Kids Sent Home For Wearing American Flag

Originally Posted by E.J.

Guess I am in the minority, but if kids are doing something that is clearly designed to antagonize other classmates, I have no issue with the school asking you to change.

It appears to me, that is exactly what this is....

They were not clearly trying to antagonize anyone.

As far as the reports, no one seems to think they were either.

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

They were not clearly trying to antagonize anyone.

As far as the reports, no one seems to think they were either.

And these reports came from where?

Originally Posted by mariogolbee

And these reports came from where?

Lis Wiehl, a former federal prosecutor.

Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at the University of California-Los Angeles.

[E.J.]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

They were not clearly trying to antagonize anyone.

As far as the reports, no one seems to think they were either.

Again, I am fine to be in the minority and am not asking you to come to my way of thinking.... I could not care less if you agree or what the reports stated....

Not for one minute do I think these fashionistas were just wearing their flag shirts and bandannas as part of their school clothing rotation.... With that, I think their exact motive was to antagonize....

I just don't think there is a place for that at school.....

[Bigwaved]

Originally Posted by E.J.

Again, I am fine to be in the minority and am not asking you to come to my way of thinking.... I could not care less if you agree or what the reports stated....

Not for one minute do I think these fashionistas were just wearing their flag shirts and bandannas as part of their school clothing rotation.... With that, I think their exact motive was to antagonize....

I just don't think there is a place for that at school.....

Like I said about intent being lost in the symbolism of the flag...if they were not being antagonistic, then they really, really ignorant of their surroundings and that funny little thing called a calendar. Again, was the decision by the vice-principal the best one? It may or may not have been. That is something that all of the people at the school should have more insight on than any of us or others reporting on it so far. Many variables could be involved in this. Maybe, just maybe, their is more to this than what it seems on the surface, from afar.

Originally Posted by Bigwaved

Like I said about intent being lost in the symbolism of the flag...if they were not being antagonistic, then they really, really ignorant of their surroundings and that funny little thing called a calendar. Again, was the decision by the vice-principal the best one? It may or may not have been. That is something that all of the people at the school should have more insight on than any of us or others reporting on it so far. Many variables could be involved in this. Maybe, just maybe, their is more to this than what it seems on the surface, from afar.

I think more info surfacing will help.

Also, another thing to think about: This school in Cali, how many of them are Americans? You would think that they would be fine with the American Flag also present, no? I mean, it is America after all, and it is an American school.

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

I think more info surfacing will help.

Also, another thing to think about: This school in Cali, how many of them are Americans? You would think that they would be fine with the American Flag also present, no? I mean, it is America after all, and it is an American school.

With this comment I can see that you're missing the entire point and obviously not using critical thinking skills. Too bad. I suppose ignorance truly is bliss.

Originally Posted by mariogolbee

With this comment I can see that you're missing the entire point and obviously not using critical thinking skills. Too bad. I suppose ignorance truly is bliss.

Nate isn't ignorant at all, Mario. It's probably best that ALL parties with differences in this thread agree to disagree. We're all friends here.

Originally Posted by mariogolbee

With this comment I can see that you're missing the entire point and obviously not using critical thinking skills. Too bad. I suppose ignorance truly is bliss.

Not sure why you are calling me ignorant? Just stating my opinion, and I am respecting yours.

Originally Posted by Darrell

Nate isn't ignorant at all, Mario. It's probably best that ALL parties with differences in this thread agree to disagree. We're all friends here.

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Not sure why you are calling me ignorant? Just stating my opinion, and I am respecting yours.

I'm not stating ignorance in all things. Apparently there is some ignorance involved in this issue if antagonism in this case cannot be seen when it is so clear. Ignorance is "lack of knowledge" and when used correctly pertains to something rather than the whole. If it is truly believed that there was no ill will on the part of the kids then there is likely some ignorance involved in experience with these matters.

Oh, and Darrell, we are all ignorant in regards to at least some things. If you and I weren't, for example, we wouldn't be in school now, would we?

[Bigwaved]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Also, another thing to think about: This school in Cali, how many of them are Americans? You would think that they would be fine with the American Flag also present, no? I mean, it is America after all, and it is an American school.

Since it was a school, my assumption would be that a flag was on a pole somewhere on the grounds. The intention of it being there falls in line with what is symbolizes. On the other hand, some kids wearing shirts and hankies on their heads do not seem to have the same motive. So, to answer your question, it is not the flag at issue here. It is the message being sent. If it were merely the flag, this would have occurred the first time the shirt and hankie were worn, correct? That is my opinion, based off of my life experiences. They are varied. I have been exposed to a lot of things. Those things have distanced me from the turnip truck, if you will. I will not move past having merely an opinion until I know more details.

[macpappy]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

I think more info surfacing will help.

Also, another thing to think about: This school in Cali, how many of them are Americans? You would think that they would be fine with the American Flag also present, no? I mean, it is America after all, and it is an American school.

I believe I read somewhere that 40 percent of the school is considered "Hispanic" but that ethnic background is no indication of how many are American. In fact, I would say that the vast majority of the students are probably American citizens.

I don't think the kids were trying to start a riot by wearing the American flag. I do think they were trying to make a statement about the school celebrating "Cinco de Mayo."

Originally Posted by macpappy

I believe I read somewhere that 40 percent of the school is considered "Hispanic" but that ethnic background is no indication of how many are American. In fact, I would say that the vast majority of the students are probably American citizens.

I don't think the kids were trying to start a riot by wearing the American flag. I do think they were trying to make a statement about the school celebrating "Cinco de Mayo."

This was the only point. They were just showing love for their country on a day that the government school was showing love for a foreign country.
Now the "hispanic" students are marching through the streets demanding respect. You don't demand respect, you earn it.
I think the V.P. didn't know what he was starting or he would have done something different.

[neoflex]

I thought Cinco De Mayo was a holiday that us Gringos used as an excuse to drink????