher better placed with a little more power.

Ken

08-19-2009, 08:19 AM

I don't recall hearing ANY of my friends or other hard-core MMA fans say "I wish Tito would fight Coleman". This will be a crap fight IMO. Coleman is damn near what...50 years old? The UFC is well on it's way to becoming WWE......:td
Totally agree. Who wants to see this fight??? Though can we refrain from using suck terms as highlighted. And the UFC isn't the WWE.

I had some friends ask me about her fight and I said the same thing. I'm not an expert, but I think she can use some boxing work. She might have been able to go a bit longer if her puncher better placed with a little more power.

Gina just didn't train enough like you'd expect someone to do walking into a title fight. I think both of these women should think about fighting a little heavier.

NCRadioMan

08-19-2009, 12:39 PM

Dana had said that this is the match-up fans want to see most. Is it?? I don't recall hearing ANY of my friends or other hard-core MMA fans say "I wish Tito would fight Coleman". This will be a crap fight IMO. Coleman is damn near what...50 years old? The UFC is well on it's way to becoming WWE......:td

He's giving Tito a tomato can on his first fight back. Frankly, I don't think the majority of people wants to see the master of lay and pray, Tito, either. These guys are both yesterday's news.

RRocket

08-19-2009, 04:00 PM

Totally agree. Who wants to see this fight??? Though can we refrain from using suck terms as highlighted. And the UFC isn't the WWE.

I don't see what your issue is with the highlighted terms...What am I missing?

Steelergar

08-19-2009, 11:09 PM

Minotouro is guaranteed at Bitetti combat. After reading rumors on the internet Lil nog contacted the promotion to say he will be there to fight Alex Steibling. Minotouro said "I'm in. Nothing can keep me out of this event. I want to fight and I can't miss this one. I'm ready and dying to fight," .
But after Bitetti combat Lil nog pretty much has a done deal with UFC. Lil nog, Ricardo Arona, and Pedro Rizzo are scheduled to undergo test by the Army School of physical education around the time of the event, the first mma fighters ever to do so.

Ken

08-20-2009, 08:14 AM

I don't see what your issue is with the highlighted terms...What am I missing?
I'd just really hate to start seeing "I'm a hard-core fan" in these threads as much as I'd hate to see "I'm a real cigar smoker" placed in all the CC threads.

As far as UFC 103, there are some good fights, but does it earn PPV status?:confused:

Steelergar

08-20-2009, 08:29 AM

As far as UFC 103, there are some good fights, but does it earn PPV status?:confused:

I don't think its worth it. Though I do want to see the last 2 fight on the card. UFC 104 looks even worse eventhough the main event might be fight of the year. If the UFC is so stacked, how comes most of their cards blow?

ActionAndy

08-20-2009, 08:59 AM

RRocket

08-20-2009, 03:43 PM

Checked some MMA lines today and Crocop is listed as Even while Dos Santos is at -135ish. I don't know anything about Junior Dos Santos--is he really expected to win? Crocop's a pretty formidable guy.

Cro-Cop hasn't done terribly well in the last year. If regulations are the same for boxing, if you get KO'ed, you get a 90 day vacation from competing in sanctioned events in many states. So maybe some ring-rust of sorts+poor showing over the last year?

I agree though...Mirko is a pretty tough dude and can end the fight with one shot...

RRocket

08-20-2009, 03:45 PM

I'd just really hate to start seeing "I'm a hard-core fan" in these threads as much as I'd hate to see "I'm a real cigar smoker" placed in all the CC threads.

Ummm....Ok.:rolleyes:

yachties23

08-20-2009, 05:02 PM

Whats everybody's take on Carwin/Lesnar? Just saw it posted on Google News for 106.

NCRadioMan

08-20-2009, 08:32 PM

Two really big guys with lots of power but when it comes down to it, I think Brock is the better wrestler and will prevail.

Some news:

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9410&zoneid=2

According to a new rule passed by the Nevada State Athletic Commission Wednesday, referees in Nevada now have the opportunity to get a second look at a fight’s end to determine its legality.

The final wording as passed: “A referee at the conclusion of a contest or exhibition stopped immediately due to an injury to an unarmed combatant pursuant to NAC 467.718 and after making a decision, may view a replay if available in order to determine whether the injury in question was caused a legal blow or a foul.”

The rule addresses several controversial stoppages in recent history where a fighter lost a contest because the referee couldn’t see an injury that forced a bout’s stoppage.

A referee may now use instant replay to determine whether the action that caused the injury was legal or a foul and make a decision on the fight’s result. Only a referee can decide whether to order a replay.

In one of the most prominent examples of the need to address injury stoppages, UFC welterweight Anthony Johnson was unintentionally poked in the eye by Kevin Burns at UFC Fight Night 14 last July and was denied an appeal to his TKO loss due to the commission’s “lack of remedy” on the incident.

After a discussion on the issues surrounding the new rule, the five-member commission passed it by unanimous vote. NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer told MMAWeekly.com the rule could take effect in as early as 30 days.

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The “UFC 103: Franklin vs. Belfort” pay-per-view card is going toe-to-toe with the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez HBO pay-per-view event on Sept. 19.

The UFC is known for its creative marketing and counter-programming tactics and it looks like the MMA giant has come up with a good plan to beef up awareness for UFC 103.

The UFC will air a two-hour telecast of the UFC 103 undercard commercial free on Spike TV as a lead in for the UFC 103 main card on pay-per-view, according to a source at the UFC.

It remains to be seen how well either event will do with two major PPV events on the same night.

Will the UFC, which has been flourishing on PPV in these tough economic times, take a hit going head-to-head with a major boxing card?

