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Old 06-12-2012, 08:23 AM   #1
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Default Fathers Day ~ 1st time Smoking

Was cleaning out the garage a while ago and stumbled upon my grandfathers smoker and figured in memory of him and that I want to make some good food hopefully, that I would attempt my 1st smoking on fathers day.. pork shoulder.



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the thermometer is broken, where can I find a replacement for it?
from what I've found "The Brinkmann Sportsman charcoal smoker uses smoke, heat and steaming liquid to slow-cook foods." can anyone give me any good tips or hell I haven't found a recipe to try yet and Sundays right around the corner, and does http://www.ehow.com/how_4780568_smok...an-smoker.html seem like a pretty good guide line to go by?
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1. Get pork butt, not shoulder. It is way better meat. It is also a good bit smaller and easier to cook.
2. Get a new thermo just about anywhere- wally world, target, grocery store. when you get it, test it in boiling water. it should read 212. If it does not, you know how much to compensate for
3. Cook at about 225/230*. This will get it done at about 90 mins per pound
4. Pull when internal temp hits 195. Wrap in foil, then in a couple towels and then in a cooler to rest for an hour or so (or longer if necessary.
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Sounds like a good way to spend Sunday morning. Be sure to factor in ~30-45min for the charcoal to burn down to coals and to get the pit to smoking temperature before adding the meat.

I have found that Academy is a good one stop shop for your BBQ needs (lump charcoal, wood for smoking, thermometers, tools, etc).

I have never done a pork butt, but I am tossing the idea around of hosting lunch on Sunday with family.

Good luck with the cooking.
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Good find with the smoker...got the father mojo hopefully still lurking in it...please post pics of your adventures!
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Let us know how it goes
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That was my first smoker, and I still have and use it periodically.

Here are some mods that will make cooking with a ECB a little easier.

If you drill holes in the fire pan, make sure that you have a metal pan under the smoker and DO NOT fire that thing up on a wood (or anything combustible) deck. The early ECBs had vent holes in the firepan until someone burned down their house and sued.

I do not use liquid in the water pan personally. I prefer the "bark" that my rub gives and steam from the liquid is not real condusive to that. The objective is to provide a "thermal barrier" between the heat source and the food so that you are cooking with an indirect heat as opposed to a direct heat source. Instead, I use playground sand in the water pan. Works well, you can sift out any grease dripping, and it's easy to clean up afterwards.

BTW, I use a probe thermometer with a wireless reciever. Not only can I move to whatever smoker I am using, but with the wireless reciever, I can be anywhere I wnat and still know my temps. Some of the best ~$30 I spent.

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That's the key, without pictures, we simply won't believe you....

And while we are at it, I have to ask what might be a stupid question,
not unlike Monty Python....Chip said to test your thermo by dipping it
in boiling water, which boils at 212....but does not water also boil at 250?
325?? 400?? How can you test a thermo that way? Is it a ROLLING boil,
or the first bubbles that denote 212?

btw the reference was "Can you not also build a bridge out of STONE??"
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That was my first smoker, and I still have and use it periodically.

Here are some mods that will make cooking with a ECB a little easier.

If you drill holes in the fire pan, make sure that you have a metal pan under the smoker and DO NOT fire that thing up on a wood (or anything combustible) deck. The early ECBs had vent holes in the firepan until someone burned down their house and sued.

I do not use liquid in the water pan personally. I prefer the "bark" that my rub gives and steam from the liquid is not real condusive to that. The objective is to provide a "thermal barrier" between the heat source and the food so that you are cooking with an indirect heat as opposed to a direct heat source. Instead, I use playground sand in the water pan. Works well, you can sift out any grease dripping, and it's easy to clean up afterwards.

BTW, I use a probe thermometer with a wireless reciever. Not only can I move to whatever smoker I am using, but with the wireless reciever, I can be anywhere I wnat and still know my temps. Some of the best ~$30 I spent.

Just my worth, your millage may vary!

Oh, and the most important part...post up pictures!
Awesome thanks for the tips, I am gonna def do a few of these mods at least, is there a nice simple rub to help produce a good bark?
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That's the key, without pictures, we simply won't believe you....

