What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing...

11-07-2009, 11:33 AM

On almost all mild cigars and some medium, I pick up a sickening flavor once I am about 2/3 through the stick. The cigar will taste fine up until this point. It was most prevalent in a RP Connecticut I had a few nights ago, but it's also been present in an El Mayor Emerald, Gurkha Symphony, and CAO Gold. I wouldn't describe it as bitterness, but it makes me nauseous. I've had cigars make me feel sick/light headed, but that was due to my inexperience and not the flavor of the cigar.

I might try smoking another mild cigar tonight so I can explain the flavor better.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Wyatt

htown · 11-07-2009, 11:39 AM

Do you purge?

md4958 · 11-07-2009, 11:40 AM

Yup, thats the nicotine. Try smoking slower, or eat something before you smoke.

If you feel nausea try spreading some sugar on your tongue... i know it sounds weird but it works. A sugary drink like cola will work too, but the sugar works faster for me.

Thanks goes out to Bao for introducing me to this method

edit: just re-read your original post, and I realize that the nausea you are feeling is from the flavor and not the nicotine. The bad flavor is from the tar build up in those cigars. Try purging as mentioned above, basically blow through the cigar when you get to that area. You should experience some refreshing of the flavor.

kelmac07 · 11-07-2009, 11:43 AM

I drink a Diet Pepsi and gets that flavor out.

Santesyu · 11-07-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

I drink a Diet Pepsi and gets that flavor out.

well I say drinking anything would help, but also smoke slower don't rush it..

borndead1 · 11-07-2009, 12:09 PM

As tobacco ferments, it releases ammonia. Tasting ammonia is quite common, especially in "fresh" cigars, or cigars with a lot of ligero tobacco in them, as ligero takes much longer to ferment than the viso and seco leaves of the tobacco plant.

Smoking too fast/drawing too hard can also make a cigar taste nasty.

A cigar that is too moist can also taste nasty. I shoot for 62-65% humidity in my humidors.

If I get a cigar that tastes nasty like that, I take the rest of them (5 pack, box, etc.) and let them sit for a few months in the humi. It usually does the trick.

11-07-2009, 12:05 PM

I did not know about purging. Thanks for the helpful advice. Now I'm very eager to go back and try these condemned sticks.

massphatness · 11-07-2009, 12:08 PM

It's beetle poo.

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CigarNut · 11-08-2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by massphatness

It's beetle poo.

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Thanks for that visual -- you are restricted to Swisher Sweets for 30 days!

Jbailey · 11-07-2009, 12:29 PM

My favorite drink at the shop when I smoked was Boylans creme soda.

I would also agree on the purging to help out.

11-07-2009, 12:35 PM

Purging and Dr. Pepper.

NCRadioMan · 11-07-2009, 01:05 PM

I get cardboard from alot of mild Connecticut wrapped cigars including the ones you mentioned. Makes me sick thinking about it, horrible flavor. Try a different wrapped cigar or if you go mild, go with a Casa Torano. Maybe Connies are not for you.

yourchoice · 11-07-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I get cardboard from alot of mild Connecticut wrapped cigars including the ones you mentioned.

I agree. Sounds like the evil cardboard flavor which truly is disgusting. Had a Gurkha Vintage once that was even worse...2 day old, oily cardboard pizza box (sans cheese).

ZenSilk · 11-07-2009, 02:11 PM

The connecticut wrappers lend my palate some truly odd flavors as well, but the "clean" sticks, as I call them - the connies with out the ammonia/cardboard/plastic flavor- are mighty tasty, like the oliva connecticut and these ybor city bundle cigars I was sent from an uncle in Florida. I love a good connie, but had a very hard time finding a good connie.

11-07-2009, 08:37 PM

Nicotine is what has made me feel that way in the past. Never smoke a full bodied smoke on an empty stomach. Last one that really made me sway was a Montecristo Platinum. Didn't have much to eat within 3-4 hours before lighting up. Made me sway a good bit, a good cigar though.

