Water pillow or Boveda humidity pack

Tenor CS · 01-05-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

After rereading the OP he says he is concerned about "keeping humidity in check" Does this mean he needs something absorb or provide humidity?? I dont think pillows or Boveda packs absorb very efficiently.

The humidipak website's first page is a huge splash screen that says "The World's First 2-way Humidity Control." So they are at least advertised as such. I've always been happy with them. I use a Boveda in my big 18-ct caddy.

longknocker · 01-05-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenor CS

The humidipak website's first page is a huge splash screen that says "The World's First 2-way Humidity Control." So they are at least advertised as such. I've always been happy with them. I use a Boveda in my big 18-ct caddy.

True! They Absorb Or Release Humidity And Maintain RH Even With A Poorly Sealed Humidor; Something Beads Can't Do.

CigarNut · 01-05-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by longknocker

True! They Absorb Or Release Humidity And Maintain RH Even With A Poorly Sealed Humidor; Something Beads Can't Do.

This is not true for shilala's beads! As with any product in a poorly sealed environment, Scott's beads will need to be re-calibrated periodically, but they will be able to go much longer before re-calibration is required than the silica or PG based products.

Scott's beads are set to maintain an equilibrium at 65% RH. They add or absorb moisture as needed, and for their size they handle much more moisture than other beads or silica (or PG) products.

longknocker · 01-05-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

This is not true for shilala's beads! As with any product in a poorly sealed environment, Scott's beads will need to be re-calibrated periodically, but they will be able to go much longer before re-calibration is required than the silica or PG based products.

Scott's beads are set to maintain an equilibrium at 65% RH. They add or absorb moisture as needed, and for their size they handle much more moisture than other beads or silica (or PG) products.

I Understand That & Use Scott's Beads In My Coolidors; They Work Great!

I Talked To Scott About A "Leaky" Desktop Humidor I Had & He Graciously Repaired It. Even Scott Said That His Beads Cannot Maintain The 65% That Boveda Does in An Unstable Environment. I Have Used 65%RH Boveda Packs For 3 Years Now On All My Desktop Humis. The Ones That Have Large Leaks Use Up The Boveda Packs More Quickly. The RH Never Varies More Than 1-2 Points. Boveda Packs Contained Purified Water, NOT PG, BTW.

hotreds · 01-05-2010, 03:36 PM

I also had no idea that Bovedas could be recharged. I know that they aren't "supposed" to be. Has anyone taken a rock-hard Boveda and actually recharged it into a soft good as new unit?

T.G · 01-05-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

I also had no idea that Bovedas could be recharged. I know that they aren't "supposed" to be. Has anyone taken a rock-hard Boveda and actually recharged it into a soft good as new unit?

I've done that with the ones that came out of Fuente boxes. Same pack or design I believe.

"I know that they aren't "supposed" to be"

LMAO. Pure marketing BS. It's a two way pack, it's sold as a two way pack, yet "you're not supposed to recharge it". Funny stuff. That's like telling you to throw out a set of Ni-Cad batteries when they run down.

longknocker · 01-05-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

I've done that with the ones that came out of Fuente boxes. Same pack or design I believe.

"I know that they aren't "supposed" to be"

LMAO. Pure marketing BS. It's a two way pack, it's sold as a two way pack, yet "you're not supposed to recharge it". Funny stuff. That's like telling you to throw out a set of Ni-Cad batteries when they run down.

Would Definitely Save Me Some Dough If It Works!

CigarNut · 01-05-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by longknocker

I Understand That & Use Scott's Beads In My Coolidors; They Work Great!

I Talked To Scott About A "Leaky" Desktop Humidor I Had & He Graciously Repaired It. Even Scott Said That His Beads Cannot Maintain The 65% That Boveda Does in An Unstable Environment. I Have Used 65%RH Boveda Packs For 3 Years Now On All My Desktop Humis. The Ones That Have Large Leaks Use Up The Boveda Packs More Quickly. The RH Never Varies More Than 1-2 Points. Boveda Packs Contained Purified Water, NOT PG, BTW.

I guess I don't think that the Boveda can maintain the RH for very in an unstable environment either... You either need to replace the Boveda packs (or recharge them if you can -- not sure if this is possible). If you are having to replace the Boveda packs, then you can certainly recharge Scott's beads easier and at no additional cost.

BTW, I am not trying to say that Boveda packs are bad; I use them my self for some things. I am just trying to point out that there are some very good alternatives.

hotreds · 01-05-2010, 04:55 PM

Next Boveda that becomes solid, I'll hafta try it!! Would indeed save beaucoup bucks and make me less hesitant to use these freely.

T.G · 01-05-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Next Boveda that becomes solid, I'll hafta try it!! Would indeed save beaucoup bucks and make me less hesitant to use these freely.

Like I said, I've brought the packs that Fuente uses back after they turned into a cracker - I think it's the same or similiar design pack as the Boveda.

One thing though, if you wait until they turn into a cracker, it takes a long time for them to come back. Grab them when they are just getting to that "thin" point, while they are still flexible, before they have gone rock solid, and lock them in a tupperware with a shotglass full of water for a while (maybe a week) and they'll absorb the moisture and puff back up.

longknocker · 01-05-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

I guess I don't think that the Boveda can maintain the RH for very in an unstable environment either... You either need to replace the Boveda packs (or recharge them if you can -- not sure if this is possible). If you are having to replace the Boveda packs, then you can certainly recharge Scott's beads easier and at no additional cost.

BTW, I am not trying to say that Boveda packs are bad; I use them my self for some things. I am just trying to point out that there are some very good alternatives.

Just Speaking From Experience, Michael.

I've Even Spoken To Scott At Length On This Subject & Boveda Packs Are The Most Reliable For Me, Albeit The Most Expensive.

I Have a Large Humidor (300 Count) With A Side Hinged Door & Multiple Trays. The Only Way I Can Maintain 65 Throughout Is With 65 Boveda Packs.

My Coolidors, On The Other Hand, Stay Rock Solid 63-64 RH With Scott's Beads & No Maintenance. (Addendum): With Scott's Beads, The RH Would Stay At 63-64 For 2 Days, Then Drop In The Low To Mid 50's In That Same Humidor.

01-05-2010, 03:36 PM	#5
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,670 Trading: (63)	Re: Water pillow or Boveda humidity pack I also had no idea that Bovedas could be recharged. I know that they aren't "supposed" to be. Has anyone taken a rock-hard Boveda and actually recharged it into a soft good as new unit? __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

01-05-2010, 04:55 PM	#9
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,670 Trading: (63)	Re: Water pillow or Boveda humidity pack Next Boveda that becomes solid, I'll hafta try it!! Would indeed save beaucoup bucks and make me less hesitant to use these freely. __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.