And while we are at it, I have to ask what might be a stupid question,
not unlike Monty Python....Chip said to test your thermo by dipping it
in boiling water, which boils at 212....but does not water also boil at 250?
325?? 400?? How can you test a thermo that way? Is it a ROLLING boil,
or the first bubbles that denote 212?

btw the reference was "Can you not also build a bridge out of STONE??"
The hottest that plain water can get at atmospheric pressure is 212, the bubbles you see are because once water hits 212 the heat energy that is being put into the water is no longer raising the temperature, it is vaporizing the water at the bottom of the pan and makes the boiling water look like it's rolling. Pressure cookers work by increasing the temperature that water vaporizes thus increasing the temperature at which the water boils, so you can essentially boil things at hotter than 212.
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The hottest that plain water can get at atmospheric pressure is 212, the bubbles you see are because once water hits 212 the heat energy that is being put into the water is no longer raising the temperature, it is vaporizing the water at the bottom of the pan and makes the boiling water look like it's rolling. Pressure cookers work by increasing the temperature that water vaporizes thus increasing the temperature at which the water boils, so you can essentially boil things at hotter than 212.
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Awesome thanks for the tips, I am gonna def do a few of these mods at least, is there a nice simple rub to help produce a good bark?
BTW, I am in no way associated with the website that I linked to, but I have made several mods that he illistrated. I have not tried any of his recipies.

As for a rub, look up Alton Brown's website. He did a pretty good show on BBQ a while back and he gave a nice beginners basic rub. Just remember, a recipe is only a guide, play with it to make it your own. There also several rubs availiable at various supermarkets and such. Bad Byrons Butt Rub is hard to beat for a commercial rub
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The hottest that plain water can get at atmospheric pressure is 212, the bubbles you see are because once water hits 212 the heat energy that is being put into the water is no longer raising the temperature, it is vaporizing the water at the bottom of the pan and makes the boiling water look like it's rolling. Pressure cookers work by increasing the temperature that water vaporizes thus increasing the temperature at which the water boils, so you can essentially boil things at hotter than 212.
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WHO SAYS kids don't like science anymore! Thanks for that info. I was not paying attention in school.
I actually learned thermodynamics and heat transfer in Navy Nuclear Power School, your country's tax dollars at work, training me to boil water.
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That was my first smoker, and I still have and use it periodically.

Here are some mods that will make cooking with a ECB a little easier.

If you drill holes in the fire pan, make sure that you have a metal pan under the smoker and DO NOT fire that thing up on a wood (or anything combustible) deck. The early ECBs had vent holes in the firepan until someone burned down their house and sued.

I do not use liquid in the water pan personally. I prefer the "bark" that my rub gives and steam from the liquid is not real condusive to that. The objective is to provide a "thermal barrier" between the heat source and the food so that you are cooking with an indirect heat as opposed to a direct heat source. Instead, I use playground sand in the water pan. Works well, you can sift out any grease dripping, and it's easy to clean up afterwards.

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Thanks Mike. I have a VERY loving and understanding wife who doesn't give me too much grief about all of my toys. And between fishing, BBQ'n, cigars and such, I have a few toys
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...is there a nice simple rub to help produce a good bark?
You can also do a search thru the recipies as well as the "What's in your Smoker" thread. As I recall there have been a few posted. I would rather give you a base to start out with and then have you add/subtract things that you like/don't like. Beware, it is a slippery slop like any other. We have been perfectiong our rubs and sauces for the last 15 or 20 years
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should I brine this or just do a rub before I smoke it, and how long would you say the coals will last before I should swap them out for fresh ones?
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Your call on brining...some do, I don't.

The longevity of coals are anyones guess. It depends a lot on the brand, the surrounding temperature and humidity, etc. I use natural lump charcoal personally, but I know Brent (one of the REAL bbq Guru atound here) uses brickets (Kingsford I think). Keep an eye on your temperature and add just a piece or two when the temperature starts to drop. Again, this takes a bit of practice. If you add too much or too soon, you can get into wild temperature swings. That's not the end of the world, but it make it a little rougher on yourself. Practice, practice practice, and when you think you have it down, practice some more . One of the pest things about BBQ'n to me is getting to eat my mistakes!

BTW, Lump burns hotter (so you don't need as much) but probably costs more and may be harder to find. I can get it at the big box hardware stores and supermarkets around here. I use lump to start my tow-behind stick burner.
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I found this rub and think I'm gonna try it out
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