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Old 08-25-2010, 04:24 PM   #1
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Default A Martini thread?

I have recently fallen bum over noggin for the Martini (I'm a brown liqueur guy - mostly scotch, some bourbon - and beer guy).

I found that really enjoy a dirty Vodka Martini.

I've been pouring a little bit (maybe a half jigger) of Martini & Rossi Martini Extra Dry into a chilled martini glass, spinning it around to coat the whole inside of the glass and then dumping it. I've been doing 3 Olives or Titos (the only other option in the house is Svedka) and a good bit of olive brine in a martini shaker then finishing it with a few Spanish olives. I also grabbed some blue cheese and have been stuffing the olives.

Here is the question for the serious Martini guys - is there an established ratio of Vodka (or gin) to olive brine? Should I be leaving the Vermouth in the glass? Is there a different Vermouth I should be using? Shaking vs. stirring? I'd love to hear some Martini tips.
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As for vermouth, the M&R X-Dry seems fine to me. What I do is pour it over the ice, then dump it out, so your glass-spinning method appears similiar, and suitable to my taste for a dry martini. As for olives, I feel that's all a matter of taste too. Me, I like two, but only the brine that soaks out of it. You do what pleases you. Blue cheese? Interesting. Not for me, but again, it's your drink.

Nota bene, at one other time somebody started a martini thread on here, and the "purists" avowed that the only drink which can be called a martini is made with gin. Hey, I'm with you, and prefer vodka, but be warned . . . you may catch flak.
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Personally, I'm an extra dry martini kind of guy. 2 or 3 olives, the Gin or Vodka goes straight from the freezer to the glass, and done.

For a regular Martini, you've got it right. I don't think a Martini should have more than the essence of vermouth. I like to shake the ice in a little vermouth, and then dump it before adding the gin/vodka to the shaker. IMO, theres no such thing as too much brine until you don't like it anymore. I usually add just a little splash if I feel like any more than whats already on the olives, but i've been to martini bars that add at least a jigger wort.

For the record, I don't believe in booze "bruising" and using a shaker is more fun.

Oh, also, I usually use jalapeno-stuffed olives... they're delicious!
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Ha. Yea, I imagine there will be some gin purists. Fair enough, I'm cool with calling it a Vodka-tini or whatever. If it's good enough for Bond it's good enough for me...
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MODS -- would you please change the title of this thread? It's about Vodka Martinis, not Martinis.....

Chill the glass. Put the vermouth in the shaker. Put the gin (or vodka) in the shaker and let it chill while you spear a couple, few olives from the jar that has been in the fridge. Put the olives in the martini glass. Shake the SH!T out of the contents of the shaker and pour into the glass. Very important part. Hold the full glass up to the setting sun to observe the ice crystals refracting the sun's rays and toast to another day. ENJOY.
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IMO, theres no such thing as too much brine until you don't like it anymore.
Excellent - you are talking to the guy that drinks pickle-backs regularly so there is really no such thing as too much brine for me!
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Excellent - you are talking to the guy that drinks pickle-backs regularly so there is really no such thing as too much brine for me!
I can't say that thread didn't come to mind when I was saying that...
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I have recently fallen bum over noggin for the Martini (I'm a brown liqueur guy - mostly scotch, some bourbon - and beer guy).

I found that really enjoy a dirty Vodka Martini.

I've been pouring a little bit (maybe a half jigger) of Martini & Rossi Martini Extra Dry into a chilled martini glass, spinning it around to coat the whole inside of the glass and then dumping it. I've been doing 3 Olives or Titos (the only other option in the house is Svedka) and a good bit of olive brine in a martini shaker then finishing it with a few Spanish olives. I also grabbed some blue cheese and have been stuffing the olives.

Here is the question for the serious Martini guys - is there an established ratio of Vodka (or gin) to olive brine? Should I be leaving the Vermouth in the glass? Is there a different Vermouth I should be using? Shaking vs. stirring? I'd love to hear some Martini tips.
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Chill the glass. Put the vermouth in the shaker. Put the gin (or vodka) in the shaker and let it chill while you spear a couple, few olives from the jar that has been in the fridge. Put the olives in the martini glass. Shake the SH!T out of the contents of the shaker and pour into the glass. Very important part. Hold the full glass up to the setting sun to observe the ice crystals refracting the sun's rays and toast to another day. ENJOY.
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Default Re: A Martini thread?

Thanks all. And Rick and Peter you are 100% right, it's all about taking a moment to reflect.