Is Mayweather a legit pay-per-view draw? He had Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton to help pump up sales in his two biggest PPV fights.

Will boxing fans, who also follow MMA, bail on the UFC to see Mayweather back in action or will they be lured into watching Rich Franklin take on Vitor Belfort at UFC 103?

One thing is for sure, it’s going to be an interesting night of fights

http://punch.freedomblogging.com/2009/08/20/ufc-103-undercard-to-be-telvised-on-spike-tv/6361/

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Looks like B.J. Penn was still able to get some changes through in his case against Georges St. Pierre... there is now a rule known as the "B.J. Penn Rule" that will allow the referee to foul fighters for excessive use of a substance that is deemed illegal.

"In a meeting held Wednesday in Las Vegas, the NSAC approved language prohibiting the use of foreign substances on a fighter’s body prior to or during a fight that "could result in an unfair advantage.

Dubbed by a commission official as the "B.J. Penn Rule," the use of foreign substances will now be added to a list of "fouls" in the Nevada Administrative Code that address tactics illegal to fighters, such as eye gouging, small joint manipulation, or biting."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/20/996079/looks-like-b-j-penn-was-still-able

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The Real Offer The UFC Presented To Fedor

The UFC's courtship of Fedor Emelianenko, which has been ongoing for nearly two years, ended again at the end of last month when the Russian heavyweight signed with Strikeforce. Ever since Zuffa, the parent company of the UFC, purchased Pride FC in March 2007, the UFC has been in hot pursuit of Fedor. Despite the years of pursuit, Fedor has yet to meet in person with UFC President Dana White or UFC co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta.

A lot of rumors have circulated about the offer that the UFC presented to Fedor. According to Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer newsletter, both sides met on July 28th. Dana White and Lorenzo Fertitta were present at the meeting, as was Fedor's manager Vadim Finkelchtein, while Fedor listened in on a phone line and never said a word.

As reported last month, the UFC deal leaked to the internet by CBS Radio MMA host Carmichael Dave was for six fights at $30 million. According to Meltzer, that number is not accurate. The UFC presented Fedor with a three-fight deal, thinking that the fewer fights would be more enticing for Fedor as opposed to a longer term deal. The actual number was a $2 million guarantee per fight, plus a sliding percentage on PPV buys, so Fedor's per-fight take could have reached $5 million. While there was no $30 million offer, if he won the championship and the sport continued to draw the numbers it's doing now, he could have earned more. However, it is unclear if he could have been cut after a loss, a clause common in UFC contracts.

Most of the rest of the points are consistent with the Carmichael Dave report. Fedor was offered an immediate title shot with Brock Lesnar, with M-1 Global receiving a cut of the Lesnar - Fedor PPV (which would likely be the biggest PPV in MMA history) on top of Fedor's salary. With the sliding percentage he was presented on top of the $2 million guarantee, if that show did 800,000 buys (which would be a huge disappointment), Fedor would come out with a $3 million payday. However, if the show did a more realistic number like 1.5 million buys (which is a little less than what UFC 100 drew), he'd pocket more than $5 million, the biggest one-night payoff in the history of the sport, in addition to M-1 Global's take.

Fedor would also be able to don the M-1 Global logo on any of his attire and on his banners, and would be allowed to compete in combat sambo, a point of contention in their negotiations in 2007.

As reported before, the deal was turned down - like in 2007 - because M-1 Global wanted to be 50% co-promoters of and show headlined by Fedor, which means getting 50% of the profits after Fedor's cut. The negotiations ended shortly after M-1 Global refused to budge on that point.

"We will work only on co-promotion conditions," stated Vadim Finkelchtein, president of M-1 Global, after the meeting with White and Fertitta. "I don't understand the policy of the UFC. The UFC won't be able to control the whole world. The market is so big. . . The UFC proposal doesn't give us a chance for us to do what we want to do."

Fedor ended up signing with Strikeforce for an undisclosed salary, believed to be $1 million per fight. The deal is similar to his deal with Affliction in several ways. The deal with Strikeforce gives M-1 Global the rights to market the shows outside of North America, where the shows will be pushed as an M-1 Global event. In North America, the three shows headlined by Fedor will be billed as a joint promotion of M-1 Global and Strikeforce. This is similar to their deal with Affliction, where M-1 had the overseas rights for the Affliction shows and sold them to different sports stations as M-1 Global events, as opposed to Affliction.

"I am very happy and excited about the upcoming collaboration with Strikeforce," Finkelchtein stated after the Strikeforce deal was announced. "We are very pleased that we found a reliable partner and I feel that Strikeforce and M-1 can support each other on many things. This will create big opportunities for both parties to test their fighters against worthy opponents."

One interesting point, and this is likely the case for the Strikeforce deal, is that even though M-1 Global co-promoted the Affliction shows and were entitled to 50% of the profits from the shows headlined by Fedor, they did not fund 50% of the losses from those shows which eventually put Affliction out of business.

Affliction had pay-per-view revenue and still lost millions per show. Strikeforce generally does OK for their shows, with some shows losing a little while others generate a small profit. Up until Fedor's signing, their highest salaried fighter had been Frank Shamrock, who took home $369,790 for his fight with Nick Diaz last April. Meanwhile, the entire payroll for this past Sunday's Carano vs. Cyborg event, the biggest in company history, was only $468,500, which is less than half of what Fedor's take would likely be.

http://www.fightline.com/news/mma/2009/0818/437590/fedor_emelianenko/index.shtml

Steelergar

08-20-2009, 09:46 PM

Whats everybody's take on Carwin/Lesnar? Just saw it posted on Google News for 106.

