Starting to like wine...the Red version

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Mugen910

Can we start a Newbie Must Try list of wines? What would you suggest in making such a list?

Oh and why do I need a special glass for wine or port? I noticed that drinking 10yr old taylorfladgate (sp) out of a glass cup (moses is going to kill me) did not take nearly as good as when it was consumed out of a special glass.

A list of "Newbie Must Try list of wines" is a nice idea. I would recommend narrowing/defining what wines can be on the list or why they are in the list. Major definers would be price range, food friendly, cigar friendly... Beyond “I liked it” should be stated as you are nominating it for some reason. Not everyone wants to spend $50 on a bottle and some have no interest in drinking $5 bottles of wine.

As for the glass, every wine has its own unique properties that a proper wine glass will exaggerate or compliment. Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference! Very few restaurants have the correct port glass. Most serve them in a thimble like child's glass. If you go to such a place, ask for your port in a white wine glass. Many times they just pour you even more! Especially if it's a busy nite club kind of place.

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference!

The only thing I noticed was that it drank sweeter and almost thicker. I went home and purchased the same bottle and drank from a thimble like child's glass and that was very different. I'll have to invest in real port glassware since I seem to be take a glass or two every few days after work.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Mugen910

have to invest in real port glassware since I seem to be take a glass or two every few days after work.

Reidel is the most popular fine port glass in USA. Libby makes a nice small red wine glass that looks just like the Reidel at just a couple of dollars. The main difference is the Libby has a rolled edge and Reidel is cut, but they are similar profiles which is the most important factor.

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Reidel is the most popular fine port glass in USA. Libby makes a nice small red wine glass that looks just like the Reidel at just a couple of dollars. The main difference is the Libby has a rolled edge and Reidel is cut, but they are similar profiles which is the most important factor.

Does a rolled edge make a difference in any way?

btw thanks for the info.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Mugen910

Does a rolled edge make a difference in any way?

btw thanks for the info.

Yes. I suggest that everyone pour the same wine into different glasses and judge for yourself.

If you ever questioned whether a good glass can make wine taste better. I'll bet you on that one all day long.

The nose will be dramatically different, as will the taste and delivery. A port glass deliver the perfect amount each sip. As does a Red Burgundy or Chablis glass does.

The whole experience and pleasure of wine is dramatically effected by stemware.

[bobarian]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Yes. I suggest that everyone pour the same wine into different glasses and judge for yourself.

If you ever questioned whether a good glass can make wine taste better. I'll bet you on that one all day long.

The nose will be dramatically different, as will the taste and delivery. A port glass deliver the perfect amount each sip. As does a Red Burgundy or Chablis glass does.

The whole experience and pleasure of wine is dramatically effected by stemware.

Moses is wise. The shape and construction of the glass will add to the experience. The actual chemical qualities of the glass seems to be less important. Both Crate and Barrell and Pier 1 Imports have several lines of glasses in different price ranges.

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

The whole experience and pleasure of wine is dramatically effected by stemware.

Originally Posted by bobarian

The shape and construction of the glass will add to the experience.

Don't ever invite me over or I'll accidentally take home your wine/port glassware

[kgoings]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

A list of "Newbie Must Try list of wines" is a nice idea. I would recommend narrowing/defining what wines can be on the list or why they are in the list. Major definers would be price range, food friendly, cigar friendly... Beyond “I liked it” should be stated as you are nominating it for some reason. Not everyone wants to spend $50 on a bottle and some have no interest in drinking $5 bottles of wine.

As for the glass, every wine has its own unique properties that a proper wine glass will exaggerate or compliment. Your description and result is correct and you astute to notice the difference! Very few restaurants have the correct port glass. Most serve them in a thimble like child's glass. If you go to such a place, ask for your port in a white wine glass. Many times they just pour you even more! Especially if it's a busy nite club kind of place.

A Newbie Must try list would be cool. It would be nice to have it categorized by area of production, and then sub categories by price

[Mugen910]

Originally Posted by kgoings

A Newbie Must try list would be cool. It would be nice to have it categorized by area of production, and then sub categories by price

I vote RLMEDIC, THERIDDICK, MOSESBOTBOL to commission such a list and they must work together

Hey Kirk,

Another that you might like to give a try that is readily available and very reasonable is the Torres Gran Coronas Cabernet Sauvignon. It is a reasonable priced wine (you should be able to find it at around the 15 to 17 dollar mark. It is an 85% Cab and 15% Tempranillo. It is from Spain if I recall, it is a very easy drinking wine that goes super with bbq

[kgoings]

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Hey Kirk,

Another that you might like to give a try that is readily available and very reasonable is the Torres Gran Coronas Cabernet Sauvignon. It is a reasonable priced wine (you should be able to find it at around the 15 to 17 dollar mark. It is an 85% Cab and 15% Tempranillo. It is from Spain if I recall, it is a very easy drinking wine that goes super with bbq

Thanks!

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Hey Kirk,

Another that you might like to give a try that is readily available and very reasonable is the Torres Gran Coronas Cabernet Sauvignon. It is a reasonable priced wine (you should be able to find it at around the 15 to 17 dollar mark. It is an 85% Cab and 15% Tempranillo. It is from Spain if I recall, it is a very easy drinking wine that goes super with bbq

Already off to a good start... That is a solid Spanish wine with a recognizable label.

I picked up a 1991 Torres Grand Reserva for $25 in bin ends on Saturday. My girlfriend and I are anxious to open it.

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Already off to a good start...

If one doesn't mind the presence of American Oak barrels - dill nose and flavor.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Already off to a good start... That is a solid Spanish wine with a recognizable label.

I picked up a 1991 Torres Grand Reserva for $25 in bin ends on Saturday. My girlfriend and I are anxious to open it.

Originally Posted by TheRiddick

If one doesn't mind the presence of opinions other than my own.

I fixed it for you.

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by pnoon

I fixed it for you.

Thanks.

Can you clarify what was it you took as "opinion"? The fact that American Oak barrels instill dill flavor on wine, sometimes heavily so? Or the fact that Spain is only second to Australia in use of American Oak in wines in that price range?