Padron 1964 Anniversary Series Torpedo

[drevim]

Dave, you hit on a point that seems often lost. NCs just don't seem to exhale out the nose well at all. When I first started, I couldn't for the life of me get it. Then after switching to cubans, and I was like, yeah this is what they mean. Even when I mixed cubans and NCs, I couldn't get myself to nose exhale NCs. I think you lose so much not exhaling cubans through your nose, but domestics almost demand a mouth only smoke. Don't know what the difference is between the two types, seems NCs are just built to be such powerbombs/flavorbombs, that the subtle tastes, that a nose exhale demands are lost.

Nice review, Padrons were always my favorite NCs, and of the few I still have, they are the only ones left.

Originally Posted by drevim

Dave, you hit on a point that seems often lost. NCs just don't seem to exhale out the nose well at all. When I first started, I couldn't for the life of me get it. Then after switching to cubans, and I was like, yeah this is what they mean. Even when I mixed cubans and NCs, I couldn't get myself to nose exhale NCs. I think you lose so much not exhaling cubans through your nose, but domestics almost demand a mouth only smoke. Don't know what the difference is between the two types, seems NCs are just built to be such powerbombs/flavorbombs, that the subtle tastes, that a nose exhale demands are lost.

Nice review, Padrons were always my favorite NCs, and of the few I still have, they are the only ones left.

This maybe a stupid question, but how is nose exhaling that important? Isn't it about taste and body?

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by MLC

This maybe a stupid question, but how is nose exhaling that important? Isn't it about taste and body?

True but how you access that taste and body is the point our friend refers to.

I posted some thoughts on this here....

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1906

The real issue has to do with "what cigars" you smoke. Within the Cuban category the issue of "nose" becomes a significant issue.

Dave, would you say the aging had a dramatic impact on the flavor profile, or not so much?

[boonedoggle]

I find that the larger 64s, especially the maduro, get very harsh closer to the band IF they are smoked too quickly. I have to make an effort to smoke em slower, then they turn out excellent. Smoking an Exclusivo right now, as a matter of fact.

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by Resipsa

Dave, would you say the aging had a dramatic impact on the flavor profile, or not so much?

Dunno. My smoking technique has changed so radically from when these were frequent smokes. If you are a mouth only smoker, no nose exhale, these are one of the best cigars regarding flavor, aftertaste etc. Once you start the process of nosin it the frame of reference changes and you realize how little you get out of these based upon the harshness of the nose as compared to your run of the mill cuban cigars.

I remember them as being "special" just better than most other cigars from my no nose period. They may be better now after a few years but.. not a cigar I can fully appreciate in contrast due to current habits.

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by MLC

This maybe a stupid question, but how is nose exhaling that important? Isn't it about taste and body?

The next time you sit down to have a good meal, hold your nose while your eating and see what a difference it makes.

Originally Posted by VirtualSmitty

The next time you sit down to have a good meal, hold your nose while your eating and see what a difference it makes.

I agree you can get more taste exhaling through the nose - but what I was responding to was a quote that said it's all about nose exhaling. I've read Daklugs sticky about different ways of smoking and I can understand this thread better now.

[Buena Fortuna]

IMHO, Exhaling through your nose is the only true way to taste the entire flavor profile of a cigar.

Flavor is a combination of two sensory perceptions: taste and aroma. The first part of the flavor duo of taste and aroma is perceived by the taste buds and other sensory tissues on the tongue. It is this area which perceives non-volatile stimuli such as: salt, sweet, acid (sour) and bitter. These taste buds are generally located in very specific areas on the tongue (sweet in front, salt next and along the sides, acid (sour) next and along the sides, bitter in the rear and from side to side covering the back of the tongue). However, all types of taste buds can be found located sparsely throughout the tongue's entire surface.

The olfactory (scent) receptors in the nasal passages, in contrast, are fine-tuned and discriminating. A normal person can tell the difference between 4000-10,000 smells.

I was at a cigar event where Christian Eiroa was presenting Camacho cigars. He explained and demonstrated the process as follows:

Take in a draw of smoke, hold it in your mouth for 3-5 seconds, place your tounge up on the roof of your mouth behind your top row of teeth, and exhale throuh your nose. (Note to newbies at this, make sure you don't take in too much of a draw, and also let some smoke exhale out of your mouth either before or after exhaling through the nose...and don't inhale)

By following this process, you will soon begin to be able to discern the complexities and distinct flavors of cigars.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by boonedoggle

I find that the larger 64s, especially the maduro, get very harsh closer to the band IF they are smoked too quickly. I have to make an effort to smoke em slower, then they turn out excellent. Smoking an Exclusivo right now, as a matter of fact.

I find this to be the opposite with the 64s. It's harsher near the foot. But then again I usually smoke the smaller ones (Principes).