I guess it might be fun to watch, but it will most likely be a boring fight. Two wrestlers with sub par striking skills is a bad matchup. I also think its funny how UFC fans say Fedor is ducking competition (eventhough his last 2 opponents and would be 3rd were ranked #2 the world). But this is the best the UFC can come up with for a title fight. Its almost as bad as the nobodies Anderson Silva has been fighting the last few years (except hendo).

Jdbwolverines

08-20-2009, 11:21 PM

Whatever happened to the Cain Velazquez v. Shane Carwin fight scheduled for UFC 104? I would much rather see them fight to establish (at least somewhat) who the legit #1 contender is rather than just keep throwing guys at Brock. I guess this way though Dana can just get 2 Championships fights for Lesnar quickly rather than having any sort of order in the heavyweight division.

yachties23

08-21-2009, 04:39 AM

I guess it might be fun to watch, but it will most likely be a boring fight. Two wrestlers with sub par striking skills is a bad matchup. I also think its funny how UFC fans say Fedor is ducking competition (eventhough his last 2 opponents and would be 3rd were ranked #2 the world). But this is the best the UFC can come up with for a title fight. Its almost as bad as the nobodies Anderson Silva has been fighting the last few years (except hendo).

Lesnar may be the better wrestler, but we have yet to see Carwin actually have to use his wrestling. (although Gonzaga did take him down)

The thing is they may both be subpar strikers, but Carwin has lethal KO power, something I'm sure Lesnar has, but Brock has yet to knock somebody out from his feet. His victories have all come via GnP, while Carwin has just demolished people including his KO of Gonzaga with a punch that was the equivalent of a jab. I doubt Brock will keep this on the feel tho, but if Carwin can, I think he has a serious shot to KO Lesnar.

ActionAndy

08-21-2009, 05:55 AM

Lesnar may be the better wrestler, but we have yet to see Carwin actually have to use his wrestling. (although Gonzaga did take him down)

The thing is they may both be subpar strikers, but Carwin has lethal KO power, something I'm sure Lesnar has, but Brock has yet to knock somebody out from his feet. His victories have all come via GnP, while Carwin has just demolished people including his KO of Gonzaga with a punch that was the equivalent of a jab. I doubt Brock will keep this on the feel tho, but if Carwin can, I think he has a serious shot to KO Lesnar.

And it would make my heart sing like a bluebird.

Ken

08-21-2009, 09:23 AM

“It would be in October or November. The location is to be determined. We have two more big show [this year] and one of them will be Fedor. We’re not interested in Ricco Rodriguez, that was a Ken Pavia rumor. Brett Rogers is obviously one of the candidates, Alistair Overeem, (Sergei) Kharitonov, maybe Paul Buentello. I think those four would be the top guys to choose from. I say let’s put him on TV a couple of times and then let him fight in the big fight.” Scott Coker

If they put Fedor on TV a couple of times and they have Buentello & Overeem as possible match ups, who they hell do they have as the big fight down the road?

Hopefully Rogers gets a good fight sooner than later.

ActionAndy

08-21-2009, 09:58 AM

If they put Fedor on TV a couple of times and they have Buentello & Overeem as possible match ups, who they hell do they have as the big fight down the road?
Hopefully Rogers gets a good fight sooner than later.

They've cloned a saber tooth tiger.

NCRadioMan

08-21-2009, 03:05 PM

More news bits:

Velasquez/Rothwell at 104 Official

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15923/cain-velasquez-vs-ben-rothwell-set-for-heavyweight-contest-at-ufc-104-in-los-angeles.mma

With original opponent Shane Carwin receiving a recent upgrade to title-bout status, heavyweight prospect Cain Velasquez (6-0 MMA, 4-0 UFC) will now face Ben Rothwell (30-6 MMA, 0-0 UFC) at UFC 104.

AOL FanHouse was the first to report the new bout, and MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) has been able to confirm the switch with sources close to the contest.

Featuring a light heavyweight title fight between current champion Lyoto Machida and challenger Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, UFC 104 takes place Oct. 24 in Los Angeles.

The undefeated Velasquez has earned four-straight wins in the UFC, including an impressive performance in June in a one-sided unanimous-decision win over Cheick Kongo. The UFC 99 bout was the first time the American Kickboxing trained fighter has been forced to a decision, having earned his previous five wins by TKO.

An eight-year veteran of the sport, Rothwell was slated to fight Chase Gormley at the recently canceled "Affliction: Trilogy" event. The 27-year-old has won 14 of his past 15 bouts, including two wins over UFC light heavyweight Krzysztof Soszynski, as well as wins over notables Ricco Rodriguez, Travis Fulton and Roy Nelson.

Velasquez was originally expected to met Carwin in the evening's co-main event. That fight was scratched in favor of Carwin taking on heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar at UFC 106 in November.

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Penn vs Sanchez to headline UFC 105 free on Spike TV

http://insidefights.com/2009/08/21/source-penn-vs-sanchez-to-headline-ufc-105/

A source within the UFC has confirmed to Inside Fights that BJ Penn will likely defend his lightweight title against Diego Sanchez in the main event of UFC 105.

Penn has claimed that he would never fight in the United Kingdom again after earning what he thought was an unacceptable purse for his fight against Joe Stevenson. The internal belief is that the free television show will likely pull in millions of viewers, and that kind of viewer base can help turn Penn and Sanchez into even bigger stars, which will translate into bigger pay per view buyrates for both fighters down the road.

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This sucks!

DirecTV to Drop Versus (WEC)

This story has flown under the radar (except on hockey blogs), but yes, Versus and DirecTV are having a spat. The existing deal between DirecTV and Versus expires after August 31st and the parties are presently unable to reach an agreement on financial terms to continue the partnership:

Versus, formerly Outdoor Life Network, was rebranded in 2006 and is the home of the National Hockey League as well as collegiate sports from the Pac-10, Big 12, Mountain West and Ivy League conferences, the Tour de France bicycle race, Davis Cup Tennis, the Professional Bull Riders (PBR), World Extreme Cage fighting (WEC), the Indy Racing League and Professional Boxing.