So I followed everyone's advice for Martini number 2. I put plenty of ice in the shaker and poured some Vermouth over it, then shook it a bit and dumped it into the chilled glass, swirled it then dumped it. I then poured the vodka and the brine into the shaker over the vermouth infused ice and shook the living bejesus out of it then poured it over the olives (this time I did provolone stuffed olives from DiBruno Brothers ). Wow. Wow. Wow.
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Thanks all. And Rick and Peter you are 100% right, it's all about taking a moment to reflect.

So I followed everyone's advice for Martini number 2. I put plenty of ice in the shaker and poured some Vermouth over it, then shook it a bit and dumped it into the chilled glass, swirled it then dumped it. I then poured the vodka and the brine into the shaker over the vermouth infused ice and shook the living bejesus out of it then poured it over the olives (this time I did provolone stuffed olives from DiBruno Brothers ). Wow. Wow. Wow.
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Here is the question for the serious Martini guys - is there an established ratio of Vodka (or gin) to olive brine?
Jeff, my favorite ratio is 100% - 0%.
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I usually take the Gin (Hendrinks usually) and the chilled cocktail glasses, add 1/2 a measure of Vermouth in each cocktail glass, swirl it around and toss it. Add Gin and a few blue cheese stuffed olives.

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I love a good martini. I prefer gin...vodka is one spirit I don't care for much at all... and find I like a 5 to 1 ratio of gin to vermouth. Prepared just as Rick described. Awesome.

Andrew, fool around with the ratios and see what you prefer. Some like 3 to 1, some 5 to 1, some 1 to 0, it's all personal preference. I like mine with olives, but too much olive flavor takes away from the martini for me.

The good thing with gin, relative to some of the brown spirits we both like , is it is a relatively affordable spirit. Even some of the best (my favorite is Hendricks) can be had for less than $40 (even less than $30 on line). Vodka? I have no idea. Cheers!
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I love me some Hendricks Gin dirty martinis, if not Hendricks, then the occasional Bombay Saphire. I usually add just a dash of vermouth, a dash of olive juice and a couple shots of gin. Let it sit on ice in the shaker for a few minutes then pour over 3 giant garlic stuffed olives.

Do yourself a favor and buy the Tasso Giant olives... I originally bought them at Costco and fell in love. Costco then only got the jalapeno stuffed olives so I tried many other brands at other stores. They didn't cut it so I bought directly from Tassos. I highly recommend them!

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I'm one of those purist that thinks it's only a Martini when it contains gin. However, I'm not a radical about it, to each his own!

I have Hendrick's but usually drink is straight, not as a martini, since it has a distinctive flavor that I don't associate with martinis (but, again, personal preference rules!!). I favor swirling the M & R in the glass, then tossing the excess. I prefer "dirty" martinis over clean, and enjoy a number of different olive garnishes, as the mood strikes.

And I wholeheartedly endorse the recommendation to hold the glass to the sun, make a toast, and enjoy!!!
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Alright, followed the same recipe as my second last night and I'm in business.

I'm not a huge gin fan. As a matter of fact I can barely palate it after an evening of way too many Tom Collins a few years ago. BUT I do have some gin in the bar for guests - Tanqueray. Is that a good gin for martinis (if I was feeling brave and wanted to give it a shot)?
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Alright, followed the same recipe as my second last night and I'm in business.

I'm not a huge gin fan. As a matter of fact I can barely palate it after an evening of way too many Tom Collins a few years ago. BUT I do have some gin in the bar for guests - Tanqueray. Is that a good gin for martinis (if I was feeling brave and wanted to give it a shot)?
Sure, give it a shot. You might leave the Vermouth in your shaker. Start with a small one...
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Alright, followed the same recipe as my second last night and I'm in business.

I'm not a huge gin fan. As a matter of fact I can barely palate it after an evening of way too many Tom Collins a few years ago. BUT I do have some gin in the bar for guests - Tanqueray. Is that a good gin for martinis (if I was feeling brave and wanted to give it a shot)?
Tanqueray is a decent enough gin for a martini.
Not my favorite but not crap.
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Leave the Vermouth at the store (IMHO) - use 1 part quality olive juice and 3 parts Grey Goose (and again IMHO) there is no suitable substitute for Grey Goose it is the very finest. Shake with crushed ice and strain into a cold glass adding a dagger with 3 large olives...... for a little "flare" use jalepeno stuffed olives! Wonderful!

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