11-07-2009, 11:33 AM	#1
gnarly Guest Posts: n/a	What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... On almost all mild cigars and some medium, I pick up a sickening flavor once I am about 2/3 through the stick. The cigar will taste fine up until this point. It was most prevalent in a RP Connecticut I had a few nights ago, but it's also been present in an El Mayor Emerald, Gurkha Symphony, and CAO Gold. I wouldn't describe it as bitterness, but it makes me nauseous. I've had cigars make me feel sick/light headed, but that was due to my inexperience and not the flavor of the cigar. I might try smoking another mild cigar tonight so I can explain the flavor better. Any ideas? Thanks, Wyatt

11-07-2009, 11:39 AM	#2
htown Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Sugar Land Posts: 877 Trading: (29)	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... Do you purge?

11-07-2009, 11:40 AM	#3
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... Yup, thats the nicotine. Try smoking slower, or eat something before you smoke. If you feel nausea try spreading some sugar on your tongue... i know it sounds weird but it works. A sugary drink like cola will work too, but the sugar works faster for me. Thanks goes out to Bao for introducing me to this method edit: just re-read your original post, and I realize that the nausea you are feeling is from the flavor and not the nicotine. The bad flavor is from the tar build up in those cigars. Try purging as mentioned above, basically blow through the cigar when you get to that area. You should experience some refreshing of the flavor. __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

11-07-2009, 11:43 AM	#4
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... I drink a Diet Pepsi and gets that flavor out. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

11-07-2009, 12:09 PM	#6
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,331 Trading: (7)	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... As tobacco ferments, it releases ammonia. Tasting ammonia is quite common, especially in "fresh" cigars, or cigars with a lot of ligero tobacco in them, as ligero takes much longer to ferment than the viso and seco leaves of the tobacco plant. Smoking too fast/drawing too hard can also make a cigar taste nasty. A cigar that is too moist can also taste nasty. I shoot for 62-65% humidity in my humidors. If I get a cigar that tastes nasty like that, I take the rest of them (5 pack, box, etc.) and let them sit for a few months in the humi. It usually does the trick. __________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

11-07-2009, 12:05 PM	#7
gnarly Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... I did not know about purging. Thanks for the helpful advice. Now I'm very eager to go back and try these condemned sticks.

11-07-2009, 12:08 PM	#8
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,689 Trading: (206)	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... It's beetle poo. Posted via Mobile Device

11-07-2009, 12:29 PM	#10
Jbailey Brewcifer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Madison, WI Posts: 5,212 Trading: (17)	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... My favorite drink at the shop when I smoked was Boylans creme soda. I would also agree on the purging to help out. __________________ "Sent to spy on a Cuban talent show first stop- Havana au go-go." Field Marshall Douche Bag.

11-07-2009, 12:35 PM	#11
Uflbassin Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... Purging and Dr. Pepper.

11-07-2009, 01:05 PM	#12
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,276 Trading: (66)	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... I get cardboard from alot of mild Connecticut wrapped cigars including the ones you mentioned. Makes me sick thinking about it, horrible flavor. Try a different wrapped cigar or if you go mild, go with a Casa Torano. Maybe Connies are not for you. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

11-07-2009, 02:11 PM	#14
ZenSilk Still Watching My Back Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 106 Trading: (8)	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... The connecticut wrappers lend my palate some truly odd flavors as well, but the "clean" sticks, as I call them - the connies with out the ammonia/cardboard/plastic flavor- are mighty tasty, like the oliva connecticut and these ybor city bundle cigars I was sent from an uncle in Florida. I love a good connie, but had a very hard time finding a good connie.

11-07-2009, 08:37 PM	#15
Namerifrats Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What's this bad flavor I'm experiencing... Nicotine is what has made me feel that way in the past. Never smoke a full bodied smoke on an empty stomach. Last one that really made me sway was a Montecristo Platinum. Didn't have much to eat within 3-4 hours before lighting up. Made me sway a good bit, a good cigar though.