The network is available in about 75 million homes and is wholly-owned by Comcast. It is unclear how many subscribers the network has on DirecTV, which has about 24.2 million subscribers overall.

In a statement, DirecTV said that the dispute centers on carriage fees. According to SNL Kagan, Versus was getting about 18 cents per subscriber per month in carriage fees from cable operators in 2009.

"In our contract discussions, Comcast has demanded a deal for Versus that is not comparable to other providers and is pushing for a significant rate hike that does not reflect current market terms or the value of its programming," DirecTV said in a prepared statement. "We will continue to try and negotiate a fair deal, but we intend to hold the line on our programming costs and protect our customers against these unfair demands that are both discriminatory and wholly unrealistic given current market rates. If we do not reach an agreement, the network will come down on Sept. 1 following the expiration of our contract with Versus."

DirecTV has a different take: continue here http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/21/997459/directv-to-drop-versus-wec

Steelergar

08-21-2009, 11:22 PM

Comicast

BORIStheBLADE

08-22-2009, 09:39 AM

Seriously.... who makes these? Too funny.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/230216/bjraw1.gif

ActionAndy

08-22-2009, 07:51 PM

Seriously.... who makes these? Too funny.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/230216/bjraw1.gif

What movie is the original clip from? it's on the tip of my tongue.

BORIStheBLADE

08-22-2009, 09:11 PM

I have no idea, The tape deck in the car is classic though. haha.

NCRadioMan

08-22-2009, 09:17 PM

Isn't is from a Stephen Segal movie?

Steelergar

08-22-2009, 10:09 PM

Its Raw Deal starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think the only Arnold movie not released on DVD. A friend of mine lent me a burnt copy from the web a couple weeks ago. It was the first time I watched it and I've watched it 2 more times since than I like it so much . It has the bad guys from Scarface and The Living Daylights in it also and some funny one liners. They don't make them like this anymore.

yachties23

08-23-2009, 07:06 AM

In lieu of watching Bisping/Leben replay last night I just had to post this; hope some of you haven't seen it yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyu6qCnSfw

Steelergar

08-23-2009, 11:22 AM

thats pretty funny, I need to watch the ultimate fighter 9, still haven't seen it.

NCRadioMan

08-23-2009, 11:27 AM

Bisping vs Kang, Hardy vs. Kim UFC 105

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15932/reports-michael-bisping-vs-denis-kang-dan-hardy-vs-dong-hyun-kim-in-works-for-ufc-105.mma
Reports: Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang, Dan Hardy vs. Dong Hyun Kim in works for UFC 105

The UFC's fall schedule is rapidly filling, and with UFC 103 and 104's fight cards nearly complete, the organization has turned its attention to UFC 105 in November.

And according to a pair of new reports from Fighters Only magazine, two high-profile fights for the card are nearly signed.

According to Fighters Only, Michael Bisping (17-2 MMA, 7-2 UFC) will likely meet Denis Kang (32-11-1 MMA, 1-1 UFC), while Dan Hardy (22-6 MMA, 3-0 UFC) and Dong Hyun Kim (12-0-1 MMA, 3-0 UFC) are in discussions to meet at the Spike TV-broadcast event in Manchester, England.

Bisping was originally expected to face Wanderlei Silva, though a recent surgery has left the "Axe Murderer" on the shelf for the immediate future. With the Brazilian unable to face "The Count," Bisping will reportedly now meet Kang.

Bisping will be returning to action for the first time since a devastating loss to Dan Henderson at UFC 100, while Kang will be looking to build on the momentum of an April win over Xavier Foupa-Pokam.

While the now-scrapped Bisping vs. Silva bout was expected to enjoy main event status, the Fighters Only report suggests the new Bisping vs. Kang match will be relegated to co-main event status in favor of a yet-to-be-named "high-profile" matchup.

In addition to the Bisping vs. Kang bout, previously announced UFC 105 participant Dan Hardy will also meet Dong Hyun Kim according to a second report from Fighters Only.

Hardy fought most recently in a June split-decision win over Marcus Davis, upping his record in the UFC to 3-0. Kim returns to action for the first time since a UFC 100 win over T.J. Grant. Kim still maintains an undefeated record after his January loss to Karo Parisyan was overturned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission due to a failed drug screen by "The Heat."

With the expected matchups to the UFC 105 card live on Spike TV, the event now includes:

* BJ Penn vs Diego Sanchez *
* Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang*
* Dan Hardy vs. Dong Hyun Kim*
* Matt Brown vs. James Wilks*
* Ross Pearson vs. Aaron Riley*
* DaMarques Johnson vs. Peter Sobotta*
* Roli Delgado vs. Andre Winner*

dogface_313

08-23-2009, 12:08 PM

Haven't looked through all the pages, so if somebody has brought this up I apologize. If you are looking for a great fighter to support than look no further than Tim Kennedy. Tim is a Staff SGT in the U.S. Army Special Forces, and has been deployed multiple times in support of OIF and OEF. Currently he is fighting in StrikeForce. He was scheduled to fight Cyborg until Cyborg hurt himself. His next fight is 25SEP against Zak Cummings.

