Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 - Page 100

BigFrank · 06-02-2009, 04:49 PM

Deadlifted bout an hour ago.
Pulled 545x5. As usual my lack of attention and conditioning has made me get super lazy at high reps. I think honestly I could have pulled that weight at least 8 to 9 times. But the 5th went up, I held it for a second, dropped it, then sat down.

Funny really, I've gotten stronger and lazier at the same time. Almost ironic. My hands also are sore.

Chris. · 06-02-2009, 07:17 PM

Isn't the deadlift just a power clean without pulling up onto your chest? that's A LOT of weight man!

PeteSB75 · 06-03-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris.

Isn't the deadlift just a power clean without pulling up onto your chest? that's A LOT of weight man!

The bottom half of the power clean is similar to the motion of a deadlift, but they are very different exercises. The speed and explosive nature of the power clean train for power, rather than pure strength, like the dead.

BigFrank · 06-03-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris.

Isn't the deadlift just a power clean without pulling up onto your chest? that's A LOT of weight man!

Deadlift
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html
Power Clean
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...fts/Clean.html

PeteSB75 · 06-03-2009, 11:40 AM

Frank, you using just a hook grip for that dead, over/under grip, or straps?

BigFrank · 06-03-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75

Frank, you using just a hook grip for that dead, over/under grip, or straps?

I use a hook grip until about 4 plates ~ 400 lbs. After that I start using over-under grip. Chalk, never straps for deadlifts. The only time I use straps is for certain back exercises, mainly pull ups and rows. I want to focus more on using my back more, and they help with that.
Depends on each person I guess. I have never had any issues with hand strength. Granted my hands aren't as strong as some others, I figure as long as I can hold the weight I am deadlifting that's enough for me. If it becomes an issue were my hands are failing before everything else, then I would address my grip strength. Until then its things as normal.

PeteSB75 · 06-04-2009, 06:33 AM

I think I will have to try some chalk. Running into some issues as I increase the weight, but my grip strength does seem to be improving along with my dead, though not quite keeping pace. I'm good at 225 or so, but have a tough time over 250. I started going to over/under at that point, but I really don't like it. My right grip is stronger than my left and combined with the over/under, it seems to throw me off a little.

The Professor · 06-04-2009, 06:59 AM

I want to just forget about today -- probably the worst leg day I've had in a year. Here's my tip: don't slip on dog drool before you go to the gym for leg work. It helps to not have a lot on your mind, too.

Oy.

The Professor · 06-04-2009, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75

I think I will have to try some chalk. Running into some issues as I increase the weight, but my grip strength does seem to be improving along with my dead, though not quite keeping pace. I'm good at 225 or so, but have a tough time over 250. I started going to over/under at that point, but I really don't like it. My right grip is stronger than my left and combined with the over/under, it seems to throw me off a little.

Chances are, your gym prohibits chalk because it makes a mess. If that's the case, you can buy "liquid chalk." It's not nearly as good; but it's better than nothing for adding a little stick to your grip.

PeteSB75 · 06-04-2009, 08:00 AM

I've seen guys using chalk there in the past. In any case, I never see more than 1 or 2 employees there when I am in at 5, so I'm fine.

Starscream · 06-04-2009, 11:02 AM

Post workout protein shake - Body Fortress Whey Protein.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10322405
Is this product sufficient?

The Professor · 06-04-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Post workout protein shake - Body Fortress Whey Protein.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10322405
Is this product sufficient?

I *think* that's made by Met-Rx. Honestly, though, I'd go for Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/whey.html

ADB is going to tell you the same thing. I recommend the Rocky Road flavor (ADB's favorite, too) because it tastes awesome.

That and a good multi (I use OptiMen, by Optimum Nutrition too) should help.

And drink LOTS of water.

Chris. · 06-04-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Post workout protein shake - Body Fortress Whey Protein.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10322405
Is this product sufficient?

I use this. Chocolate is the best flavor. Cookies and Cream is TERRIBLE. Haven't had the strawberry. It really depends on your goals. Some people use muscle milk because it helps you gain weight more. It has more sugar than body fortress does. It has a lot of protein in it and it's cheap. Big selling point to me.

Starscream · 06-04-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris.

I use this. Chocolate is the best flavor. Cookies and Cream is TERRIBLE. Haven't had the strawberry. It really depends on your goals. Some people use muscle milk because it helps you gain weight more. It has more sugar than body fortress does. It has a lot of protein in it and it's cheap. Big selling point to me.

