People never cease to amaze me

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by ggainey

Also just for the record I am not picking on Massachusett's, but that's where family lives, and my experience in "The North" On the flip side I was also surprised how much the cigar smokers in the north are much more conservative than the average northerners. Also my personal observations, I don't have any empirical data to back any of this up. Oh yeah, I love all of you.

Hi Greg,

I'm not having an easy time trying to convey my views on this, so I'll try again:
I believe in the Second Amendment.
I believe in the Divine right to self defense.
I believe that we, as a society and as individuals, should look after our neighbors and all innocents. Bad guys can all fry.
I will risk my safety and life to protect innocent life.
I will not risk my safety or life to protect the PROPERTY of others, but I will do all I can up to that point.
As for Carlos' neighbors, all I'm saying is, they MAY OR MAY NOT be a-holes, but without KNOWING what they did, it's like judging a beauty contest in the dark.
I have been a sheepdog my whole adult life from my 4 years as a Torpedoman's Mate on a submarine playing tag with "Ivan" to my 22 years as a Security Officer. I have put myself in harm's way for others.

AND:

[G G]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

Hi Greg,

I'm not having an easy time trying to convey my views on this, so I'll try again:
I believe in the Second Amendment.
I believe in the Divine right to self defense.
I believe that we, as a society and as individuals, should look after our neighbors and all innocents. Bad guys can all fry.
I will risk my safety and life to protect innocent life.
I will not risk my safety or life to protect the PROPERTY of others, but I will do all I can up to that point.
As for Carlos' neighbors, all I'm saying is, they MAY OR MAY NOT be a-holes, but without KNOWING what they did, it's like judging a beauty contest in the dark.
I have been a sheepdog my whole adult life from my 4 years as a Torpedoman's Mate on a submarine playing tag with "Ivan" to my 22 years as a Security Officer. I have put myself in harm's way for others.

AND:

Darren, I almost didn't post all that just cause I was afraid you would take it the wrong way. My main point is how different parts of the country was raised way different and we tend to look at things as if we were in a fishbowl, that is judged against our own life experiences. Thanks for being gracious, and I shouldn't have been scared you would take it the wrong way, cause I know we could have talked it out. I can go with you maybe on the property protection, cause even in Florida we have the right to use deadly force to stop or prevent a "Forcible Felony" and property protection according to the Florida guru of gun law (Jon Gutmacher) prolly wouldn't work too good. Carlos, I would def help. I had a police friend of mine tell me one time that if I ever saw him getting wailed on and I didn't stop to help, he would either kill me or haunt me according to the outcome. So I guess it's a personal decision but for me (and Darren) and the others it isn't a hard decision as it is prolly built into us to get involved and help our fellow man when needed.

[Subvet642]

I guess I wasn't communicating very well. There are more people like you up here than most people would guess; we usually have to keep our views to ourselves.

[G G]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

I guess I wasn't communicating very well. There are more people like you up here than most people would guess; we usually have to keep our views to ourselves.

Trust me I know, they'd run you outta town if they knew.

I know that the South aint got no corner on Patriots, we can be found from sea to shining sea bro.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

As for Carlos' neighbors, all I'm saying is, they MAY OR MAY NOT be a-holes, but without KNOWING what they did, it's like judging a beauty contest in the dark.

Well, being the inquisitive butt head that I am, I ran into my next door dingbat yesterday and just saw the one across the street, next door to the one that came out.

I asked both the same question. "Hey, the other day, did you hear my alarm going off in the middle of the day?".

Their responses were almost mirror images of one another. Almost as if the responses came from one mind and not two.

Here is what they said.
"Yeah, we heard it. Didn't know it was yours. Figured it was a false alarm."

I then asked, why would you figure it was a false alarm v. a real, actual alarm?
They similarly said most are false.

I then asked what if it had been my alarm going off due to my smoke detector which is part of my monitored alarm system?
What if my pet was all alone and could have been saved by the fire? What if I had a heart attack and was passed out? What if I was consumed by smoke? What if it was my wife?
Neither considered that.

So, according to my neighbors, 3 of the 7, one worried about me and was concerned enough to look outside to see what was going on. That didn't involve risking his life in any way as evidenced by the fact he is still alive, well and not harmed in any way.
Two others wrote it off as a false alarm, not having any way of knowing the difference between a false one and a real one.

Mind you, the one next door travels often. Who do you think she asks to look out for her home as they have tried to break in a couple of times already?
Yeah, the guy with the freaking false alarm that instead we will just ignore it.
Good luck to her next time she needs me to look out for her home.

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Well, being the inquisitive butt head that I am, I ran into my next door dingbat yesterday and just saw the one across the street, next door to the one that came out.

I asked both the same question. "Hey, the other day, did you hear my alarm going off in the middle of the day?".

Their responses were almost mirror images of one another. Almost as if the responses came from one mind and not two.

Here is what they said.
"Yeah, we heard it. Didn't know it was yours. Figured it was a false alarm."

I then asked, why would you figure it was a false alarm v. a real, actual alarm?
They similarly said most are false.

I then asked what if it had been my alarm going off due to my smoke detector which is part of my monitored alarm system?
What if my pet was all alone and could have been saved by the fire? What if I had a heart attack and was passed out? What if I was consumed by smoke? What if it was my wife?
Neither considered that.

So, according to my neighbors, 3 of the 7, one worried about me and was concerned enough to look outside to see what was going on. That didn't involve risking his life in any way as evidenced by the fact he is still alive, well and not harmed in any way.
Two others wrote it off as a false alarm, not having any way of knowing the difference between a false one and a real one.

Mind you, the one next door travels often. Who do you think she asks to look out for her home as they have tried to break in a couple of times already?
Yeah, the guy with the freaking false alarm that instead we will just ignore it.
Good luck to her next time she needs me to look out for her home.

It looks like you do, indeed, have some asswipe neighbors, and you know which ones they are, and knowing is a lot better than guessing.