Bead Qestion

I have so many kinds of beads I can't heardly keep track of them, but rest assured I'll never spend $30/pound again!
KL beads work every bit as well as anything else; why pay more?
I just bought 32lbs of beads; a couple of us will use them exclusively for maintinaing humidity in walk-ins.
Need any? Shoot me a pm and we can work a little trade.

Originally Posted by audio1der

I have so many kinds of beads I can't heardly keep track of them, but rest assured I'll never spend $30/pound again!
KL beads work every bit as well as anything else; why pay more?
I just bought 32lbs of beads; a couple of us will use them exclusively for maintinaing humidity in walk-ins.
Need any? Shoot me a pm and we can work a little trade.

Shilila's page mentions you need 9-14 pounds of KL in your humidor to match 1LB of their beads. I find that a bit exaggerated. I might have 1.5 lbs of KL in my 52 bottle wineador and it's usually at the 65-67% RH range. Though I have had the bottom shelf spike a bit during the summer. It's at 71% RH as of this morning. That's right next to the compressor, probably has the most temperature flux in the whole cooler.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Mindflux

Shilila's page mentions you need 9-14 pounds of KL in your humidor to match 1LB of their beads. I find that a bit exaggerated. I might have 1.5 lbs of KL in my 52 bottle wineador and it's usually at the 65-67% RH range. Though I have had the bottom shelf spike a bit during the summer. It's at 71% RH as of this morning. That's right next to the compressor, probably has the most temperature flux in the whole cooler.

I personally did the tests, and it's not remotely exagerrated. It's underestimated. The only way those nine pounds of beads can transfer water as quickly as shilala beads is to spread them one inch thick on a surface, which is improbable, if not impossible to do.
In addition, KL beads trap free hydrocarbons and become less effective from the day you start using them to the day they don't work at all (because they eventually become completely plugged).
Shilala beads can't physically hold free hydrocarbons, never become plugged, and last forever.
The only reason I even piped up is because of all the humidity control media options out there, Kitty Litter is the poorest by far. And despite the price, pound for pound they are by far the worst value.
They work for chit. Literally.

Originally Posted by shilala

I personally did the tests, and it's not remotely exagerrated. It's underestimated. The only way those nine pounds of beads can transfer water as quickly as shilala beads is to spread them one inch thick on a surface, which is improbable, if not impossible to do.
In addition, KL beads trap free hydrocarbons and become less effective from the day you start using them to the day they don't work at all (because they eventually become completely plugged).
Shilala beads can't physically hold free hydrocarbons, never become plugged, and last forever.
The only reason I even piped up is because of all the humidity control media options out there, Kitty Litter is the poorest by far. And despite the price, pound for pound they are by far the worst value.
They work for chit. Literally.

Yeah, but it's not like you have any financial reasoning for attempting to thwart the use of KL or anything.

As much as I want to believe your beads are superior there are things that just down right hokey such as melting bags because of water friction against millions of clay pores? I guess I'd have to see it to believe it. Care to video it and toss it on youtube for mythbusting sake?

Also wasn't clay the primary source of humidification in Humidors something like 50 years ago? How do your beads differ from what is mostly considered 'ancient humidification'?

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Mindflux

Yeah, but it's not like you have any financial reasoning for attempting to thwart the use of KL or anything.

As much as I want to believe your beads are superior there are things that just down right hokey such as melting bags because of water friction against millions of clay pores? I guess I'd have to see it to believe it. Care to video it and toss it on youtube for mythbusting sake?

Also wasn't clay the primary source of humidification in Humidors something like 50 years ago? How do your beads differ from what is mostly considered 'ancient humidification'?

First off, the whole Kitty Litter thing went off long before I even started developing beads for sale. They were tested against available media and untreated silica gel beads.
All the rest of the info on the beads has been posted here and at CS as all the brothers helped develop them along the way. All the tech data has been posted, all the brothers have posted their results, and the beads speak for themselves.
Lastly, I don't own or have any interest in the beads anymore. I sold the business away. Maybe that'll lend me some credibility?

Originally Posted by shilala

First off, the whole Kitty Litter thing went off long before I even started developing beads for sale. They were tested against available media and untreated silica gel beads.
All the rest of the info on the beads has been posted here and at CS as all the brothers helped develop them along the way. All the tech data has been posted, all the brothers have posted their results, and the beads speak for themselves.
Lastly, I don't own or have any interest in the beads anymore. I sold the business away. Maybe that'll lend me some credibility?

Why don't you cook up 2 pounds for me and send them my way for comparisons sake. A non affiliated party sort of review

[Kreth]

Originally Posted by Mindflux

Why don't you cook up 2 pounds for me and send them my way for comparisons sake. A non affiliated party sort of review

While we're fishing for free stuff, I'd like a box of VSGs.
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[BigAsh]

Originally Posted by shilala

First off, the whole Kitty Litter thing went off long before I even started developing beads for sale. They were tested against available media and untreated silica gel beads.
All the rest of the info on the beads has been posted here and at CS as all the brothers helped develop them along the way. All the tech data has been posted, all the brothers have posted their results, and the beads speak for themselves.
Lastly, I don't own or have any interest in the beads anymore. I sold the business away. Maybe that'll lend me some credibility?

Nuff said....I got 'em, then got more as my needs grew...Rock steady stuff....