WTF is happening to our kids?????

I have read the entire tread there are some really good and valid points. However I believe the issues may have become confused. The first issue I would agree with the person that said "crazy is crazy" and evil is evil I have personally experienced this though out the world. The second issue (games,movies,media, and bad parenting) I believe has a it's impact also, although perhaps not related to the murder that started this tread. This person in my opinion is quit disturbed and will always be, call it what it is crazy/evil. I do have to say that in my view bad parenting along with outside influences has had its mark on society. Two years ago I was with a good friend his wife (He is in his mid sixties) at a REDs game in cinci we were leaving the game and had parked in a garage upon leaving the garage he and I almost came to blows with a man that was probably in his early to mid 20s. This was all over him not being able to get out before us when we clearly had the right a way. I clearly believe that this type of behavior and violate tendencies are a direct result of poor parenting along with the other influences. The Reds incident is just one of many that I have witnessed in recent years. In closing I would say when you spare the rod and take God out of society you get what you get just ask a Roman. The crazies will always be there (they keep me employed).

[Mikhail]

For the recored I don't have kids. I think that most kids need to play on the monkey bars and find out that if you mess up pain can and will occur.

Originally Posted by RPmark

I teach in a middle/high school and believe me I have met some administrators, teachers, and parents that I am amazed at how stupid they are. But the one thing that I will say. 90% of the time the apple does not fall far from the tree!!! The other 10% is determined by a higher( god, drugs, abuse outside family, or peer pressure).
And about the US being so low in education, you can make numbers say anything you want. I would put the best 10% in the US against the best 10% from the rest of the world!

The only reason the statement in bold would be valid is because the rest of the world's best and brightest come to America for the opportunities that aren't afforded them elsewhere. If you took the top 10% American educated and put them up against the top 10% of Korean or Indian educated we would be at a severe disadvantage. This is a quantifiable fact.

Originally Posted by pmwz

i blame cell phones + internet more than video games. there is a reason why a lot of schools in germany outlaw them. videos of executions, brutal beatings, hard ****...are shared on the school yard.
information on all kind of drugs are on the internet and a lot of the stuff is easy to produce/to get.
i dont know if the previous generations would look better if they had the same resources.
please dont make statements like the usa is the smartest/dumbest nation. it has nothing to do with the discussion, you cant proof it and those bolt statements are mos likely not true.

This is very much an important part of this particular argument. An educated society tends to be more civilized and moral.

Originally Posted by TFULLERY

I have read the entire tread there are some really good and valid points. However I believe the issues may have become confused. The first issue I would agree with the person that said "crazy is crazy" and evil is evil I have personally experienced this though out the world. The second issue (games,movies,media, and bad parenting) I believe has a it's impact also, although perhaps not related to the murder that started this tread. This person in my opinion is quit disturbed and will always be, call it what it is crazy/evil. I do have to say that in my view bad parenting along with outside influences has had its mark on society. Two years ago I was with a good friend his wife (He is in his mid sixties) at a REDs game in cinci we were leaving the game and had parked in a garage upon leaving the garage he and I almost came to blows with a man that was probably in his early to mid 20s. This was all over him not being able to get out before us when we clearly had the right a way. I clearly believe that this type of behavior and violate tendencies are a direct result of poor parenting along with the other influences. The Reds incident is just one of many that I have witnessed in recent years. In closing I would say when you spare the rod and take God out of society you get what you get just ask a Roman. The crazies will always be there (they keep me employed).

No offense but that could have and has happened in the past. This has nothing to do with poor parenting and probably had to do with an excess of alcohol and testosterone from the game.

Parents haven't gotten dumber, if anything they have become more educated and therefor become better parents. For example how many of you drove in the car when you were kids without seat belts? Child abuse, molestation, and alcohol abuse were much more prevalent in the past then they are now. There are more parenting classes and books on parenting then ever before. Parents are educating themselves and finding better ways of raising children everyday. Are there bad apples? Sure, but there have always been bad apples and everything points to there being less now then there were in the past.

As has been pointed out more than once in this thread, the only reason things "seem" worse then they have ever been is because of the amount of information we have at our finger tips. You hear about every bad thing that happens around the world now, that wasn't the case 100, 50 or even 30 years ago.