NCRadioMan

08-23-2009, 12:34 PM

GoatLocker

08-23-2009, 01:17 PM

Bisping vs Kang, Hardy vs. Kim UFC 105

* BJ Penn vs Diego Sanchez *
* Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang*

Pretty weak card, but look forward to BJ vs Diego. Kang is nothing more than a confidence builder for Bisping after the ass kicking he took from Hendo. I can only hope Kang pulls an upset, as Bisping is one of the biggest asses in the sport IMHO.

yachties23

08-23-2009, 01:43 PM

I still have no idea why people think Bisping is any good, and how Kang beating him would be that much of an upset. He is a good fighter, but hes still at best a B level fighter. The fight being in England though should be motivation for Kang to try and finish him, we all know what happens in close fights involving Mike and the judges over there.

BJ/Diego should be great. I really want to see somebody push the pace with Penn. I was shocked at how he just basically handled Kenny, totally didn't expect it. Should be a great fight.

Steelergar

08-23-2009, 02:47 PM

I would think that Kang would be the favorite. Been going through TUF 9 today the more I hear Bisping talk the more I wanna watch Hendo KO him.

NCRadioMan

08-23-2009, 04:28 PM

Pretty weak card,

So your saying it's the typical UFC card. :r At least it's on Spike and you don't have to shell out the extra clams to see it.

KING MO VS MARK KERR HEADS FULL M-1 Breakthrough FIGHT CARD

M-1 Global on Sunday released the full fight card for its HDNet Fights Presents M-1 Global Breakthrough, which takes place at Memorial Hall in Kansas City on Friday.

Six televised bouts are scheduled to air during the HDNet telecast (10:00 p.m. ET), plus a special sparring exhibition between M-1 fighters Fedor Emelianenko and newly-crowned Strikeforce light heavyweight champion Gegard Mousasi, with a five-bout undercard assembled for the local crowd attending live.

The main card is anchored by the United States debut of former NCAA champion "King" Mo Lawal and former NCAA All-American Mark "The Smashing Machine" Kerr. The undercard will be headlined by 8-1 Spanish heavyweight sensation Rogent Lloret taking on the latest addition to the M-1 Global roster, Russian heavyweight Alexey Oleinik.

-Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal (4-0) vs. Mark Kerr (15-10)
-Special Sparring Exhibition: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Gegard Mousasi (interesting)
-Lucio Linhares (12-4) vs. Mikhail Zayats (8-3)
-Jessie Gibbs (8-2) vs. Rob Broughton (10-4-1)
-Karl Amoussou (10-2-1) vs. John Doyle (9-8)
-Lloyd Marshbanks (17-8) vs. Michael Kita (5-3)
-Daisuke Nakamura (19-10) vs. Ferrid Kheder (14-3)
-Rogent Lloret (7-1) vs. Alexey Oleinik (24-4)
-Eric Marriott (13-1) vs. Tim Bazer (9-6)
-Sean Wilson (18-9) vs. Josh Orocho (11-6)
-Rudy Bears (9-3) vs. Brendan Seguin (18-15-1)
-Andria Caplan (0-0) vs. Mollie Ahlers-Estes (1-0)

King Mo rawks! :banger So-so card but a great main event.

Keith Jardine speaks about Rashad, “Rampage” and Lyoto Machida

It has been said before that “The Dean of Mean” Keith Jardine is one of the mosot intelligent and analytical fighters in MMA. His team mate Rashad Evans is taking on one of his former foes, Quinton Jackson, but what does Jardine think of the fight?

In a recent interview, Jardine speaks about Rashad, “Rampage” and Machida, kicking off with an analysis of his own fight with Quinton “Rampage” Jackson.

“I exited wrong a lot. I'd throw my combinations, and I would exit with my hands in the wrong place, and he would recoil and come through with punches. It was just a real subtle thing, and it's something that I've worked on since.”

“I think that's a real good match-up for Rashad. I think Rashad might have a little bit too much speed for Quinton to deal with. I see that going really good for Rashad.”

Jardine then turned his attention to the absolute enigma that is Lyoto Machida.

“I don't want to give away too much, but you can't play into his strengths. You can't lunge forward. You just can't lunge on him. You've got to keep your balance and you've to keep your head about you, and you've got to be unorthodox yourself.”

Prior to his unfortunate loss to Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, Keith Jardine had took wins over Brandon Vera and former UFC light-heavyweight champ Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell.

http://mmabay.co.uk/jardine%20on%20rampage,%20machida%20and%20rashad.h tml

Speaking of Bisping/Hendo: :r

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/Wotan1105/hendohoff.gif

NCRadioMan

08-23-2009, 08:42 PM

Don Frye Breaks his silence about M1 withdrawl
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15946/don-frye-breaks-silence-on-m-1-breakthrough-withdrawal-blames-organization-for-change.mma

While the executives of M-1 Global are no strangers to controversy and criticism, the organization's upcoming "M-1 Global presents Breakthrough" took a hit when original headliner Don Frye backed out of his fight with Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal.

While M-1 Global CEO Joost Raimond immediately went on the offensive, issuing a press release that questioned Frye's motives for backing out, "The Predator" remained relatively silent on the subject.

That is, until now.

"I didn't drop out; I walked away," Frye recently told MMAjunkie.com Radio (http://www.mmajunkie.com/radio). "I didn't want to talk to anybody about this, but I'll talk to you fellas because you're my amigos.

"This is business that should be conducted between me and Joost, or Roost, whatever his name is. But he got on the internet and did a Dana White/Perez Hilton internet blog and started talking [expletive]."

Raimond's statements suggested Frye may have simply been looking for a way out of the fight with Lawal, and that he used the seemingly simple relocation of the Aug. 28 event from Los Angeles to Kansas City, Kan., as his ticket out of the event.

Frye insists that's not an accurate representation of what happened.

