Assault Rifle Ban

[MikeyC]

Originally Posted by Tombstone

What does everyone think about the inevitable assault rifle ban. After this ban is passed do you think that there will be a slippery slope in regards to banning all firearms?

IMHO the government does not have the right to take away my second amendment right. My forefathers died for private citizens to own guns to defend ourselves from any threat both domestic and foreign. This is America isn't it?

I just wrote a long post in reply to this thread, but decided I would rather pare it down so as not to start any kind of argument or make this thread political. The only thing I really want to say is that:

At the time the 2nd ammendment was written there was a definite and dire need to own a gun that doesn't exist anymore.

[spooble]

Originally Posted by MikeyC

At the time the 2nd ammendment was written there was a definite and dire need to own a gun that doesn't exist anymore.

The 2nd amendment guarantees a right... it doesn't address a need. There is a distinct difference.

Originally Posted by spooble

The 2nd amendment guarantees a right... it doesn't address a need. There is a distinct difference.

Exactly!!

[poker]

Keep it civil folks. This thread is lighting up the radar screen.

[elderboy02]

Allright, time to lighten this up a little folks.

What is your favorite magazine to use? I like D&H Black Teflon with the Magpul follower.

[icehog3]

Insulting other members will not be tolerated.

Originally Posted by poker

Keep it civil folks. This thread is lighting up the radar screen.

And I didn't do it!!! It is a good day!

Sensitive topic on both sides of the fence. But a good one if handled correctly by all involved.

(Congrats on over 1,000 thought provoking posts Kelly!)

[poker]

Originally Posted by ahc4353

And I didn't do it!!! It is a good day!

(Congrats on over 1,000 thought provoking posts Kelly!)

Thanks! Trying to catch up to tom
Im just a junior douche LOL

[gettysburgfreak]

I really hope they don't ban assault rifles as I would like to get one once I get a job.

I don't think it's a ban we have to be concerned about as the main issue. Since the last ban sunsetted there has been legislation in the house consistently to create a new ban. Never had enough support to bring to the forefront. Now during the next 4 years, will there be a push and a try for a new ban, probably 100%. Though I have heard the new president elect talk more on a college football playoff then anything on a gun ban since elected. I do not think it will be a Jan 20th 4pm type super ban and get all you can by then.
The problem will be with new taxes on firearms and ammunition. Some are talking a 500% tax on ammunition and another huge tax on new firearms. That would be a killer for everyone who enjoys shooting as a hobby. Hunters/plinkers/black rifle lovers/handgunners. I don't know how many times I would go to the range and every time I pull the trigger I am sending a few dollars at a paper target.

So I am trying to stock up on ammuntion and mags..If the buying frenzy dies down a little bit, then perhaps a new rifle.

[elderboy02]

Originally Posted by funnymantrip

... Some are talking a 500% tax on ammunition and another huge tax on new firearms. ...

I saw that. I cant imagine paying $1,000 for 500 rounds of XM193

[Flatsix]

It seems crazy to me to put a 500% tax on ammunition. How will this protect anyone from themselves or others. The type of people that stick up liquor stores, do drive by's, car jack or shoot at other gang members won't be affected by a 500% tax on ammo. Who gets affected? people like me!

I have handguns, shotguns, rifles and an assault rifle. I lock all my guns in a safe with the trigger guards on. I transport them according to the law. I'm a responsible gun owner. I go through a 100-200 rounds about once a month at the range. If the (2) boxes of 100 count range rounds that I shoot goes up 500%, I won't be at the range much.

It's a hobby, what's next my flyrod? After all, the fish do get boo boos on their lips from the hooks.

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by poker

Keep it civil folks. This thread is lighting up the radar screen.

A thread lighting up the radar screen and i'm not the cause of it? I must be losing my touch

Anywho, bans are silly (though I do support the ban on fully automatic weapons).

I am lovin the Chuck Norris Fact Generator!!

[coffeemonkey]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

A thread lighting up the radar screen and i'm not the cause of it? I must be losing my touch

Anywho, bans are silly (though I do support the ban on fully automatic weapons).

Reread your last sentence. You called bans silly and then the very next thing was to agree with a ban. Very kindly, you can't have it both ways. Please choose one.

I agree that bans on inanimate objects are silly. Why? Because in banning some thing or other you are declaring that the thing is the problem. The thing is not the problem. The people abusing that thing is the problem. Fully automatic weapons are not wrong in and of themselves, they can't be, they are objects, just sitting there, doing nothing on their own. It is the people who use them for evil that is the problem.

As long as we insist on labeling things as the problem we aren't going to solve the real issue, bad people.

Originally Posted by coffeemonkey

Reread your last sentence. You called bans silly and then the very next thing was to agree with a ban. Very kindly, you can't have it both ways. Please choose one.

I agree that bans on inanimate objects are silly. Why? Because in banning some thing or other you are declaring that the thing is the problem. The thing is not the problem. The people abusing that thing is the problem. Fully automatic weapons are not wrong in and of themselves, they can't be, they are objects, just sitting there, doing nothing on their own. It is the people who use them for evil that is the problem.

As long as we insist on labeling things as the problem we aren't going to solve the real issue, bad people.

Great Point!

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by coffeemonkey

Reread your last sentence. You called bans silly and then the very next thing was to agree with a ban. Very kindly, you can't have it both ways. Please choose one.

VirtualSmitty can have it both ways

[AAlmeter]

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

A thread lighting up the radar screen and i'm not the cause of it? I must be losing my touch

Anywho, bans are silly (though I do support the ban on fully automatic weapons).

Think of how I feel!

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

A thread lighting up the radar screen and i'm not the cause of it? I must be losing my touch

Anywho, bans are silly (though I do support the ban on fully automatic weapons).

Fully automatic weapons are not banned. They only require a special license. The 1934 National Firearms Act just made it very difficult to own them. Many people can and do own them.

The way I see it, I NEED enough weapons and ammo of sufficient power to supply myself and anyone else around me who NEEDS one, for whatever reason, for an indefinite amount of time. I will be the one who defines "NEED" for me.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

edit: oops, that's what I get for being called away in the middle of writing a post.

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by Tombstone

What does everyone think about the inevitable assault rifle ban. After this ban is passed do you think that there will be a slippery slope in regards to banning all firearms?

IMHO the government does not have the right to take away my second amendment right. My forefathers died for private citizens to own guns to defend ourselves from any threat both domestic and foreign. This is America isn't it?

Originally Posted by Tombstone

You are incorrect. My blood pressure rises when i hear ignorant people speak. "The founders added the 2nd amendment so that when, after a long train of abuses, agovernment evinces a methodical design upon our natural rights, we will have the means to protect and recover our rights. That is why the right to keep and bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights."

Please study American history.

The slippery slope we deal with here is much different.

From long experience we know that religion and politics are not subjects that engender brotherhood and good cheer on cigar boards. Lot's of places that support those types of discussions. This isn't one of them.