Looking to lose fat, not gain weight. One scoop of Body Fortress stuff is light in calories but has 23g protein. Muscle Milk is has more sugar than I need.

Thanks for the info, Chris and Dokk.

Chris. · 06-04-2009, 01:20 PM

In my last sentence I was talking about Fortress. I see now that it looks like I'm talking about MM. I'm pretty sure MM isn't cheap. lol

BigFrank · 06-04-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75

I think I will have to try some chalk. Running into some issues as I increase the weight, but my grip strength does seem to be improving along with my dead, though not quite keeping pace. I'm good at 225 or so, but have a tough time over 250. I started going to over/under at that point, but I really don't like it. My right grip is stronger than my left and combined with the over/under, it seems to throw me off a little.

My gym actually prohibits chalk also. But I use it in front of the owner and she doesnt care. Trick is to not make a ****ing mess honestly.
Pm me your address I'll send ya a block or two. Its 10 bucks for a box of 12 so, I got some extras.

BigFrank · 06-04-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Post workout protein shake - Body Fortress Whey Protein.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10322405
Is this product sufficient?

bump dokks ON push. I like it also, rocky road is good. Right now I use a different brand, but very similar to ON's profile. If ya plan on using a lot, order online and get 5lbs or 10lbs.

Mugen910 · 06-04-2009, 02:07 PM

Hi...My name is Bao and I'm a lazy fuker!

BigFrank · 06-04-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugen910

Hi...My name is Bao and I'm a lazy fuker!

lolol
QQ Bao

off to the gym for random accessory craps. Might do some laying around with some sitting, then im going to super set with some stretching and water drinking. Then im going to finish with a post workout drink 24oz curl super setting with some mouth flapping.

imma set a PR.

Mugen910 · 06-04-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank

lolol
QQ Bao

off to the gym for random accessory craps. Might do some laying around with some sitting, then im going to super set with some stretching and water drinking. Then im going to finish with a post workout drink 24oz curl super setting with some mouth flapping.

imma set a PR.

I haven't been to the gym in weeks after the marathon...I need to get back into the swing of things.

06-02-2009, 04:49 PM	#1981
BigFrank 5 3 1 Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Frank Location: Gym or Sofa. Posts: 1,896 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Deadlifted bout an hour ago. Pulled 545x5. As usual my lack of attention and conditioning has made me get super lazy at high reps. I think honestly I could have pulled that weight at least 8 to 9 times. But the 5th went up, I held it for a second, dropped it, then sat down. Funny really, I've gotten stronger and lazier at the same time. Almost ironic. My hands also are sore. __________________ " Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. "

06-02-2009, 07:17 PM	#1982
Chris. PSHC! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,842 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Isn't the deadlift just a power clean without pulling up onto your chest? that's A LOT of weight man! __________________

06-03-2009, 11:40 AM	#1985
PeteSB75 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: CT Posts: 1,674 Trading: (18)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Frank, you using just a hook grip for that dead, over/under grip, or straps? __________________ Formerly Malik23

06-04-2009, 06:33 AM	#1987
PeteSB75 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: CT Posts: 1,674 Trading: (18)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 I think I will have to try some chalk. Running into some issues as I increase the weight, but my grip strength does seem to be improving along with my dead, though not quite keeping pace. I'm good at 225 or so, but have a tough time over 250. I started going to over/under at that point, but I really don't like it. My right grip is stronger than my left and combined with the over/under, it seems to throw me off a little. __________________ Formerly Malik23

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06-04-2009, 08:00 AM	#1990
PeteSB75 Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: CT Posts: 1,674 Trading: (18)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 I've seen guys using chalk there in the past. In any case, I never see more than 1 or 2 employees there when I am in at 5, so I'm fine. __________________ Formerly Malik23

06-04-2009, 11:02 AM	#1991
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Post workout protein shake - Body Fortress Whey Protein. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10322405 Is this product sufficient? __________________ Insert quote here.

06-04-2009, 01:20 PM	#1995
Chris. PSHC! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,842 Trading: (25)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 In my last sentence I was talking about Fortress. I see now that it looks like I'm talking about MM. I'm pretty sure MM isn't cheap. lol __________________

06-04-2009, 02:07 PM	#1998
Mugen910 I <3 Huy Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Location Location: First Name Posts: 8,387 Trading: (106)	Re: Pumping Iron with Zemekone and Icehog3 Hi...My name is Bao and I'm a lazy fuker! __________________ I'm not antisocial, I just think people are stupid.