Power tool advice?

rack04 · 01-08-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ty Atkinson

Alot of it is going to depend on what you want to do, you kinda sound like me do it yourselfer on alot of small house projects and want the tools to make life a little easier.

I will use the miter saw primarily for molding, shelving, and general carpentry. The compressor will be used for tires, nailers, paint sprayer, and impact wrenches. As far as nailers the only one that I probably wouldn't have a use for is a framing nailer. Finishing and brad nailers will be used most of the time.

aich75013 · 01-08-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rack04

I will use the miter saw primarily for molding, shelving, and general carpentry. The compressor will be used for tires, nailers, paint sprayer, and impact wrenches. As far as nailers the only one that I probably wouldn't have a use for is a framing nailer. Finishing and brad nailers will be used most of the time.

I bought this off a guy on Craigslist last year (It was still sealed in the box) for just such uses. Works pretty good, but a little loud. I paid $225 and Home Depot wanted $299 + tax.
My brother-in-law has one as well and uses it when he builds fences. Although he bought a better nail gun to use with the compressor.

http://www.amazon.com/Porter-Cable-C.../dp/B000HZGTIA

St. Lou Stu · 01-08-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rack04

I will use the miter saw primarily for molding, shelving, and general carpentry. The compressor will be used for tires, nailers, paint sprayer, and impact wrenches. As far as nailers the only one that I probably wouldn't have a use for is a framing nailer. Finishing and brad nailers will be used most of the time.

For impacts, you would generally need more volume than what a pancake compressor could provide. Unless, you want to have it run constantly or recharge between difficult nuts/bolts.

IMHO 10 gallon minimum for impacts/automotive air tools. Otherwise you'll end up drinking too much beer while waiting and it will become counterproductive.

junkinduck · 01-08-2010, 08:20 AM

A compressor to run an impact needs to be at least 10 cfm. Not very portable and not too handy for household repair. A pancake is hard pressed to run an impact. Buy two compressors or the paslode butane or like I did for a while buy a lot of hose.

rack04 · 01-08-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu

For impacts, you would generally need more volume than what a pancake compressor could provide. Unless, you want to have it run constantly or recharge between difficult nuts/bolts.

IMHO 10 gallon minimum for impacts/automotive air tools. Otherwise you'll end up drinking too much beer while waiting and it will become counterproductive.

I could really do without an impact right now. I didn't know that it was going to dictate the size of the compressor. After a little reading most guides say that I should get an air compressor capable of 5 psi @ 90 cfm. Does this sound about right?

T.G · 01-08-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rack04

I could really do without an impact right now. I didn't know that it was going to dictate the size of the compressor. After a little reading most guides say that I should get an air compressor capable of 5 psi @ 90 cfm. Does this sound about right?

No, 5psi (boost) at 90cfm would be a computer case fan blowing into a garbage bag.

You probably meant 5cfm @ 90psi. This all depends on what you want to run and how hard you are going to run it. That's not a lot of air for high consumption tools.

rack04 · 01-08-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by T.G

No, 5psi (boost) at 90cfm would be a computer case fan blowing into a garbage bag.

You probably meant 5cfm @ 90psi. This all depends on what you want to run and how hard you are going to run it. That's not a lot of air for high consumption tools.

Yes sorry that was a typo.

RGD. · 01-08-2010, 10:18 AM

I've bought a few tools in my lifetime -

Buying tools can be and should be personal. The best tools out there can be crap if they are not what you need and don't fit your hand. To re-cap some of whats been said and to add to that:

If you want tools to last, buy what we, the pro's buy. Hiliti, Milwaukee, Porter Cable and Senco for nailers. Buying good quailty tools from these manufacturers, there is an excellent chance that as the tool gets old - 10-15 or 20 years they are going to have repair parts for them. I have a 1970 Hiliti powder gun that until recently was able to get parts for - that's a long damn time. This said - don't over buy on a tool that you will hardly ever use - DeWalt, Ryobi or Skil might work.

Don't buy a tool because it's popular, a certain color, etc. Pick the tool up and put it in your hand. Check for fit and feel. How heavy or light is it. Where are the handles and do they feel comfortable. Where are the controls - are they handy while using so you don't have to think about it - or do you have to stop and look at it. On saws - what side blade do you want? Ejector side? Do you need tools to change the blade? What is the base plate made of? Adjustment knobs? Sealed bearings and bushings? Direct drive or belt drive?
Look for features you need and accessories that can be added. And by the way - don't select a saw with less than 15 amps.

