Puros

[csbrewfisher]

I had a good conversation with the rep for Arganese the other day. He asked me to take my pick of four blends that he had on hand. We talked a bit about each of them. I then asked if any of them were puros. I was really surprised by his answer, because I was under the impression that a puro was a cigar made of tobacco that was entirely grown in a single country. This gentleman told me that puros were cigars made completely of tobacco NATIVE to a country.

Is that your understanding? If true, then you would have to agree that very few cigars are puros, wouldn't you?

[Footbag]

I'm not so sure about the reps definition. A Puros is a cigar whose wrapper, filler and binder is all grown in one country.

Originally Posted by Footbag

I'm not so sure about the reps definition. A Puros is a cigar whose wrapper, filler and binder is all grown in one country.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puro

A cigar, especially one of which all the tobacco originates from the same country.

I would add that I've always heard it had to be rolled or manufactured in that country as well.

[csbrewfisher]

Nozero, the wiki definition you cite would lend credence to the rep's definition. If the tobacco has to "originate" in the country of manufacture, then the seed could not have come from elsewhere.

to originate (third-person singular simple present originates, present participle originating, simple past and past participle originated)

1. To give an origin or beginning to; to cause to be; to bring into existence; to produce as new.
2. To take first existence; to have origin or beginning; to begin to exist or act.

[Rockestone]

Originally Posted by csbrewfisher

Nozero, the wiki definition you cite would lend credence to the rep's definition. If the tobacco has to "originate" in the country of manufacture, then the seed could not have come from elsewhere.

to originate (third-person singular simple present originates, present participle originating, simple past and past participle originated)

1. To give an origin or beginning to; to cause to be; to bring into existence; to produce as new.
2. To take first existence; to have origin or beginning; to begin to exist or act.

Will there be a quiz?

[csbrewfisher]

Damn, I hope not! I'm just looking for the truth. Maybe I can't handle the truth!

Semper Fi

[ucla695]

Originally Posted by Footbag

I'm not so sure about the reps definition. A Puros is a cigar whose wrapper, filler and binder is all grown in one country.

That's my understanding too.

me too...

[BamBam]

Same

[shilala]

I agree with Footbag's definition.
Tobacco is only native to one country, and iirc, it's Peru. It's been carried to all other parts of the world, including Cuba.
To say that a puro had to be made from native tobacco doesn't seem to make sense in that light, or the only puros would hail from Peru, and I don't even know that they produce cigars.

Don't know if Rob was right or not I always thought it meant grown in the same not where the seed came from. Have no reference just what I thought I always knew.

[Footbag]

From Cigar Dictionary...

Puro

Spanish for pure, the term refers to a cigar whose filler, bunder and wrapper are made from tobacco grown in the same country. All Cuban cigars are puros.

[groogs]

Originally Posted by Footbag

From Cigar Dictionary...

That is what I thought was the definition of a Puro.

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by csbrewfisher

I had a good conversation with the rep for Arganese the other day. He asked me to take my pick of four blends that he had on hand. We talked a bit about each of them. I then asked if any of them were puros. I was really surprised by his answer, because I was under the impression that a puro was a cigar made of tobacco that was entirely grown in a single country. This gentleman told me that puros were cigars made completely of tobacco NATIVE to a country.

Is that your understanding? If true, then you would have to agree that very few cigars are puros, wouldn't you?

Sure sounds like a "manufacturers" marketing perspective... ie... Cuban seed kind of logic. I think "our definition" is what counts and that is all grown in the same country. Gets blurred so much in todays NC market with all the "blending" going on.

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

... I think "our definition" is what counts ...

That sums it up for me. Puro means "pure", and I take that to mean all from one place. marketers can do their thing but it still comes down to what our definition is in the end.

~Vitis