"Here's the deal: [The event] didn't just move from L.A.," Frye said. "It went from the Staples Center to the L.A. Convention Center. From the L.A. convention center to the Hilton in Las Vegas. From the Hilton in Las Vegas to an Indian casino on the Oklahoma-Texas border. From the Indian casino on the Oklahoma-Texas border to an Indian casino up in Tulsa, which is North Oklahoma. And from there up to Kansas City, Mo.

"So you know, after four or five times changing the venue, and then we asked [Raimond] 'Hey, what are you doing for advertising? Are you sending a photographer out to Don's house?' He says, 'No, we're just going to use stock photos off the Internet.'"

With a complete lack of faith in the promoter, Frye said he made the difficult decision to walk away.

"So they don't know where the hell they're going to have it," Frye said. "They're not putting any money into advertising. So at that point we said, 'You know what? You just ain't got your [expletive] together. We're walking away.'"

Frye said he would have been happy keeping quiet about the entire situation, but Raimond's release forced him to speak.

"That's something that's between me and Joost, but he had to go and get on the [expletive] Internet and pull this [expletive], so then it opened it up to the whole [expletive] world," Frye said. "That's his fault, not mine.

"The position of douchebag fight promoter, who thinks he's tough because he hangs out with fighters and insults fighters – that position's already taken. We don't need that, OK?"[/B]

After walking away from the M-1 Global event, Frye will instead face Dave "Pee Wee" Herman in the main event of "Shark Fights 6: Stars & Stripes" on Sept. 12 in Amarillo, Texas.

"Geez, Louise, this guy's 6-foot-4, 240 (pounds)," Frye said. "(He's) 14-1. Who signed me up for this son-of-a-*****?

"I may have to reach up and punch him in the kneecap."

LOL Frye is obviously talking about Dana White in bold. :r

NCRadioMan

08-24-2009, 11:12 AM

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu legend, Renzo Gracie reveals he could join UFC

http://mmabay.co.uk/Story%2002415.html

Original source: GracieMag.com

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu legend, Renzo Gracie has revealed he is in regular talks with UFC President, Dana White about joining the UFC, but only if the promotion can come up with the right kind of fight.

Speaking to Sensei Sportv, Gracie said:

“Dana White is my friend and we talk on the phone every now and again; whenever I have a suggestion for a fighter ready for the UFC we talk on the phone. We talk of my return and it may be that I fight in the Octagon, who knows. I haven’t any pretensions of becoming champion, but I’d like to face the champions. I’m going to keep fighting till I’m 50, for free is need be.”

Gracie also spoke of Demian Maia’s title hopes in the middleweight division, something he can’t wait to see fulfilled.

“He’s a golden boy, I can’t wait till Demian wears that belt on his waist.”

Maia gets a chance to take a massive step forward at UFC 102 this coming weekend when he battles Nate Marquardt inside the octagon. Only time will tell if we will see a Gracie join him on the UFC roster any time soon.

Steelergar

08-24-2009, 03:39 PM

I 'm getting excited for this weekend fight mainly because Demian Maia is on the card. He is my favorite fighter to watch and root for. I watch his fights with the same passion I do for Steelers games. When I first read about him a year ago all I had to do was look at his bio to see he was the real deal. Then I saw he had a undefeated record and after watching him fight I was still amazed. And he keeps getting better pulling out new tricks every fight. Its also fun seeing Wandy in his corner, I can't think of a better teamate to have in your corner. If he wins he deserves a shot against Anderson Silva.

yachties23

08-24-2009, 04:29 PM

I'm a big Maia fan as well, and have loved the shows hes put on in the UFC, and the awesome fighting spirit he exudes. I've always thought it would be a BJJ guy who could be Anderson, but I'm just not sure Maia is the guy. For one, if J-Mac was giving him fits on the ground, I'm sure Anderson will be able to hold his own, if the fight even gets to the ground.

Personally I'm thinking Nate is gonna be too much for Maia, and I find it hard rooting against either. I think both guys are amazing fighters, but I don't think either is beating Silva.

Steelergar

08-24-2009, 09:46 PM

J Mac giving Maia fits? J Mac has 17 submission victories out of 21 wins as well as 3 submission of the night awards. He nearly got triangled just over a minute into the fight. The bell saved him from getting choked out to end the round. He was mounted for most of the 2nd round while recieving punches and elbows. Then he was submitted in the 3rd. Nathan comes from the same gym as J Mac and I doubt his ground skills are much better. If Almieda could submit Nathan I would think Maia would be able too also. Also if Maia can't sub Silva theirs not too many left in world that could. You could easily say Maia is the best bjj guy in UFC since Royce Gracie. And I think Maia is even better than Royce was just because the game has elevated since then. But it is a fight and anything can happen which makes it fun to watch.

NCRadioMan

08-24-2009, 11:06 PM

Word is that the UFC is trying to sign Pat Miletich. I think they only reason they want to sign him is so Strickforce can't. Otherwise, there is no reason for them to do it, imo.

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Wandy's New Face

http://www.fightlinker.com/wanderlei-silvas-new-face.mma

The hot pointless rumor going around for the past few days was that Michael Bisping vs Wanderlei Silva (a rumor of a fight itself) was off because Wanderlei was getting his face fixed up by a plastic surgeon. I think we can all agree that Wand’s face generally looks like a balloon does four days after it was inflated, but I wasn’t aware that plastic surgeons were able to fix the mushy / puffy look. It’s a good thing his last fight earned him 60k Fight of the Night honors, because going in and saying “Fix it all” sounds expensive.

http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/wandface.jpg
http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/wandface2.jpg

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PARISYAN VS HAZELETT @ UFC 106

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9444&zoneid=13

A welterweight bout pitting returning fighters Karo Parisyan and Dustin Hazelett against each other has been verbally agreed to for UFC 106 on Nov. 21 in Las Vegas. Sources close to the bout confirmed the agreement to MMAWeekly.com on Monday.

