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[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by pektel

if you just want to look at the main character, he does know his wine but user it as a crutch to deal with his midlife crisis instead of enjoyment of a well made product as most other characters in the movie do. It's a complete contradiction to what the wine hobby is all about. i don.t believe he is a wine connosieur, but an alcoholic who prefers to drink wine.
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Irony/Sarcasm/Self denial Point:

Mies most prized possession, a bottle of Cheval Blanc is not even made from Pinot Noir, its made in Bordeaux (Pinot is not even grown there). Worse yet, Cheval Blanc is made from 2 different grapes, Cabernet Franc and yes, MERLOT.

Not mocking nor picking on anyone, the movie script should/could have been better done to at least explain this to movie goers. As is, almost no one got the real point save for remembering the "I won't drink no fffing Merlot!" catch phrase.

The movie has done great harm to Pinot Noir producers AND consumers when all of a sudden wineries who looked down at Pinot Noir (think Napa wineries and their "Pinot is crap" mantra for decades) and then jumped in making very expensive and sub-par Pinot only because it caught traction in the market place. Quality, in general, went down while prices went up and these days you really need to know what you're buying (Pinot wise) as opposed to having almost no bad Pinot Noir wines on retail shelves prior to when the movie came out. Oh well...

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Irony/Sarcasm/Self denial Point:

Mies most prized possession, a bottle of Cheval Blanc is not even made from Pinot Noir, its made in Bordeaux (Pinot is not even grown there). Worse yet, Cheval Blanc is made from 2 different grapes, Cabernet Franc and yes, MERLOT.

Just as CA has turned out a ton of cheap Merlot, they have made many excellent ones too. Stags Leap is 1st brand I think of that has great Merlot in general. Merlot as you mentioned is a base grape in BDX. I am fan of Cab Franc too! Not so many are fans of straight Cab Franc wines; leave them for me!

Many of the joke in Sideways probably escaped 90% of the movie goers.

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Just as CA has turned out a ton of cheap Merlot, they have made many excellent ones too. Stags Leap is 1st brand I think of that has great Merlot in general. Merlot as you mentioned is a base grape in BDX. I am fan of Cab Franc too! Not so many are fans of straight Cab Franc wines; leave them for me!

Many of the joke in Sideways probably escaped 90% of the movie goers.

Duckhorn, by far, Merlot was and is their claim to fame, although they branched out lately into, you guessed it, Pinot Noir (Mendocino). Merlot can be great when done right, like anything else. Cab Franc, same as for Merlot, needs decent heat to ripen properly, both sometimes taste green and vegetal when underripe. I am guessing you're drinking Loire Cab Francs? Some are excellent.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

I am guessing you're drinking Loire Cab Francs? Some are excellent.

Was that really a guess? You bet I am!

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Was that really a guess? You bet I am!

Not really a guess since I know you're not a fan of CA wines and only Loire outside of CA makes great single varietal Cab Franc. There are small batch and affordable Cab Francs produced in Napa, but I am not sure they reach Right Coast.

Read that Marty's moved to a new location, they used to have great selection of wine.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

Not really a guess since I know you're not a fan of CA wines and only Loire outside of CA makes great single varietal Cab Franc. There are small batch and affordable Cab Francs produced in Napa, but I am not sure they reach Right Coast.

Read that Marty's moved to a new location, they used to have great selection of wine.

You mean like the 2006 Usseglio Châteauneuf-du-Pape for $25?

I picked up an almost vertical of Diamond Creek wines from the early 80's to mid 90's for a steal a couple of months ago; not from Marty's.