Ask wherever you are buying from to actually turn the tool on and use it if possible. Pro centers will do that. Hilti stores for example have areas just to use the tools. Home Depots sometimes have tool days. Look for events. If you know someone with a particular tool you like - ask to demo it.

Compressors is the latest discussion so - a small pancake one will most likely fit you just fine. Most of your tools will run at between 100 and 110 psi with your small brad nailers and paint sprayers at 90 and less. And yes a small pancake will run an impact wrench, air your tires, etc just fine. You won't be using it continuous. Porter Cable normally has some good deals on a two nailer set with compressor at Home Depot and Lowes.

So -
Buy quality.
Buy for fit and feel.
Buy for features/accessories.
Buy according to use.

And don't try to buy all your tools at once. Buy as you need them. As you gain more experience and skill - your taste and needs in tools will change.

Ron

rack04 · 01-12-2010, 07:55 AM

FWIW, Home Depot had a green tag sale on the Milwaukee 12" Compound Sliding Miter Saw this morning for $299. Unfortunately all of the stores in my area are sold out. Their stock was very limited.

01-08-2010, 08:20 AM	#4
junkinduck Still Watching My Back Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Don Location: Chester, OH Posts: 170 Trading: (2)	Re: Power tool advice? A compressor to run an impact needs to be at least 10 cfm. Not very portable and not too handy for household repair. A pancake is hard pressed to run an impact. Buy two compressors or the paslode butane or like I did for a while buy a lot of hose.

01-08-2010, 10:18 AM	#8
RGD. God Like Status Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ron Location: Alexandria, Virginia Posts: 971 Trading: (1)	Re: Power tool advice? I've bought a few tools in my lifetime - Buying tools can be and should be personal. The best tools out there can be crap if they are not what you need and don't fit your hand. To re-cap some of whats been said and to add to that: If you want tools to last, buy what we, the pro's buy. Hiliti, Milwaukee, Porter Cable and Senco for nailers. Buying good quailty tools from these manufacturers, there is an excellent chance that as the tool gets old - 10-15 or 20 years they are going to have repair parts for them. I have a 1970 Hiliti powder gun that until recently was able to get parts for - that's a long damn time. This said - don't over buy on a tool that you will hardly ever use - DeWalt, Ryobi or Skil might work. Don't buy a tool because it's popular, a certain color, etc. Pick the tool up and put it in your hand. Check for fit and feel. How heavy or light is it. Where are the handles and do they feel comfortable. Where are the controls - are they handy while using so you don't have to think about it - or do you have to stop and look at it. On saws - what side blade do you want? Ejector side? Do you need tools to change the blade? What is the base plate made of? Adjustment knobs? Sealed bearings and bushings? Direct drive or belt drive? Look for features you need and accessories that can be added. And by the way - don't select a saw with less than 15 amps. Ask wherever you are buying from to actually turn the tool on and use it if possible. Pro centers will do that. Hilti stores for example have areas just to use the tools. Home Depots sometimes have tool days. Look for events. If you know someone with a particular tool you like - ask to demo it. Compressors is the latest discussion so - a small pancake one will most likely fit you just fine. Most of your tools will run at between 100 and 110 psi with your small brad nailers and paint sprayers at 90 and less. And yes a small pancake will run an impact wrench, air your tires, etc just fine. You won't be using it continuous. Porter Cable normally has some good deals on a two nailer set with compressor at Home Depot and Lowes. So - Buy quality. Buy for fit and feel. Buy for features/accessories. Buy according to use. And don't try to buy all your tools at once. Buy as you need them. As you gain more experience and skill - your taste and needs in tools will change. Ron

01-12-2010, 07:55 AM	#9
rack04 Lebowski Urban Achiever Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Justin Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,023 Trading: (20)	Re: Power tool advice? FWIW, Home Depot had a green tag sale on the Milwaukee 12" Compound Sliding Miter Saw this morning for $299. Unfortunately all of the stores in my area are sold out. Their stock was very limited. __________________ "Why don't you put them in your secret compartment" - 12stones (Ricky)