Parisyan (18-5) hasnt fought since UFC 94 in January. He defeated Dong Hyun Kim on the card, but later had the victory changed to a no contest by the Nevada State Athletic Commission when he tested positive for three banned painkilling substances. He was suspended for nine months and fined $32,000.

Hazelett (12-4) last fought in November of 2008, when he defeated Tamdan McCrory by submission. He suffered a torn ACL while training for an anticipated bout with Ben Saunders at UFC 96. He had surgery to repair the injury, and has been sidelined, rehabbing, ever since.

The two will be part of the undercard in support of a recently revealed title fight between UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar and challenger Shane Carwin. Tito Ortiz will make his UFC return on the same card, facing former UFC champion Mark Coleman in a light heavyweight bout at Mandalay Bay.

RRocket

08-24-2009, 11:51 PM

Mark Coleman, Don Frye....sigh.....they need to set up an "Old Timers" fight league. Does anyone even care about these has-beens anymore?

Steelergar

08-25-2009, 12:06 AM

I don't know if this was already posted but DREAM officials say they have a big suprise for DREAM 12. Rumors are they might be using a Strikeforce style cage. Paulo Filho, Alistair Overeem, Sakuraba, Murilo Rua and Eddie Alvarez are rumored on the card but nothing official yet.

yachties23

08-25-2009, 03:58 AM

Steelergar

08-25-2009, 08:47 AM

I know Jmac has good Jits, but Maia is a world champion. I know he was in trouble most of the fight but IIR he escaped full mount and actually took Damien's back at one point.

Only after Maia's triangle attempt and it lasted under 12 seconds until Maia reversed it. and he only escaped full mount when Maia attempted a armbar with 30 seconds left in the round. Any advance in position J mac got was given to him then quickly reversed.

yachties23

08-25-2009, 05:20 PM

Only after Maia's triangle attempt and it lasted under 12 seconds until Maia reversed it. and he only escaped full mount when Maia attempted a armbar with 30 seconds left in the round. Any advance in position J mac got was given to him then quickly reversed.

You're right, I just went back and watched it. For some reason I guess I was shocked how well JMac was holding up, I thought he was going to get subbed easy in the first round.

Either way I still can't see Maia beating Silva. His standup is still way too poor to compete with the likes of Anderson, it is going to take a real special fighter to beat Silva, I think we all know that already though.

NCRadioMan

08-26-2009, 02:27 AM

UFC 104 ON OCTOBER 24 IN L.A. ANNOUNCED

The Ultimate Fighting Championship on Monday officially announced the return of the promotion to California. UFC 104, featuring a main event pitting light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida against challenger Mauricio Shogun Rua, will take place on Oct. 24 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

Cain Velasquez and the newly acquired Ben Rothwell will also square off in a heavyweight battle at UFC 104.

Its been two years since the UFC was in Southern California and we knew we had to bring something special for our return to the capital of mixed martial arts, said UFC president Dana White.

BengalMan

08-27-2009, 08:46 AM

Fedor vs. Brett Rogers Announced:
http://mmamania.com/2009/08/26/fedor-emelianenko-vs-brett-rogers-strikeforce-fight-announced/

Strikeforce announced today at an open media workout in New York City that its prized free agent acquisition, Fedor Emelianenko (30-1), will make his promotional debut against undefeated hard-hitting heavyweight prospect, Brett Rogers (10-0).

No confirmed date or location is available at this time; however, the showdown is likely to happen on a Showtime-produced card sometime in November.

Emelianenko — a former Pride FC Heavyweight Champion and Affliction MMA headliner — recently signed a multi-fight contract with the San Jose-based mixed martial arts promotion under a special co-promotion agreement with M-1 Global.

“The Last Emperor” was in cruise control under the Affliction MMA banner after back-to-back wins over former UFC heavyweight champions Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski.

He was in line for a WAMMA title defense against Josh Barnett at the Aug. 1 “Trilogy” event until “The Babyface Assassin” got popped for steroids in a random pre-fight drug test.

The cash-strapped promotion closed up shop shortly thereafter, leaving Emelianenko (once again) the hottest free agent in mixed martial arts. After a hot and heavy pursuit from the UFC, Emelianenko opted to sign with Strikeforce primarily because of the co-promotion caveat.

Rogers is coming off a devastating knockout win over former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski at the “Lawler vs. Shields” event from the Scottrade Center in St. Louis, Mo., on June 6.

Rogers was a +300 underdog heading into the fight but needed just 0:22 seconds to put “The Pitbull” to sleep — the second time for Arlovski in as many fights.

“The Grimm,” now 10-0, looks poised to capitalize on his new found stature. “This sport is all about timing,” he said. “This fight took me to the next level and now is definitely my time. Everyone saw tonight that I am not one to play with.”

We’ll find out soon enough as he now prepares to take on arguably the top mixed martial arts fighter on the planet.

Steelergar

08-27-2009, 10:17 PM

I tuned into the Scotty Farrell show on Sirus radio tonight and was treated to hear Fedor, Mousasi, and Rodgers being interviewed. Scotty asked Fedor all types of questions and Fedor gave his usual diplomatic response. One caller asked Mousasi about fighting Machida and Mousasi responded that it is a fight everybody wants to see and that he has better stand up skills than Machida but nobody gives him credit for that. Fedor also said that he has been training in a cage for the fight.
I'm expecting some good fights tomorrow night in the M1 event. While alot of the fighters don't have name reconition now they might after tomorrow.
On another note Quinton Rampage Jackson is going to play Mr T in the new A-Team movie.

