NHL '09 - '10 Thread

Ahbroody · 11-05-2009, 10:35 PM

Sorry Tom I am going to disagree and I will explain why.

When you slow it down he did appear to get his elbow on his head. That said hits that look similar to this occur almot every night in the NHL and no one gets hurt. The reason being the guy hitting doesnt bring the elbow and the guy taking knows how to absorb the hit.

A little bit of research and thinking shows why the league did this. I think part of the suspension may be the guy has a history of questionable hits. He is basically a fighter enforcer and the jrs remember are trying to limit this after the past few years and kids hitting heads on ice etc.
This hit was not the only one, just one I thought demonstrated what he does. He had nothing but bad intentions here and charged the guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Qo2...eature=related

Hes an overager. From what I understand he was 20 at the start of the season but may be 21 now. Basically to me it appears the league has decided the guy isnt going to add anything to the league isnt going to make the show and will likely spend the year blowing up 16 and 17 year olds trying to impress a club wanting a potential tough guy. He almost killed this kid and given his style of hitting he may have ended up killing a 16 year old by the end of the year. The league is basically saying okay badass time to go play in the AHL or ECHL and go pull this.

Arent the majors looking into not allowing the 16 and some 17s not playing majors because of this type of stuff?

Its not accurate or fair to ask to look at this one hit and base your decission saying its wrong or harsh on the one hit. Just as in the NHL. Repeat offenders are treated much more harshly when they have a history as opposed to the clean player who screws up once. Say I dont know someone like Chris Simon? This guy has an extensive history of bad hits and fighting. These are two things the majors want gone last I heard as they are trying to protect kids. This guy is a men amoung boys and he almost killed one. That is why he is gone.

WyGuy · 11-06-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahbroody

Sorry Tom I am going to disagree and I will explain why.

When you slow it down he did appear to get his elbow on his head. That said hits that look similar to this occur almot every night in the NHL and no one gets hurt. The reason being the guy hitting doesnt bring the elbow and the guy taking knows how to absorb the hit.

A little bit of research and thinking shows why the league did this. I think part of the suspension may be the guy has a history of questionable hits. He is basically a fighter enforcer and the jrs remember are trying to limit this after the past few years and kids hitting heads on ice etc.
This hit was not the only one, just one I thought demonstrated what he does. He had nothing but bad intentions here and charged the guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Qo2...eature=related

Hes an overager. From what I understand he was 20 at the start of the season but may be 21 now. Basically to me it appears the league has decided the guy isnt going to add anything to the league isnt going to make the show and will likely spend the year blowing up 16 and 17 year olds trying to impress a club wanting a potential tough guy. He almost killed this kid and given his style of hitting he may have ended up killing a 16 year old by the end of the year. The league is basically saying okay badass time to go play in the AHL or ECHL and go pull this.

Arent the majors looking into not allowing the 16 and some 17s not playing majors because of this type of stuff?

Its not accurate or fair to ask to look at this one hit and base your decission saying its wrong or harsh on the one hit. Just as in the NHL. Repeat offenders are treated much more harshly when they have a history as opposed to the clean player who screws up once. Say I dont know someone like Chris Simon? This guy has an extensive history of bad hits and fighting. These are two things the majors want gone last I heard as they are trying to protect kids. This guy is a men amoung boys and he almost killed one. That is why he is gone.

Going to have to disagree with the elbow to the head. To me it appears to be a shoulder to shoulder, clean hit. I re-watched the video multiple times now trying to see it, but it still looks clean to me.

Here's the OHL's official statement, their calling it a boarding penalty.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,200172

I do think your right though, seems they have had enough of this guy and want him gone. Wish Fanelli the best of luck and speedy recovery.

Ahbroody · 11-06-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WyGuy

Going to have to disagree with the elbow to the head. To me it appears to be a shoulder to shoulder, clean hit. I re-watched the video multiple times now trying to see it, but it still looks clean to me.

Here's the OHL's official statement, their calling it a boarding penalty.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,200172

I do think your right though, seems they have had enough of this guy and want him gone. Wish Fanelli the best of luck and speedy recovery.

Watched the video in the link you gave. 39 second freeze you see this.

That is not shoulder to shoulder brother. His elbow is right on his head. Now clearly at the speed its hard to pick up, but it is there to me. Hope this helps you see it. He clearly finishes with the elbow. He came in and drove the elbow, he didnt lead with the elbow, but at that speed finishing with it is I guess harder to pick up

11-05-2009, 10:35 PM	#1
Ahbroody Daddy x 4 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: San Jose Posts: 3,708 Trading: (53)	Re: NHL '09 - '10 Thread Sorry Tom I am going to disagree and I will explain why. When you slow it down he did appear to get his elbow on his head. That said hits that look similar to this occur almot every night in the NHL and no one gets hurt. The reason being the guy hitting doesnt bring the elbow and the guy taking knows how to absorb the hit. A little bit of research and thinking shows why the league did this. I think part of the suspension may be the guy has a history of questionable hits. He is basically a fighter enforcer and the jrs remember are trying to limit this after the past few years and kids hitting heads on ice etc. This hit was not the only one, just one I thought demonstrated what he does. He had nothing but bad intentions here and charged the guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Qo2...eature=related Hes an overager. From what I understand he was 20 at the start of the season but may be 21 now. Basically to me it appears the league has decided the guy isnt going to add anything to the league isnt going to make the show and will likely spend the year blowing up 16 and 17 year olds trying to impress a club wanting a potential tough guy. He almost killed this kid and given his style of hitting he may have ended up killing a 16 year old by the end of the year. The league is basically saying okay badass time to go play in the AHL or ECHL and go pull this. Arent the majors looking into not allowing the 16 and some 17s not playing majors because of this type of stuff? Its not accurate or fair to ask to look at this one hit and base your decission saying its wrong or harsh on the one hit. Just as in the NHL. Repeat offenders are treated much more harshly when they have a history as opposed to the clean player who screws up once. Say I dont know someone like Chris Simon? This guy has an extensive history of bad hits and fighting. These are two things the majors want gone last I heard as they are trying to protect kids. This guy is a men amoung boys and he almost killed one. That is why he is gone.