Addiction or hobby?

icehog3 · 11-16-2009, 01:14 PM

I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine.

Skywalker · 11-16-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine.

11-16-2009, 01:17 PM

I am addicted to nothing.

Cigars are my passion and hobby.

icehog3 · 11-16-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFox

I am addicted to nothing.

Cigars are my passion and hobby.

Phaneuf!!!

God Bless You....

bobarian · 11-16-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Phaneuf!!!

God Bless You....

Now that's funny!

Cigars are probably the least efficient means of delivering nicotine to the bloodstream. Given that you do not inhale, the only absorption occurs through the mouth and nose. You would have to smoke an awful lot of cigars(a la George Burns) to become physically addicted. Mental addiction probably occurs more easily but is much harder to quantify.
But I am more addicted to the friendships I have formed since joining CS/CA than I ever will be to a bunch of rolled up leaves.

Skywalker · 11-16-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Now that's funny!

Cigars are probably the least efficient means of delivering nicotine to the bloodstream. Given that you do not inhale, the only absorption occurs through the mouth and nose. You would have to smoke an awful lot of cigars(a la George Burns) to become physically addicted. Mental addiction probably occurs more easily but is much harder to quantify.
But I am more addicted to the friendships I have formed since joining CS/CA than I ever will be to a bunch of rolled up leaves.

We are addicted to you too, Buddy!!!

kelmac07 · 11-16-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine.

Gotta agree with Tim and Darrell on this one.

SmokeyJoe · 11-16-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine.

My thoughts exactly... well stated by everyone's favorite Admiral.

landhoney · 11-16-2009, 01:45 PM

I was concerned about this after I had been in the hobby for a while and began to smoke a few a week, then one week I was busy and didn't smoke for 10 days or so, and it was no big deal. Since then "dry spells" happen for one reason or another and it's still not a big deal, glad to not be additcted.

11-16-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine.

Gotta agree with Tom, Tim, Darrell, Mac and Joe on this one.

11-16-2009, 02:15 PM

Addiction itself typically refers to two elements:

1) physiological changes that produce both a tolerance of the substance and rebound physiologically stressful response to the removal of the substance (withdrawl). Not all of this has to be present (no withdrawl phenomenon is easily identifiable with halucinogens for instance).

2) maladaptive behaviours that are adopted to obtain, secure or use substance. So, by maladaptive, this means that the behaviours are continued despite the real/understood and accepted understanding that what you are doing is ultimately harming you.

So, you may very well be dependant on the nicotine. I will give you that one, but many could argue either way on this. To me its rather inconsequential.

Now, if you are spending more than you should on cigars, if you are missing work or risking trouble at work to smoke a cigar. If.....blah blah blah. Then there may be a problem. If you accept that cigars are GOING to 100% give you cancer (if it could ever be stated with such certainty) and you can't quit, then there may be a problem. Otherwise, probably not, at least psycho-physiologically.

NCRadioMan · 11-16-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine.

Agreed. I would also add one more thing to what Tom wrote, I AM addicted to the pursuit of buying more and more, not smoking more and more. I work at a non-smoking b&m

and I am here up to 12 hours a day and even though I would love to have a cigar or two or three, I don't crave them and it doesn't bother me at all, like a cigarette smoker would be. We are next to a beauty shop and the girls that fix hair go out 8 or 9 times a day to have a cigarette.

Please tell her to not to lump cigarette smokers and cigar smokers together. They are totally different animals. Cigars are a choice. Cigarettes seem to be a necessity, to my anyway.

Lucky_Hippo · 11-16-2009, 02:26 PM

Listen to your Mother.

She sounds like she's just looking out for you and your health. As cigar smokers we can easily see the benifits to the spirit and sanity that a simple cigar can offer but she will always see you as her baby. It's enough to concern her about you and your health. If all it takes is backing down a few sticks to take some worry from Mom's shoulders, it's well worth it.

There will be plenty of chances to catch up on missed sticks down the road.

P.s.
I'm not addicted either.

Don Fernando · 11-16-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine.

wise words Tom! I totally agree. With the upcoming surgery I know I won't be able to smoke for several months, probably 9 to 12 months, a sacrifice I gladly make, but I know I will keep coming here during that time, because the community is my family now.

Bubba - NJ · 11-17-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine.

Pretty much sums it all up for me too .

yourchoice · 11-17-2009, 07:04 PM

I call it my cigar hobsession.

11-16-2009, 01:14 PM	#1
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,782 Trading: (60)	Re: Addiction or hobby? I AM addicted...to the hobby and the community, not to the nicotine. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

11-16-2009, 01:17 PM	#3
SilverFox Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Addiction or hobby? I am addicted to nothing. Cigars are my passion and hobby.

11-16-2009, 01:45 PM	#9
landhoney Mr. Charisma Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Seth Location: In the forest Posts: 2,639 Trading: (32)	Re: Addiction or hobby? I was concerned about this after I had been in the hobby for a while and began to smoke a few a week, then one week I was busy and didn't smoke for 10 days or so, and it was no big deal. Since then "dry spells" happen for one reason or another and it's still not a big deal, glad to not be additcted.

11-16-2009, 02:15 PM	#11
Cyanide Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Addiction or hobby? Addiction itself typically refers to two elements: 1) physiological changes that produce both a tolerance of the substance and rebound physiologically stressful response to the removal of the substance (withdrawl). Not all of this has to be present (no withdrawl phenomenon is easily identifiable with halucinogens for instance). 2) maladaptive behaviours that are adopted to obtain, secure or use substance. So, by maladaptive, this means that the behaviours are continued despite the real/understood and accepted understanding that what you are doing is ultimately harming you. So, you may very well be dependant on the nicotine. I will give you that one, but many could argue either way on this. To me its rather inconsequential. Now, if you are spending more than you should on cigars, if you are missing work or risking trouble at work to smoke a cigar. If.....blah blah blah. Then there may be a problem. If you accept that cigars are GOING to 100% give you cancer (if it could ever be stated with such certainty) and you can't quit, then there may be a problem. Otherwise, probably not, at least psycho-physiologically.

11-16-2009, 02:26 PM	#13
Lucky_Hippo A Cigar = 42 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gary Location: Kansas Posts: 494 Trading: (2)	Re: Addiction or hobby? Listen to your Mother. She sounds like she's just looking out for you and your health. As cigar smokers we can easily see the benifits to the spirit and sanity that a simple cigar can offer but she will always see you as her baby. It's enough to concern her about you and your health. If all it takes is backing down a few sticks to take some worry from Mom's shoulders, it's well worth it. There will be plenty of chances to catch up on missed sticks down the road. P.s. I'm not addicted either. __________________ Who wants an orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Three orange whips. -J.Candy

11-17-2009, 07:04 PM	#16
yourchoice Down the stretch Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joel Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,102 Trading: (36)	Re: Addiction or hobby? I call it my cigar hobsession.