BengalMan

08-28-2009, 07:33 AM

I love listening to Farrell. I don't travel as much at night anymore so don't get to hear him as much which is unfortunate because he has a GREAT show and has always been very pro-MMA on it.

NCRadioMan

08-28-2009, 09:47 AM

Yeah, didn't Ferrell do some backstage stuff with Affliction? I have listened to him since I first heard him on the old One-On-One Sports Network back in the early 90's

IS WEC ON THE COUNTDOWN TO EXTINCTION?
by Ken Pishna - MMAWeekly.com

Perhaps Dana White has grown a little gun shy over the years, with all the media miscues on possible TV deals The Ultimate Fighter had several before it finally came to fruition in January of 2005 but the UFC president has all but confirmed the promotions intention to fold World Extreme Cagefighting into the Ultimate Fighting Championship.

White and co.s decision appears to be more or less a timetable issue and negotiation between the sibling promotions television partners.

In a rather telling exchange at the pre-fight press conference for this weekends UFC 102 in Portland, Ore., White was asked about adding more weight classes to the UFC, to which he replied, If we do any more weight classes, its gonna be lower, adding lighter weight classes.

Asked what the chances of such additions actually were, he replied, very good, and indicated that a plausible timeframe for the additions was probably real soon.

When pressed as to whether that meant that WEC would basically fold into the UFC, White replied as a Cheshire grin spread across his face, It doesnt really mean that, but...

It really means that.

The official company line, according to White: What that means is Ive gotta figure some (expletive) out.

In a recent article on Yahoo! Sports, Kevin Iole suggested the UFCs decision to keep the WEC a separate entity from the UFC fundamentally depriving fighters such as Miguel Torres of the biggest stage in the sport was one of the most grievous mistakes that White and company CEO Lorenzo Fertitta have made in their eight-and-a-half year tenure.

Sitting on the podium in front of a handful of reporters, including Iole, White said, I dont disagree with (the) article.

He added later, Even with all the things that we know how to do and the deal with have with Versus, which is a great deal, its still hard to make money and pay the guys what they deserve to get paid, or what they think they deserve to get paid and to run the business and make it a profitable business.

So whats holding him back? The complexities of TV land.

The WEC recently extended its television contract with the Versus network. The UFC, meanwhile, is under an exclusive basic cable contract with the competing Spike TV network. Add to that a potential network TV deal in the works for the UFC, which White has hinted at for months, and three entities are competing for Zuffas attention. Ironing out those wrinkles appears to be the likely culprit in keeping the WEC in its current bubble.

Its an obvious challenge, but White says its not insurmountable.

Ive got some (expletive) I gotta figure out, he stated in true Dana White fashion, But like I said earlier, weve had bigger problems. I will figure this out.

Ken

08-28-2009, 12:29 PM

Randy Couture Vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - I'll take Couture
Keith Jardine Vs. Thiago Silva - Slug fest; Jardine by herky-jerky
Chris Leben Vs. Jake Rosholt - Why is this on here
Nate Marquardt Vs. Demian Maia - Margquardt by well roundedness
Brandon Vera Vs. Krzysztof Soszynski - Should be a very good fight; probably the 2nd best of the night.
UC: Gabriel Gonzaga Vs. Chris Tuchscherer - I'll take Brock's training partner.

NCRadioMan

08-28-2009, 01:18 PM

BengalMan

08-28-2009, 02:55 PM

Dana White: WEC isn't going away, merger with UFC is unlikely
http://mmamania.com/2009/08/28/dana-white-wec-isnt-going-away-merger-with-ufc-unlikely/#more-14815

Despite recent reports to the contrary, World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) isn’t “going away” anytime soon.

UFC President Dana White reiterated the statement yesterday at the pre-fight press conference for UFC 102: “Couture vs. Nogueira,” saying that plans were not in place to merge the Zuffa-owned property and its roster of fighters into the UFC fold. In addition, there are plans afoot to possibly add lighter weight classes to the UFC — an area that is the primary focus of the WEC.

While the idea seems fun in the eyes of most MMA fans, there are many parts of the business side of the sport that would prevent such a thing from happening … mainly the television deals.

UFC currently has an exclusive deal with Spike TV while the WEC is partnered up with the Versus network. It would be very unlikely a deal could be struck involving both networks that wouldn’t leave one or both in a less profitable situation than they’re in now.

For that reason, among others, White says the two promotions are going to remain separate for now, according to a Sherdog.com report.

But that doesn’t mean there aren’t changes on the horizon for the WEC.

The organization has long talked about adding a flyweight division (125 pounds) to its roster, and apparently that idea will come to fruition very soon, which is good news for a promotion starving for more marketable talent.

It’s also no secret that the WEC fighters pull in far less money on average than that of a UFC fighter. While that has a lot to do with pay-per-view (PPV) revenue, it also has something to do with the marketability of the organization as a whole.

Put simply, the WEC name just doesn’t carry the same weight as the UFC.

Here’s what White had to say about that:

“Even with all the things that we know how to do and the deal that we have with Versus — which is a great deal — it’s still hard to make money and to pay the guys what they deserve to be paid, or what they think they deserve to be paid, and to run the business and make it a profitable business. There is always going to be huge discrepancy in the pay between WEC and UFC.”

For that reason, regardless of what happens right now, the merger could still continue to remain a future possibility.

If an influx of more talent or adding another division can’t inject some life into the organization, then Zuffa might potentially have to look at it like its not marketing and pulling in money off of stars like Mike Brown, Brian Bowles, Urijah Faber, Miguel Torres, Jose Also, Donald Cerrone, and others like they could be doing if those fighters were competing in the Octagon instead.

So the WEC will remain the WEC and the UFC will remain the UFC … for now.